Interesting to see Dexter Lawrence front and center on the sidelines. Not sure about the other two players with dirty tests.
Its remarkable how downplayed this situation is.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it
Dabo thinks he’s a victim of the NCAA process, and couldn’t be happier that he’s there to support his teammates. He’s been given a full pass by Clemson.
Maybe with one player but three players testing dirty looks like lack of institutional control. You can bet they’d be beating that drum if the places were different and it was OSU.
I said this in another thread. There is no ‘accidental’ injestion at a program like Clemson. They have people that review any supplements/Rx any athlete puts in their body. There is a listing, NSF, that provides breakdowns of all supplements to ensure there are no trace items in there. They will not let you use non-NSF product.
Dabo knows exactly what happened. He's just acting like they're the victims. He's a turd, and the only people whose eyes he's pulled the wool over are turds too.
Ignorance isn't bliss for the rest of us.
It has been downplayed. He is still ineligible, though. Proof that the NCAA rules can be appropriately applied.
He is suspended for 1 year, pending any appeal.
He was gone after this season, anyway.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
A year? I hadn’t seen that. Interesting. Terrell Pryor had to serve his five game suspension in the NFL since he went pro. I wonder if the NFL takes the same approach with Lawrence and benches him for a year. Seems like PEDs are a bigger threat to the NFL rules than selling trinkets for market value.
I have never, in my life, wanted Notre Dame to win. The only time I want TTUN to win is when they play ND, and a absolutely hate ND for driving me to that decision. I’m actually picking Clemson to win this ACC CCG.
Nice to see ESPN cramming the plug for their ACC network by plugging ND, a de facto ACC team for a game for next November. And I live the analysts being caught on a hot mic saying “boy, I’m glad we got that in” before cutting away.
Cannot stand Dabo and Clemson, but I don't see ND keeping this close.
Can't stand both teams but I feel like dabo needs a beat down
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
Seattle Sounders 2019 MLS Champions
This game is going to get ugly for Notre Dame
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Somebody doesn't belong. I won't use any initials as that might give it away. But they rhyme with Notre shame.
Wonder if Clemson is gonna do any crotch grabbing today?
We’ve joked about this for years, but Curtis did have to come out after that play. They squeezed his balls to take him out, and it did. It affected the game.
Things that make me cringe
Takes your breath away a little bit, doesn’t it?
"Luck of the Irish"
Would love to get Clemson’s d coordinator at osu
The Oklahoma fans used to hate him. Called him Brett Vulnerables
Oklahoma people hate everyone
Had to share this one LOL
Clemson wins the toss and elects to take the PEDs.
— Kevin Noon (@Kevin_Noon) December 29, 2018
Gotta catch those.
I hate Clemson and Dabo but I can’t wait for Notre Dame to lose by 30.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Damn. Would have loved to see that sack.
I want Notre Dame exposed as the frauds they are
Is Trevor Lawrence Chase Winobitch's little sister?
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
Higgins was looking to push off
I think Florida just scored again.
How does a player suspended by the NCAA for a positive drug test sit with his team on the sidelines? LoL Dabo will be blaming hair gel all year.
Wondered the same thing.
That’s a great question
Silver Ostarine is a PED that ends up in OTC supplements all the time. Many athletes have been popped for it as a result and many companies (especially GNC) have been fined for it.
This is completely untrue. There is a huge reddit thread explaining why. This stuff is not in powders and supps at GNC. You have to go out of your way to use this stuff. The .02% found is really high amount in his system given the threshold. No way in hell you have that much in your system from some powder/gel/pill he didnt know about
You mean this one
It's like a player getting ejected for targeting being able to stay on the sidelines. Just part of the Dabo hypocrisy.
That’s a fumble
I bet people looked at Trevor Lawrence's dad and then his mom and thought, "Damn, that's going to hurt."
ND can’t finish on tackles and putting the ball all over the ground. Lucky to only be down 3
Two drives two fumbles.
And a dropped first down.
Can’t believe I’m rooting for ND.
I don't want ND to win it all--I'm rooting for Oklahoma--but I am tired of the Alabama-Clemson reign of terror.
Oklahoma beating ND is best case scenario. Also probably the least likely.
ND beating Oklahoma would be the least likely.
Gotta throw it beyond the sticks on 3rd, Kelly.
Bend don’t break D leads to a pair of FG’s.
Now keep the pressure on Lawrence. And get him on the ground.
Commercials are killing these big games.
Can that dude come back in and touch first?
Don’t think he can. But no one has said anything. Right call here. Tip of ball was out.
And the breaks always go the southern teams
‘His facial color is normal’
Lawrence has been late.
I wonder if she is pregnant
LOL! She’d have to cut it to short mom hair.
Not impressed with this chick playing Qb for Clemson.
