Five-Star Quarterback Prospect Justin Fields Exploring Transfer from Georgia; Ohio State a Top Target

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GallowayGambleGinnWAR7's picture

Haskins staying? Martell, Baldwin, Mathis & Miller means he ain’t looking at Ohio State, correct?

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I would certainly not make that assumption.

PhillyNut's picture

Kevin, I thought the SEC teams could still control where a player transfers to unless they are a grad transfer or if they are on a team facing a bowl ban?

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Colortv1967's picture

There are other reasons that would be above a block. There was a good article on DawgNation that addressed these circumstances.

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Ohiostate1957's picture

I think that is just within the conference

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

They would block anyone on their upcoming schedules I believe

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erniefurgler's picture

Didn't Auburn block Antwaun Jackson from transferring to OSU when he originally left Auburn?  Had to go the JUCO route, then settled in Columbus

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orlbuckeye's picture

Yes but the rules changed last year.

Jake Blazsek

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Kevin Harrish's picture

1) I talked about this in the skully today, but if he's using the October incident when a baseball player used a racial slur at him as a reason why he's leaving, I don't think Georgia will try to push back.

2) I believe the rules have changed and they can only block a transfer to an in-conference team.

Buck68's picture

Kevin - do 11W staffers discuss the 'fit' and/or comparisons between those who 'use...incidents' for legalistic justification... and those who give/keep their word... like Paris Johnson expressed when he committed?

because as we see... 'rules change'..., while in any kind of whether... all the usual stuff... 'keeps happening'.

Look at that phrase "push back"!  No wonder we 'have' more and more 'pushing'... and more and more 'epidemics' and 'bullying' and 'saying the latest official worty dirds' !   Geez... all the kids do it!  [looks out his window at his little playground].

Having encountered situations in coaching and leading and following for a few decades... i'm prejudiced by experience.  I usually choose to stay away from the popular superstar who's a talented manipulator for his purposes.  And that's a judgment call... always challenging, with insufficient information, and a too soon deadline.  Given a personal choice - mission and team come 1 and 1A IMO.

Any Moderator or Staffer or website owner encounters similar challenges.  Interested in your thoughts, your perspectives.

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

More than likely Fields would have to sit out the 2019 season anyways

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buckme's picture

Logged in just to upvote your comment MMM. I think Martell is going to kill it next year. 

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Bukirob's picture

The Blade article seems to suggest he won't have to wait.  They think he has a good case and the kids family have hired an attorney who has won cases like this involving eligibility  Was Pattersons attorney  and Shea was granted immediate eligibility 

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Sphinx8751's picture

Patterson used the mess at Ole Miss as his excuse to play immediately. I'm not aware of a similar mess at UGA.

Georgia Buckeye marooned in SEC country.

 

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BillyMadison's picture

There was a racist incident. A student, might have been a baseball player, was dismissed from the school shortly thereafter.

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Extramedium's picture

It doesn't have to be the exact same circumstances as the previous example. There just needs to be A circumstance, and there is one.

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orlbuckeye's picture

I'm hearing he has the same lawyer as Patterson.

Jake Blazsek

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

What did you see out of Martell this year that would make Justin Fields afraid of winning a starting job here?

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ashtabulassassin's picture

I'm guessing it is the 174.6 QB rating and the 82.1% completion rate. Perhaps also the fact that no team has ever lost a game where he has played for them... but other than that... yeah not much... at least except for his several years in the system already and taking of dwayne haskins the best throwing qb of all OSU time to a long QB battle that basically didn't end until the season started...but other than those... not nearly as much

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GunnerBuck's picture

Your whole argument is irrelevant outside of Tate being in the program multiple years.

The QBR and Comp Rate is a bullshit reason, IMO. He threw the ball sub 30 times and all against very, very weak comp in mop up duty.

His HS record doesnt matter in college or anywhere else outside of HS. 

Not to mention there was no QB battle. Tate was 3rd string by a long distance before Burrow transferred to LSU and even after he transferred there was no battle to be had. Haskins got 100% of first team reps from the get go. 

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kmp10's picture

Okay, and what have we seen from Fields, other than he's the '8th highest rated high school recruit' in 247 history, that would make anyone believe he could beat out Martell? Their college passing statistics, both with very limited attempts, are essentially the same, but if you want to pick nits, Martell's stats are better. They were both otherworldly high school quarterbacks, that's undeniable, and both have very limited college football exposure. Martell does have a big head start in the program and the offense, and he waited his turn... he didn't pout and leave when he saw he couldn't beat out Barrett and then Haskins, which is, quite honestly, more than we can say for Fields. Is it that Fields is 6'4"? What have we seen from Justin Fields that would lead anyone to believe he would be out Martell? Maybe he could, I don't know, but what are the arguments for Fields based upon?

