Ohio State's Offensive Line Could Be the Biggest Question Mark Entering the 2019 Season

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buckeyestu's picture

I am really hoping Nester is a Buckeye.

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CorchUrb's picture

Yes, we need him bad. I think the OL will be solid, as long as there aren’t any injuries. If Harry Miller is ready to be the backup center, which I think he will be, they need to move Jones over to guard to provide some depth. And hopefully a few of these true freshman are ready to at least be able to play if called upon. A lot of people forget Bowen won the starting Guard spot last year. And was playing well before he got hurt. If he can get back to where he was before, he’ll do great.

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Homey1970's picture

Encouraging to see Nester with the other commits/signees, giving the ‘O’ 

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Homey1970's picture

p.s.: It was also very nice to see Paris Johnson standing next to Bresee when he was interviewed at the game.  Have a good vibe about Day and the 2020 class.

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IsJoeFlaccoElite's picture

I heard he is leaning towards Georgia at this point.

Hope I’m wrong.

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Yoda888's picture

The article is a bit too pessimistic in tone and substance.  Most of the guys who are expected to be starters have been with the program for 3 years, and the back-ups have been with the program for 2 by the time training camp starts.  While they may not have started, if you're a 4-5 star recruit, you should have had enough conditioning, preparation, and talent to be ready at this point.  

Similarly, no one seems to be panicking at the QB position given that none of the ones on the roster next season has started any games at all!  and this is the most important position.

KEEP CALM and GO BUCKS.

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CptBuckeye24's picture

It also hurts when you have guys who are in their 4th or 5th year that are not ready to be starters. That's a big problem.

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Knite's picture

Seems to me that that is a coaching concern. Been on the team 2,3 or 4 years and still have concerns over OL. That tells me that Studs isn't doing HIS job. And if he isn't doing his job, then he needs replaced. Makes too much money for this to even be a thought.

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

We’ve had better depth under stud than we ever did with warriner. Seems like warriner could trot out 5 really good starters but you never wanted to see their backups.

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Drpsychbuck's picture

I heard Studwara isn’t an elite recruiter either. Time to find an elite position coach. Warriner has the OL playing elite. There’s been a drop off since he was “promoted” to MN and then MI.

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Silver Sniper's picture

At this point, I am still more concerned about the LBs than the Oline, but maybe that’s just me. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

The needs are great but the list of candidates isn’t very long.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BucksHave7's picture

Our recruiting classes have been awesome over the last 4 years.  We will again have a top 10 ranked offense. 

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BuckeyePhi1517's picture

The timeline from freshman black stipe to starting lineup needs to be shortened on the OL.  Can't always be waiting 3 years on that development and getting theses guys for 1-2 seasons of action.

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Jdadams01's picture

It does seem as if Ohio State has taken longer to develop OL than other schools, Jordan and Mubford being the exceptions. And they both impressed from the moment they stepped on campus so I don't necessarily chalk that up to development. And even then, Meyer said that Jordan starting was not ideal and was due to the lack of capable guys on the OL. The lack of depth, both in development and recruiting, has to be blamed on Stud. I just don't see any reason to keep him.

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stpetebuck's picture

Agreed. Slow development and recently a step backwards in rush blocking with two amazing backs. Though RPO’s put more passing options in place of runs. 

I am optimistic that osu has a top ten offense again in ‘19. 

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

It is not like we aren’t getting talented linemen. How much of a project should the #7 overall player in the country be? 

Development of linemen hs been missed since Warriner left.

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WorthyBuck's picture

Davis and Myers were also both very highly rated.  Ratings are not perfect for any particular player, but we are bringing in a lot of talent, which has not really translated to as much depth or productions a it should have based on the players we have landed.  Stud does not seem to be a very good coach. 

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Silver Sniper's picture

Great take, Worthy. We seem to have recruited a who’s who of Olinemen but it doesn’t seem to be translating.

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I think the other problem is sheer numbers. I'm really not sure why it's not routine to sign at least four offensive linemen in every class. Obviously, you're going to have some transfers that way, but unless a team gets hit with an unusual combination of transfers, injuries, and early NFL entrants, at least that way you're never caught short on players.

