I am stoked for this class
Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
I agree! It's easy to get caught up in class rankings but our per player rating is 3rd.
Negativity is a choice.
And Day is not done yet!
Not even close Snipe.
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The ending is the best part. O-H!
While I respect it in theory and for tradition, 41 to 14 was the result the last time recruiting Ohio went head to head with national recruiting. National recruiting is 100% the way to go.
Didn't Clemson beat us 31-0 with National kids? Ahh the dangers of making such sweeping statements utilizing so few data points.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
I apologize for not preparing an in depth data analysis prior to voicing my opinion, which is not an uncommon one on this site.
And Iowa and Purdue.
Re-read, I think he's making the same point you are.
EDIT: NVM I see the discussion now.
94-22 vs 82-9; that a more fair comparison? Also, the game changed a lot from the beginning to the end of Tressel's tenure until now. Similarly the demographics of Ohio have continued to slowly age.
Wow talk about cherry picking stats
on the field Tressel was 106-22, if you want to eliminate what the NCAA took from him for tatgate that's your choice
I dont agree, 106-22 is a .828, ignoring the fact he inherited a debacle from Cooper that needed blown up he went 99-17 or .853 after that. Meyer was better overall for sure at .901, but that is a difference of maybe 7 wins.
Plus Tressel won or shared 7 B10 titles in his last 9 years, vs Meyers 3* in 7 years (* for 2012 which would have likely been a 4th)
If Day does as well as Tressel did, 8 top 10's, 7 conference titles, 1 national title and play for 2 more in 9 years,,,
then I think we will all look back fondly on his success
Tim Beck and Ed Warriner were coordinating the offense...kind of puts a lid on offensive potential.
I’m starting to think Brian Snead is under university investigation if these coaches still can’t disclose any details. I thought he was going to be a great power back.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Hopefully it's nothing similar to what happened with Bri'Onte Dunn. Though I would think after ZS if he so much as drew an accusation with merit behind it the team wouldn't hesitate to move on from him in a heartbeat (they booted Rod Smith from the team for somewhat questionable reasons IMO).
Rod Smith kept flunking drug tests.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
Oh, is THAT all. I thought it may have been something serious.
Unfortunately, something major has to be going on. He didn't have the typical sit down for 1 or 2 weeks for breaking team rules. He hasn't even dressed since Week 2 and no coaches have provided any kind of answer why. Puzzling to say the least
There mus be one hell of a fight (university, legal) going on to drag this out for so long.
Yeah, I agree. Hate to say it....doesn't look good for him.
Only three WRs? Does that mean KJ Hill might be returning?
He should come back. He has a lot of work he can still do here. Learn from the former NFLer we got as position coach. Work on the hands. Be a leader. I sure hope he comes back.
I'd love to see him back for another year too, but I don't expect it, nor do I think it's the wisest decision for him, as I think there is little more he can do to help his draft stock. If you eliminate the pop passes to Campbell and look only at "real" pass receptions, Hill was already the Buckeye leader in receptions the past two seasons, and the leader in yardage this year. With Haskins gone after this year (dream on if you think otherwise), the passing attack is likely to take a step back, meaning Hill's numbers could go down this year. Hartline can't teach speed or elusiveness, which likely give Hill his ceiling. As with every player making this decision, Hill has to ask himself whether a potential upgrade in draft position (probably unlikely) is worth the risk of injury.
He was the most solid and well-rounded WR we had last season. If he's not ready, no one else is
I've been wondering the same thing about KJ. Man, that'd be a huge break!
There was speculation KJ might be tied to Haskins. If Haskins goes it would make sense for him to leave as well.
I would think if any of the WRs would be tied to Haskins' decision it would be Mack. But he's apparently returning next season so there's that.
On the state of quarterback recruiting in college football: "It's pretty wild right now." Said recruits need to understand that their best chance of success is to go to a place that can develop them, not simply where they can play right away. Day says "one of the best things to happen to Dwayne Haskins" was him waiting to play until this year. He says Haskins would agree with him, and they have talked about it.
The football gurus here completely disagree with this, Haskins should have started last year. Day, therefore, is apparently clueless.