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Extramedium's picture

Obviously Fields thinks he can beat out Martell, and that's all that matters.  I'm sure he doesn't give a rat's ass if we think we can beat him or not.

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thedewman10's picture

So if Fields says he is coming, Maretell transfers just because he can and even Baldwin for that matter, and Mathis flips. Maybe even to Penn State or TTUN. Then Fields comes up here and is not all that. What then? You know OSU told all of these guys they were the cats meow for the signing period they were in. It’s just a risk reward chance that seems way to risky. Thoughts?

TheDewMan10

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stuckupnorth's picture

Spot on. People want to love Tate. It’s ok to have a favorite. Folks however have to take the fandom out of making logical points. It was the same with JT. People loved him and would downvote you into oblivion if you said he wasn’t that good. Same with Joe B and Weber. After PSU game people were acting like JT was a first or second round pick on this board. People also liked Joe B and would not look at the fact that Haskins was first of the bench not Joe B when it mattered. They believe the coach speak about it being close. Haskins started joe b transferred. Look at what each did. Then look at what Joe B did against what most on this board would call a weak SEC schedule. The same with Weber. People loved him. They said he did this and that as a freshman. Then Dobbins killed it. However their aligance was to Weber. People just want hero’s. 

You are correct high school don’t matter. There are a lot of schools that don’t lose or barely lose once in a blue moon. They also have rosters with college all Americans on it. Being from a winning school means you played on some great teams. Yes it helps set a standard of winning. However it does not qualify you to dominate. 

Also agreed about the stats. People on this board love them some meaningless stats against inferior teams to love their QB. The same argument was for JT. Tate has done absolutely nothing as far as being a QB to be excited about. He ran a wildcat and threw a couple passes when it didn’t matter against overmatched teams in blowouts.Dude could be a great player. I hope he is. But the unwarranted love is crazy.

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iantrevor's picture

I really thought Joe B meant Joe Bauserman. I couldn't figure out why we were dredging up 2011 arguments when Braxton was clearly the better QB. 

Joe Burrow makes much more sense.

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stuckupnorth's picture

Man I literally laughed out loud. Saying joe bauserman. Made me shiver. You made my day. Side note Braxton Miller was a monster. I wished he never got hurt. He had all the potential in the world for that offense. I bet he throws against Michigan. I can feel it. The staff is saving it.

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CincyOSU's picture

Tate has done absolutely nothing as far as being a QB to be excited about. He ran a wildcat and threw a couple passes when it didn’t matter against overmatched teams in blowouts.Dude could be a great player. I hope he is. But the unwarranted love is crazy.

The same reason people LOVED Haskins coming into the year was how he looked in the spring game and in mop up duty, other than 1 half of a game against Michigan. We are now doing the same thing with Fields, who doesn't even play here, and Baldwin, who NONE of us have seen throw a ball. Yet, we refuse to extend this same courtesy to Tate and instead act like he's some MAC level QB. Do people forget, just like Fields, he was a very highly rated QB prospect as well.

People also liked Joe B and would not look at the fact that Haskins was first of the bench not Joe B when it mattered.

That's because Joe got hurt. He beat out Haskins going into the season. I'm not saying I think he was better, or that I wanted him to win the starting job, only that this statement is only partially true.

The same with Weber. People loved him. They said he did this and that as a freshman. Then Dobbins killed it. However their aligance was to Weber. People just want hero’s. 

I'm not sure why you brought this up, Weber is AT LEAST as good, if not better, than Dobbins.

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stuckupnorth's picture

People were excited about Haskins because he came in against Michigan when the team was doing nothing on offense. He came in and gave the team life and led them to victory throwing passes OSU had not seen in a while. That is why people were excited about him. If Joe had beat him out going into season I have a feeling that it would have stayed that way. We can blame the hand all we want and the lack of reps. Or coach speak. But neither of them got meaningful snaps all season. Then when money was on the line it was Haskins. As proven he is a superior player.

We can disagree till we r blur in the face. Haskins was the clear number #2 regardless of what coaches said. Hand injury or not. When the chips were on the table coaches went with Haskins. 

Haskins is a superior player. He put up way better numbers(which aren’t the end all) he is the reason OSU was not a middle of the pack team. Joey B didn’t do a whole lot even considering his “weak SEC” schedule. 

