This Week's Question: Which Unheralded Recruit Went On to Have the Best Ohio State Career?

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

Terry Glenn

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

MercyTex's picture

Agreed. The competition is for second place.  May he rest in peace.

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buckbornbred's picture

Easy choice, though he would have received a scholarship out of high school had his grades been in order.
 

SoulPatrol32's picture

James Laurinaitis was a beast plain and simple. Butkus, Lott, Nagurski winner and a 3X All American. Loved watching him play LB. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

jcaseyii's picture

I've got to agree with Laurinaitis. 

buckbornbred's picture

Arguably the most overrated player in the history of the program.

RBurgundy4's picture

You serious, Clark? Or was that an autocorrect?

linepilot15's picture

Well, you sure should get your argument

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bedheadjc's picture

Maybe not the most but I agree. He struggled mightily with the one prime requirement of linebacker play: stuffing running backs in the hole. 

Of course he’d look like a Hall of Famer in this regard compared to many of the LBs we’ve had here the last  10-12years. And yes I’m aware the game has changed.

Zonabuck's picture

Zach Boren. He was a very good FB, but his switch to MLB in the middle of the 2012 season was the key to the undefeated season, and Urban going 1-0 against TTUN. He might not have been the most athletic, but his instincts and desire made him the leader we sorely lacked. 

GoBucks10's picture

That hair, though

There's no points for second place, gentlemen.

gumtape's picture

Mangold needs to play Wandering Oaken for when they eventually do a live action Frozen. You know it's happening.

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KateUptonsLowerBack

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stxbuck's picture

They didn't even get his HS correct-shows how much they actually paid attention to him. Also, he is listed as the class of 02'-correct-but apparently didn't commit until AFTER he played in the NC game against Miami. If a HS player could do that, I'd think he would rank higher than 3 stars...............

LCT's picture

Craig Krenzel

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jpfbucks01's picture

Not sure what his ranking was but Krenzel was a USA Today Honorable mention All American as a SR in HS

LCT's picture

This surprises me greatly.

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buckbornbred's picture

Loves

Craig Krenzel's

Tenure

LCT's picture

Well who the hell wouldn't?

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AJ Hawk 

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ScarletnGreyTexan's picture

I was just about to type AJ Hawk. Dude was praying he got an offer from tOSU during summer camp because he said if he didn't he knew they wouldn't offer him later because he wasn't on the radar. Ended up being one of the many storied LB's that went thru here. I have only purchased one tOSU jersey in my life and it is his. 

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

I named my youngest son after AJ Hawk.

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

thunderhawks51's picture

AJ Hawk and Pat Elflein. 247 has Hawk ranked in the 500's and Elflein in the 900's nationally. Both home grown and ended up highly decorated.

Genghis Buckeye's picture

My first thought was Terry Glenn.

But there are so many: Hawk, Mangold, Gamble, Jenkins, etc. etc. etc.

JT Barrett felt like a bit of a throw in at the time. 

faux_maestro's picture

JT Barrett was either the #1 or #2 dual threat QB before he tore his ACL his senior year in HS. He was already committed before the injury.

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stxbuck's picture

Nick Mangold was heavily recruited by Clemson and ND amongst others, but shut his recruitment down very early. If he had chosen to go to more camps and what not, he probably could have gone almost anywhere he wanted. ND actually recruited him as a DL.

infantrybuck's picture

Back in those days, I only paid attention to ESPN rankings for some reason and I they had him ranked very high as I recall.

RBurgundy4's picture

D Lee was the first that popped into my head. There are already several really good candidates posted. T Glenn is a great choice, Laurainitis, too.
Oh how I wish we had a LB like that this year (or last, for that matter).

stxbuck's picture

Malik Hooker. Best FS ever at tOSU. Jack Tatum was a SS.

Pat Elflein  local 3 star, AA, 3rd round pick

I laugh when anyone describes AJ Hawk as "unheralded". Dude was D-1 1st team all State 3 years in a row in HS and was pretty much recognized as a once in a generation player at Centerville.

RBurgundy4's picture

Only one season from Hooker still bugs the shit out of me, as will Haskins in a few weeks, in all likelihood.