I think it's a toss up which of these coaches is a bigger douchebag. Maybe a slight edge to Swinney.
ND getting pressure. I'm surprised.
Clemson seems confused playing an opponent with a pulse.
Screw this, the Bucks could beat both these teams.
I have watched Trevor Lawrence a couple times this year and have come away very unimpressed by him. I know he is a true freshman but he just doesn't jump out at me.
Never respect a Freshman QB who has played the weakest schedule in the country.
Stop the cap 2020
This Lawrence kid is not beating Bama.
Harbaugh is Michigan, Michigan is Harbaugh. They are together the ultimate con.
ND hanging tough.
I hate Dabo and Clemson so much I am rooting for Notre Dame. I feel so dirty.
"You win with people" — Woody Hayes
I'm just rooting for the team that has the most Ohio players on it.
Is Clemson a bag of turds or is ND playing lights-out?
Clemson played lukewarm air all season. Their ranking is a joke. ND is not playing lights out, with a lost fumble already.
Notre Dame is solid and Clemson is way overrated. Living on reputation and a horrendous ACC schedule. For some reason they don't get flack for being dominated by a 1-dimensional Alabama team last year.
Lawrence looks like a frosh today. Pressure will lead to a pick later, no doubt.
Rooting for the Domers, gross
Keep pressuring until he beats you. Then pressure him again.
After one quarter we're all tied up 3 - 3
Have no doubt osu has a better offense than either of these teams
Told a buddy of mine I had to come clean and admit I was rooting for Clemson. His response: “Fuck you”.
I'm all in on ND. Fuck Clemson.
Game going exactly as I thought. ND D is by far the best Clemson has faced. I expect a dog fight that ND could very well win. Clemson has not played anyone. Not that ND has, but Clemson being such a big favorite was strange to me. I had ND with the points as one of, if not the, best bet of all the bowls.
I didn’t understand EVERYONE acting like Notre Dame had no shot in this.
Because they don't really. They just don't have the players to compete. Clemson will win this game something like 45-10.
Clemson's defense looking not quite elite
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
Boykin gave up on that route
Took Clemson -9.5, find myself rooting for ND though
2x account suspension survivor
I will hold my nose and root for ND.
Watching these two teams, I cant but think how much better the Buckeyes are than either one.
I'd like to think so, but I don't know. OSU has looked iffy at best in every game since TCU, with the exception of Michigan, and they get beat like a rented mule by any decent team.
Okay, they would've kicked the crap out of Notre Dame.
That was nice play by Simmons.
I wonder how many Notre Dame players have had a finger or two in their butt so far.
Haskins would have carved Clemson's defense up.
This feels like one of those games where Clemson is going to keep pounding and pounding and pounding, and pull away slowly, then rapidly towards the end.
Like 16-3 at half, 30-10 at the end of the 3rd, 51-17 final
I get that same feeling.
If Higgins had caught that, I could see 23-3 at the half. Still plenty of time for Clemson to score twice.
+1 for prophetic accuracy so far
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
Notre Dame physically can’t handle Clemson.
I’ve said there are only 4-5 programs who have the quality depth, coaching, culture, etc. to win this tournament period, and only 1-2 programs in any given year. We’re a quarter into a two game tournament and the announcers are a,ready saying in ppl one ND defender goes down, it severely impacts their defense. This is my argument against expansion.
Crazy thing is that Clemson is not all that deep either. They have had some really small recruiting classes. They just have an uncanny ability to not have any busts among their top guys.
Alabama, Clemson, OSU, maybe Oklahoma, maybe Georgia once they learn how to win. There is no other program out there that is capable of winning the Tournament in any given year. Those are the only programs built to win it.
Except that at least one of the teams not in is deeper.
The current system rewards undefeated teams, which isn’t supposed to be the point when selecting the four best. It’s broken.
Notre Dame dropping like flies
What's higher number in this game gonna be..
ND points scored or ND players injured?
This game sucks. Is there a way both teams lose? Cant stand clemsum and I'm not catholic.
God > Family > Buckeyes football
The winner of this will be 17 pt dogs in the next one, and I'd take Bama/OU-17 still
Drive home safely Irish fans
Just another pathetic ACC team Clemson is playing. Kelley's face is now under RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT! Cover your ears in the locker room good little Catholic boys cause Kelley about to say some things that might hewt your wittle feewings. Lmao
Night night Irish see you again in a decade.
#11 is bad in coverage.
TD and goodnight Irish.
My schedule cleared up.
Fortune favors the bold.
As much as I hate Clemson, I hope they kill ND just like an Auburn-Pur’don’t beatdown. Want the committee to think twice in the future before letting No-conference-tre Dame into the CFP.
I thought ND would be better. I just turned it on to see 16-3 with 2 big plays for scores. Then the roughing call, and bobbled TD. Nice catch by the way.