Weber is not on same level as Dobbins. Numbers may be similar or Weber’s might be better I don’t know. I do know one thing Dobbins makes more people miss has better hands ( I know I know Weber is a better blocker I always hear it).To me that is just not true and an easy thing to say. Dobbins will be drafted higher. Ain’t no question about it. Weber has better stamina. Dobbins has better quicks, breaks more tackles, runs lower, better balance, more of a home run threat. He lacks elite top end speed but I think that is more stamina than anything. Dobbins has way better hands. When can argue all day. At the end of the day Weber is a good player. He is not elite. Dobbins has elite traits. Dobbins will go higher in the draft. Weber will be 3-5 round guy Dobbins a 2-3 round guy. If he improves stamina he could push late 1st early second. That’s a slight stretch but not out of realm.

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Extramedium's picture

Weber is not as shifty, but he doesn’t get caught from behind.  When he gets a lane, he’s gone.  Dobbins runs 20 yards and runs out of gas. They are different backs with different skill sets.  

Also you don’t need an apostrophe to pluralize heroes.

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stuckupnorth's picture

iPhone autocorrect. Not sweating it thanks.

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jmagersobregon's picture

Totally agree. Weber is a one cut zone runner and has breakaway speed. With the right team he will excel. Maybe a slightly smaller Fred Taylor? 

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andretolstoy's picture

Haskins is an elite QB. But Joe Burrow was playing for much a less talented team at LSU. He threw for 2,500 yards and 12 TDs. He accounted for sex TDs against Texas A&M. That loss, or any of them, weren't on him. 

Let's not go crazy here in our love for Haskins. Joe Burrow is a darn good QB, and would have probably the same record had he stayed. In fact, we may have actually given Purdue a better game with a more versatile QB in Burrow. 

What's up with Chris Chugunov?

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TigerSweat's picture

Where can I score some of those sex TD's?

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Abuckeye15's picture

If Siri typed that, she has a dirty mind...

36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"

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Knite's picture

lol  had to laugh at that one:)

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

i think that increases the risk for STD's.

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andretolstoy's picture

Hilarious 

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stuckupnorth's picture

If burrow did better than 470 yards and two tds with a pick. I guess I would tip my cap to him. You would think that would be enough to win a game. Also had victor not help out the cause in the end zone twice. As far as being more versatile that’s what all Americans running backs and o line are for.

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GunnerBuck's picture

Let’s be clear, Haskins is on a whole different spectrum than Burrow. That is obvious. Regardless of the talent disparity between the two teams. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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andretolstoy's picture

This is true. But as silly as this sounds, sometimes the hybrid QBs are more successful in the college game, while the elite guys like Haskins are just made for the NFL. 

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TXNut2488's picture

Ummm they lost to UF because Burrow was terrible...and then he couldn't score against Bama (not that that is anything crazy but still)

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Those people are only going to be emboldened by Haskin’s year after he threw only forty some passes last year.  Some of us have been around long enough to see untested guys like that wash out.  Some have not.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Bolt's picture

I don't think it's irrelevant given a lot of peoples' attitude toward Tate on here for whatever reason. He might have did what he did against not good defenses, but he wasn't only playing mop up duty (technically the entire game in some of these early games is mop up duty). They were bringing him in for a series or two in the middle of the early games and his passing stats were on par with Dwayne's in those games sans the volume. Rutgers game for instance. Dwayne was great and Martell was literally flawless against the same competition...and Tate was playing early in that game. Not saying Tate is on Dwayne's level as a passer or anything, but I don't really get why people are so dismissive of or opposed to him and act like he's Joe Bauserman based on what they've seen so far.

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TigerSweat's picture

I agree that Tate's numbers looked great against Rutgers. The stats don't show the actual arm strength, anticipation and mechanics though. We all have eyes and have seen that there may be issues against decent defenses that have actually game planned for Tate. I could be wrong and he could very well turn out to be a tremendous passer but as of now I don't see it.

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Bolt's picture

He might not read a defense as dangerously as a pure pocket QB, but he does add his own element of danger with his legs to help keep defenses honest, if not having to spare a pass rusher or extra man in coverage to spy him if he's effective enough scrambling. And I see an option game with Tate and JK as being a big revitalization into the run game and JK could have a huge year. I'm not saying Tate should be the starter, strictly because I haven't seen any of the other QBs throw a single pass at this level (didn't watch any of Fields) and who knows what they can bring. But Tate looked sharp enough to me throwing the ball and could be a major weapon with his legs and could be a big boost to the bread and butter option run game. Any one of these guys is going to have to take some major steps, will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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ashtabulassassin's picture

re: DH getting 100% of first team reps and Tate being a distant third: Except that didn't happen... Tate also got first team reps all year. And also it was just forum people saying tate was 3rd... Meyer was the one who kept correcting everyone and saying tate was in it. Not to mention even after having a heisman level QB by end of season Meyer still said he wants Tate in the game.

