Props to Garrett Wilson... he told that kid he has his back and not long after Hartline hits him up.
Grinch isnt leaving Oklahoma for Oklahoma.
Sounds like his recruiting did
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco
"He wouldn't even need to change hashtags!" This is genius (and true).
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
So what the heck is going on. Rumors of Al Washington being brought in and nothing.
Then Corey Raymond is liking OSU tweets and then unliking them.
Can we please get some more information, I am so confused and my emotions are getting yanked in 3 million different directions.
Successful people do what they have to, whether they feel like it or not
I’m not as into Twitter, but I feel like we’re just reading tea leaves here.
"Because I couldn't go for three." - Woody Hayes
Just in on AP, the *ichigan LB coach tongue-in-cheek whisper, Krispy Kreme stock for Columbus Oh. just rose sharply.
**Anything that remotely makes hairball, ttun, and the guarantee guy keep having "nightmares about mirages" gets:
UV's, & kudos forEVER !
Thanks Kevin, Sat. Skulls are delicious with coffee & donuts.
Big Boys Basketball today! #barnburner
Morning BC - how's Israel
Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
MSU has not won at Value City Arena since Feb. 23, 2016.
“It would be huge to get over that hump,” said MSU point guard Cassius Winston, who leads the Spartans with 17.1 points and 7.8 assists a game.
“There’s a lot of places we haven’t won yet, and this is one of them."
*Here's to keeping it that way.
Hey Ling, hope you had a good Christmas and start to the new year.
Can someone please explain to me how there is a 5* DB out there that was and is interested in coming to TOSU and we haven't been recruiting him???? WTH was going on with our DB coaches? We need new blood onvthe Defensive side of the ball! Get me Al Washington in here (he has been rumored to be coming) or Marcus Freeman (my personal wish for LB coach) Put Schiano back with the safeties and somebody find out what it would take to get Coach Coombs back, whatever the price...he's more than worth it!
Also, that kid looks awesome in his BDBITL uniform LOL
Yes ok, its so easy to say "pay him more, he's worth it" when you are not responsible for the budget. Gene Smith doesn't have blank checks to hand out at,will.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
He is pretty close to being able to do it.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
He better figure it out with top coordinators, Brent Venable, getting over $2 M now. Hard to believe that Clemson has more cast than OSU.
He was being recruited by the Grinch who wasn't recruiting him hard enough.
"If you take it to em and you keep takin it to em , hell there's no question whose gonna win" W.W.H
I took it to mean that Grinch wasn't recruiting him hard because he (Grinch) knew he wasn't going to be at OSU.
Dwight McGlothern jr  @DMcglothern2
No wonder he didn’t recruit me hard to come to OSU , Can anyone tell them to recruit me hard ?
Dwight McGlothern jr  @DMcglothern2
No wonder he didn’t recruit me hard to come to OSU , Can anyone tell them to recruit me hard ?
Grinch was only making $800000 give him a break
Yep. It's hard to recruit when you have to worry about feeding your family.
FYI Marcus Freeman isn’t leaving his DC job to come coach LB here. He should be looked at for the DC job. I also like Jon Tenuta (from C-Bus) who is on Ficks staff at UC and has probably taught Marcus Freeman a lot about being a DC. Tenuta was a big name only a few years ago but got caught up in quite a few head coaching changes- I remember he played really agreessice style of defense with ND and GT I believe. His defenses put a TON of pressure on the QB
Yea I wasn't meaning bring Marcus Freeman in just to be LB coach, I would like to see him brought in to be a Co-DC/LB coach but I didn't say that clearly here. I've said that on other threads though. I think he deserves a shot to be a DC here as well, but what I meant was as his specific position coach outside of DC responsibilities to be with the LB's
Not to be all stalky but I took a gander at that kid’s twitter and he sure sounds interested in being a Buckeye.
Glad to hear Grinch is leaving if he was so neglectful w/ recruiting. 5 stars should not have to ask to be recruited.