You say he was ready based on what....to be honest I didn't know if he was ready this year....he was, but how do you know he had it last year....because of the ttun game?.....if you don't think they had a very stripped down game plan at the end of that game so that he could play w/out having to overthink then you don't understand football. Playing well for a quarter vs starting a season are two different animals completely. People thought Cardale would be tearing up the NFL now too....he could sling it but he needed more development, hell, many people thought Burrow should start this year. Haskins had a phenomenal year, I think much of that had to do with bringing him along properly.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
I think if Haskins started last year from week 1, he'd have set his records last season. And then broke his own records this season.
He learned more from playing in his first actual game than he did watching JT Barrett for two seasons, who has a completely different approach to the position.
Since you want to beat this dead horse, Haskins could’ve been a significantly worse passer than he was this year and he still would’ve been a much better passer than JT. Also, let’s be honest, what is Day going to say? “Haskins is the tits and we totally should’ve played him over, JT?” That wouldn’t make for a very great recruiting sound bite when he’s trying to convince kids to be patient.
And he'd be Twitter-fired for saying "tits"
Anyone else expected to sign today that we were recruiting?
No. All of our commits signed except Nester, who is looking around a bit. Nester can still sign with us in February, though, if we can keep him. Nester hasn't decommitted, is apparently just looking.
At this point what are the odds on Nester and/or Wray recommitting?
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I stand corrected. I interpreted your question to be about guys we had committed, but you said we were recruiting. We just signed a DT.
I know the common thought was that every class would be in the 23-25 range...the math just doesn't add up if players aren't leaving early or for other reasons. A smaller class will be necessary every now and again. There were some misses and some guys still out there that can and will find their way into this class. Harrison was huge. Fields still feels like a pipe dream, but that would be a tremendous get for Coach Day.
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
OSU has 21 spots assuming three leaving early for the NFL. After watching 247Sports and even BTN comments about the disappointing year the Buckeyes appear to be having, I guess they expected them to pull the rug out on five or ten players so they'd have enough signees to compete for the best class, but the thing is, they already have 24 four and five star players that mostly sat on the bench this year and who now have a valuable year or so of experience in the system. It's not a bad thing to have a good, small class when you have a huge talent pool to begin with. I'm thinking their 3 five stars and 20 four stars off the bench should be much more valuable than the same numbers now in high school going to other schools.
Never place a bet on anything that can talk.
If Fields were a pipe dream, Mathis would have signed with us today, or at least waited until later to sign somewhere. Top recruits know a lot more about this sort of thing than we do, and what Mathis did today is a pretty good indication that we are the front runner for Fields.
I get all that. I wasn’t saying there wasn’t a chance, just more so can’t believe there is a chance.
I love Day's non-answers. He is a slippery guy and should be able to better handle McMurphys of the world. Urban was more blunt, and that got him into trouble.
Nut on top
He is mastering Tresselese.
You win with people.
“And so forth....”
I had the same thought.
Day said "it is crucial for Ohio State to be great on defense." If he truly believes that it would indicate some moves being made in hte current defensive coaching ranks as they need to be.
After the bowl game.
Coach Stud is definitely gone. Day all but admitted it today.
Stud is a mediocre to slightly above average position coach who can't recruit well consistently. The position coach doesn't recruit every prospect at his position, but the state of our 2019 OL recruiting is pretty damning for Stud, as was the difficulty our OL had in getting lower than defensive linemen for most of the season. Hopefully he will be gone, along with Davis. I wouldn't mind seeing Taver Johnson and Schiano gone, but it's usually not a good idea to make too many changes to the coaching staff at one time.
Well, maybe a couple just have not made up their minds about leaving yet and they need to wait just a tad longer and others do sign later. Who knows what is going on all the time.
Day said "it is crucial for Ohio State to be great on defense" and he is right. If he truly believes that it would indicate some moves being made in the current defensive coaching ranks as they need to be.
so nice, say it twice. ;)
Sorry about the repeat. Program was not responding and didn't realize that it had already posted. I tried to remove second copy but even though it was under the 10 minute limit it did not allow removal.
No problem. Just a little lighter side of life.
I noticed on the Recruiting Grid that the Buckeyes will be down to a single PK next year. Yet no mention of a kicker in the 2019 class.