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CTownBucknut's picture

Frankly I don't get this entire debate?  Don't we all just want the best QB possible for our Buckeyes?  If they can get Fields, this is a good thing, whether you are really high on Tate or not.  Bring in one of the most highly touted HS QB's ever, let him battle it out against another extremely highly touted HS QB, and let the best man win.  This would only bring out the best in both guys, and we can all rest assured whoever wins that battle is a stud.  If that ultimately resulted in Fields beating out Tate, I would feel bad for Tate, as he's waiting his turn, but at risk of sounding cold, that's how it goes.  If Fields came here and Tate beat him out, fantastic, and then Fields would have another decision on his hands.  Selfishly, I want as many talented players here as possible to compete.  At the end of the day, none of us know who is a better college QB given the small sample sizes of both, but I'd sure love to find out. 

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Extramedium's picture

Thank you.. let them compete and let Day pick the best QB.  Tate isn’t rooting for you at your job. 

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script-ohio's picture

Yeah, I don't get why people are resisting the idea that Fields doesn't have much to fear here and views Ohio State as a place he could step in and start.  He views himself as an elite QB, and however good anyone feels about our QB room, nobody in it has proven all that much on the field.  It doesn't matter that Fields hasn't, too, he doesn't need to prove anything to himself.  Tate or anyone else might feel the same way about themselves.  Frankly we have no idea idea who'd win a QB competition but it's still true that Fields doesn't have much reason to be anything but fully confident he could win the job here.

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GunnerBuck's picture

Tate was not taking first team reps from Haskins, that's foolish to think outside of package plays. Sure he was Tate in the game... to run the ball... until it didnt work and they stopped using him. There was considerable distance between Tate and Haskins. If there wasnt, why didnt they put Tate in to throw the ball instead of running the same running play over and over and over again. 

Meyer was giving lip service to Tate just like he always did. Believe what ever you'd like but also remember Meyer was saying JT was the best QB on the team last year countless times and rarely praised Haskins this year or even hyped him up as the Heisman contender he was. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Blue - What did you see out of Fields that makes you believe he could beat out Martell?

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TigerSweat's picture

Personally, I haven't really seen fields throw yet. I do know, however, that Day is more of an air raid guy and he is likely wanting the best passer he can possibly get to run his offense. Tate was recruited for Urbans offense but Urban isn't going to be here anymore. I'm good with Tate, Baldwin, Fields or whoever as long as they're what is needed to power Day's passing attack.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Tiger - That is my opinion as well. I have no dog in the fight, let Fields come aboard, and let the best man win. 

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

I think Martell is a fine QB but I think Fields is clearly a step above him in talent. So the hot take of "oh Fields won't come here because of Martell" I think is msguided. I don't think Fields worries any more about Martell beating him for a job than [insert generic 2nd string QB else].

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NapervilleBuck's picture

Blue - What have you seen out of Justin Fields that would make Tate Martell afraid of winning the starting job here?

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BuckeyeLion's picture

Fields and Haskins are good friends. Perhaps Haskins is signalling to Fields that he's coming back for one more year and Field's could learn with him as Fields sits out the year?

In the poll era (since 1936), OSU is by far the class of the B1G:
National Titles: OSU 8, UM 3
B1G Titles: OSU 33, UM 27
Head-to-head: OSU 42, UM 36
Major Bowls (New Year's Six): OSU 20-14, UM 10-16

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Justin ipple's picture

That's a reach, lion, And I LOVE IT!

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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seyekcuB's picture

I heard they are going to dig up Johnny Unitas for next year.

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Red Shirt Ensign's picture

I'd settle for Johnny Utah!

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seyekcuB's picture

Dude can surf but that knee is a liability.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

How about Shane Falco? There’re no scabs on him!

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seyekcuB's picture

I hear Joe Flaco is available

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45has2's picture

Only if his cheerleader gf brings her crew to Cbus.

Censores irrumasti.

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Bucks19's picture

Haskins is not coming back. Day needs to take both feet and push him out the door. 

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cuttyrock's picture

Why not come back? Another year would actually be beneficial. He did great but some people are not pro ready. The NFL is not a developmental leagur for picks that high. Another yesr and more game reps.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Another year learning your trade at 21-22 will nearly always translate to improvement. The thing is, he can either do it as while getting paid millions in guaranteed money at the top level, or as an amateur and risk injury and that pay day.

