Brian Hartline Already Has Ohio State's 2020 Wide Receiver Recruiting on Track for One Heck of a Haul

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buckguyfan1's picture

Is wrong to have a man crush on Hartline?  I love that guy, he’s so good for this program. 

Simplify...

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

Absolutely not. 

Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.

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Buck68's picture

Tate_Schroeder... would appreciate your feedback on the following:

we can drink Absolut... 'responsibly'...

but feeling thinking saying doing 'absolutely' ...

reveals a 'moment of losing' touch with our slightly imperfect selves...

absolutely.

From this self-destruction, we occasionally need... absolution.

So we can "win the moment"...before our next stupidity....   ;-{)}

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BuckeyeinSavannah's picture

What's not to like about him? He has so much going for him. He excelled as a player at OSU and had a very respectable NFL career. I think he still has his chain of convenient stores.

He obviously knows what he's doing. What to do while at OSU and after. He's a walking blueprint on what OSU can do for you.

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jascott14's picture

A lot of us love Hartline too. My man-crush is in full swing! It was painful at times watching him have to work UNDER Zach Smith for a year knowing how much more experience/success he had. It was almost like he should have been named wide receivers coach immediately upon arriving back home at tOSU!

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unknownmusketeer's picture

May he become the Larry Johnson Sr. of wide receiver coaches.

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stxbuck's picture

You are only allowed to have a man crush on Hartline if you never complained about his tOSU coach and his offense...........................

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WoullyBear's picture

Pretty handsome fella

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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mbabuck's picture

Offensive success

One Strong

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Beaver's picture

Unless we do get Fields, the WR role will not be very important except to block. I guess we could all pretend we have not seen Martel play and fantasize that it would be anything close to this year.

Karl sherrick

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

It's not like Martell is a poor passer. To say he won't have a season like Haakins says nothing about the success he will potentially have. Haskins' season had been historically epic. The Buckeyes will be fine if Martell is the starter.

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Beaver's picture

It will be a remake of the Braxton show, only 6 inches shorter. Not that many plays to the WR. We will see or maybe we get Fields.

Karl sherrick

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SantaBarbaraBuck's picture

You obviously haven’t seen Tate play much. I have. Dude can sling it. 

"Man I wish everyone stop saying I beat a kid in the hospital 91-35.... It was 98-35, had 91 with 1:26 left in the 4th"
- Cardale Jones

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Part of me wants to see Tate take over as starting QB. I mean the dude NEVER LOST a high school game he started in!  And it's not like he played a patsy schedule.  Gorman played against America's heavyweight high school football teams.  If he starts, we are in good hands.

If Fields comes here, there is gong to be ONE HELL OF A BATTLE for starting QB. I would love to be a fly on the wall or goal post (for indoor and outdoor practices) to watch this play out.

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Games that count as a real win/loss.  Spring game is a scrimmage and a dog and pony show only.

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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CTownBucknut's picture

There’s so much wrong with your posts, I don’t even know where to begin. But let’s start with this. This article is about 2020 WR recruits, and you are talking about who the QB will be in 2019. So even if Martell becomes the starter and struggles to throw, to which we haven’t seen nearly enough to know, it’s completely irrelevant as it pertains to this article, regarding kids that are 2020 recruits, meaning most wouldn’t be counted on to make a huge impact until 2021. So either you are misguided, or you just took the first opportunity you had to rag on Martell. Never mind the fact Day is the HC, and he’s going to find guys he feels can run his offense, whether that’s Tate or somebody else 

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Extramedium's picture

If you’re going to turn our upcoming WR haul into a negative, you should be much more concerned about our offense line than the QB. 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well in fairness, the 3 sr wrs on their way out did their share of blocking and ST, prior this year when they [also] did a lot of catching. Just sayin. Never know. Fields or not, what if Baldwin ends up in there?

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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keith7456's picture

It's huge having a guy that could probably still be playing in the NFL coaching/recruiting these kids.