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I still have eligibility
You're a kicker, and we're stretching!
I'm damn good at "kicking" paper footballs
Shandy is not beer
we are gong for two after every touchdown now. no need.
I wonder if the smaller class means that so guys are staying
Real possibility that Hill, Fuller, Jordan, and one of Arnette/Sheffield come back. I think Landers and Hamilton are coming back for their 5th years. We dont have a lot of seniors to begin with and not a huge number of draft-eligible underclassmen either.
Please don't ruin the good vibes today by saying Arnette and Sheffield are staying for 2019. It's been such a good day up until now
BigBuckeye says Go Bucks
I'm looking forward to watching a press conference involving Coach Day. For some reason, i feel like it will be a nice change of pace from Urban
Honestly anyone but Saban would be a nice change of pace from Urban. But we didn't hire him for press conferences
Since Young developed a lot during the season, maybe the Bucks run some “rushmen” packages next fall.
Young, Cooper, Smith, Harrison/Friday
Reading about each of these kids, they're all something special. Super excited about the '19 class and how they will jive with the rest of the players that are returning!
Are we allowed to talk about the absolute smoke show in the yellow jacket at about 5:40 in to the video?
"...and when we win the game, we'll buy a keg of booze. And we'll drink to old Ohio till we wobble in our shoes."
The entire video is a still camera pointed at Day
You obviously did not watch the video... We don't have to talk about your embarrassment.
Day was quite impressive
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Still think his best "recruiting" pitch may be to get Haskins back. Can't help but wonder if he didn't sell a bunch of guys on a Championship run next year. They keep dropping soundbites like the class is basically done and those of us at home are thinking "aren't there like a 5-6 guys who we think are off to the NFL?" which would free up spots.... but that's not how they are talking. Could be everyone back but Jones and Weber..
"Our staff is going to be one of the best recruiters in the country. That's the first part of this thing as we move forward."
Reading through all ol the comments I was most struck with the above. Recruiting is what Urban believed to be the “life-blood” and it sure sounds as we’ll have that same emphasis. As far as ohio kids, I personally love that Day has [what appears to be] a more focused lens. I think you can do both; target the best Ohio has to offer and target the best nationally. Sure there will be 3* success stories but you simply can’t put blinders on within the state.
"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody
Exactly... All things being equal I'm all for favoring an in-state 4-5 player over one from elsewhere, but I don't think we should start taking 3 stars over those same out of state guys. Sometimes it seems like commenters want us to be Michigan State down here.
Now just win and keep beating TTUN and your legacy will be built and secure!!
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body!!! USMC
I really like how Day handles himself. Obviously losing a legend like Meyer is never a happy moment and Day will be evaluated by his teams performance on the field, but you can tell he has a plan and I’m happy to see it in action.
Not bad for a transitional class.. Sure they lost a couple kids but that is to be expected. I'm fairly stoked about this bunch.. Next year will be very interesting after a season under Day. I will bet it will be stocked with talent.
Pigskins & Porkrinds
Day's message is clear, he is not going to over sign kids to get a higher rating, he is going to find the best kids at every position (ohio and nationally) and establish a trust with coaches/parents that the kids he brings in will want to be Buckeyes and graduate from OSU. Urban over signed and pushed kids out. I think Ryan Day will one day go down as the winningest coach in OSU history. All he needs to do is find the Ryan Day's of coaching for the defense and hire them. Get this defense back to a top ten (OSU has the athletes) just need to replace Davis, Johnson and Grinch. Many Big Ten championships to follow and a lot of National Championships to play for!!!
I think Grinch will be given an opportunity to show what he can do as Schiano ran the scheme
This guy just seems like a great guy to play for. To talk to. To coach for. Seems like a great fit for this program. Many fans have been calling for this guy to take over, a while back. I was one of them.
Excited for the young bucks. Go Buckeyes
If Snead is a problem, Glass remains unsigned.
I think it was an awesome haul.
I even got the thumbs up from billy bama at work.
He is the biggest tide fan and really really really studies this stuff. He was even blown away how good we did considering.
I have converted him to being a osu fan when we don’t play the tide. Funny world man ha
I enjoyed reading about them and the journey through this turmoil. We are in good standing!
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