I can't remember the kid's name but he was a safety from California who was committed to Ohio State (along with Proctor). He tweeted something about wondering why Florida State hadn't offered him...soon after, FSU offered and he flipped. Guess it happens in other places too.
That kid made the wrong decision then, Florida State is in shambles.
Jaden Woodbey more sober ngg like that?
Jaiden Woodbey. FSU may be in shambles but he started as s true freshman. He had 59 total tackles, which was 4th on the team. Brendon White (46), Isaiah Pryor (31) and Jahsen Wint (26) combined for 103 (although presumably some would’ve been on special teams).
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Further proof that losing Grinch not a big deal and may be more addition by subtraction.
Agreed - I don’t feel the loss here like I did when Vrabel, Herman, Fickel, and Coombs left. It would be interesting to go back and see what the WSU writers and fans said when Grinch left there for OSU.
(likewise, when Beck came from Nebraska, I had Big Red fans telling me from the get go that he would not be good for OSU QBs)
That is because all those other guys you suggested were here longer, that's all. Grinch turned the D around at WSU, a place that is notorious for big offense and a tough place to recruit. The book on Grinch hasn't been written yet. There are tens of thousands of kids out there, and I am sure it is common for some to fall through the cracks everywhere. Suggesting this is proof we didn't want Grinch is ridiculous. Urban brought him in, and though he has had some misses, most worked out, and that was enough for me. Posts like this are very similar to "didn't think that kid was very good anyway"after he chose another school. Pretty weak IMO.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
No one seems to question the Grinch hire. I do. Before Grinch was co-DC, the Buckeyes were pretty good - statistically - on defense. Grinch comes on and they tank. What gives? I'm not sad to see him go.
Do you know the difference between causation and correlation?
Yes, I am a statistician. No seriously - MS statistics.
Causation means x variable caused y result . Not a coincidence, which can be measured by correlation.
But there are two sides to evaluate.
Did Grinch cause the safeties and defense to be bad ?
Did grinch cause the safeties to improve ?
I cant answer the first, but it’s painfully obvious that he couldn’t judge who the best safeties were in his room. The improvement came by chance, a coincidence that fuller was ejected, and White came in and never left the line up since. Sure as hell not causation by the position coach.
certainly players have shone as a result of injury or unavailability of the starter, aka Nick Foles taking the Eagles to a Super Bowl championship. But Carson Wentz went down, and the back up was inserted. Wentz didn’t perform questionably all year where the coach should have considered a change anyway.
Kevin, can you explain how the coaching staff covers recruiting ? For example, I would have expected Mark Pantoni to have made continual contacts after Coombs left, followed by Taver Johnson calls.
And still, even after the recruit reaches out, Hartline makes the call. (Maybe Johnson is on vacation or something).
OR is there a regional set up for recruiting where Hartline covers Texas ?
Hartline seems to be turning himself into one hell of a recruiter so perhaps they made him the big gun to go get this kid?
I think it’s a combination of things. Pantoni and his staff are responsible for vetting a player's skill, character and interest, probably acting as the first point of contact, maybe even going as far as to extend an offer—sometimes, it’s the “non-committable” variety that’s contingent upon further analysis and building mutual interest. Then either the position coach and/or whoever covers that area gets involved further vetting the player’s skill and building the relationship with the player and his inner circle (coaches, parents, guardians, siblings). So Pantoni probably did his job but it sounds like, if the kid is to believed, Grinch dropped the ball building the relationship. I don’t know if Hartline covers Texas but he is being credited with Jaxon Smith-Njigba, who’s also a wide receiver.
Based on what the kid said, I think he was inferring that Grinch not recruiting him hard because he knew he wasn't going to be at OSU.
The Buckeye coaches, at least under Meyer, did have regional recruiting areas. Of course positional coaches or Urban himself could also be involved, but they had regional assignments.