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MN Buckeye's picture

Hartline has been a major improvement over Zach Smith. In addition to providing stability, he has the right skill set to be an assistant at OSU and is emerging as a top recruiter.

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jascott14's picture

And from the looks of it, follow in Vrabel's footsteps of being a potential HC somewhere someday....

He's definitely got the fire and drive to succeed. He was never the most talented receiver on the field but worked his ASS OFF to sustain himself in the NFL for as long as he did.

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Schizo's picture

Although, unlike Vrabel Hartline seems to want to recruit. 

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buckeyedude's picture

"Vrabel Hartline?"

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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Netbuck's picture

It's like DJ's oxford comma debate all over again!

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Extramedium's picture

No that’s just a missing comma.  Like in my previous sentence. 

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SHAKENBAKE68's picture

I could see the resemblance. I think it was the Purdue game every time the camera panned to Hartline( 3 or 4 times) he was lip syncing  WTF or F that!

There is no such thing as "friendly fire"..

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Although, unlike Vrabel, Hartline seems to want to recruit. 

FIFY. And to think people were concerned that we'd miss Zach Smith's recruiting prowess. I think it;s safe to say that the only people who miss him on the recruiting trail are the strippers whose g-strings he'd stuff with dollar bills.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

Sorry to be this guy but you didn't fix it for him. You added a comma, but didn't place it properly... then you mistakenly used ";" on "it's" on your response.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

So fix it. Show me how it looks with something other than a comma or where it should "properly" go.

If you didn't catch the tongue-in-cheek sarcasm in my correction, you should go back to bed and then get up on the other side.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

Mine was meant for fun, I realize now that it came off dickish. There space was on the wrong side of the comma. Now I see it is fixed. I just loved the irony of saying you fixed it for him, but it was still incorrect. FWIW, the reaction from you I was expecting was something along the lines of "Haha, oops, that's funny, lol." Again, my bad.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

No blood, no foul. Merry Christmas, Athens.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Extramedium's picture

Tom Herman will have to step it up.

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Hondo's picture

When Hartline was coming out of OSU I thought there was no way he was an NFL caliber player. That was neither the first time nor the last time I was wrong. Great asset to the program. Significant upgrade over Zach in every imaginable way.

The Browns are no longer the worst franchise in all of professional sport.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Hartline at WR coach and what Day has brought to the offense is going to have the top WR’s lining up to play here. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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LJ's Ninjas's picture

As well as quarterbacks (Ryan Day just whispered that in my ear).

Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.

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Mosely's picture

I remember this article from a few years ago for the 2017 class.

DPJ, Grimes, Lindsay and Harris

Hoping this class works out better.

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bd2999's picture

I suppose, but that is a very negative outlook on things. For that matter, OSU was in on all of those guys. 

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a.buck's picture

This is a great point. Through out the season i wondered if Grimes or DPJ regreted their decision. They have to see the OSU offense and think they could have had so much more fun and opportunities to catch balls

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Extramedium's picture

Of course they regretted it.  Especially DPJ. 

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stxbuck's picture

Players generally don't regret their decision not to come to tOSU, b/c tOSU under JT and Urban-like NW and Stanford and ND, unlike SEC-actually does get on the players asses about behavior and academics-and the recruits can read the writing on the wall during their recruitments/interactions w/ the staff and team-they know they will be more comfortable w/ the culture at an SEC school or Oregon or FSU or Nebraska if they choose a place like that over tOSU.

A lot of people think " How could anyone pass up tOSU!?!? I'd commit there in a second if was 18!!". Not all 18 year olds really like what tOSU is selling-or regret it once they get here-Torrance Gibson. Sometimes guys like Gibson realize Tennessee or Auburn is a better fit what they are looking for as an 18 year old.

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buckslan's picture

Let's see here. Grimes is at UF, hasn't made an impact yet. We dodged a bullet with Lindsay, who is transferring from Nebraska. Jury is still out on Harris. DPJ is having a so so career at scUM, and he's 0-2. I think we are doing just fine.

