Sounds great in theory, but I just can't root for those guys. Sorry. I'll take last year's outcome again though. Go everybody else!
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
I usually want to see a good game but see them lose. And then when they start to lose, I want to see them get completely embarrassed. I can’t help it.
I forget if it was the Wednesday or Sunday radio show but Jason and Joshua Perry took some fantastic calls on this a couple weeks ago. They caught a ton of flack for saying they'd root for TTUN
A logical Ohio State fan will root for Michigan and every other B1G team during bowl season. If not, you are not an Ohio State fan, just a Michigan hater. That’s just plain logic
Rooting for or against or not rooting at all will NOT change the outcome of the contests. Will it? So why bother wondering about rooting for other teams?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Yeah, well logic disappeared during the Cooper years. Guess I'm illogical. Still happy with my decision. Dont hate them, just always hope they lose. Always.
Just plain logic showed that 7-1 last season meant absolutely nothing this season. Screw michigan. I can love Ohio State and hate michigan at the same time.......been perfecting that for quite a few decades as a matter of fact.
The pain of discipline or the pain of regret, take your pick
I'm a Buckeye fan to the core and I will never root for ttun unless a playoff spot for us is somehow involved.
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
If not, you are not an Ohio State fan, just a Michigan hater.
Real Ohio State fans don't question someone else's fandom when they don't root for Michigan. But judging by your willingness to throw others under the bus, you're not a real fan anyway
Shandy is not beer
At first I laughed at the absurdity of your comment but then after pondering on it, your comment is just plain nuts. Oh what would Woody say?
BigBuckeye says Go Bucks
Yeah... not gonna do it.
Class of 2001 - classless since then.
8 and 1 sounds good to me, as long as the 1 is the right one.
Fug that! I could never root for Fichigan! Even if Fishigan were to win that game, they are already favored anyway and it’s not like suddenly everyone is gonna be like “Oh wow! Fichigan just beat Florida! We were wrong about the B1G this whole time!” SEC favoritism and perception are not going anywhere. Especially with Bama destroying everything in their path. Take out Bama, and the SEC is the third or fourth best Power Five. I’ll continue to root to see TUN fail and fail hard, regardless of conference perception. OSU would have been in there competing against the big boys two years in a row if they didn’t crap the bed against IA and Purdue. I’m not worried about perception of a conference. We just need to stop dropping games badly against mediocre teams.
Florida is not exactly an offensive juggernaut, but Shitigan is playing without Gary and Bush, so a win is not a guarantee.
I loose sleep over those loses too. Piss me off! No excuses either.
"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015. Needs no explanation.
Fuck Michigan, forever.
Rill, you always have such a way with words. +1 for you sir
Disagree. This sounds stupid in theory. One Michigan W won't change anything. I'll cheer for all the other teams.
11w is better than this crap.
The only way I'd ever root for TTUN is if they were playing ISIS.
"Be a first rate version of yourself, not a second rate version of someone else." - Judy Garland
I'd root for both defenses... ISIS is ISIS and Meat Chicken = Satan... Tough choice there
Canadian. I actually LOL’d
Sounds great in theory, but I just can't root for those guys.
You don't have to root for TTUN to win. But you can root for the SEC (Florida) to lose.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
If there was a way they could both lose, that would be super-cool. ;)
The B1G went 7-1 in bowls last season. It did ZERO to help the situation. I say the OP is wrong.
OP is talking out of his ass.
Last year did nothing to change the perception of the conference. People just said "of course you should win them all, you have higher seeds in each game because you're not in the playoff" and to some extent they're right. Literally nothing is going to change EShitPN's view on the B1G, so there's no reason to root for TTUN. 8-1 this year would be perfect to me. Fuck *ichigan.
It did change the perception, then weeks 2 and especially 3 of the season happened this year. The Big couldn't beat Group of 5 teams; the SEC went out and beat Power 5s. Perception wrecked and rightfully so.
You make great points. But if the B1G does well it will prove that one weekend doesn’t define a league.
OHIO STATE FANS SHOULD ROOT FOR EVERY BIG TEN TEAM THIS BOWL SEASON, INCLUDING THAT TEAM UP NORTH
Nope. Never, ever, under any circumstance will I hope that *ichigan wins. Never.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Personally I care more about the SEC losing.
I'm indifferent about TTUN in a bowl game because we already beat the snot out of them. Our work is done.
So will I root for TTUN? No. I won't root for anyone but OSU. Do I want the B1G to win out in all the bowl games? Yes.
Nope. Not Michigan. Never.
Agreed. Cheering for your rival does not compute, unless you’re a mouth breathing SEC fan who becomes a Bama fan every bowl season.
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Exactly, and as we all know, what do Fichigan and SEC fans have in common?
They can all go fug themselves.
Not even once.
OSU Class of 1999
I hope all big 10 teams win, except ttun. I hope ttun loses 61 to 40.
Can't root for Michigan
We won the national title (and made the playoff) when Michigan was hot garbage and completely irrelevant. We don’t need them to be good. We just need to keep getting the recruits and stop losing to bad West teams by 4 TD’s.
This ends the argument. So much this.
root for scum? you are a fool.
Pretty certain I want Michigan to lose by a thousand points vs Florida.
Actually I would like Tennessee to replace Florida in the Peach Bowl and only Tennessee walk-ons are allowed to play then those walk-ons beat Michigan by two thousand points.