Missing this kid isn’t necessarily Grinch’s fault. I’d be interested to know who’s area this was.
I would love to see Mike Doss get a job with the Buckeyes! @THEMikeDoss
Go Bucks! Beat Sparty!!!!
Go Sebastian, Sounds like you’ve already declared!
I honestly think our fellow B10 foes have no idea what is instore for them come many Autumns. No doubt we are witnessing a dynasty led by Coach Day!!!!
Popeyes? Bojangles baby, all the way. Sorry to disagree with Michelin chefs but every city wuth a Popeyes doesnt have a Pollo Campero, best fried chicken i ever had. Only in Miami and Boca. I always preferred their red beans&rice vs dirty rice.
I do love me some Bojangles, Cajun Filet Biscuit is where its at....
Hot Chicken Takeover is the best chicken ever. Game over
Hot chicken takeover forever. Columbus has it good.
Go Bucks! Beat Sparty!
Those Bo- Rounds are really good too!
Simply Southern Smokehouse and Buffet in Myrtle Beach Has the best fried chicken I have ever had, and I have had Hot Chicken Takeover at the North Market.
m GO BLOW!!!
+1 for HCT!
A Pollo Campero opened in my area a while back. Now I will definitely be trying it. Before reading this I figured it was just another regular chicken place & was doubtful it could be better than one of the local places down the street. Our Frenchy’s moved inconviently far for take home fried chicken. I was mad about that.
Uncle Nick’s on Northwest Boulevard in Grandview has some of the best chicken in Cbus (not an HCT fan only because I don’t like spicy)...and you can often see football players here enjoying the viands, too! I used to see Zeke there a lot.
The Grinch that stall defense.
This is one of the reasons Brian Hartline is such an asset to the Buckeye staff. He is utilizing social media and looking for any opportunity to recruit the best players. I've got to hand it to Dwight McGlothern for trying to get attention from OSU. Sounds like he really wants to play at Ohio State. Get him Brian!
Also, I agree Kevin. This would be one of the best recruiting stories if the Buckeyes get a commitment from McGlothern.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
I recall 2019 5-star DE Kayvon Thibodeaux also lobbied for an offer on Twitter but Ohio State was locked in on Zach Harrison and he never got one.
Wouldn't it be great if a Brett McDoucheNozzle tweet about Grinch helped unintentionally land us a 5* CB after he spent an entire career's worth of missteps and bold face lies in the span of 2 months trying to destroy Ohio State and Urban Meyer?
Man I still hate that guy. I hope our paths never cross because my filter and restraint from confronting BS and the people that peddle it has become non-existent in my old age....
"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"
I’d love to give that self righteous pompous ass a piece of my mind. He doesn’t give a shit about domestic violence, he just wanted to make a name for himself by taking down a big-time coach.
Just don't land yourself in jail Psybuck. Stick with words. I feel the same way.
It’s pretty amazing the offseason has been so wild that virtually no one is talking about the top-15 matchup in Columbus today. Bad day to be a Spartan!
There was a long time poster on OSU boards that went by Pooh-bah Buckeye..never bothered to know what that meant until today..
these player rankings only go back to 2000. Katzenmoyer and Pace would have been 1.000's.in the 90;s. Speilman was on the cover of Wheaties in the 80's...so the correct title might be "Highest rated player at OSU in the past 19 yrs."
"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody
Yeah, Kevinish apparently assunes Buckeye football history started after Y2K, he made the same statements in the articles yesterday.
The Buckeyes just brought in the highest-rated player in program history Ohio State's 247 rankings to follow the most prolific passer in program history, and he's approved by the former highest-rated player in program history Ohio State's 247 rankings
Love me some Popeyes. Been craving that chicken since my first time in DC in 1982.
Send the Earth Reverberating
Popeyes in China?
Oh I wish. But here they have a spicy Siquan (Szechuan) chicken cooked with far more peppers than chicken. It’s my go-to here.