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Red Shirt Ensign's picture

And a chance NOT to go to the Raiders!

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OSUandUofMGrad's picture

Why not come back? Well the line and most receivers AREN'T coming back, so if there are predictable growing pains and the offense goes backwards, it could be a very bad and expensive business decision.

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MDBuckeye23's picture

IF Jordan comes back, I think our offense could be even better next year with Haskins at the helm. Got to assume Myers, Davis, Munford, NPF and Jordan are the starters. That's a whole lot of talent with time to gel together as we don't have a big game early. Mack, Wilson, Victor, Dobbins, Ruckert, and McCall/Gill look down right scary on paper too. 

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Bukirob's picture

I cant even possibly see a reason why Jordan would for a second think he is ready for the NFL.

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seyekcuB's picture

OSU doesn't rebuild. They reload.

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Extramedium's picture

I love how the entire money argument is always based on a signing bonus, or early pick status, and never on potential career longevity and success.  If he goes too early and gets a big check, that’s great, but I’m sure he’d rather get a smaller check initially if it means he plays in the league as long as, and with similar success to a Tom Brady, (who was lucky to be drafted in the first place.)

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I'm not going to argue what he should do, but I'd be shocked if he returned to school next year.

tcm1968's picture

I felt like that after the Michigan game.... but sort of leaning the other way now. It's just a really odd draft because so many teams needed QBs last year and took QBs and now those same teams are picking in the top 10 again.  6 of the top 10 picks aren't taking QBs. The Raiders are gearing up for their move to Vegas and don't want that pick so that leaves the Jags, Bucs and Giants. Unless Jags change their front office or coach Haskins doesn't really fit there... Giants apparently like Haskins but not in the top 10. They want to trade back because they would want him to sit an learn from Eli.. Bucs would have to move on from Jameis... And Giants, Bucs and Jags are in win now mode. Wether they should be or not is debatable but this isn't Buffalo or the Jets or Browns that were in rebuild mode...

Then you get to that sweet spot in the 10-15 range where a bunch of teams could grab Haskins.....

But then it's about $$$$$... leave and get drafted 10-15 or come back and get drafted 1-5 and make a LOT MORE money....

As I said... odd year..

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Oh I understand the reason why he could choose to stay. I'm just not sure that conversation matters a whole lot at this point.

stuckupnorth's picture

Haskins at worst is a 1st round pick. Who says he ain’t pro ready? Just because he has a couple things(like any other QBs does).Is he perfect not even close. But to say he is not pro ready is off base. Yes high draft picks do set. Most of the time not very long but they do. Pat Mahomes sat. Goff sat, Aaron Rodgers sat, Tom brady(I know 6th round) sat. I know these are exceptions to the rule. Not sure if Wentz sat or not. However he will learn more in a month at NFL level about playing NFL QB than he will with another season of college football. Where most of the games are blowouts handing ball off. Haskins is ready. If he decides to go he will be one of the first QB taken and a first rounder. He may fizzle. However the college argument for more reps will not stop him from being drafted high.

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Bukirob's picture

Haskins from every mock board Ive seen is outside the top `10 picks.  As a rookie doesnt matter if you are taken as the first pick overall or the last guy at the end of round two.  They ALL have the same SALARY.  It's about your signing bonus.  The gap last years draft between #1 and #7 was $10,000,000.00  That is the ONLY part of your deal that is guaranteed. If Dwayne is picked around #10 that will cost another 4-5 million dollars.  So returning is ALL about if you think you can improve.  If you do you are looking at MILLIONS more

If Dwayne returned and has even close to the year he has had this season he will win the Heisman and be drafted #1 overall.

So the real question is this... is it worth it to return for another 10 million?

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Northbrook's picture

No the real question involves substantial downside risk too.

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TigerSweat's picture

Haskins will be the first or second QB taken and that will be a top 8 pick. Just wait until he throws at the combine and works his way into a top 3 pick. I predicted Bosa at #1 and D at #2 since September and I'm riding with it.

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tcm1968's picture

The are VERY realistic scenarios where he goes in the 10-14 range if he comes out early. If he comes back and takes the next step you could be talking Heisman trophy and first overall pick. Could be the difference in making $14M or $34M..

And while I tend to think the Heisman is just an award simply winning it comes with a TON of promotion and $$$$$$$ in endorsements.

He'd be betting on himself.. $20M more guaranteed ( potentially) and everything that comes with the Heisman... 

Go Bucks!

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seyekcuB's picture

Bird in the hand. He is gone. I cant believe there are people even questioning this? Hes a 1st rounder. Probably early very early. Martell will do well. Fields would add alot of depth.