I don't want to hear the "Ohio has had some weak OL classes" excuse either. Wisconsin is a lot smaller than Ohio, and the Badgers' awesome lines are built almost exclusively from in-state kids.

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Yoda888's picture

It may not necessarily slow development or capability, and might just be the nature of the position.  harder to switch OL personnel once the season starts and the QB and starters are used to each other.  Doesn't necessarily mean that the back-ups aren't capable of being starters.  Just look at Michael Jordan. He was asked to change position and became an all-American!

The skill positions are easier to have more personnel be involved.  These are more dependent on individual talent than OL, who needs to have more team cohesion and familiarity with the QB and vice versa.  

Yoda888

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wyatt's picture

It seems every game several OL players got called for moving before the snap, holding or just missed their blocks. I'm for signing a new OL coach. Development is lacking. 

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Silver Sniper's picture

Oh gosh that has been beyond frustrating to see all those jumps. It was out of control.

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Trebor40's picture

That was on Michael Jordan, his snap speed was awful! It is like a hitch in a jump shot allowing a defender to close! Yet in this case even worse because it caused his fellow linemen to hesitate - this put them on even footing with the D-Line which made things worse. Having a center who is just consistent with their snap and quick will be a huge boon! 

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cuttyrock's picture

O lineman is the hardest position to project. Several reasons such as body development, growth, and the technical aspect of the position. Very few true freshman start. It takes one or two seasons to usually get them accustom to speed, technique, physicality, confidence and body growth. O line is the hardest position to play in football. Blitz pickups, stunts, assignments, knowing where your teammates are going to be.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I like the projected starting lineup.  I had NPF as my starting RT but if he still need to put on some more weight I think Alibi can do a fine job.   It will be interesting to see if they put NPF at the left or right tackle position with Paris Johnson coming in next year.  

If Nester joins the Buckeyes I would expect to see him in the two-deep over Cupp.   

Fianlly, I’m a little surprised you have Jones as the backup Center and Miller as backup Guard.  I would flip those two.  I think I Miller will be an All-American at the Center spot. 

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Jones was the #1 Center in the nation the year before & I think it’s because he has a year practicing at Center in the program that gives him a leg up to be backup. I agree Miller will be an AA, but I don’t think you want a true freshman as the backup center. 

You win with people. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

Fair point Shawnee.  

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DP71's picture

We have had true freshmen starting Centers in the past. 

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Beaver's picture

I think Tommy Togai exposed Jones early on as not even close to a best center when he drove him about 30 yds back during one on ones. I would guess Miller will show up much better as a top lineman. I do not think we missed on both.

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Hovenaut's picture

I like the new faces/lineup to be as well - still a solid mix of experience and talent, with players looking to be in at natural positions. 

Work to be done, but there's potential.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

NPF is going to be tough to keep out of the starting line up, in my estimation.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

No offense to Alabi who played good in the Rose Bowl, but I think NPF is special and will start at right tackle in 2019 before moving to left in 2020.

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SLVRBLLTS's picture

The biggest question mark is not the talent or inexperience of the players in the two deep. It’s the guy developing them. Time for Stud to step up.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I’ve been disappointed with our development and strategy. Seems like in each of the last few years we’ve had to do serious patchwork that involved taking someone from their natural position and moving them into a new spot on the line. This shouldn’t be a consistent thing. 

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

This has been my projected two deep. I think the line will be better next year than it was this year, esp. at run blocking toughness.

Tressel used to get his 2nd team line more work than we seem to do now. I wish we’d get them in on occasion throughout the season for the sake of experience. 

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Seems like every 2-3 years we have a total line overhaul and graduate/lose the majority of the line, which makes it difficult to spot replace for experience. 3-4 returning guys makes it easier to rotate for experience. 

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Sanitarian2's picture

I agree, there's no reason to have the five starters play virtually every down all season long when you have plenty of chances in blowouts to get reps for the second team. No need to rotate the entire line, add one or two to the starters when up thirty in the fourth quarter to get them playing time. You should ALWAYS be looking to the future when today has been determined. Now if their development is so stunted that they can't even protect themselves or function, that's on the coaching staff.