I saw Ryan Day hang 62 on Michigan...His hair was perfect.
Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan
^^^^^ This! (rolling laughing)
This would be like a Christmas miracle. Oh how I want this now
When in doubt... Muck Fichigan
What would be awesome is everyone win and our rival lose on a controversial play / penalty
their fan base meltdown would be delicious
Life long fan of... The!
yes - they lose 2-0 on a questionable safety call in OT, the result of a questionable spot, that was reviewed by the booth and the call was absolutely blown, before a crowd of about 5,000 and the lowest rated televised bowl game in history and in the post game interview, harbaugh says he's accepted the Jets job and in a statement 5 minutes later, the Jets say they don't know what he is talking about.
I'm so turned on right now.
"The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes." - EACommunityTeam
Please let it be a “bad spot.”
"Defiance in Silence"
How many times will he get to re-live that spot? Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only an idiot would root for ttun, or someone on drugs.
Friends don’t let friends do drugs. Just don’t do it!
Meh I really don't think bowl wins in the previous season helps sway the perception very much. I recognize bias exists, but did you ever hear the national media bring up last year's bowl results once during the playoff discussion? I just don't think it carries much weight.
I also firmly believe had Oklahoma had 2 losses and the committee was picking between OSU and Georgia for the 4th spot they would have picked OSU. And even if they would have picked UGA like they have insinuated, you can thank a 29 point loss to a 6-6 team, not the conferences prestige. You make that loss a 7 point loss instead, and you have a guarantee to get in over UGA and maybe even OU.
Way more important than bowl wins is having teams with only 1-3 losses in the resume at the end of the season. When you have a bunch of teams beating up on each other with somewhere between 5-8 wins it has shown to not carry much weight
And here come a bunch of fans saying "I can't root for TTUN. I hope they lose every game". These are probably the same people that think the rose bowl is meaningful. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is a new era in college football and at Ohio State the standard is to be among the best in the nation. It's playoff or bust every year. Do we need Michigan to be a top ranked team every year to make the playoff? No, but it certainly helps. If the Big Ten has a good perception subjectively then the Big Ten will be in better position with a subjective committee. This article is spot on. I hope the Big Ten goes 9-0 this year and that means a win for TTUN.
Also, not losing to unranked teams by 30 points helps too.
Did you watch our games against UM in the 1990s? If not then you can’t understand why some people can never root for them to succeed.
I do understand this now that you bring it up. By the time I was old enough to understand what was going on it was in john coopers last couple seasons. So i didnt feel that pain but it makes sense. However, it still doesn't change my stance. We need the big ten to be good in order to make the playoff and that includes TTUN. Otherwise we would be UCF.
I lived through it up close, was attending tOSU in the 90's. Very painful.
What made it the most painful? Those were some really, really good Ohio State teams that lost.
I want scUM flying high and on the national radar all the time. And then I want to smash them back down to size. So count me in the group that wants them to win every other game. The farther the fall, the more it hurts. That's true hate.
The farther the fall, the more it hurts. That's true hate.
So true. Their tears are more delicious.
Wow, pro-michigan AND Ohio State bashing. AND saying the Rose Bowl is meaningless. The trifecta of ignorance!
Hard to take you seriously, guy.
I bleed scarlet...literally
I wouldn't call myself pro-michigan by any means. I'm just stating the fact that Ohio State NEEDS to play quality opponents in order to make the playoff. Michigan just happens to be one of those. The perception of the Big Ten is what it is because of the top of the conference has been relatively down. I know everyone with their scarlet and gray glasses wants michigan to suck but the fact is that michigan is a traditional power in the Big Ten. Fact. Until programs like Nebraska, Wisconsin, Mich St, Penn St, and yes... even michigan get their heads out of their asses and consistently win their bowl games and non conference schedules, the Big Ten will continue to be behind the CFP race.
As for Ohio State bashing. Where did you get that?
And about the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl is no longer the "Grand daddy of them all". It is not 1978. I shouldn't say it's completely meaningless however because for a team like Northwestern the Rose Bowl would have been a huge accomplishment. Ohio State is not Northwestern though. To put it in perspective, if Ohio State did make the playoff this year then michigan would have been in the Rose Bowl. Do you really think michigan fans would be celebrating about a Rose Bowl appearance after this season. Hell no! A loss to their rival and playoff hopes flushed down the toilet. I guarantee you they would still be complaining over there at mgo.
The reason why we are one of the most hated fan bases is because of people that have their scarlet and gray glasses on so tight they can't see things for what they really are just like you sir. It's hard to take you seriously, jr.
The point is BDG: except for the Ohio State-Michigan game, what happens to TTUN is out of our control. I'd like a repeat of last year. And I didn't DV you. ;) Everybody has a right to their opinion.
"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."
I really couldn't care less about DV's. I knew my opinion wouldn't be the popular one. Beating TTUN when they have hope is so much more satisfying to me. Plus it gives us a quality win. Win-Win in my book.
DV d because it was 29 points not 30. Sounds like espin spinning the bias. LOL! just funnin'.
I’ll cheer for TTUN the same time you pull my 1911 from my fingers.
I'll echo those comments, as I put a death grip on my Colt .45.
Can I join in with the AR-15 snugged in my arms and the snub-nose 32 special on my hip?
If you let the Commies take you when you have Stoner's 2nd fines available....