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Silver Sniper's picture

We have to be fair regarding DPJ. You can tell he is an amazing WR. He just has a really sucky offense all around him. 

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Buck68's picture

Silver Sniper, here in 3 short sentences, you have ordered a universe that philosophers over the ages have struggled lifetimes to recognize... let alone de-scribe.

What a wonderful and fearful explanation by contrast... of our universal need for the Savior!  Perennially timely, too. 

And... 'sadly'... i just mist qualifying for the job!  ;-{)}  But i do not intend to tell or trick you into some kind of Final Solution here.  Just summarizing the search on the journey... of each person, in their own way, by omission, commission, or self-deception.

BTW... it explains why i am abjectly unqualified in every respect.   Much less than all those fine folks who have claimed that role since... the Fall that didn't 'really' 'happen' due to 'Progress in a Circle' and other human Fair-y Tails...

FWIW - I am NOT "religious" - that is banned here!  I am 'egotistical' - by nature i have no other gods but ME.

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Woodshed's picture

Ok. I laughed at the last line

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Silver Sniper's picture

I feel honored by your reply, 68. Have a Merry Christmas. 

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Dillon G's picture

Sometimes change is unnerving because of the unknown. Maybe this  looks better to us because all the change is not unknown.

#walkaway

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Buck68's picture

thanks, Dillon G:

a very useful example of a 'difference that matters'

between "conjecture" [i.e try to put together/construct something from incomplete info]

and...  "speculation"  [pull whatever from wherever whenever for no apparent reason or purpose]

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esap153's picture

I agree with you folks, I was always surprised at the career Hartline carved out for himself in the NFL because I never thought he was physically gifted enough to be anything more than a journeyman slot receiver - and I thought that was a long shot! It's a testament to his drive and knowledge of route-running and understanding the offense. What more could you ask for in a receiver coach? Seems like he's got the recruiting thing down despite a miss or two...but that's a part of it. I was glad he was promoted to a full-time position

Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony

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Silver Sniper's picture

Right. He had a much stronger NFL career than most of us would have thought. Who’d have predicted he’d have the better career than Gonzalez, Robiskie, or Posey?

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stxbuck's picture

Gonzo had injuries, Robiskie was physically pretty darn similar to Harline, and Posey, well, he was kind of a flake.

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Silver Sniper's picture

All that said, he had the best NFL career of those three. 

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stxbuck's picture

Dude is 6'3 210, had speed and could run the deep routes. Dane Sanzenbacher or Chad Cacchio were slot receivers. Hartline never even played the slot at tOSU.

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luckynutz's picture

I loved the Great Dane. Dude was undersized. Not the most athletic. But man he was fearless.

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BigBuckFan25's picture

Brian Hartline is a great coaching hire. He succeeded for 7 yrs in the NFL through hard work using exceptional technique. A lot of kids realize that if Hartline can make it in the league that long with his athletic limitations then he can show these guys how to play receiver in a way that maximizes their off the charts athletic ability. That's a big draw for elite talent trying to make it to the NFL. Very happy Coach Day brought him on permanently!

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BuckInNashville's picture

If by “limitations” you mean top end speed, I disagree that 6’3” WRs that aren’t burners can’t make it in the league. Look around at Funchess, Thielen, Jeffrey - they have all made it with consistency, great hands, and precision route running. There is a place for these guys in the league and I don’t think they are referred to as being physically limited.

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Extramedium's picture

What does Usain Bolt being 6’5” have to with WRs without blazing speed being able to succeed in the NFL?

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buckslan's picture

I can think of a 6'3" receiver that isn't a burner that's making an impact in the NFL. He cheers for OSU a lot!

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BigBuckFan25's picture

Where did I say 6'3" WRs that aren't burners can't make it in the league?  I said he played for 7 yrs through hard work and exceptional technique.   Read his NFL scouting report, I did.  Quoting NFL.com on his negatives, "Lacks eye popping athleticism to offer much upside.  Doesn't have the straight line speed to challenge over the top.  Lacks burst out of his breaks." Clearly this report states his physical limitations but he did other things great which is why he played as long as he did in the NFL.  I checked again and nowhere in most previous post does it say a 6'3" WR that isn't a burner can't make it in the league.  Where the heck did you get that from?