Sani

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gobucks1966's picture

Couple things we fail to realize knocking the guys with 3 and 4 years with never cracking the line up. The guys leaving have been here along time too? Urban has said many times he only goes two deep in mop up duty so PT is scarce. I like Myers he has a lot of minutes and was close to start this year. This year reminds me of when Bollman was here we never had more than 8 or 10 ship lineman here. He brought the NFL mentality here with everyone being able to play all three positions so you didn't need many line man. I thought that was so stupid because a couple injuries your screwed and taking reps at other positions takes reps from your main position.

Denny

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CptBuckeye24's picture

We didn't always have that luxury of the getting second team in there. And early season reps are way different than mid to late season reps too. Second team guys got in there against Oregon State, Rutgers, and Tulane but didn't factor in games like Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, or Maryland where they should have played in at least a few of those games. They legitimately couldn't get them mop up duty since the games were so close.

With that said, the first team guys had to play more and take some additional wear and tear while the second team didn't earn reps for development.

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

All true. I could be mos-remembering it now, but I feel like Tress used to get 2nd team guys work even later in the season during important games. Sometimes guys rotated in and other times it was the whole second team line. It’s been awhile though, so it could just be that I’m projecting that for some reason.

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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Wildragei's picture

The most important thing you identified is the additional wear on the 1st team.

Wildragei

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Spider1944's picture

Shawnee,

Tressel used to get his 2nd team line more work than we seem to do now. I wish we’d get them in on occasion throughout the season for the sake of experience. 

This was a B1G concern for me. The 2’s not playing after the 4th game. The best development of any player is on the field and other than DL and the receivers Corp, not much chance for development for the 2’s. Just sayin...

Go Bucks!! 

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

Offensive linemen need to be rotated in the game! Rotate them in for a series of downs or for specific plays to get them on the field. 3 times a half gets 6 plays a game. Doing this alone gets 78 snaps for the season. Any mop up duty only adds to this snap count which means this would give over 100 snaps of experience.

I scripted rotations by drives. This allowed me to purposely choose the players who were playing together to help match strengths and cover weaknesses. I knew what that group could and couldn’t do. Doing this limited the surprises and calling a play and forgetting who is in there, while getting guys experience! Confidence grew tremendously over the season.

Running 70-90 plays a game should allow for reps!

Always and forever, Go Bucks!

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Seems like it's especially important if we're gonna be a faced paced team, right?  If we're running 80plus plays per game, get the second group 20 snaps each somehow (all together or mixed in).

Every week in the NFL we see some mixing and matching. Guys get injured and the line shifts around, etc. Granted, they are professionals. But it sort of proves that its possible to have some rotation. 

Look at what Josh Alabi did against Maryland! he came in and played very well almost the entire game. Didn't look like the line lacked much. Played pretty well in the Rose Bowl, too. Glad he had that Maryland game experience to give him confidence!

We win at least half of our games by 3 TDs or more. Should be ample opportunity to develop them too. 

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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CptBuckeye24's picture

I am with you and I think it's a good plan. However, you need to have guys that are ready to go and be contributors, not become liabilities as soon as they are exposed to significant and meaningful snaps. Look at Knox a few years ago in that bowl game.

With that said, I am not 100% sure we had that depth last year for that. Taylor going down to injury derailed that plan and no Bowen hurt too. Sometimes that happens but you can't be just 8 or 9 deep on the OL. Outside of the starters, Alibi, Davis, Cupp, and Myers are the only guys who played significant snaps. They couldn't even field abother starting 5 with the lack of depth. The backup RT was Petit-Frere and he took a redshirt.

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

At least Myers, Davis Alabi, Bowen could have rotated into the lineup. NPF could have also during the 4 games he played.

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Poisonous Nuts's picture

I’m glad 59 is graduating. I’m sure he’s a good guy, but between getting beat consistently early in his career, to all the false starts and penalties throughout his years....  I’m happy to see another RT get a chance.

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I’m probably being overly harsh, but I thought the line this year was one of the worst in recent memory. They did play better as the year progressed though. It will definitely be interesting to see how next years line develops and comes together. 