And if they somehow get past me, then there's still the nissus with her cute little 9mm Browning High Power Mark III with 2 magazines loaded full of hollow points.
Now I know why I love this site so much. Merry Christmas everyone.
Evidently, someone doesn't like guns.
The Big 10(14). Perception? Reality? Somewhere in between?
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
I disagree. Big Ten went 7-1 last year and it doesn't mean a thing. Why would I want our enemies to win, ever? If a recruit is looking at top Big Ten schools, why give our opponent a win? I'd rather say look at our record in bowl games. We are #1 in the league. Come play for us. And the SEC is better than the Big Ten. Look at how many players are in the NFL from the SEC vs the Big Ten or any other conference. It's not even close. Ohio State plays SEC style and can play with and beat SEC teams. No one else in the Big Ten can, at least not consistently. We should be in the playoffs, but we should have beat Purdue. We didn't and we're not. Regardless of the big tens record in bowl games.
Coattailing what you said, I saw a break down of best win percentage by conference over the last four-five years and no one conference had won the bowl percentage title twice in that span. B1G had it last year, SEC and ACC each had one, and get this, CONFERNCE USA won it one year! Feel free to root for or against whoever you want. Bowl season doesn’t do jack squat to change perception of best Conference.
What is SEC style?
SEC style is a line of bullshit the media uses.
This is a very bad take and you should feel bad that you wrote a whole article on it. I hope Michigan loses by 50.
I am so tired of seeing Kirk hugging those SEC nuts. Objectively speaking...blah blah blah. The rules for selection are clear and they were not in Georgia's favor for them being placed ahead of Ohio State.
Not sure why Herbie gives everyone a complex. He flat out said they wouldn't be considered in the most deserving 4 but possibly best 4. Maybe he's wrong, maybe he's not but he gets paid to talk about it. I mean, I don't have to look very far back on 11W when 70% of our fans were saying they didn't want the playoffs because we would get embarrassed. I was definitely not among that group because I know how dangerous our talent could be when they came together. Take Ohio State out of the equation and think of it this way, ND is undefeated making them deserving from a numbers standpoint but,IMO, nowhere near the best 4. I would take Georgia over ND any day of the week. I guess my point is, what Herbie said is not absurd.
If scUM loses, they’ll get a pass from the media due to three starters sitting out. But screw them! May they lose by 40!
Folks sitting out is part of what makes a team losers.
OHIO STATE FANS SHOULD ROOT FOR EVERY BIG TEN TEAM THIS BOWL SEASON, INCLUDING THAT TEAM UP NORTH
If you continue to think what you always thought, you will continue to get what you always got. #AlumforStaff
Nope. I will NOT root for ttun.
Sorry, not sorry.
You can [have a Merry Christmas free of commenting on 11W].
Upvote only for the Mod edit!!!
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the league has a huge opportunity to build on the momentum they gained last bowl season.
I agree with everything you're saying, David.
But, here's the but..
But, it doesn't matter. You would have thought that going 7-1 in bowl games last year mattered to the conference perception this year. But, it doesn't. The committee told us this week in and week out when they under-valued teams from the B1G, and over-valued the teams publicly praised the most, and from the South.
It didn't matter that the B1G earned wins OOC over teams like TCU, BC, Pitt, Iowa State, Virginia, or even Utah State (most of whom held value in the eyes of the committee at some point). It only mattered that they lost to Eastern Michigan, Akron, Duke, Mizzou, Colorado, Notre Dame, Arizona State, and so forth, and so on.
If there was ever a year the B1G would get the benefit of the doubt, this was it. But, 9-3 Penn State, with a better OOC win than comparable SEC teams like Florida and LSU, didn't get a fraction of the love.
Why is that? Because LSU beat Georgia who is great because they beat Florida and Kentucky who beat basically no one. But, they're great because the SEC is so great.
The B1G got no love whatsoever, and had no leniency. Ohio State got no credit for winning on the road in that weather in East Lansing. Had that been an SEC team, it would have been a tough, hard fought road win in awful conditions. But, it wasn't, so it was immediately scrutinized. Their defining narrative would always be Purdue Harbor. No mention of how many night road games they had to play; no mention of Purdue's dynamic play makers. The only mention is "lost to a 6-6 team by 29".
No mention of Georgia being dominated by LSU, who has a pedestrian at best offense. Georgia was about to get back into the CFP with TWO LOSSES and, for the second straight season, with a loss of 20 or more points on their resume. No mention of that either.
So, as much as I want the entire B1G to roll thru their bowl games again, it won't matter.
It won't matter because last year when they did, the talking heads diluted its meaning immediately by swaying their opinion of bowl games to being meaningless exhibitions.
It won't matter because the narrative is being sewn and Jim Delaney threaded the needle for them.
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I agree with you 100% and only when we get 90% of our fans repeating those same talking points- instead of just repeating what ESPN is saying like it's the gospel- only then we will see a change in the narratives in our favor.
Merry Xmass all.
"If you take it to em and you keep takin it to em , hell there's no question whose gonna win" W.W.H
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Merry Christmas NB.
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Turning MJ against TUN is a cold cold thing to do.
He did it to himself and he has no one to blame... except himself!!