LCT's picture

One season from Haskins is a tragedy

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RBurgundy4's picture

It hasn't even officially happened yet and I'm not sure I'll ever get over it, if that makes sense. Tragic, indeed.

ScarletnGreyTexan's picture

Then you need to go listen to AJ talk about his recruitment. By his own words he wasn't a big catch on anyones radar. He didn't think tOSU would offer him. We were the only place he wanted to go to as well.  

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stxbuck's picture

He was offered by Penn State and MSU, amongst others. All I am saying is that his talent was recognized locally. In the Miami valley he was recognized as being on the same talent level as Nick Mangold, Braxton Miller, Javon Ringer, Blue Smith, Josh Meyers-not your average D-1 signee.

cdub4's picture

https://247sports.com/Player/AJ-Hawk-52143/

24th ranked player in Ohio in his class. 543rd overall. Safe to say he outplayed his composite recruiting ranking IMO.

stxbuck's picture

Well, whomever saw the game tapes of the 23 players ahead of him to do rankings must have been higher than Josh Gordon in Denver.

cdub4's picture

That actually was a fairly deep Ohio class. D'Andrea had injuries, Zwick was overrated..Clarett was a good player, Troy Smith won a Heisman trophy, Carpenter was a 1st pick and Mangold had a long NFL career. These are some of the 23 players rated higher than Hawk in the 2002 Ohio class.

rkylet83's picture

Jenkins was a pretty low rated guy and was one of the best DB’s we ever had.  

analyticalguy's picture

A couple people beat me to mentioning Elflein.  Darron Lee pretty much flew under the radar as well.

LCT's picture

Darron Lee is a great call. HS QB IIRC. A Fickell diamond.

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Rocket Man's picture

I always thought Troy Smith was fairly lightly recruited, at least he was much less heralded than Justin Zwick in the same class.  He turned out really good.

But when I look back at the recruiting rankings he's listed as a four star, so I guess I was wrong.

 Success - it's what you do with what you've got.  - Woody Hayes

LCT's picture

Don't be fooled by that. Smith's other offers when he committed were from Toledo and West Virginia; he was a late look by Tress as a favor to Ted Ginn Sr. I think Smith as a 4* is some post-Heisman chicanery by the recruiting gurus as a means of self-preservation.

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2014/10/the_inside_story_of_how_troy_s.html

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gumtape's picture

I wish I could upvote this. He was seriously a 2.5 star "athlete" late addition who ended up winning the heisman.

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LCT's picture

But in 2001, Ginn was trying to sell his old friend on a new quarterback, making a pitch to a coach readying for his first Big Ten season.

"He would trust what I was telling him, but did he believe it? Probably not," Ginn said in a recent interview during a Glenville practice.

If not a quarterback, Ginn at least was trying to sell Tressel on Smith as a player who could eventually become a quarterback. He told Tressel that Smith's arm got stronger as the game went on.

"I said, 'Tress, you just need to look at him,' " Ginn said.

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colo_buckeye's picture

Agreed, would have loved to see him go out with the Natty.

Wonder why voting was turned off.  Same dude (troll) that tells us this morning to root for ttun, "cough", Mr. Regimbal. 

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Zonabuck's picture

Troy Smith was an Elite 11 finalist and won one of the awards there. If he was lightly recruited, it likely would’ve had more to do with why he was kicked out of St Ed’s and ended up at Glenville in the first place. 

cdub4's picture

Troy Smith was not some under the radar recruit. His biggest issues in regards to recruiting is that he wanted to play QB, and he got kicked out of St. Edward. But he was a 4 star recruit.

Rocket Man's picture

I did notice that he had a very, very short offer list.  I thought I remembered hearing he was the lowest rated guy in the class (at the time of his signing).

 Success - it's what you do with what you've got.  - Woody Hayes

ChazBuckeye's picture

This year's class has a few 3* kids that are going to light it up on special teams. Marcus Crowley, Craig Young and Jaden McKenzie are supremely underrated for what you can obviously see on their films. Especially Crowley....he'll be on special teams for sure.