Its interesting to me that Jordan is declaring with a mid round grade. I’m not sure there’s enough guarantees in that positioning for me to leave school early. I think he could have benefitted from another year and improved his draft stock. 

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Huskerbuck's picture

Occasionally they played better as the year progressed but one of their worst quarters all year was the 4th quarter in the Rose Bowl. 

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Spider1944's picture

OB, I felt the same way. My guess is $$$. He probably feels he will get his money eventually. Good Luck young Michael Jordan. I would like to see you with the Brown’s someday. 

Go Bucks!! 

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wyatt's picture

The OL must have set a record in penalties. Bad snaps, illegal procedures, holding. They looked like they had no clue what the snap count was. 

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CptBuckeye24's picture

Davis and Bowen/Cupp should be upgrades at their respective positions. Myers will be fine.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

The interior of the line will be the strength for sure next year, with 3 guys who are true guards and center in their instead of tackles moved down. I think that will help the run game tremendously.  

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buckjunky's picture

As proven over and over in football, your teams are only as good as your line on both sides of the ball.  That is where games are won.  Proven this year against Michigan and Washington.  It doesn't matter how many 5 star QB's, running backs or receivers you have if you lose the line of scrimmage battle.  Recruiting top linemen has always been Alabama's top priority and there is a reason why.  

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Not to mention the fact that Alabama's linemen are juiced up...

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DP71's picture

Agree but I would that we seem to recruit DL more easily than OL.

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BrutusB's picture

I’m not going to trash talk former Buckeyes too badly, but im not too worried about replacing Prince and Pridgeon. 

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Kujo247's picture

If we can't use this problem to reel in Nester and keep Paris Johnson, I don't know what we can do.

And, it's not like these back-ups are two-star scrubs.  They're all 4-and-5-stars so they need to show us why they were once rated that high.  If they haven't developed, then we need to fire the position coach and get a new one.

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chirobuck's picture

Not really worried, 3 guys with starting experience coming back plus day already knows Meyers is ready given his comments to jordan, depth is really the only concern

 

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brutus360's picture

Took the words right out of my mouth. I’m not at all worried. 

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Buddha's picture

Generally agree with Buckjunky - said somewhere here yesterday that who ultimately wins QB job does not matter unless we recruit Better at O line. Build the team with OL then QB then DL then great speed at wideout and TE - everything else will take care of itself.

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WorthyBuck's picture

A full recovery and return to 2017 form for Bowen will be key.  He not only took that starting spot in 2017 but performed well, better than Jordan.  If he can regain that form our interior will be very solid with him along with Myers and Davis.  

Hope NPF can put on some weight and make a push at OT.  He seems to have the talent, and some serious competition at both spots would be good, as would an good #3 OT, regardless of who it turns out to be.  

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

If NPF does gain weight and make a push we will have a good #3 tackle.

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WorthyBuck's picture

Right.  That was my point.  We need NPF to be ready to play next year.

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osubuckeyes27's picture

Has Ryan Day stated if he is going to retain Coach Stud and if he isn’t who would we want to coach and develop that position?

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rblackbu's picture

Our 1st 3 games will ease the new unit into the season (FL Atlantic, UC and Miami) and three 5-star guys will finally get their chance to play full time (Myers, Davis and Petit-Frere). LG is biggest Q, could have 3 competing at that spot (Cupp, Bowen, Jones). Depth is a concern, need at least 1 more OL guy in February :). End of day, they’ll be elite.

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rick's picture

Is there any interest in Darnell Wright? He is a highly rated 2019 OT that had a OSU offer from Huntington, West Virginia, close to where Nester is from. He has yet to sign and his crystal ball is to Tennessee?? It shows he has an OSU offer, did we cool on him for some reason ...

The other name I didn’t see in the artical above that I thought we were pursuing is 3 star Dawand Jones. The huge OT 6’8 375 from Indianapolis. Any info on where he is projected to go?

If we don’t add a 2019 lineman late, I’d love to know who is out that from a graduate transfer perspective that could provide stability to the OL room. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

I think we backed away from Wright because he told the staff that he was down to Tennessee and Alabama and effectively eliminated us from consideration.