The BIG 10 could win all their games and then WOW - look highly ranked they are in the pre-season. AWESOME - then lose to Arizona State, BYU, - DO NOT give me this load of crap. The BIG had some respect and then they fell apart early last season. Maryland did come through again against Texas. In the pre-season the BIG had rankings of No 4, 5, 10, 11, 14. Then Penn State struggled in OT against App. St. and MSU barely won against Utah State, xighgan lost - then MSU gets beat by ASU, Wisconsin falls to BYU, and the powerhouse of Nebraska started off with a bang along with the 0-3 start of Purdue. At the end of the day you have to win. I know the SEC may get more passes than the BIG 10 - but they having Alabama helps them b/c they win and do not get crushed by an average team.
Agreed 100%. People forget that Wisconsin was a preseason top 5 team. Penn state was top 10. And if Michigan had beat ND they would have been in the top 2-3 when we played them.
Its not like the B1G is the mountain west and can’t get any respect. We just need teams to not shit the bed.
Exactly, BrutusB, Wisconsin somehow lost to BYU-- the same team that lost 6-7 to Nor Illinois and 18-21 to Cal Berkeley.
BIG had a lot of pre-season love. After first couple weeks of season, faded with out of conference losses.
A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore. - Yogi Berra
The committee doesn't do pre-season anything. What the AP thinks is irrelevant. Look at this from the perspective of the committee and how they rank teams compared to the S&P+ and F+ rankings. Week in and week out, they over-valued the ACC and SEC, and under-valued the B1G.
That doesn’t change the fact that the other B1G teams face planted though. The committee had Michigan in their top 4 when we played them. If Wisconsin had lived up their billing they would have been in the top 4 too.
Does it change the fact that even without Chicken Shit Saturday, the B1G finished with a very comparable OOC record to the SEC? The B1G wasn't quite as garbage as the narrative will have you believe.
Come on - you mean to tell me if Ohio State was undefeated and defense was not up for being a Saint this year (so holy) and they played and undefeated xichigan and lost there would not be talk of putting two BIG's in the playoff. Do I think Georgia deserved to be ahead of OSU - of course not - but at the end of the day it is what it is. I would love Alabama to get spanked that would go much further in an argument that the SEC is not that great. Also - I do not believe anyone was saying the ACC is a powerhouse but Clemson took care of business and they are in again. it was just a couple years back when the committee gave OSU a shot after they failed to even make the BIG championship game, and that choice looked bad after Clemson blew them out.
There would be a lot more need for an argument if OSU or another BIG was undefeated or one close loss - was left out for a clearly inferior team.
ALSO - there is no doubt in my mind if OSU would have really stuck it to Northwestern - they would have been in. The big play monster raised it ugly head in the Championship game - I remember leaning over to my buddy in Indy when they gave up the 70 plus yard TD run and I said - "well that most likely cost them a chance at the playoffs."
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I thought the 77(ish) yard touchdown was the final nail in the coffin, too.
My entire point has been that Ohio State faced accountability for their shortcomings to a far greater extent than Oklahoma or Georgia. I'm not pretending the Buckeyes weren't flawed, I'm saying their flaws were examined in far, far greater detail than those other two teams.
I think that is product of being Ohio State too. Were the fans of OSU happy with the way they play most of the season - no. Heck just look at a lot of the posts on this site alone with all the crying of how poorly they were playing. Unlikely the Oklahoma or Georgia fans were that upset with their season of play. Hell - Oklahoma seemed proud of it (claiming this is big 12 football). Georgia best wins were against Kentucky and a pedestrian Florida team, and biggest claim was they hung with Alabama which is pretty lame, but until they get knocked off it looks good.
However - this year especially I think the Buckeyes with the help of some poor BIG ten play the scrutiny was warranted. Georgia lost two ranked teams - granted LSU was not as good as their ranking, and as I noted above Oklahoma was proud of their year even with some close play. But OSU's stretch of games after Penn State till Michigan were not a strong lost one and nearly lost a few more.
3M:"I'm saying their flaws were examined in far, far greater detail than those other two teams."
BUT 49-20 loss WAS a skunking! That was the reason we were "slighted" . The Bucks flat out LOOKED like they threw the game! We all know that they did not, BUT that was something that fans and gurus had to have an instance where they wondered down deep before REJECTING that thought. I remember posting before the game one this board that P.U. was an away trap game and they were not called the Spoilermakers for no reason.
IT is what it is because of that only.
I agree with most everything else in your posts. GO BUCKS!
Went 7-1 and still got no respect this season.
The media will continue to paint us in a negative light to drive subconscious bias.
We got a ton of respect this season. Go look up the preseason rankings.
And it lasted right up until the minute overhyped Wisconsin lost at home to BYU.
Yep. Which is still fair.
Our problem wasn’t the committee nearly as much as Hornibrook being terrible. If we had beaten an 11-1 Wisconsin in the CCG instead of an 8-5 NW we’d probably be in. (Though if we’re just changing records arbitrarily we could also have not lost to Purdue by 30).
If Northwestern simply hadn't lost to Akron, they would have been 9-3, and more respectable. But, none of it matters, because (in my opinion) Ohio State answered the mail differently than other teams.
What was different about Ohio State's win over Maryland and Oklahoma's win over Oklahoma State?
Not much has changed since 2014, if you ask me: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2014/11/15/7227283/ohio-state-espn-bia...
Maryland took us to OT and finished under .500. Ok State lost in regulation and is a bowl team now.
