They are paid to have opinions. Its what it is. I suggest you avoid it if it makes you this upset.
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There Are Whispers That Urban Meyer Was Forced Out of Ohio State Because He Has A Gambling Problem https://t.co/95jNxK5oPS
— Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) January 2, 2019
Apparently Urban Meyer is the new Michael Jordan and the retirement is just a cover up for a gambling suspension.
Didn't Portnoy go to Michigan?
Yes which makes it that much more of a reach. Just throwing things at a wall and seeing what sticks.
Because Portnoy is such a scumbag, this video is one of my favorites to watch when I'm feeling down. Portnoy gave a speech at Michigan's business school one time. My good friend from high school was there, as we both love Barstool. He said that Portnoy, a married man, wouldn't stop aggressively flirting with the girls who attended the speech. He's insufferable.
Number 1 rule in life: always beat That Team Up North.
The sunken place
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
You do understand he's kidding right? It's part of his shtick.
Well, of course. At points, it is funny. At other times, it is quite annoying and scummy.
I'll tell him where to schtick it.
Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege.
Tyrion: A wedding.
So he says, "Unless you go to Ohio and can’t do simple addition". Makes it pretty clear he hates Ohio and anyone associated with it. Especially THE Ohio State. What he says is about as reliable as Woodson's prediction of a Michigan revenge win on TOSU. So, who in he world would listen to his shtick?
"The most important statistic, is the number of wins in a season".........Woody Hayes
That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life.
He's the stool president alright...Portnoy is a colossal turd.
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
Be careful, he might tweet out your personal number and sick his minions on you.
Well, if you are a woman that is. That's his go-to move. Saturdays are for the A Holes.
It was his move with Elika. He's the exact reason I don't read/watch/listen to anything Barstool does (even though there are some good ones there).
Believe it or not, most members of MgoBlog think the same thing of Portnoy and Barstool that Buckeyes fans do. And he went to school there. I guess hes the TUN version of Buck I Guy
So...he's coming back in a few years after managing a baseball team?
There are whispers that Dave Portnoy enjoys having sex with goats.
See how easy it is? Now if I just had a platform to deliver this nonsense I'd get plenty of clicks too.
Fields of Dreams
His comments confirm that he wants to screw one G.O.A.T in particular.
"Our kind of families win a few more football games than others." Coach Hayes
You heard that too. Uncle's best friends neighbor said tbe same thing. Second source confirms Dave Portnoy has known goats in the biblical sense
Have you ever seen a fierce animal who you were sure wouldn't bite? Because I haven't.
I aim to misbehave.
Well; if he's married to a *ichigan women, it probably better with the goat.
The only hard day was yesterday
So.... what's wrong with that?
Whoso would be a man, must be a non-conformist.
There are whispers that ESPN cut ties with Barstool when they found out about Portnoy's trip to sex rehab for his bestiality problem.
See how easy that is?
PG <3 PG
It's worse than you can imagine, the animals are killed prior to coitus.
That’s beating a dead horse.
When asked how Portnoy was as a lover, the sheep replied with......"Baaaaaaaaaaad".
Portnoy is a troll with no more credibility than a rock when it comes to anything sports related. His source is probably a bunch of college kids who just woke up from a hangover.
"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin
His source is some guy with the initials B.M.
So, an idiot college kid who just woke up with a hangover?
This must guy must be Brett McDickbags husband or something. Whatever drugs that dude is taking...he should probably lay off them his brain is done for. That might have been the dumbest thing I have ever read.
"Blowing a 25 point lead and giving Washington one of the great back door covers of all time. An Ohio State guy flat falling down while returning at 2pt conversion INT like Urban Meyer shot him from the rafters. I’ve literally never seen anything like it."
Which is why they moved him from a position that only impacts football, and moved him to Asst AD, where he can potentially throw games in any sport to cash in on Vegas money. Smart.
Fencing and gymnastics lines are surprisingly weak.....just saying..................