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rick's picture

For Wright, Alabama can’t be an option any longer with how many kids they have signed which would leave only Tennessee. Idk why a recruit of his stature would go to a Tennessee program who just went 5-7 on the year. 3 of their 5 wins were against absolute cupcakes (Eastern Tennessee, Charlotte and UTEP) and outside of the Auburn win, they were largely non competitive against teams with a pulse. Pruitt didn’t show any signs of turning that program around. I’d think if OSU wanted to make a late push it woukd possibly make Wright reconsider. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Battle went to Alabama with the same amount of kids committed (and something like 5 or 6 DBs already committed). If Wright decides on Alabama...Saban will make room for him.

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Buxki84's picture

Ala-baba and the 40 thieves...er, recruits?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

It looks like access to the official NCAA transfer portal site is limited to member schools. I found a site that tracks grad transfers compiled from news articles and Twitter announcements. Unfortunately, the current list of names isn’t impressive. Most of the OLs who’ve publicly said they’re planning to go that route are backups themselves, and many play for teams that aren’t very good (Illinois, Indiana). Most seem to go down in terms of level of competition to improve their chances of starting, e.g., a backup at Illinois is more likely to play his last year at Illinois State than Ohio State. And would we want that guy, anyway? Unless better candidates emerge and want to play for Ohio State, getting a good grad transfer doesn’t seem like a very realistic option.

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JODO8411's picture

I see starting experience, maturity, great potential, while keeping the scheme the same. These projected starters will have an avg. of 3.8 years of experience at Ohio State at the start of next season. I’ll take that. 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

This is where the rumor of Studrawa being a lousy recruiter is biting us in the ass. We may be forced to have to start or play true freshmen in the very near future. If Ryan Day wants to keep his job long he will address this issue NOW.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

To be fair, Studrawa's recruiting has been better than his coaching...

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BbBnD's picture

According to 247, he’s pulled in some big names at OSU and LSU. Him being a lousy recruiter doesn’t seem accurate. 

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Huskerbuck's picture

Let's just make sure we have an 0-line coach who can recruit and coach up his players.  Hopefully Day will see what needs to be done and gets it done. 

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Buckskin007's picture

I'm not convinced Straw is the guy. I see the star power but still dont see the production. I understand that O lineman take time, but I'm still not seeing the development. Toss in a guy like Gavin who was a 3 star but had seemed to tear it up at the camps yet doesn't look like the diamond in the rough that some thought he could be. Looking at this years online and the back ups and they just didnt strike me as over welmingly dominate. Maybe I'm missing something or not seeing the talent being displayed play in play out. Or maybe it's just a gutt feeling.

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earthpig's picture

This may be an issue, we'll see a bit more come spring camp.  The potential is there to have a solid line of young guys who can provide stability over the next two years or so..  Let's see what comes out of Marrioti's dojo this spring..  

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tampatom's picture

MIght need to look an JUCO for some depth for next year..I also think Stud should be gone, but I think he might stay one more year since the D staff is getting blown up and it may help us keep Nestor.

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kmp10's picture

...Malcolm Pridgeon, right guard Demetrius Knox and right tackle Isaiah Prince.

I'm not going to insult these players by starting my post using the phrase 'with all due respect.' Addition by subtraction is the phrase I will use, however, because the o-line last season was far too soft and timid for much of the year. I could be all wet here, but of the changes in store for next year, losing this threesome is about as worrisome as losing Alex Grinch on the fret spectrum. Experience was overvalued by Meyer, imo, and there were myriad examples of more talented but less experienced players sitting the bench during his tenure. To get one year of Malik Hooker while Tyvis Powell played was a shame... and that's not a knock on Powell, who was a solid college football player, but Hooker was a unique talent who should have been playing alongside Vonn Bell in 2015. Even more egregious, which is saying something, is getting one year of Haskins (probably) while Barrett quarterbacked the 17 team. Haskins was ready, and he proved it Vs ttun, but Meyer was attached to Barrett, so he could have had Aaron Rodgers on that 17 team and Barrett would still have been the QB. At some point, talent and ability have to overcome experience, with Meyer, however, that point wasn't until experience graduated. As great as Meyer was, and he was, I'm hoping this kind go thing is now in the past. I'm also hoping some of these highly recruited offensive linemen emerge next season like Hooker and Haskins have in seasons past. 