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stxbuck's picture

Before my time, but I don't think Archie Griffin was considered a huge recruit when he signed at tOSU, at least in regards to his spectacular success. Same with Eddie George.

analyticalguy's picture

I believe that Brian Baschnagel, a prized recruit out of Pennsylvania in the same class, was considered the better prospect in the backfield. He certainly was a good contributor on those teams, but... you know, Archie Griffin.

mizzer's picture

Fun fact: Penn State recruited Eddie George as a linebacker.

swflbuckeye1's picture

Michael Thomas. 3* recruit and The sky is the limit. I see him being the #1 WR in the NFL in the next few years. 

cpewster's picture

John Simon. He was a 4* but he was a monster at OSU.

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Rico411's picture

Hawk and Mangold

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TLeeUpInThisJ's picture

I agree with those that brought up Hawk, Elflein, and Hooker. These are the top 3 that came to mind. Santonio Holmes was more well known than these three but was a 3 star guy that flourished for OSU to become a 1st round pick, successful NFL WR, and Super Bowl MVP. He definitely outperformed recruiting expectations by a ton.

Also, Cardale Jones won a national title QBing the Buckeyes during perhaps their best 3 game stretch in program history. He QB’ed a really good Glenvillle team in HS but I don’t remember him being highly recruited.

buckeye_in_WI's picture

I agree with the names already listed here. Thought I'd throw a few more names out there:

Hankins and Roby were in the same class. Hankins was ranked 324 Roby 650.

Kenny Guiton barely slid into the top 1000.

Malcolm Jenkins was ranked 667th and ended up being a 1st round pick. From same class, Hartline was a 3* and continues to produce for tOSU today.

buckeyearchie76's picture

My first choice is without doubt A J Hawk.  He was the last guy added to his recruitment class and that was after the class was completed when one of the recruits backed out for whatever reason.  But, I am going to throw out another name as well.  Now please don't judge my name on his coaching career because it did not end well for him.  That guy was Bo Pellini.  I think he was a walk on as well.  But, he was one tough SOB as a linebacker.  He was small for the position.  But, he flat out would knock your freaking head off if you were in his area,  GO BUCKS!

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Rocket Man's picture

Noted cat fancier too :)

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GunnerBuck's picture

In the Urban Era? Easily Hooker or Lee with Olave having an opportunity to take over and Thayer Munford (seems like he's being overlooked) as well. Cant forget Pat Elf either. Dude was the lowest ranked recruit we've ever taken. 

Tress? Baby Animal and/or AJ Hawk

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AnddJohn's picture

My choices are Roby or Lee.

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Deacon's picture

Since Terry Glenn and a few others have been mentioned, does anybody know where Antoine Winfield was rated coming in in 1995? 

An amazingly good DB who, at 5'9" probably wasn't rated that high. 

Citybuck's picture

I'll have to go with the walk on Terry Glenn... the former Brookhaven star who played his football in the Columbus City League North.

scarletgray's picture

Joseph Thomas Barrett. Mic drop

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Malik Hooker should be WAY up there. I dont think anyone outside the WHAC saw his 2016 season coming.

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wigmon's picture

Hawk was my first thought and didn't think it was even  close.  There are some other good considerations.  I still believe its Hawk not just for how low he was ranked, but for how dominant a college linebacker he was  for his entire 4 year college career.  Glenn was even less recruited, but barely saw the field his first 2 years and had one amazing year.

RunEddieRun1983's picture

If we'd gotten more than one year of top level Malik Hooker in Columbus he'd be my pick.

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BigTom's picture

Terry glenn... more recenly hooker or lee.

and just to clear the air regarding some names in the thread.

nick mangold was the starting center in the army all american game.  There have subsequently been some db errors regarding him that dont truly reflect his worth at the time.

troy smith was invited to elite 11 qb camp.  He was a known entity, off field issues scared teams away

aj hawk was pretty much regarded by every service as THE player in his class that was severly under ranked.  Not sure why nobody ever bumped him, maybe he didnt do the camps.  But every service had him as the darkhorse of the class.  But he certainly outperformed his rank by a ton.

for those reasons, terry glenn is the easy choice for me.