When is the last time Notre Dame won a significant bowl game over a significant opponent?
God what a waste for them to make the playoffs
The Bush Push ga-
Oh wait they lost that one too.
Looks like 1994 Cotton Bowl. Beat 10-1 Texas A&M.
And this is why people think the real mistake in the playoffs was Notre Dame. If they just joined the ACC this beatdown could have happened during the year instead of taking up a spot in the playoffs. Ridiculous
What a bunch of bums. ND doesn't belong. Time to find a good movie to watch
Turn out the lights....the party's over..
Notre Dame blows... Atleast this will prevent them from getting in in the future. Hopefully....
This will be a huge blow to ND’s chances going forward. Being undefeated shouldn’t be an automatic invitation, and without a CCG, people will always question whether they’re any good. If they choose to stay independent, I think they’ll still get in every fourth or fifth year, primarily due to their fan base. But I think the pressure will be ratcheted up to get them to join the ACC. This game is huge for their future.
Everyone except the committee knew that ND didn't belong, they just continue to get preferential treatment. They need to be treated like UCF. Win a power 5 conference to have a chance at the playoffs.
I think you can call it. Clemson wins the ACC conference championship and advances to the ESPN tournament championship game.
Everyone saw this coming except the playoff committee. Awsome job guys!
Clemson seems to be winning their bye week handily
Tired of Notre Dame and then getting a benefit of doubt because of their century old traditions. Haven’t beaten anyone with a pulse in decades
My in-laws are die hard Domer fans. I love them (in-laws) to death. But before the game and before their flight back, I told them to their faces that I wished nothing but utter distruction for their team tonight.
Committee: We put georgia ahead of osu because losses dont matter
Also committee: ND over osu because theyre undefeated
Committee: We'll do whatever we want, and no backtalking!
Quantifiable metric use and the commitees decisions don’t mix.
Sorry, ND still equals No Defense.....
Wait, not sorry
Notre Dame is SO overrated.
ND had no business being in the playoffs. Unless something widely unexpected happens after intermission, this beating should continue. Until these bastards play in a CCG, ND should never be in the discussion for any college football playoff.
My little brother's in a Twitter fight with Shannon Sharpe right now over whether Ohio State should have been in over Notre Dame. Sharpe apparently believes that Haskins had a sub 200 yard game vs Purdue...
Really? He must be a lock for a spot on ESPN’s Committee.
Seen enough. I doubt the other game will be more interesting, because Oklahoma is basically defenseless. Think about it, Clemson got matched up against a team with a very pedestrian offense, and Alabama will play against a non-existent defense. Congratulations to the all-knowing committee members.
The game you should of seen in early December.
The CFP process of "picking" teams needs to be revised. I'll leave it at that.
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
Hence the 8 team playoff with 5 Auto bids for champs...that takes the human element right out
Those who stir the shit pot should have to lick the spoon.
Notre Dame is proving everyone wrong who picked them to lose by only 2 TDs
I have a feeling Notre Dame is going to make a game of this. Of course, it may be the spicy dip I ate too.
"Most Noahs have two of everything, he's got four tonight" - Gus Johnson on Noah Brown's 4 TD catches against Oklahoma.
Once again, ND is a fraud. Playing somebody with a pulse and getting shellacked.
What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.
With essentially a bye week while other teams were playing the CCG and this is the best product Notre Dame could put on the field. They knew exactly where they were going to be seeded and baring a huge upset who they were going to be play...what a joke. Hopefully Oklahoma can pull out a win but I doubt it and I will have to read about it in the morning as I am sure there will be something better to watch while that game is on. I have no desire to watch another Alabama v Clemson game again.
Same here. As far as I'm concerned, the College football season is over at the end of the Rose Bowl.
Boy, am I surprised with how this game is going.
Domers are such a joke.
Plain and simple, overrated.
This guy beat out Wimbush?
ND finally plays a decent team and gets destroyed. Who would have thought...
Was pulling for them early. Now hope Clemson puts up 3 more TDs.
This is the definition of a “deserving” team getting in over one of the “best” teams.
Notre Dame's best win was by one touchdown at home against a team that just got blown out by Florida and allowed 104 points in its last two games. No one should be surprised that they're getting exposed.
So is Clemson now officially ACC Champions? This should have been settled four weeks ago. SMH
This game should have occurred weeks ago with the winner advancing to the CFP to play OSU or OU.
Bad call but Dabo is still a tool
These semifinal games have been mostly bad in the five years of the playoffs. Blow out central. Last years Georgia vs Oklahoma game and OSU vs Alabama have been the only two semifinal games that were close. The way college football ends it’s season is a total dud. I’d almost prefer the old pre BCS bowl games anymore. Alabama and Clemson have turned it blah. Pointless. Not good for the overall health of the game. Other sports peak in their playoffs yet college football comes to halt after the last game of the season.