There’s a sucker born every minute. You can still win bets on bad teams.
Dave Portnoy is a walking piece of shit
Yup, and Barstool is a cesspool of misogyny dressed up as machismo, low-brow content for REAL MEN.
Portnoy is the biggest piece of shit there – and perhaps the only person who can beat Clay Travis in the race to be the shittiest talking head in sports media – and since he's not a 'real journalist' he can publish horseshit conjecture like that without getting questioned or reprimanded.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
Lots of racism, homophobia, and misogyny in the comments section of articles there if you ever venture over to that cess pool. Doesn't surprise me at all that its owned by a scUM alum.
As far as I know Portnoy actually sold the company but still has a stake in it and is their CEO.
They do hire some great content creators (PFT Commenter, the Lights Camera Podcast folks, etc) but man, seeing that brand affiliated with any of them just puts a sour taste in my mouth – and as you say, as bad as the site's overall content can get, the 'Stoolies' are far worse.
I've long regarded Barstool as a cesspool for exactly the reasons you've said.
If you look at the people in your life that LOVE Barstool, they look and act exactly how you would expect someone who likes Barstool to look and act like.
He will go manage a baseball team for a year then come back and lead Ohio state to 3 straight title. Then go coach at capital after a 2nd retirement.
He is clearly joking since he lost Bucks plus 5.5
How confident are we that this isn't satire? Because, if we see it as an Onion article, it's actually pretty funny...
Its 100 percent satire. I got a good laugh out of it
Thanks for confirming. In that case, everybody needs to lighten up. This is actually pretty funny. Especially given Meyer's continued messages about family, morality, etc.
So in some sense, this is kind of like the article(s) about people's over-the-top reactions to articles on the Onion. (If anyone hasn't seen it, I highly encourage looking for it; several people sincerely freak out about an article saying Godzilla is destroying stuff). Don't let the point fly over your head.
So, in 2019, can we expect Urban debuting in center field for a AA affiliate?
I KNEW IT!!!!
Somewhere someone had to say something about addiction to pain medication, child abuse, just look at his kids. AND since his players are so fast and Haskins has such a big arm, PED use must be rampant at Ohio State. Others are just waiting for an Ohio State player to murder someone.
Thanks for not including a link to that, and I'm serious.
Figured there'd be some indifferent takes out there on UFM's retirement, page clicks still rule all.
The man has his flaws, and made some major missteps...but today isn't the day to revisit those.
So, world, now that UFM is gone and Ryan Day is the coach, who people barely know...is Ohio State still a bad guy?? Asking for a friend.
Answer is Yes, a butt load of people still hate Notre Dame and they haven't won anything since the 80's.
The year is young. Give 'em time.
Considering the way they attacked us with Tressel (well before tat gate was even a thought) I would say yes. The sec has hated us since Woody and therefore espn and the media hates us. Shit, our own freaking conference hates us half the time.
Shit, our own University President hates us. So there is that.
"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."
The offseason is the longest season.
reminds me of the movie "They Live"
This is the most accurate depiction of facebook I've ever seen. It's realer than real. It's. SURREAL...
You can do this cool thing where you ignore them and don't click on any articles or talk about the articles.
If you insist on viewing the outhouse, you are bound to see a lot of shit (and plenty of assholes too).
WHATS WITH ALL THE THREADS WITH ALL-CAPS TODAY?
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
now that is primo, St X grad. Happy New Year.
Urban Meyer & OSU bring the clicks. Drama angles get more views and attention, just look at which articles get referenced here. It’s that simple.
I was at a seminar at a hotel lately and picked up a USA Today (free from the front desk)to read while I was waiting for the seminar to start. It was the first time in years that I had read USA today. What a piece of garbage it has become. I mean that it was never good but now it is not worthy of being used to wrap 10 day old fish.