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gobucks1966's picture

I said this before most of the up tick to our receivers was the guy throwing to them. It seems Hartline will be a equal or better to Z. Smith. Before I go crazy about him lets see who he brings in here talent wise as a recruiter before I go all in. Smith and his wife both are nut jobs but he was a fine receivers coach and recruiter here. Our wide outs have always been top notch receiving and blocking. C.Jones had no issues with them and the last quarter of the PSU comeback win too in 2017 JT for once laid the ball out there for them to catch.

Denny

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Extramedium's picture

And people around here don’t like to admit or acknowledge it but Zach Smith put WRs into the nfl at an insane rate, especially for OSU.

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buckslan's picture

And did it with JT and Cardale throwing to them. ZS will never get the credit he deserves around here for putting a lot of receivers in the NFL around 2015-2017.

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Silver Sniper's picture

I take Hartline over ZS any day.

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stxbuck's picture

A lot of that is internal drive/talent, not a specific position coaches coaching. tOSU recruited Roger Lewis but released him from his scholarship/commitment when he got involved in a he said/she said mess in HS. He tore it up at BG and had some success in the NFL before his attitude cost him his career.

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luckynutz's picture

Neither will Darrell Hazell. Look at the guys he put in the league. In a Bollman-Tressel offense...

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bucknuthoffy7's picture

2020 very well could be Ohio State's best wide receiver class ever. Hartline has done a great job in his first year as the interim coach. Glad Day gave him the full time title. I'm really happy with the 2 receivers from the 2019 class too. I think it's realistic we land 4 of those guys mentioned above in the 2020 class. I would love to see Hartline land Smith-Njigba, Scott, Jarrett and Flemming.

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NHBuckeye's picture

The coaching talent at Ohio State is just absurd.  Brian Hartline has, and will continue to do a tremendous job.  I actually think we will take at least four WR’s in the 2020 class.  With Kam Babb coming back at hopefully 100% next season there is no need to take another for 2019.  

What an exiting time for Coaches Day, Wilson, and Hartline.  They’ve got some serious toys to play with.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Buck68's picture

paraphrasing an old old famous forgotten saying:

"babble babble every where...

but not a single Babb update! "   ;-{)}

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LPCBuckeye's picture

The most gifted players rarely make great coaches.  The ones who relay on technique and precision usually do since they can teach what the learned. Hartline seems like a great hire. 

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luckynutz's picture

Hartline had a hella good position coach in Columbus. Hazell could recruit, and had his guys coached up well. Is currently the receivers coach for the Vikings. No surprise Adam Thielen came out of nowhere to be what he is now under Hazells tutelage.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Hartline has been a huge success from day 1. It's only getting better.

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BuckeyeJAK's picture

this is all good news. Anyone else ever notice how you dont see top recruits talking about Bill Davis ?

Mark May is a mental midget

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Dublin68's picture

Or Stud, I hope Day will have two and upcoming position coaches to take over on Jan 2nd from Stud and Bill Davis. He can't afford to lose one more day with both of them

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Extramedium's picture

100%.. The fact that we have been losing top Ohio O-linemen to UM of all places shows that something has to change.

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stxbuck's picture

So Cade Stover is 3 star chopped liver?????/

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bd2999's picture

That would be a pretty great group to be in the running for. Getting two of those guys alone would be awesome, let alone potentially three or so. 

The WR coach's ability on the field and on the recruiting trail seem to be above reproach at the moment. 

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Rocket Man's picture

He's quite an upgrade in every sense of the word

Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege. 
Tyrion: A wedding. 
Varys: Exactly.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I hope we ditch the Zone 6 stuff. Anything associated with the previous dipshit should be eradicated. Hartline can come up with a better name.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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buckslan's picture

FWIW, the receivers like it and chose to continue it.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

But they did subtly/quietly change the Zone 6 logo.