No relation to Siquan Barkley, correct?
Always interested in reading about the Salem witch trials, even on a Saturday morning. Makes sense that there would be medical conditions that would have contributed to the hysteria no doubt.
Tate vs Justin will be fun to see. I want to see Fields with free reign, unlike what he seemed to have at UGA last season, but I really like Martell also. Spirited competition will likely create a great offense, I hope.
Big one for the BasketBucks. Looking forward to watching that one. Enjoy your Saturday everyone.
"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie
1. Ryan Day's reign as the Grand Pooh-bah of Ohio State football is off to a roaring start.
2. Sounds like Hartline has the social media wherewithal of ZS, but can also coach and doesn't have the personal baggage.
3. Tracking flights and tweets is more sophisticated than seeing if Jimbo put a Christmas tree to the curb two weeks before the holiday. College football's tea leaves are getting complicated.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Go Bucks - beat Sparty.
My prediction, Tate transfers. I know we had the best passing QB in OSU history in front of him, but there were plenty of opportunities for Tate to throw the ball and they wouldn’t let him. Hope he stays, but how could he if he gets passed over again.
I realize I may be a lone voice in the wilderness but I absolutely hate it when posters suggest or predict certain players will transfer. It’s like predicting close friends will get divorced—what purpose does it serve? To be able to say “I told you so” if it happens? That’s not the high ground.
Not a lone voice Iowa. 11w staff, and many OSU fans, have been very critical of Tate recently. I don’t understand the disdain. In any event, we can run off a proven winner and 4* QB because we have Cinderella now.
I agree 100%. Fields knows nothing of the OSU play book and hasn't proven anything at the college level. Tate has put in a lot of work for OSU, knows the playbook, and has built solid relationships and trust with the other players. In my mind, he is "next man up". I loved his response during the Rose Bowl interview. Competition is good, but I think he's the QB until someone can beat him out. Not easy to do. Steel will sharpen steel.
Because this is a forum to talk, gossip, dicuss, and give our opinions about OSU athletics. I respect your opinion and would like the same from you. I actually like Tate and hope he stays, just giving my opinion.
Iowa, I couldn't agree with this more. Welcome to the inter webs my friend--often no better than a sewer pit.
And one of the games they did, he went 10/10. If I was betting, I’d put my money on fields. Having said that, all of this “Tate can’t throw” stuff is absurd. Does he have Haskins’s arm? No, but he throws much better than many of our past QBs.
The sample size to evaluate on Tate’s arm is too small. It’s based on lukewarm performances as the third man in the spring game, hardly playing past the Rutgers game, and when he did, being relegated to running the wildcat. Sure, who doesn’t wish he was 6-3/215 but I love his mobility and feistiness. I’ll be cheering for him just as I will Baldwin and Fields because I want what’s best for Ohio State.
But I also think about what happened to Alabama when Jalen Hurts took over in the second half of their 2016 opener—two QBs left during the season and one quit immediately afterwards but at least he stuck around. My #1 fear is that Justin Fields coming in could drive both Tate and Baldwin away. And then it’s just Fields and who? Our backup’s # should be 0 because that’s the margin of error we’ll have if Fields gets hurt.
I might need a bigger sample size to figure out if someone is going to be a good college QB, but I don’t need more to know if they have a good arm and can make throws.
Hang in there Tate. Its all a competition.
Keep the competition where it belongs for a Team sport: on the field, not on the internet or in the locker room or in the Press.
Tell that to the "press" - bunch of scumbags. The Tate interview was blown out of proportion and the headline was not indicative of what he said. It is clickbait and the "press" moving on from Meyer/Smith, Florida transfer student/racist, to now QB room at OSU.
Did the press make Tate tweet almost a month ago before Fields even confirmed he was transferring? At some point people need to stop blaming "the media" and everything and everyone except the real problem.
They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.
We’ve got it better than them. Now go win a basketball game today.