Glad to see the top 4 teams got in :)
I don't like ND, nor do I think they are a great team, yet history from 2 years ago makes me believe we are probably the last fanbase to be the ones to criticize embarrassing losses to Clemson in the National Semifinal.
Agree. Well said. Two years ago this weekend, this same Clemson team took our Buckeyes to the woodshed 31-0. And we r the ones throwing shade at a team “that the committee gave the benefit of the doubt. “.
Lol. Glass house....meet sharp stone.
I don't recall any other teams that were better in 2016, though.
Penn State beat us and won the Big 10. They had 2 losses to our 1 so we got in based on that and a tough schedule. ND has 0 losses to our 1 horrific loss. There were many people who thought PSU should have been in that year over us (I disagree with that).
Yep, PSU lost to Pitt. I’ve been “fine” with Iowa and Purdue losses keeping us out, so I remain consistent when I say PSU deserved to be left out due to that loss despite winning the B1G but with more losses on their resume. Plus, that (conference) division was stacked that year, which helped us (as it should have imo).
But the ND shade throwing isn’t because they merely got beat down necessarily, it’s because they got in without even playing in a conference. They aren’t special, nor have they been truly relevant in decades. So, they should have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
From our point of view, no. But I am quite sure It was not a unanimous opinion.
Notre Dame needs to fire some coaches, starting with whoever's in charge of strength and conditioning. Every other play a Notre Dame player is down injured. There's bad luck and then there's bad preparation, we're seeing the latter.
They were 12-1, Miami, and made the playoffs. No. They aren’t firing anyone.
Join a conference, you ass belonkers.
The real question is will this finally put the deserved final nail in the coffin of allowing Notre Dame access to the playoffs without having to play in a conference. Since the BCS started through the CFP they have gotten in twice and got destroyed twice. Yeah the Buckeyes have had some bad games but they have also won it twice.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
1. We are better and would have done better than ND.
2. I would rather lose a playoff game, even badly, than play in another bowl.
3. Clemson cheats and I'm kinda salty about it.
Clemson's DLIne reminds me of the Gators DLine that destroyed the Buckeyes. NFL strength players everywhere.
Vegas is smiling as ND money taking the points proved foolish.
Clemson's DLIne reminds me of the Gators DLine that destroyed the Buckeyes. NFL strength players everywhere.
Clemson's DLIne reminds me of the Gators DLine that destroyed the Buckeyes. NFLPED strength players everywhere.
I'd like to focus on the fact Georgia was very much in the conversation and even ranked ahead of Ohio State. As concerning as Notre Dames lack of a conference championship game is, Ohio State being an after thought is the biggest, dare I say corrupt, slap in the face.
1 loss, even to Purdue by 29, is better than 2 losses especially based on how we won against TTUN.
If this is what we can expect going forward, then I'd be cool teaming up with the P12 and B12 to form our own playoff. Whacky and absurd? Yes. I'm just so furious with the narrative.
Im willing to bet that a few years down the line, we see a 30for30 type of documentary on how closed door meetings between people with no clear criteria was ever a good idea. It just defies fairness and logic.
"NFL PED strength players everywhere." FIFY.
Unnamed sources are reporting at least 6 Notre Lame players allegedly have been fingered in the butt. Possible sexual assault charges pending.
Stage is set for Kelly to retire after next year and Urban to take over the program in 2020...
Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.
Must be nice to be Clemson. Cruise through the weak ACC and get a layup in the playoff.
Good to see Jackson Carman out there. And by good, I mean, Clemson got themselves a fat, slow, and lazy left tackle. It's a nice... It's irony.
Refuse to watch any of the CFP. Not interested. Not after this circle jerk. Notre Lame in. 2 loss SEC runner-up ahead of OSU.
Following the scores on CBS Sports and Fox Sprts1 online.
I didn't bother watching either, just checked the score to confirm what everyone already knew was going to happen. What a joke.
Californian by birth, South Carolinian by the grace of God, Buckeye for life.
How did *ichigan escape with only the 2nd most embarrassing loss of the day??
Thread title should be "ACC CG at the Cotton Bowl"
My wife wanted to watch a Hallmark movie during the ND/Clem game. I said lets see how this game goes. Shortly after I am watching Hallmark.
I just "checked in " to the Bama/OU game during a commercial. Bama up 14-0. Back on the Hallmark channel for the evening.
No, I will not watch one second of the Bama/Clemson III Bowl. One game left to watch,the Rose Bowl.
Bitterly disappointed with the season except for The Game. At least we have that.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Unsurprised at CFP outcome so far. ND should not have been included. Period.
Go Bucks! TTUN tears are best! Beat Wisky!!!