Years ago when usa today first appeared, in the 'TV' like dispensers, we referred to it as 'McNewspaper'...as it was the fast food of news, and just about as good for you.
"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Woody Hayes
I have traveled non stop for most of my career. I have always called it McPaper. Equated it to junk food. If I have brought it home it was to use in the chimney started for my grill.
Well, espn has their on take on it....like someone else said, it is what it is. The media is pretty jealous, that’s obvious. Meyer is a good man and his record speaks for itself. Who cares what they all say.
So at its core, aren’t these all really just attacks on every police division that has reaspondedvto the accusations in the past, whether it involved Zach Smith, players or coaches. This would be a big conspiracy, man, spanning multiple states over the course of two decades. Is Urban that powerful?
They hate us because they ain’t us baby
Here is another gem of a hit job. Coming fast and furious today.
Another guy who writes sensationalized pieces. Nobody in LA pays attention to him at all.
Nobody in LA pays attention to college football.
Seeing "Plaschke" in the link was enough for me to resist clicking on it. PTI-wannabe talking head.
What's the "story" in this one? Quick summary? Don't want to click the link.
Same scorching hot takes as everyone else.
It was nice talking f him to add 3 wins to Urbans record at Ohio State. I thought he only won 83. But according to Plaschke, he won 86.
The whole mcbutthurt piece is what’s wrong with the media today. Some don’t post facts, and nothing happens when they are proven wrong for crappy journalism.
Urban did a lot of great on the field for Ohio State (and I really appreciate his advocacy for mental health off the field) but his legacy will forever be complicated thanks to the off-field issues his players had at Florida, the three retirements (especially if he comes back again) and the Zach Smith stuff.
Many OSU fans take Urban at his word and give him the benefit of the doubt about how he handled B1G Media Days, what he says he knew about the 2015 incident and his claim that the deleted texts were coincidental.
People outside of the OSU fan sphere don't see it that way. There's probably a bit of truth to both – Urban acted in good faith and handled the incident the way he thought he was supposed to, but also knew more than he let on in interviews and made a really unethical move by deleting the texts to conceal that.
On-field glory doesn't make someone infallible or above question. Suggesting that Urban has done nothing wrong ever is just as misguided as acting like his entire legacy is a sham.
Our fans (and the local media) are romanticizing Urban's legacy a bit too much and lionizing the man, omitting the sour parts of his story. People who are not Ohio State fans are going too far in the other direction, suggesting that he's a liar and compromises morals to win (and acting like his return to coaching is inevitable).
His legacy is and always will be a complicated one. Discussing that legacy shouldn't mean omitting the bad parts – or even the questions around his handling of off-the-field issues throughout his tenure – it's a discussion that needs to be had at some point. It's also a discussion that won't be more relevant than it is now (unless he returns to coaching or we get some new information) but at the same time, it's one that won't change anyone's mind.
There are a lot of questionable things and mistakes along his career path, for sure. It's when those media personalities become sanctimonious hyperbole machines that I hate. Rationality means acknowledging the uncertainty surrounding the scandal last summer, but that doesn't generate clicks so it's all about the hot takes.
Rationality means acknowledging the uncertainty surrounding the scandal last summer
True, but we're seeing it work both ways.
To some, that uncertainty vindicates Urban Meyer and casts enough doubt that he ever did anything wrong. To others, that same uncertainty suggests that we weren't given the full story – perhaps in part due to Urban deleting his texts.
To me, the uncertainty just makes me feel uncertain.
Every outlet is tripping over itself to have the discussion about his legacy (while individual media members are making judgements either way), but the man just retired yesterday. Given all of the uncertainty, acting like Urban's legacy is set one way or the other is a fool's errand.
Many OSU fans take Urban at his word and give him the benefit of the doubt about how he handled B1G Media Days, what he says he knew about the 2015 incident and his claim that the deleted texts were coincidental.
If memory serves me correctly, Urban's attorney said he has all of Urban's texts and none were deleted.