When those games were played, each team was hovering at .500, and Ohio State was on the road. Oklahoma was on in position to defend a two-point conversion attempt only because Oklahoma State missed a previous PAT.
So, at the time, Ohio State was massacred, and Oklahoma got a pass. But, their opponents were essentially the same team. And, Maryland did have a win over Texas under their belt.
Or NW could have just beaten Akron and Duke.
No shit, wouldn't that be nice?
We beat a #4 top ranked defense. Put up 62 and still didn’t make a move. . . The committee had their bias in 3 months ago
I think the only time I ever rooted for Michigan was the last bowl game they played against Florida w/ Tebow. I felt horrible afterwards. Would not recommend.
Two things, fuck herbstreit and fuck Mythigan. That is all.
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
Pretty sure I would root for Michigan to win if they were playing a game we needed them to win in order to make the playoffs or win the big 10 championship but that would be the only circumstance and even then it would be begrudgingly.
I may take that back. I think there was another game where I hoped they would win so we would get the division title. They lost. I wasn’t really rooting for them though.
True, it’s not rooting for them, it’s rooting for the circumstance to carry out in our favor. Fuck Michigan!
I'm very conflicted. A couple years ago, it was in our best interest for them to beat Iowa, but when they lost at the last second, I said screw it, and just enjoyed the hell out of it. Last bowl season, I was OK with the possibility of the B10 going 8-0. When scUM was up big in the 3rd, it looked like a done deal. To have them then collapse in such epic fashion, to a crappy team no less, was the best outcome of all. I have lots of B10 friends out here, and almost every one of them has brought up the 7-1 bowl record, and then we share a good laugh at scUM's expense. It's not just Buckeyes that hate them.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
It does not matter what any of the Big 14 teams do. ESPN will spin it in favor of the SEC. I will root for most of the Big 10, but not Penn. or TTUN. Not ever!
Exactly! Under no circumstances will I EVER root for those Puke & Blue arrogant scummers!
It's a no from me, dawg.
no.... no.... NO.... NO WAY I ROOT for ttun.... and as a Jet fan, *ichigan, never lose your love for Hairball...
I wish I could agree with this sentiment that the B1G can help itself with bowl wins. However, this is really not the case and all you have to do is point to last year. SEC fans and the national media, particularly ESecPN will emphasize the 'meaningless' bowl games when the B1G does well and/or SEC does poorly. Last year we were 7-1 and this is what we heard along with 'favorable match-ups" garbage. However, when the tables are turned and the B1G does poorly and SEC does well, it just shows 'how great the SEC is and bad the B1G is'...typical media (especially ESecPN) and SEC fan double talk.
BTW, teams I would pull for TTUN to win over in essentially a meaningless bowl game - Alabama, Auburn, LSU, FLORIDA, Georgia, Tennessee, Clemson, USC, Miami, Texas
You win with people
Who the flip wrote this article?? K Rowland???
Root for ttun, ARE YOU NUTS?!? Not happening.
Now Mr. Regimbal, go back under the rock with your other scum fans and get off my lawn.
God > Family > Buckeyes football
Root for Michigan? Yeah, that's not going to happen. Some of you can do the walk of shame after rooting for them, but not this guy. Look, if they win, they win, but if they lose, I'm ok with that too. You will never see me root for them, not even when OSU needs them to win.
"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra
Root for ttun you say...
We have to cheer for who this post-season...
Who and where is that bottom from?
Looks like Martina Hill from a German comedy show called Knallerfrauen.
"Year for what?"
She's a feisty one for sure, right?!?
Looks like Silver pointed you in the right direction though, happy searching.
Whoever she is, she sure as hell hates Michigan, that’s for sure.
Been forever since I logged on just to upvote, but you deserve it for this one KBonay. +1
Aloha and Merry Christmas to all!!
Means nothing. Last year proved it when the Big 10 was by far the best conference in college football and got nothing for is success. Backing it up by winning all bowl games, sans one, was nothing more than a nice asterisk. Screw SCum. This year, everyone had them as the #3 team in the country until we destroyed them and we got nothing for our thoughts. Same thing every year and I am about sick of it.
This is what I hate about the current CFB playoff system. I think that if it moved to an eight team playoff, these "voters" would find a way to put four SEC teams in and we'd be in the same position. It's all biased.
The ONLY way to take the bias out of it is to
Also, I'm NOT cheering for Michigan.
Also, also: I expect Michigan, Purdue and Iowa to choke.
They would need a cap of one on the at-large bids per conference so as to avoid all three going to SEC teams.
Great point, Silver Sniper! I hadn't even thought of that.
Sorry, not ever rooting for TTUN. As in ever. Nope nope nope.
I’d rather not have any presents under the tree tomorrow than root for that f’ing team. I don’t care if them being weak hurts OSU. I want them to be weak! They suck.
Oh, Merry Christmas to Buckeye Nation.
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Last year proved that the bowls are utterly meaningless in terms of shifting "conference perception." The Big Ten owned the bowl season last year, yet the talking points this season were the same as they ever were; The Big Ten is mediocre, the SEC is king.
You can say that had to do with a couple out of conference losses this year, but if that's the case, you're admitting that the bowls are worthless. If everyone is just on to the next season once it begins and the bowls are forgotten, what good are they?
If this was a forum post it would have been deleted in less than an hour.
