I watched the AA game long enough to see Wilson haul in one of those TDs and I was very impressed.
He's got all the measurables, just need to get him in there and get him studying the playbook.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I love and will always love Urban, but I hope that the whole "you have to play special teams and be a top level blocker before seeing the field" mentality eases up a bit. This guy's job needs to be to toast his DB, catch the ball, and take it to the damn house! I am not in any way ignoring the importance of blocking, but shouldn't the #1 prerequisit of a buckeye receiver be get open and catch the football?
Feel the same way. Play the best game time players which are not always the best practice players or the most vocal in the locker room though that may be a tendency.
I wholeheartedly disagree, blocking and making plays on special teams come from purely effort. Blocking as a receiver is half the battle without blocking WR's there will NEVER be big running plays to the outside on jet sweeps, tosses, stretch plays, etc. If you can't block its because you have not put in the work, EVERYONE should be a good blocker and it is not his only job to catch balls. I would even argue blocking is almost as important as catching balls and its a big let down to the running game to have non blocking WR's. Urban was 100% correct and every coach you ever talk to will tell you the same thing.
He said he is not downplaying the importance of blocking.
I thought putting that in there would have prevented someone from seeing it as "blocking doesn't matter" but I was wrong.
He stated he is not downplaying the importance of blocking,,,but,, he is downplaying the importance of blocking.
the commenter ‘wished’ the coaches “would let up a little”
remember, blocking is just your ‘get-off’ move with the intention to hurt your opponent
(blocking = hitting = manhood exercise)
“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”
I hope that the whole "you have to play special teams and be a top level blocker before seeing the field" mentality eases up a bit.
The great thing about Wilson is that he seems like he wouldn't even mind doing that kind of stuff.
proud of his ‘man card’
my first thought is wilson and olave and mccall on the field at the same time with justin fields at qb - SCARY!
And now KJ Hill who announced his return, and hopefully kamrynn Babb will be able to go. Hell, even Austin Mack is good enough to be a #1-2 receiver in a lot of programs.
"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"
It's probably too early to fully project the depth chart
Probably he says...
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best
Too early OR not too early.
Lol I should have said ACCURATELY project the depth chart. Two hours ago I wouldn’t have had K.J. Hill on mine.
If this year with Haskins and last night's CFP Championship Game taught us anything, it's to get the talent on the field no matter how old they are. Let your players make great plays. Hopefully the coaching staff was watching closely and we don't revert to the previous traditions that rewarded seniority.
This!! The best players should play, period. However, as we’ve seen, coaches aren’t always the best at identifying the best talent (I.e. one year with Haskins).
Please define “best”. Best hands? Best routes? Best blocker? Best practice player? Best effort?
my belief is that Urban always played the best player at each position. It’s just his definition of best differs slightly from some of 11w posters.
He played the best from the nicest family. So warm and fuzzy.
well, who really wants to love and hug cold, grumpy people anyhow?
"Best" encompasses ALL of those traits and probably more. Only the coaching staff truly knows who is BEST. It doesn't matter how "electric" a skill position player may be, if route running and good hands are the only things he works on, he won't see the field.
I posted this earlier on another thread! Yes! We need to let young guys go out there and make plays. I will take a few hiccups in exchange for the homeruns that some of this talent will provide. I don't want to be sitting here in October seeing "yeah he should be playing more" and "we have to find ways to get him involved" again like we did with Ruckert all year. For a guy that Meyer called "the best tight end I have ever recruited", not getting on the field because of Ferrell and Berry is a major head scratcher because those two aren't what I would call "weapons". And if Ruckert wasn't ready to block on the line, then at least put his big frame in the slot and let him be a matchup nightmare!
Get him on the field. Lat night showed that young cats these days are ready to roll
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Lately I’ve been feeling like I did when Mike Connelly and Greg Oden rented osu jerseys for a year. Talent is great to get but seeing so little of Haskins is a crying shame.
So yes, let Wilson work out the kinks in early games and let’s get the most out of him.
Is it true he prefers short QB's?
7-0 and a chance to go 8-0...