Good luck to the BasketBucks today!
I have no idea how they recruit college kids, but this seems like a massive whiff by Grinch (or Coombs?). Don’t they have some transition material they hand over to the next guy? OSUisDBU.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
The kid just finished his junior year. He was a first-team all-district selection at both WR and S as a sophomore at a different high school and was offered back in July so whoever dropped the ball, it definitely was not Coombs, who left a year ago.
This off-season is amazingly ridiculous. I want to call Grinch a bum, but don't know enough of the story. However, a 5* #34 player in the country should never ask about his recruitment, especially at the DB spot. Garret Wilson is a better recruiter than Grinch, that I am sure of.
See above, assistant coaches had recruiting zones under Meyer, might not have even been Grinch's area (always wondered why you would see a receiver coach reach out to a DB for example). Also, don't underestimate that some of these kids go to twitter and say stuff like "recruit me bro" simply because they like the attention, never having any serious interest in the particular school in question. This is just a guess on my part, but since there are only so many hours in the day, coaches have to be savvy in how much time they spend on a kid they have reason to believe isn't seriously considering your school.
I talked last night with a friend who is a Georgia fan, lives in Athens, Ga. He says the reason Fields didn't play more was his inability to learn to read defenses. Makes some sense that this skill might not be developed well in high school, given the massive talent spread, but Fields is reportedly a smart kid and could be taught, given the right coaching. Not familiar with Ga's QB coach, but If I remember right, Kirby Smart was mainly a defensive guy. Ga's play calling kinda confirms that. Maybe that's one of the reasons he chose OSU and Ryan Day. Gonna be an interesting year.
I live in Atlanta and hear all kinds of excuses why he left and that is one of a few I’ve heard that I don’t believe. Fields didn’t play because the guy that got there a year earlier helped take that team to its first title game in 38 years, and if he’d handed the ball off just a bit more they’d be national champs. Smart wasn’t benching a kid with what Fromm helped accomplish. The issue is Smart. If he was more offensive minded and had better offensive coaches he’d understand you need more than Fromm to beat Bama, and Fields was that guy. I just don’t buy the “He can’t read defenses”. Vince Young was arguably one of the least intelligent QB’s of the last couple decades that won a title and he was a runner, which UGA needs to do more of, whether it’s with their backs or QB. One thing I’ve learned living in GA, UGA fans are the utmost experts with excuses.
Yea but a distant second to ttun fans. If all other excuses don’t work...the game didn’t matter anyways.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
I’d love to see an article on Garret Wilson regarding his winning the All-American Bowl Man of the Year and the reason for it. Also would like to see the story behind the other Buckeye recruits that were nominated.
Don’t go to Popeyes on Tuesday nights unless you feel like waiting a bit. There’s some sort of special on Tuesdays & it gets crowded. (Can you just put my 8 pieces in the stupid box & hand it to me? I didn’t get sides - I see more than enough right there, why do I have to wait 20 minutes? - end rant).
It's Saturday. Sounds like your rant’s been stewing in its juices and zimmering for a few days...
Next time my wife goes OOT to see her mother, I may be hitting up Popeyes. (I can’t eat food like that when she’s around...if you get my drift...)
Sir, this is an Arby's
We have a Raising Cane’s coming here. Spoiled in the 330, ya know?
I used to approve my sales reps expense accounts and one guy ate Popeye's chicken for lunch almost every day. I asked him about it. He said he thought they put a certain drug in it and he was addicted. I have a Popeye's and A Raisin Canes by my house, can't remember the last time I bought anything from either. Might have to make a run.
An addictive chemical you say....now “give your mother a kiss or I’ll kick your teeth in!”
Funny part is I’ve only really had KFC. Never had the others. Chic Fil A like twice. I will say the chicken tenders at Sheetz are pretty darn good though!
Spoiled in the 330, ya know?