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Urban Master's picture

That's one hell of a picture of him to use!  Sheesh!

MW

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gobucks1966's picture

We all have opinions but I feel as a football coach Zack Smith gets a bad rap here. He coached and recruited well and was a big part of a NC. He sent some kids to the NFL and has about 5 others with his coaching going to join them very soon.

Denny

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Hondo's picture

Fair enough. Still, nobody is going to miss Zach. Nor, obviously, will anyone miss his bat shit crazy ex.

The Browns are no longer the worst franchise in all of professional sport.

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Extramedium's picture

we didn’t know anything about his ex-wife or personal problems until he was already fired.  It’s not like anyone was calling for him to be fired for those reasons when he was still coaching. 

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RBuck's picture

I like Brian Hartline so much I buy my beer from him.

Sooner or later it all gets real.

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Buck68's picture

I'm confused, not critical.

i don't understand all the hyperbole, when we claim a boatload of best...

yet put #66 'on the same level' as #1 and #5 and so forth.

MY math, and simple math, don't tell me how the wrong results from addition & subtraction are somehow 'the best' despite the differences in number we all so say are so important.

====BTW, Rodell Moore.  Do ANY of our present recruits have similiar athletic event times?  Ex: 10.3 100m?  Sub 4.0 10 yard shuttle?  TIA

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Buckeyedoc99200's picture

Really curious to see how this next class fills out. UFM was an unrelenting, unstoppable force of nature on the recruiting front so I expected a bit of a drop in talent going forward but at this point who knows? Time will tell......

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

I loved Hartline as a player.  Was pleased, but not surprised he found success in the NFL and am thrilled to see him at OSU as a coach.  I hope he is as successful in his new career as he has been at all of his previous endeavors.

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buckslan's picture

Andrew Ellis has a CB in for Julian Fleming to OSU and I feel confident about that as well. I think Fleming and Hartline vibe insanely well and OSU is going to get that guy.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

It's going to be a very tough pull but I agree with you — his relationship with Hartline seems to have really taken off in a pretty short amount of time. 

stxbuck's picture

Gee Scott has 11 CBs for tOSU, none for anyone else.

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CowCat's picture

If Gee Scott signs with Ohio State on Christmas, that will be more than newsworthy.

I live in Seattle. UW is in Seattle. He lives in Seattle. We're playing UW on New Year's Day.

It would be an absolute coup. It would be as if Zach Harrison chose UW.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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stxbuck's picture

Yes, it would noteworthy if he managed to sign his loi a year early...............................

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Buck68's picture

Stx... that is terribly... funny.

What's better, i suspect Cowcat will enjoy your aside as well....

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gobucks1966's picture

Just to clear things up a bit I love the Bucks as much if not more than anyone on here but I look at things a bit different than most. I like the Hartline hire but need to see what he will do  when Z. Smiths kids are gone and when he lands some recruits. The two kids in this class really are not his totally. Williams was in the works long ago and Wilson was Ryan Days baby. I think we are putting the cart before the horse with Hartline but he must be a keeper or he wouldn't of been moved up. Now lets see what he can do recruiting for 2020.

Denny

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CowCat's picture

UV'd you for stating an honest opinion.

In my case, I just watch. Whoever's receivers they were, they performed at a noticeably higher level this season. The difference to me was evident. We have a former OSU player with NFL experience teaching NFL techniques to OSU receivers. Even though Zach Smith recruited most of them, they bought into Hartline's advice and we saw the results.

We have a relatively young set of offensive coaches. Day, Hartline, Dennis, etc. They're hungry to establish themselves and it's going to be fun to watch!

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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gobucks1966's picture

They have bought in but Haskins made everyone look good even our line with his quick release.

Denny

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

I don't care if the QB in September is Tate or the transfer from Georgia. I don't care if it's Baldwin either. An intelligent emphasis on passing is essential. Double digit QB runs would have me unhappy. We will see who's really coaching the Buckeyes.

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