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tcm1968's picture

I'd argue the other way... He can make a LOT more money waiting a year. The kid loves football. Just about every NFL person has said he sits next year. He waits a year and he plays day 1 in the NFL and probably makes WAY more money. Win the Heisman and WAY more money. And when I hear his Dad say football isn't everything school is important and you only get once chance to be a kid in college it makes me at least pause and think maybe..

You add all of that to the report he asked Weber to come back next year.....

I can't believe some people don't think coming back is an option..

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45has2's picture

And while he sits he gets paid. That money, if given up, is never recouped.

Censores irrumasti.

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stuckupnorth's picture

People keep talking about money in this. Winning the heisman is not gonna make him more money than getting drafted earlier and giving up millions next year. Nissan ain’t paying those guys 10million a year. He would have stiff competition next year for number 1 overall.Way more than this year way more.Also talking about money. He could get hurt. Those little policies don’t cover the long term value of a player. Jaylon Smith in theory lost a ton of money. He will never be the player he once was. So his second third and so contracts will not pay him what he could be worth. So in that aspect an injury can be a 100 million dollar swing. Second inflation is a huge thing to consider here. If inflation is 2-3% that lowers it right there. I’ve seen many peg him to Jacksonville. Which I believe would be top ten in a tax friendly state. Or if he waited he could end up in Oakland and pay California taxes. Plus factor in the lost term value of lost time in investments. In all reality he could take a big pay cut coming back even if he went a few spots higher. He is already pegged to be a top 10 maybe 15 pick. He is not gonna improve that. He would be in same range next year with an even more crowded class. Factor in also that teams are licking their chops for Trevor Lawrence the year after and could forgo a QB in hopes of tanking to land him.

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WestSideTower'79's picture

If you don't think the Heisman adds a couple hundred grand to your annual gross for the rest of your life, go get some counseling. Preferably the financial kind. Also, the difference between  rookie contract for a 1 thru 5 pick is many millions more than for a 10-15 pick. Even if he wiped out a knee playing for the Buckeyes next year and slid to the 2nd round, that's not as big a fall from 10-15 money as 10-15 is from 1-5. And, regardless, he could wipe out a knee in rookie camp and whatever contract he's on, there's next to nothing guaranteed in them.

I'm just thinking that the Haskins family was in a fortunate enough financial position when he was 11 to put him into a camp at tOSU while they were living in NJ, so it's not like they need to have Dwayne get them moved out of some ramshackle house in the middle of BFE. I'm sure that they've raised a great kid, they're going to talk it over with him and let HIM decide. If he wants to get his degree, learn more about QBing from a great QB coach, hang with his brothers and chase Heismans or Natties, then that's what they will let him do.  And if he decides to surrender control, get picked by a team that may or may not be able to nurture, protect, utilize, develop or even have much interest in him personally, then they will support him in that, too..

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stuckupnorth's picture

Counseling really. The amount that he gives up by staying a year in another year. He would never be able to recoup that in heisman endorsements. Maybe you should look into the power of compound interest before you make such a bold claim. That was way off line. I stated in another post. If he went this year and received 10,000,000 and invested that in Coca Cola. Saying Coke never raises their dividends or stock price does not go up(which is absurd to think). He invests that he would receive roughly 234000a year. Do you think the heisman is worth that a year for the rest of his life. Now factor in dividends being raised and then add the big boy of reinventing the dividends into more shares. Add those numbers up and tell me who needs counseling? 

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Bukirob's picture

You CLEARLY don't understand how the Rookie contract works.

Every player as a rookie basically has the SAME CONTRACT.  The #1 overall pick gets paid the same amount in salary as the last guy taken at the end of round two.  Rookie contracts are ALL about the signing bonus.  The guy you are saying is wrong is right YOU are the one who is wrong here.

The difference between waiting 1 year is a 500,000 salary.  As for your suggestion... anyone who would advise putting 10,000,00 doesn't have the first clue as to what they are doing.  But, lets just set that aside, if he did as you suggest, he is looking at ~240,000.00 in dividend interest after tax.

So, now,  Is it a better deal to wait one year and 750,000.00 you are giving up for an additional 10,000,000.00?

The NFL tells you the average length of a QB career is 4.4  For a first rounder it's 9.3 So he has decent odds of getting a second contract but unless he is a star the numbers particularly the guaranteed portion is going to be relatively small.

And finally, you are completely daft if you think that Haskins with a second year close to what he did this year doesn't put him #1 overall.  Haskins #1 in the nation for passing yards, #4 in passing eff, #1 passing touchdowns  

If he duplicates that NO ONE will be taken in front of him NO ONE!