I think its telling that Hartline and not Taver reached out to the 5 star. I am also not sold on Schiano staying. If the DC from Patriots gets a Head Coaching job, I think that might be a good landing spot for everyone as the defense gets a real overhaul
Grinch was too busy making it rain in the gentleman's club with Tommy and Zack to recruit that kid.
Uh, yeah, that’s not even close to funny.
Times like this you really wish you weren't limited to just the one DV.
PSU just doesnt learn. 1 game suspension to Pat Chambers for cursing and shoving a kid on live TV?????
Uummm - fried chicken. Got me salivating like Dwayne Haskins looking at a single high safety and man coverage on Johnny Dixon.
Imagine checking out 11w on a Saturday morning and learning about deadly herpes monkeys living in your city...
I was curious how a herpes virus is deadly to humans?
There are several simple but not politically correct solutions to this problem. Will it take a human death or serious illness to trigger the response?
I cruised past that monkey island while on a bass fishing trip about 20 years ago. Rumor was they escaped from the old Tarzan movie productions that were filmed in Silver Springs. They do not hide from humans and are very aggressive towards any boaters that come near their island. It was a strange, funny and scary highlight to a trip in Central Florida's back waters.
The McHV-1 virus. My first thought was... Is there anything McDonald's will not advertise? and..
I wonder if it comes with a toy?
The 3 year old's excitement to meet TBDBITL is great. Future Buckeye band member.
Watching that little guy in the band uniform made my day
Same here, good way to start Saturday with no football.
The off season woes have begun - 2019 is shaping up nicely.
That Apple article is spot on. A mature blue chip vs. constant speculation that has to end sometime.
The Apple article was accurate, but they missed one contributing factor.
With every new version of the Mac or iPhone they keep removing input jacks or changing the input technology. My iPhone 8 has no headphone jack. I have to use a stupid adaptor to use my favorite headphones. The new Macs have no standard USB ports, etc. etc.
This is a disincentive to upgrading. People want to use the peripherals they already own, not be forced to buy new ones.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Because Popeye's is incredible and cheap. In terms of pound for pound and return on investment? Very hard to beat Popeye's IMO. Especially when you factor in they're everywhere from the south to Ohio to Boston. I liked Hot Chicken Takover when I lived in Cbus but isn't even an option for me now.
Additionally, I am over the moon about Fields & Yurcich, ready for a Basketbucks win and some NFL playoffs. Go Bucks!
No wonder he didn’t recruit me hard to come to OSU , Can anyone tell them to recruit me hard ?
Ohio State co-DC Alex Grinch will be Oklahoma’s defensive coordinator, @BruceFeldmanCFB reports
Grinch was never really all-in, it sounds like.
I am not saying this is true based on this, but if true it is not a professional approach.
Go All-In wherever you are. Be a pro while you are there.
That is all.
In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...
Honestly, good riddance to Grinch. He never really seemed like he fit. I can’t put my finger on it, but it never seemed natural.
Congrats Mr. Wilson!
Lets got get that 5star corner!
Meanwhile, over on Oklahoma boards, they're probably accusing us of being salty that he left and won't be missed.
I don't know what I don't know but it seems like maybe there were too many chiefs and not enough Indians on the defensive staff, i.e., when you have two DCs, you don't have any. Assistants need to check their egos at the door but when you bring in a hotshot younger coach to work with older guys in their 50s and 60s and he's looking to implement his scheme, you're going to have some heads butting. I believe Day earned the staff's respect, while Grinch may not have. If true, that doesn't make Grinch a cancer, more likely a poor fit. in hindsight. But again, that's only my speculation.
Grinch is going to have talent at Oklahoma that's comparable to Ohio State's so we'll see what he can do when he's not sharing the reins.
Terrelle Pryor approved gives me a good laugh.
Don't know much about Grinch... Except our defense took a huge dip this year with him on staff. Good riddance!
Congrats to Garrett Wilson and Dwight McGlothern. May you both have incredible Buckeye careers!