I have not seen that anywhere (and just did a cursory search) but if that is the truth, you'd assume they would have at some point been handed over to the committee during their investigation. The fact remains that investigation did not find any texts over one year old.
Tough to say what's on those texts – or if Urban intentionally changed the settings (or, if he did, if they were in response to the Smith stuff), but it still leaves me (and many others) with an uneasy feeling.
It doesn't meet the criteria for spoliation, so for those giving Meyer the benefit of the doubt, it won't sully his legacy. Others assume the worst but can't prove it.
The possibility of Urban deleting the texts for nefarious reasons and then not being forthcoming about it can't be ruled out. It also can't be proven. But just the possibility of things having played out that way is enough to give me pause when thinking about his legacy.
This is the most rational comment in the thread.
When there are two or more sides, I like to say, "the truth is usually somewhere in the middle." I think your assessment of this summer's events are spot on - a bit of truth to both sides.
I'm a huge fan of the program and Urban, but we can't escape that he has some baggage throughout his career. It makes me a little sad because I do think he cares deeply about his players and is a good person. BUT that doesn't erase the facts: his legacy is complicated and his retirement is a big deal. National media outlets are going to have more to say than "he retired" because he's a historically great coach with some baggage. It is what it is (and not some MSM conspiracy).
National media outlets are going to have more to say than "he retired" because he's a historically great coach with some baggage. It is what it is (and not some MSM conspiracy).
Yeah, OSU fans can get up-in-arms over any negative comments from media members about Urban Meyer, but at the same time, the Rose Bowl broadcast and much of the other coverage leading up to it (particularly on ESPN) vaguely mentioned 'controversy' at the beginning of the season, which is understandably seen by many outside of the realm of OSU fans as being too easy on Meyer or minimizing what happened in order to keep the "ride off into the sunset" narrative going.
ESPN clearly tried to walk the line between respecting Urban's on-field achievements while also not omitting the questionable things that have happened in his career. By trying to split it down the middle, they ended up just pissing everyone off, I think.
Our fans are romanticizing Urban's legacy a bit too much, omitting the sour parts of his story. People who are not Ohio State fans are going too far in the other direction, suggesting that he's a liar and compromises morals to win.
Totally agreed with just about everything you said. The only thing I'd add is that it's not hard to assume Urban did something wrong by concealing the texts and not telling everything he knew. Anyone not an OSU fan will for good reason assume he's hiding something that would make him look bad. That's the only conclusion one can generate from hiding information. The only way to exonerate himself would be to bring forth those communications. But, my hunch is that will never happen because duh...it would make him look bad. The only question is would it make him look worse than what the non-OSU public already thinks. We probably will never know what information he hid and this will remain part of why there will be questions behind his legacy.
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This is some incredible journalism as well (On New Year’s Day, Urban Meyer, Ohio State’s head football coach and a two-time national champion, will take to the sidelines for his final game as a college head coach.):
They took the time today at 12:30pm EST to correct an earlier version of the article stating the length of his suspension was 3 games not 2 games. Top quality editing as well....
I’m more interested in knowing Ryan Day’s baggage.
Those of us who remember Woody are not surprised. I don’t read hit pieces on coaches period. Generalizations about Woody or Urban made in my presence will be firmly and politely corrected, bless their hearts.
Our people are everywhere, Esto Dignus.
Amen Tex. The trouble with the news nowadays is that it is nearly impossible to separate fact from fiction. Lies and rumors are mixed up in a big bowl with the truth. Separating that truth is often impossible. The generalizations you speak of are not worth arguing about. Most people's minds are already made up, in my opinion. At least that is what I've experienced.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
I am not reading any of those links ...ever. They just want clicks and the more absurd the nonsense , the more people fall for it.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it
F*** Em, that's what I say. We know Urban is a good dude and a great coach. He has done amazing things on and off the field. Its the Buckeyes Against the World.. and that's the way we like it.