You WIN with people.

 

 

WW Hayes

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stuckupnorth's picture

Rookies don’t all make the same. Whether it’s a signing bonus or salary it doesn’t matter. If we want to be technical. The total compensation. I get it. Some CEOs work for a salary of a dollar a year, but stock options of 17 million. So yeah I guess their “salary” is a dollar.

You do realize that dividends of 240,000 is paid every year right. You also realize if he reinvests that right back into stock he would compound that. He would get the 240 every year for the rest of his life. Plus like said if he reinvested that back into more shares. It is a drip investments. The 240,000 would by 4800 more shares. Which by themselves would add 7500 dollars to year two alone plus the 240,000.Go 20 years with those numbers compounding like that and tell me what you get. Also coke has been going up roughly .02 /share lately. All that said coke is just an example. I’m not saying it’s the end all. Although it did work out for warren buffet. The stock market has averaged like 8% since inception I believe if you wanna calculate that out. I’m anxious to see what you come up with. Tomorrow I will have more time where I can write things down. We can see how long it would take to recoup roughly 10,000,000 dollars by staying an extra year. You give your numbers than I will give mine. Remember even at a 3% yield return on lowly Coca Cola it is paid every year. No I wouldn’t recommend anyone putting 10mil into coke. It’s an example that most are familiar with. But now I will do the leg work to see what 10mil invested in Coca Cola would look like in a drip account. 

Factor in that capital gain taxes are 20% I believe and income tax is around 37. Can’t wait to see your numbers. Yes I know my punctuation is wrong and spelling is poor. My bad.

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stuckupnorth's picture

Man those facts get in the way don’t it clutch. I get that you don’t agree with me on my views. This is second post you commented on of mine. If you don’t want to take part in the discussion that’s fine. But writing just stop. What’s the point. On another post I said Haskins threw for 470 2 tds and a pick against Purdue. If burrow could do better than that I would tip my cap to him. You wrote delusional post. 

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CTownBucknut's picture

Here's the thing, if he's viewed as the top QB in the draft, or one of the top 2, he will ultimately get picked a lot higher than mid to late first.  It doesn't matter who picks where, because a QB needy team will move up to get him, and several teams picking high who already have their QB will be more than willing to stockpile picks to move down.  Then, you have to factor in the quality of the draft.  I believe this year is shaping up as a mediocre QB class, while next year shapes up much better.  So he has the opportunity to be perhaps the top QB drafted right now.  Lastly, it seems more times than not that when a QB is projected to be picked high, and decides to stay in school, it backfires.  Don't get me wrong, I would love if Haskins decided to stay, but in my opinion there are far more reasons why staying isn't his best choice.  

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costinjr's picture

I'm with ya, Seyekcu. People are making pretty outrageous claims like they've had experience choosing to turn down $10+ million. The smart move, for so many reasons, is for him to go.

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Bukirob's picture

You CLEARLY do not know how much money is at risk.  Baker Mayfield's signing bonus was $21,849,440.00  the BOTTOM of round 1 got  $4,968,471.00   The EARLIEST I've seen Haskins tabbed to go is at #7 which coincidentally had a quarterback taken last year at that spot as well.  Signing bonus for that player was  $4,968,471  Haskins most OFTEN shows up between 12-15 in round 1  Falling just that far will cost you a cool 5 million dollars.

The question then is very simple.  Do you think he can show further growth as a QB and have a similar year as this year?  If yes then you return because of your trading a year 1 salary which is about 500,000.00 for a 21-21 million dollar signing bonus.  The pure math says return. 

OSU would be more than willing to take out an insurance policy on Dwanye for Career ending injury so you are removing that obstacle from the discussion.   Keep in mind, that the average career length of an NFL QB is only 4.4 years.  That said, the average length of a first round pick is 9.3 years so you have an about 50/50 shot of getting a second contract.

To me, the numbers really argue returning if you are reasonably sure you can improve your stock. The odds are not in your favor of getting a second contract and even if you do UNLESS you've become a star your not getting a huge signing bonus.  That's why you really need to be honest about where you are projected to be drafted and can you reasonably expect that by returning you are the #1 QB taken?

If he has a second year even remotely close to this season he will go #1 overall.

You WIN with people.

 

 

WW Hayes

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

I recently saw him slotted as the third pick to the Raiders.  If NFL teams don't think his talent is any better than a mid first round pick this year they aren't likely to draft him higher next year with more top QB's on the board.  There is not much more he could do next season to improve on what he's already done but there is a lot of room to not do as well.  It is his decision, but if you want to talk about risk than your talking about going now. If there was a guarantee waiting would move him significantly higher in the draft than you could talk about the potential dollar cost of going too early, but no such guarantee exists.  Therefore the risk is in not going this season.