Also kudos to 11w for keeping up with this while the hurricane of Buckeye news rages.
Well done gentlemen.
I... can't... keep... up....
Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.
Victor and Mack have been very inconsistent. You can bet Brian will be playing his best 6 or so players. If Wilson is that good, he will play. Spring will tell us a lot. Lets hope none of them become injured.
With a real college D next year, OSU will not be so hard to enjoy. Great to be a Buckeye.
Other than that weird series of drops in the TCU game, I don't think of Mack as being inconsistent. Maybe I have selective memory.
Well I believe Mack is going to be very good but with Olave & the other young receivers he will need to be as there are guys capable to take his place any time.
I agree. Mack had one weird game with the dropsies and now half the buckeye fanbase calls him inconsistent. He was probably the most sure handed receiver we had before he went down with injury. KJ Hill was a close second, but Mack was an automatic chain mover on 3rd downs. We have an embarrassment of riches in the receiving corps. And don't forget about Babb. I've heard his recovery is going well.
I like Mack a lot but you have to admit, that was a very bad game and made it a lot closer than it needed to be. He hadn’t been around long enough to say he had been the most consistent receiver. He only had 24 catches and two TDs entering the season and then was injured for most of it. Mack will definitely need to prove himself against all the hungry young receivers coming up.
I hope the Day era is more friendly to freshmen than the Urban era was. Look around, the best teams play their freshmen. Look at Clemson's WR last night (and of course their WR).
Jameson Williams is a guy I think could see some action too, even if only on obvious passing downs. He's so fluid and SO fast, it may be hard not to have him out there. He certainly will need to add weight for blocking purposes, but having a legit 4.3 guy on the outside on 3rd and 8+ is a good way to ensure you get a deep safety shaded to one side.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
I hope he gets to return punts and kicks this fall
Hopefully Day has a tendency to trust the younger guys and play them, something I don't think Urban did much. My guess is zone 6 next year is going to be Mack, Victor, Hill, Olave, Wilson, and Jaelen Gill.
I suspect Hartline will have a great deal to say regarding Zone 6 and while Meyer was cautious - Hartline got Olave out there and will whoever else can make a difference in the formation.
I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk
He may and if he does it would mean he is very special. OSU has a number of very talented wrs with more experience in the system. Without Wilson they aleeady have one of the most talented set of wrs in the nation.
Wilson has unbelievable talent and I hope he contributes right away, but, I also believe in Larry Johnson's philosophy of not putting younger players in a position where they might fail and then see them beat themselves up over a mistake.
I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.
Don’t forget about L’Christian “Blue” Smith. At 6’6 205, I bet he has put more weight on, he could be that hybrid tight end receiver type.
They could roll out 6-3 and up next year at every wr. Position.
Age is just a number. Best players PLAY!! #BeGreat #BeDifferent
— Brian Hartline (@brianhartline) January 8, 2019
Because I couldn't go for 3.
Right on 57!!
It was true in the case of Brendon White @ safety and Chris Olave @ WR.
I'm not at the WHAC during practice and would be crazy think I know more than the coaching staff but it does make me wonder how this much talent is overlooked until so late in the season.
It took a targeting penalty to get White on the field and an injury to Mack for Olave to see playing time but they both made the most of the opportunity.
Looking forward to 2019, it's the dawning of a new Day and I like what I've seen so far!!
"Defiance in Silence"
I honestly never really used to give much thought to OSU’s reciver corps despite the fact we’ve had the Chris Carters, Joey Galloways, Michael Jenkins, David Bostons, and Michael Thomas’s of the world (to name a few). The latter seemed almost like an afterthought in the mix with Evan Spencer and Devin Smith yet here he is putting together a first ballot HOF career thus far. I don't know if it’s the whole “three yards and a cloud of dust” mentality we’re ingrained with from a young age as Buckeyes, but I hope we get to see Wilson and these other talented WR’s blossom into serious reception yardage leaders. WR’s aren’t just blockers. Clemson showed us the way last night (vomit in mouth). A tenacious defense, a solid running game, and a pass first QB that could make all the throws, but ALSO could very effectively tuck the ball and run. Lawrence threw for 347 and ran for 27. Perfect. There’s no doubt in my mind that we could have been competitive against them last night, but not with the read option. Whatever’s next, let it look more like this year with a bit more mobility.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
Kid has some Cris Carter mitts on him.