Iv been reading Buckeye: A study of Coach Woody Hayes and the Ohio State football machine and it gives some pretty good insight into Woody's opinion on the media. My blood pressure cant handle most of these "reporters" anymore, I also mute the games now because I cant listen to fowler jizzing his pants every time something goes wrong for us. Its Paul Keels or nothing for me now lol.
I’ve said this in the past, ESPN and other sports outlets are no different than all the fake mainstrain liberal media, I.e. Communist News Network (CNN) MSNBC, CBS, NBC. ABC....The so called media is so far to the left of center and so biased that we are really living in dangerous times.
I hate to tell you this, but with your "views" you are just as much a part of the problem. I suppose the other outlets that share your political views are 100% factual and unbiased?
There is no such thing as unbiased media.
Luckynutz has the only appropriate response to this sub-thread, everyone you meet has an agenda. They are either buying something, selling something, or trying to get you to believe something.
I’m trying to understand your angle here.
The problem is that there is only ONE mainstream right-wing media network. Therefore, a mass coalition of left-leaning media outlets has a much further reach and much greater ability to influence.
Fine post, wrong website. This is a sports forum.
I heard Trevor Maddich this morning who came out and said the original piece on Meyer this summer was riddled with information that was proven to be false....so there's that....and it was on espn
So much of what gets reported in media is repeated gossip. It’s not confirmed nor detailed. It’s a reflection, IMO, of the one sentence click bait world of internet media brinksmanship. And a generation now that has come of age with it. I read a comment today on Mgo in which the poster said” OSU was finally forced to fire Smith after he beat his wife multiple times and they couldn’t hide it any more. “ There are so many falsehoods in that statement, yet no one corrected anything in it.
This is one of the primary reasons why, I don't think he'll coach again. Why put yourself and your family thru all that B.S. He can still be involved with tOSU and sit back and enjoy his grandkids. Leave the nonsense and headaches to other people.
Big Ten Man, stuck in Pac-12 Land
For all these reporters that continue to put essentially gossip out there it proves many things. First there are way too many people writing about sports so that its hard to separate the quality, which is out there, from the garbage. Its the exact same way with news, music, entertainment, etc. If there were only 25 cable channels and about 10 major websites, all these people that really have no talent and get paid for most of the time making up stuff would have to actually get a real job: I for one will not read one of these fools stories and give any credit to them for writing fictional stories. Just give it a few days and it will be on to something else. These reporters would do best to remember not to throw stones when you live in a glass house.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public"---H.l. Mencken
I would just ignore him. Sadly, this will follow Meyer's legacy and misconstrued. Just do not give them extra clicks.
Didn't click on the links, so I have no context or info on what people are saying.
My only point of reference is that he would not have been offered an Assistant AD or lecturer position if there was any hint of scandal. Given what happened in August, there is no way Gene or anyone in the college would risk career by offering this as a way to get him out of a coaching position.
Further, with all the snooping around the media the investigation team did last fall, someone would have uncovered this or mentioned it to ensure he was fired back then.
Haters gotta hate.
I love the headline for an ESPN article today, "Why It's Hard To Fully Celebrate Urban Meyer's Final Win," to which I reply,
You mean it's hard for the SEC boys at ESPN, because everybody in Columbus seems to be pretty happy? Actually, most of Buckeye Nation is celebrating extra hard precisely because the SEC/ESPN two-headed monster is so depressed that Meyer and Ohio State won yet again, so... thanks guys!
Oh, and thanks to the Playoff Committee, because Ohio State fans can subjectively proclaim a National Championship without even bothering to destroy any SEC teams.
Sure, the Committee, SEC or ESPN can disagree with that assessment, but here's the thing: We now know that your disagreement is nothing but an insubstantial and indisputably subjective opinion, which is backed by nothing at all, or worse, it's undermined by your disregard for your own guidelines from one year to the next, so...