1. I have always been a #ForTheGoodOfTheB1g
B. Purdue vs Auburn! Who would have thought that was a possible bowl matchup?
How about I just root for every SEC team to lose...except for Florida? I have gone into multiple games with the notion I am going to root for those clowns up north, but then the opening kick off happens and that notion goes to shit. I don't pretend anymore. Like posters above have said, the BIG results haven't made a dent in national perception. An SEC shit show across the board is probably more influential if anything. Fuck *ichigan.
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.
My argument to Kirk is Georgia had their chance to beat Bama but lost. So know you want them to play again and Bama wins. Who is the best team? Then your going to have that argument for a 100 years who should of been the NC. You play the game one team wins and one loses and the loser goes home this isn't the best out of three. I would admit Georgia is a top 4 team but Bama beat them so they don't get another chance. I feel the team that shouldn't be in the mix is ND they would get smoked by Texas and W.Virginia I think they wouldn'yt stop any of those teams.
This is Christmas Eve, not April Fools...
One man's trash, is another man's treasure
And f*ck *ichigan!!!
We smoked a highly ranked TTUN team this year and it dind't get us in the playoffs, so no value gained in rooting for them to win. I'd rather enjoy Michigan tears over their team ending the season with a losing streak again. Every time their saviour fails, I'm happy :)
Nope don't care. 8-1. Hope those bastards get beat by 50
So let me get this straight, the B1G had 1 lose last year and OSU was left out of the CFP two years in a row (this year being a one loss conference championship team to boot). Hmmm....that's solid logic guys. /sssssssssssssss
Wow...this makes ZERO sense! Screw TTUN! I'm a gator fan come Saturday night.
It is time!!!!!
Bowl results are pointless , we went something like 7-1 last year and it did nothing for us this year . Auburn lost to UCF last year, still no change in perception....
Exactly. If the bowls are so meaningful for boosting conference perception, Ohio State would've been a playoff team this year.
Yea, not gonna happen! Doesn’t matter what happens in the bowl games as far as rankings go for the next preseason because a lot of the teams are going to lose players to graduation, transfers, leaving early to the nfl, etc. and some of the morons doing the voting just base it on what they think anyway, as with this years preseason rankings. If tuna was playing Notre shame I would be rooting for a 0-0 tie.
Nope. Have resided in west xichigan for thirty years. The next dollar I spend in the people's republic of Ann Arbor will be the first
If you can't be a Buckeye, it's good to know one
This is 100% accurate. Based on the comments, I am amazed at how many Buckeyes fans are stuck in the 80s (maybe even the 60s), and I went to OSU in the 80s. Other than losing the Rose Bowl, the worst thing that can happen in Bowl season is Michigan getting their ass kicked by an sec team.
ALL THAT MATTERS IS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND ANY VARIABLE THAT COULD KEEP US OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS IS NOT A GOOD THING. And yes Michigan sucking in a non conference game is one of those variables.
Sorry, I just cannot root for those people. I did once, when Lloyd played Urban. But it didn't feel right.
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Root for all BIG except that little team up north and penn state! I’m fine with 6-2 and then the Sec be1-7! I really can’t ever think of a time I would be glad for for a ttun victory in anything!!!
I rarely do absolutes, so I will not say I'd never root for that school. But it sure as hell ain't happening this year! As long as they have their current coach, I will root against them, not for them! And I want them to keep this Coach until the WL record is at least 20 games in our favor.
But I do wish them a Merry Christmas and a miserable New Year!!!
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
Michigan? Here is what everyone thinks of this dumb idea.
The only true worry we should have about this 2019 team is this:
Why is Sevyn Banks wearing number 12?
NFW. I'm good with 8-1.
We should want the entire B1G to win. We need to dominate as a league over everyone else. That means higher rankings in the polls.
You kids today HAVE NO INKLING OF WHAT IT MEANS TO OWN UP ! This is a conference and when the conference is playing others as they will be this week, IT MATTERS...…….. so stop you BS no blue ! I am a fan of the BIG, and always will be, I HOPE EACH AND EVERY TEAM KICKS THEIR OPPONENTS ASS INTO THE EARTH, and makes the SEC embarrassed to have played us !
IF YOU CANNOT ROOT FOR THE BIG...…….. YOU CANNOT ROOT FOR THE BUCKEYES, IT MEANS YOU HAVE NO COMMITMENT ! YOU COMMIT TO ONE, YOU COMMIT TO ALL ! THEIR IS NO "I" IN TEAM
I don’t care if it gets so bad up there they have to cancel the football program in favor of ballet.
And I would hate the ballet dancers also.
OSU's brand has carried this crap conference for the better part of 18 year's and that's just in football.. All OSU has gotten for it from our "conference brethren" is scorn, hate and envy, so Hell naw I'm not "rooting" for the B10 conference especially ttun... Outside of OSU the B10 can all go to Hell
LOL - That's NEVER going to happen in MY house. Even my lovely, awesome and amazing wife looked at that headline and said, "yeah, not gonna happen".
The B1G can go 8-1 and all will be well.
Dammit, Canada, how did you get so lucky? I married Sweden over here. She takes no side on anything. Very peaceful and passive. I tried to indoctrinate her in the ways of the scarlet and gray and hatred toward TUN and she thinks I’m just being silly.
Hey, Silver, I didn’t get lucky. My lovely awesome and amazing wife is a gift from God.