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Yoda888's picture

All your points are valid, but one also needs to and should consider things such as seniority, loyalty, experience, etc....these things do matter and they should.  hindsight is 20/20, so just because Haskins was generational, doesn't necessarily mean Barrett was so much worse that Haskins should have started.  Cardale Jones QB'd the team to a national championship, using your logic, he should have started the entire year.  maybe. but things still worked out pretty well that he didn't.  

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mockjocks's picture

You make a lot of good points, Kmp. I'll never understand why Pitt Brown played over Vonn Bell in '13. Why Michael Thomas sat while guys like Chris Fields saw the field in '13.

These young 4 and 5 star guys are more ready than they make us think. Play em now, because they're going to leave early anyway. If we're going to lose  game (or 2) each year, I'd live with it easier - knowing the young stars are in early.

I know it's not easy to manage in the locker room, but something has to give. Malik Hooker playing one season is crazy. Dwayne Haskins playing one season is crazy. Marshon Lattimore playing one season is crazy.  

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45has2's picture

Starts are one thing, what about snaps played? Rotation keeps guys fresher longer and gives experience to the rookies.

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countrybuckeye's picture

The usual approach is to get a full line working in a coordinated effort, down after down, for the entire series to get points scored. Therefore, rotation isn't in the cards unless it is a blowout and they can use the time as a live scrimmage practice against "not your teammates"

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45has2's picture

You're satisfied with the usual approach. Congratulations. Hopefully, Day and company are smarter than that. Look up Bobby Bowden's Kentucky Derby offense. It was prolific and championship winning. Rotation is a proven principal. 

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DonTurner's picture

No worries, great coaching and talented players the O-line will be great.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Development has helped us reach 13 wins last season. The team is in great hands and over time, I trust that we will be where we'll need to be by the fall.

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mbabuck's picture

Help me understand this... you lose Jordan to the draft and you offer a kid from Hawaii?  When was the last time we got someone from Hawaii - especially this late in the game?

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Buxki84's picture

Maybe...this year?

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NOBLUE's picture

seems like this article or similar ones are written every year during the off season about the O line and every year we're alright by the time fall camp breaks....RELOAD...

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

I agree.  News sites generate articles and those articles generate discussions, but that doesn't mean OSU is at any great risk of not fielding a very talented and highly effective offensive line next season.  It is simply the not knowing when there are multiple positions being replaced simultaneously that creates anxiety.  I'm betting they will be just fine.

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AJHawksGoldenlocks's picture

Choosing the right coach for the o-line, wether it is retaining coach "Stud" or hiring someone else will be critical to the sucess of Ryan Days teanor. As coach Meyer liked to reiterate The oline is the life blood of the program. We have all seen what it has done for the program to have coach Johnson on the other side of the ball.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I really want to see NPF do what needs to be done to crack the starting lineup at RT. 

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mockjocks's picture

We need to fill the shelves with depth for O-Line. Our starting 5 should be really strong, especially if they stay healthy. But they definitely need more depth, we'll have problems if injuries hit that unit.

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Upnorth_Buckeye's picture

Count me in the camp that the starting unit may not see a major dip with Jordan leaving, but it relys on a few ifs. First off, Bowen needs to be 100%, which I'd assume he will be (broken bone, not torn up knee). Jordan is probably a little better than a healthy Bowen, but I don't think drastically better. The next if is a little more shaky though. if Alibi/NPF are comparable to Bowen at RT. If Jordan came back, it'd probably be best man at RT between those 3 (Bowen/alibi/npf), but now it will be between only Alibi and NPF.

And to clarify, that's just comentary on the starting unit. Make a prayer for an I jury free year, because you go from having a little depth, to almost no depth. That's honestly what hurts most about Jordan leaving.

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hetuck's picture

Like Alabi, Alex Williams stand a better chance of seeing the field on offense, not defense. Make the switch now. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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Major H's picture

I thought Alex Williams was a DE. You say they should move him to offensive tackle?