The Committee's opinion, as well as that of ESPN, actually counts less than the average person. It's about as meaningful as the Playoffs have become, which is to say... not.
Oh, and by the way, how did your 5th ranked Georgia Bulldogs do against that 4-loss Texas?
To me it's all jealousy that these "people" want to discredit Urban. He lived a life, did a job they would die for, but have no idea what that life takes to have the success Urban achieved..Anyway..they figure they should try now to bash him to try and distort his legacy. You know, the more you say something, the more likely people are to believe it.
And there is no remedy. Don't agree that the media can present "opinions" not based on fact and portray their opinions as if factual..Look at the Duke lacrosse team. Really don't care if you are liberal or conservative....happens on both sides. Worst part is so many buy into it. And maybe worse is not many want to stand up for a man who is not without flaws but is very good and watch while the maggots eat away. And you are right if the DOPING occurred at OSU, the maggots would be on UFM and OSU like stink on manure.
Ahhhhhhhhhh....whew....I just had a huge Sh POrtnoy.
LMAO....Social Media and the Media is such a shit show today.....but in Clemson and Alabama we have NCAA suspensions and PED violations going on and nada.....
Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.
I saw Dennis Dodd throw in his two cents this morning also... Just one last pile on!
Sports journalists are the laziest. Most of the ex jocks are terrible. Not one media site or reporter made any effort to report the complete story this summer/fall. It was way more complicated than reported on national media. They based their entire stories on antidotal information and went with it because it easier than doing a good job. We are seeing that now again. Bad news sells more papers / more internet hits. There is a lot of negative information about every coach out there but who cares. Only the big names can bring in readers.
Urban wasn’t an angel, but no successful man is. I’d like to do an investigation on many of these reporters- but no one would care.
Just watch the long knives once Day wins his first national championship!
"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."
Poor desperate losers...last chance to rip Urban. They have never done anything as big as Urban has...they never will...
Pretty pathetic article, but not unexpected. I do agree that most sports journalism at a national level is pretty shoddy. When traveling around I notice that although even small city papers may do a reasonable job on local teams, they are generally pretty bad at national coverage. So once the narrative got set that Urban was covering up DV, the laziness of just repeating the allegations takes over. But the whole BM BS story on the racial angle was shot down by too many people who were witnesses so it never got any traction. But in general there are a lot more "opinion pieces" and pundits that are just trying to be outraged, on either the left or right, particularly on TV shows. I have been interviewed a lot for work and I find most reporters end up being pretty accurate.
Just got done reading a thread on MGoBlog about Urban and I must say it is absolutely hilarious. They act like he killed people. In reality (which obviously they and a lot of the media aren't aware of, or twist at the very least) he coached a team that had "bad kids" on it. Shocking... I know. He recruited and told recruits things...Shocking... All the rumors about him sleeping with coed's, lying to recruits, etc... Yet, somehow over the last 7 years of his career, parents and kids still wanted to be around him and the program he ran. Nothing definitive ever came out about "his past".. No admin's at UF or players came out against him anymore than any other coach..
All the really have is Zach Smith, who obviously lied to Urban and the Ohio St Athletic Dept multiple times and who had a toxic marriage. If you actually dig into it (unlike the McDouchy and the rest of the media who created the narrative) there wasn't much Urban knew outside of he liked to drink and go to strip clubs with other coaches (last time I checked, that's most "alpha" men).. Could he have fired him earlier? Sure but lets not act like some crazy ex wife didnt have an axe to grind, got it done then just disappeared for no reason.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
There's no one the media will attack more than someone who claims to have morality.
Exactly! It explains the MSM attacks on both Tressel and Meyer. Reporters simply can’t stand it that they are men who are successful and have moral authority at the same time. While I am sure that some media people are fine men and women, I personally don’t know that to be the case.
Ohio State and Florida just scored again.
MSN publishes a USA Today article that calls UFM a liar and immoral even today.
he is literally both of these
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