If anyone watched Justyn Ross last night, you should be wanting Wilson to play - immediately.
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Dude had a great game - Garrett is gonna be explosive to the point to the likes of something we haven't seen for awhile.
Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
In a word - INSANE!
Pick your poison with Hill (if he returns) Mack Babb and Wilson. Mix in a few others already clammering for playing time and it'll just be nasty.
Definitely hear what your saying here Seattle but with exodus at WR this year, KJ could be that veteran leadership that could make the difference for the younger WRs.
I'd love to see them mix it up a little so the youngers get some quality reps, especially during that three game stretch to open the season but there's also no substitute for experience and whether KJ stays or goes (personally hoping he's back for one more go around) there is a plethora of talent in Zone 6 and Hartline seems to be pretty damn good at getting the most out of it!
I believe that Hartline is going to give us several years of pride and joy about the position he played!
The wr room is loaded! Let’s get that uptempo offense moving!
"Age wrinkles the body, quitting wrinkles the soul" Woody Hayes
Olave one side and Wilson on the other
Wouldn't sleep on Babb, either. Would've made just as much of an impact that Olave did this year.
Let's get a fresh start. And we are doing just that so far, with the changes on D coaching staff. Now we need to see "the REAL Ryan Day", not the one who was subbing for Urban at the beginning of the year. Let's see what young minds who have plenty of NFL experience can bring to OSU on both sides of the ball. Start fresh with the depth chart on both sides of the ball. Change up the 'safe' philosophies that protect coaching legacies and adopt 'aggressive' philosophies that maximize talent and let the players know that the best players start, so be the best. It was clear that while we got the very best Urban had to offer, it wasn't always the best the players had to offer. Let's see Day free this team up to maximize their talents and build the next Dynasty in college football.
Just don’t let him try to punt.
Wilson, Mack, Olave, KJ with Dobbins and DM3.. not to mention Fields (spitballing) being able to spread the ball around and tuck it if needed.... This offense could be scary.
Not to mention Babb, Harris, J. Williams, Gill and hopefully can work Ruckart into the TE rotation.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
I know this was an article about Garrett Wilson, but there was a mention about Harrison's possibilty of seeing playing time next year, also. It said Young, Cooper, Smith, and Friday will be in front of him, but there was no mention of Cornell. I've seen those same 4 mentioned at several other places, also. For some reaon everybody seems to forget about Cornell. I know he hasn't been real flashy but was the number 3 DE this year after Bosa went down. I think he even had a sack in the Rose Bowl game. I would expect he still will be seeing plenty of reps next year. People shouldn't just forget about him.
The great thing about being a Buckeye receiver these days is that there's an offensive scheme and culture that spreads the ball around, so not only does everybody get an opportunity to see some game-time action, but even in practice, you have three of the top QBs in college football throwing to you (under the guidance of the two best QB coaches in college football).
I know we've got a lot of guys with unique skills sets in different sizes and shapes, which allows for mismatches against almost any team, but what I'm most interested in seeing is which WR wins the Paris Campbell / Curtis Samuel / Dontre Wilson / Jalen Marshal speed role--i..e, the guy who can take hand-offs, reverses and quick screens to the house and/or blow the lid off defenses downfield like Devin Smith?
A lot of people thought that by now the speedster/WR/H-back role would have been Demario McCall's, but that just hasn't happened... at least not yet. I still can't figure out why he's gotten so little playing time. Meyer always claimed it was his weight/size, but that didn't stop him from getting some meaningful playing time. I dunno--maybe McCall will see more action under Day.
Actually, in terms of 40 yards dashes, does anybody here know the latest number per THE fastest guys in Zone Six? It might even be Jameson Williams, the incoming freshman, although it'll be tough for him to get lots of reps in the crowded receiver room.