But I sympathize with your plight. My bride has totally gotten on board. She’s the one from Canada - I’m from Ohio - and she’s even confiscated several of my Buckeye T-shirts to wear. Boy do they look good on her!
You are blessed, sir.
What we need is a Commissioner to stand up for our conference.
Went 8-1 last year and got left out again this year. Just don't see the logic in the strength of conference angle taking the last two years into account. Doesn't seem to be working. In that vein, * uck the forest rats. Hope they lose every game they play.
Never ever cheer for TTUN. Never. Ever.
Screw those arrogant bastards up north!
this whole thing is horrible..... really thought 11W was better than this. perception will never change based on a bunch of exhibition games.
So, no..... rooting for ttun will never happen.
Best case scenario is Michigan wins every game always except against Ohio State. This is what makes the conference strong and there’s no better way to destroy the dreams of Michigan fans every year.
Beating Thrashing Michigan this year as a #4 ranked team did not help Ohio State in the eyes of the committee. Even after doing so, they only ended up 1 spot lower than us and we didn't even move up to 5. So for those of our number who think that a good UM team helps Ohio State, I am not sure that argument holds any more. I formerly am a person who thought that UM being good helped us. After this year I am totally over that notion.
As long as Alabama wins the Natty, the B1G will play second of third fiddle to the SEC. The B1G can go undefeated in bowls and it still won't matter.
The Big Ten will get zero credit if they have a good bowl season. 7-1 last year and the conference still got left out of the playoffs this year. No respect at all because the system is rigged for the southern teams.
Never forget how we got screwed in 98
Comparing the SEC and the B1G ...
Both have one dominant program (Alabama vs. OSU). When it comes to the 2nd tier, the SEC has one (Georgia) and the B1G has at least 2 (TTUN, PSU,).
People might argue for Florida, LSU and A&M, but they're not what they used to be. The B1G can make a similar argument for Wisconsin, MSU and Iowa.
IMO it's a draw or a slight edge to the B1G for the distribution of talented teams.
LOL ... David David David ...
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
I have tried. I really have. I try to root for Michigan against SEC, against ND, in bowls, etc. But I have yet to be successful. I think it's that darn song. May they loss forever,
I always root for all of the Big 10...except Michigan. Them losing is behind only a Buckeye win. We don't need them to be good to achieve our goals.
Bears...Buckeyes... Battlestar Galactica.
It would be great if the B1G won all the bowls. But the sad fact is that the B1G isn't up to snuff this year, and are in some bad match-ups statistically. There are only 3 bowl games that I confidently picked B1G teams to win (the Buckeyes, PSU and UM); and I see 4 sure losses (Minnesota, Wiscy, Sparty and NW). The other 2 are coin-flips. My prediction is the B1G will go 4-5 this year. Hope I'm wrong, but I just can't reasonably see it any other way. Here's why:
Minnesota has the #76 run defense and faces GA Tech... I'm guessing they lose by 4 scores, IF their defense plays it's best game.
Wisconsin would usually have the edge on offense vs Miami, but both teams will play without their starting QBs. Also, Miami's defense is twice as good as the Badgers. Wisconsin's #57 run defense faces Miami (who has the #25 run defense, and the Badgers haven't done well against top 30 defenses). Also, the Cane's pass defense is the best in the last 10 years from the ACC and that includes Clemson's best pass defenses during that time; so the Badgers will absolutely be 1-dimensional and easy to load the box on. I like Miami in that one comfortably.
Sparty will lose to Oregon; that's another easy pick for a B1G loss. MSU just has zero offense, and the Beaver's offense is good enough to outscore them.
Northwestern will lose to Utah. The Utes just win bowl games, period; plus their defensive front 7 are better than all but two that Northwestern has faced, and they lost handily to those.
Purdue vs Auburn is a coin-flip. Purdue's offense is a bit better than Auburns, but they took a big hit on their defensive line, losing their best lineman and their best DE will fill the DT position. With a 2nd team replacement at DT for the Boilers, Auburn's offense will look much better than normal. On the flip side, the Tigers had 35 sacks and 27 TFLs; so the Boilers offense won't look anything like they did against the Buckeyes. I'm taking Auburn, but the Boilers might find a way to win as they have better coaching and offensive weapons.
Iowa vs Miss St. is another coin-flip, with both teams evenly matched statistically. Vegas is picking MSU by -8; but I believe it will be within a field goal and it's anybody's guess who comes out on top. Iowa's pretty good at exceeding expectations in bowls too.
Go Bucks! Beat the Huskies and win the Roses!
~ The Buck Guy
BULLSHIT! This should fall under political views. If you feel that way, great. But don’t try to shovel that shit down everyone’s throat. I hope they lose every game until the rapture.
no way in hell !
Conference went 8-1 last year or something like that (I remember who the -1 was)
Did absolutely freaking no good this year.
Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege.
Tyrion: A wedding.
Exactly. The talking heads want who the want, and who they want is the SEC. Hell, they leapfrogged Georgia over is just to prove a damn point.
According to this idiotic article, I suppose we are to believe that if *ichigan beats Florida, we're gonna be the best conference in all the land next year, and I think that's asinine at best. What good did 8-1 last year do us? Absolutely nothing.
"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"
I should cheer for Michigan to beat Florida?
You havin a laugh mate? ... Have you gone mad
Lol I don’t care what anyone says. I will never root for TTUN to win a game.......not now......not ever.