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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rick's picture

Alex is a DE. Way to light to play on the OLine. 

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Major H's picture

Last year's media guide has him at 6'6" and 260 lbs. He'd need to put on 30 lbs at least. With all the depth at DE, it might be a good move, but Williams would have to want to do it. 

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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Stoicpaisano's picture

I, for one, would like to have stability at center for a couple years. Myers, Jones, Miller...doesn’t matter.

Not qualified to talk about the development of the o-line, but that is the one position where you don’t rotate the personnel around. Meyer used the same five each season except when Hall got ejected and Bowen and Knox injuries. They need to play as a unit - you don’t mess up the rhythm by rotating. 

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rick's picture

2019 Recruits we could still end up signing to bolster our depth along the line ... obviosuly keeping Doug Nester is a must but I’d be happy adding any of the below names as well  

Innok Vimahi - Hawaii recent offer

https://247sports.com/Player/Enokk-Vimahi-46038963/

Dawand Jones - Indianapolis, IN (several recent crystal balls to Ohio State)

https://247sports.com/Player/Dawand-Jones-46052090/

Darnell Wright - West Virginia (likely Tennessee)

https://247sports.com/Player/Darnell-Wright-46035563/

Johnathon Allen - Dayton (likely Indiana) Unsure if staff feels like who is truly a take

https://247sports.com/Player/Jonathan-Allen-46050417/

The next signing period will be interesting to see if Day can address the line needs  

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gobucks1966's picture

Rotating your line is not a great idea they need to work as a unit and have chemistry. I have never seen a team rotate the o line and probably the only group that shouldn't be messed with during a game. Snap counts and many other reasons. Allen was a project to begin with and won't help this year or maybe next either?

Denny

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45has2's picture

1993 National Champion FSU rotated their O line. Bobby Bowden's Kentucky Derby offense ran fast and over the competition. Too bad you didn't see it. Oh, by the way, their QB won the Heisman that year as well. Yeah, rotating the O line does not work. Charlie Ward begs to differ.

Censores irrumasti.

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SuburbanMeyer's picture

The efficiency of an o-line rotation definitely outweighs the cost of chemistry. It is way easier to play at a high level late into the fourth quarter if you are well-rested, hydrated, etc. In terms of chemistry, these guys practice with each other every day since camp in early August. They certainly get enough game-like scenarios with each other during practice to have good enough chemistry.

Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it.

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buckslan's picture

Replacing 4 starters is never ideal but we got the right guys to do it. Max Wray and NPF are in year two and I'd expect both guys to get a lot better in their second off season. Myers and Davis are ready to play center and guard and I think they'll lock down their positions. The only question for me is left guard. Who is that going to be? I'd like to see Matthew Jones get a look there.

A line of Munford, M Jones, Myers, Davis, NPF would be very, very talented. 4 top 100 guys and Munford who was seriously underrated.

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Tosa's picture

To keep some perspective, surely some remember the walrus.

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CowCat's picture

I think the larger question in all of this is: How does it all come together?

We have a first-time head coach assembling a team for the first time. He basically has a clean slate. 4/5 OL gone. 3 top receivers gone. Likely a brand new quarterback. 1/2 of the starting running backs gone. 

Basically Ryan Day can fill in all the holes with players that fit HIS plan for the offense. It will be a new era, and it will be interesting to watch.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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jmagersobregon's picture

I think returning guards Wyatt Davis and Brandon Bowen will be all conference performers. We already have experience at both tackle spots, and Myers at center backed up by the incoming 5 star. 

This sounds good to me. The guard and center play will be key to restoring the run game, especially the inside zone run play. 

Because I couldn’t go for three

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Nikkibucksfan's picture

We recruited well. This is the job the coaches. they will hire or keep. Bring out the best in the talented players you have. Excited about the possibilities. GoBucks

Nikki emmerson

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Trebor40's picture

I am excited for the run block scheme with a line of Munford, Davis, Myers, Bowen, Alabi with a very mobile quarterback regardless of the winner we will be able to better live through occasional pass blocking issues early!  

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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