Because I couldn't go for three. -- Woody Hayes
I'm sorry. I just don't subscribe to the "you should want TTUN do have success outside of when we play them" idea. Never have. Never will. And neither should ANY true Buckeye.
I tried to root for them one year after we beat the shit out of them. I could not do it. It felt so dirty. Wrong. That will never happen again.
11W really needs to add the Michigan question to its job application.
Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
The bowl season helps with perception, but I think for playoff selection it would be better for the Big 10 to win their out of conference games. The bad OOC games by the Big 10 early in the year kinda turned the great perception the conference had at the end of last year. Also, not scoring in consecutive playoff appearances did not help.
Big Ten needs to stop playing competitive teams in OOC play or at least play better teams the first game of the season while the other team is working out the kinks! Seems to work for the SEC. Or play in a dumpster fire conference like Clemson does and get an open path to the playoff.
One SEC type change that the Big 10 should consider is chickenshit Saturday and schedule IAA teams the week before the rivalry games.
I'm 64 and the day I root for TTUN is the day I crawl in a grave and pull the dirt over myself. Can not and will ever do it. My son went to a privite High School up there back in the 90s. Every time I took him I tried to use someone else's car to take to sign him in for the year. If not the minute I got back the tires on my car were took of and new tires put on and I left the old tires with who every changed them because the touched that SCUM soil.
This isn’t the SEC. I hope they lose every single game they play. Same goes for Penn State
I don’t want to be the SEC. They have Bama... that’s it. Georgia hasn’t done anything in 30 years! I don’t want Rutgers acting like Kentucky fans and chanting SEC/B1G at games because they have no other hook to hang their hats...
Wherever you are, there you be!
I will never root for Michigan. Never.
Their loss to Sout Carolina last year still brings me much joy. I would love it if they never win another game.
Clickbait article. Writer knows such a statement is pure nonsense but writes it anyway. All for the clicks, not meaningful content.
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Rooting for the Big 10, but I see an 0-5 start, before rallying to a 4-5 bowl season... Just can’t see Minnesota, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin or SCUM winning. Iowa, Northwestern, PSU and OSU should end the bowl season in fine fashion.
Would love to see 8-1, with only UM going down...
Miami playing in the cold at Yankee Stadium is about as sure of a loss as there is.
From the last time yhey met in a bowl
The game displayed a sharp contrast in the locations of the two schools. Although played in the typical warm weather city of Orlando, the game time temperature was only about 40 degrees. Most Miami players wore long sleeves and would stand by heaters on the sidelines, however almost all Wisconsin players wore short sleeves and stated prior to the game that it felt like spring.
Just like when they play Notre Dame, I’ll be rooting for a sinkhole to swallow the field. Fuck em.
David, stop it! Right now, stop it!
If the Big Ten, PAC 12, and Big 12 stopped playing 9 conference games a year (effectively canabalizing themselves) and added the Citadel they’d look like a stronger conference as well!
On January 10th of 2015, after the NC game, Ranked Big Ten teams were 4-1 and the Ranked SEC West teams were 0-5.
"Our kind of families win a few more football games than others." Coach Hayes
Seeing as how you're new here, I can only conclude that you were forced into writing this as some sort of hazing from the other 11W writers/staff-members. LOL, encouraging us to root for Michigan - that's some funny shit!
There are still tickets available for the Rose Bowl. Did we sell our allotment? Just curious. Going to the parade and game. can’t wait...#GoBucks
i never said any of that ive been censored fuck you 11 W censors
It's like pissing in a bed pan. Your brain says do it, your body refuses, and if your doing it, it just feels WRONG.
The SEC is still the king of college football, but...
SEC is only "king" because even 11W writers keep reinforcing this idea...
A gentle reminder to BE NICE. Plays guitar and makes iced tea in the winter.
No, they are the "KING" because of Results on the Field. OSU got the whole SEC Ball rolling by laying an egg (2006) vs. Florida then the again the next year to LSU. In the last 12 seasons---9 times the SEC has won the title, including a 7-in-a-row streak in that span. While mostly Alabama,----Florida (2), LSU and Auburn have got in on the act. Last 12 Years since OSU lost to Florida.
SEC: 9 titles
ACC: 2 titles
Big Ten: 1 title
Pac 12: NONE
Big 12: NONE
It's the SEC dominance that has became a narraitive. OSU is holding up it's end of the bargain----the rest of the Big Ten? NOPE
Oh boy. There are a lot of Buckeye fans that wear. Me. Out. Come on guys. Get off of the totally anti-Michigan all the time thing. I'm a graduate of the U of Iowa. I have said for a long time that the Big 10 needs a strong Ohio State AND a strong Michigan. The rest of us have to pull our weight , too. I get it. The guys here at Eleven Warriors get it too. Inside the conference I want to kick everybody's collective hind ends. Outside the conference we all have to kick those other guys hind ends and that means pulling for each other, all of them including Michigan. You success spoiled Buckeyes don't get it, but spending a few years on the roller coaster will help you understand. I'm not wishing Ohio State ride that sickening beast, because I want the Big 10 to be great and that requires a great Ohio State AND a great Michigan. Go EVERY bowl bound Big 10 team, including Michigan. And for every Buckeye fan that I have offended - oh well, a few thousand more Christmas presents I ain't getting! Go HAWKS! And every other Big 10 team!