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WorthyBuck's picture

He could also come back and get injured or have a lesser year for a new coach with new WRs and a new OL and fall out of the first round altogether in a QB class that will be stronger next year.  Right now he is at worst the #2 QB in this class.  

Also, the NFLwill not care if you win the Heisman.  That would not earn him any more money. 

He will be a top 15 pick this year, maybe top 10.  There is not a lot of room to move up.  Next uear’s QB class is stronger than this year’s, so any dip could cause Haskins to dip and cost him money.  

And an injury could cost him huge. 

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Colortv1967's picture

If you get him, treat him Right. He definitely get not get proper treatment by Smart and his merry Georgia band. Don’t lie to him. He has had enough of that. )

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

It would be more likely Haskins is telling him he is not coming back and the job next season is up for grabs.

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BuckeyeLion's picture

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In the poll era (since 1936), OSU is by far the class of the B1G:
National Titles: OSU 8, UM 3
B1G Titles: OSU 33, UM 27
Head-to-head: OSU 42, UM 36
Major Bowls (New Year's Six): OSU 20-14, UM 10-16

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Buck298's picture

tl;dr

Send the Earth Reverberating

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Tresselball4life's picture

He transfers,  Mathis and Miller are gone.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Why would Miller be gone?  Miller most likely would see the field starting in his second year.  So Fields  could start in 2020 & 2021 and Miller in 2022 & 2023.  

Miller would arrive on campus for the 2021 season. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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mrgreenpants's picture

Haskins staying?

...for  second there i that y'all were serious

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Patriot4098's picture

Kid jumped to Georgia knowing that Jake Fromm was already doing the thing.  Now he transfers when Jake Fromm continues to do his thing?  So he’s going to sit out a year and learn a new system when he could just stick with UGA and play after Fromm gets drafted next year.  And it’s not like they weren’t using him down in Athens either.  I just do not understand this choice at all.

"Evil shenanigans!"     - Mac

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GallowayGambleGinnWAR7's picture

It’s pure speculation unless a fellow buckeye has the scoop. We’ll have to enjoy the suspense. I hope Cox leaves, too. Ohio State got played by Garrison Hearst in ‘92. They haven’t had a rematch since.

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I was told Saturday that Fields was transferring to Ohio state.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

I’d heard that OSU was looking for a graduate transfer @ QB.

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c92996p's picture

To be fair, Fields would have just watched Fromm do the same thing to Eason and probably thought it was entirely possible to replicate.

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I think you've hit on all the reasons why this would be a strange decision. But it's possible he has issues with Georgia that aren't related to having to wait behind Fromm.

I don't believe he did anything in his small amount of playing time to show that recruiting gurus were wrong about him.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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Patriot4098's picture

You could be right about that.  I did assume it was all about playing time, and that might not be the story at all.  

"Evil shenanigans!"     - Mac

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LB U's picture

Word is that the NCAA would grant him immediate eligibility due to the racial slur he was called earlier in the year.

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Buck298's picture

Well then he isn't coming here then, because we all know that OSU is a hot bed of racism, at least that's what McMurphy said...

And this is sarcasm for those that didn't get it or don't know about the intentions of our dear team friend, Bert McMurphy. 

Send the Earth Reverberating

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Bucks19's picture

You nor any of us knows what’s going on off the field. It’s noy always about on the field 

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teddyballgame's picture

You nor any of us knows what’s going on off the field.

I'm not sure how you know what others may or may not know

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CTownBucknut's picture

"I'm not sure how you know what others may or may not know"

Yes, but then how do you know that he doesn't know what others may or may not know?  

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Patriot4098's picture

I’ll give you that.  

"Evil shenanigans!"     - Mac

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brutus0717's picture

Millenials.

But seriously, I wonder what the reason is. We won't know at least until he transfers, but we may never know. Inquiring minds want to know. 

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Arsenal7's picture

he was called the n word by some UGA fans at a game about a month back, maybe that contributed

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

It was a drunken baseball player at the Tennessee game.  The guy actually called Fields a N while yelling that Fields should be playing instead of Fromm.  The guy personally apologized to Fields about it and then was kicked off the baseball team.  No idea if that is playing a role in his transferring but I doubt it.  He came here to win the job from Fromm and he didn’t.  Furthermore, everyone here believes he was not properly utilized this season, which may have also played a factor in his decision.  Unless something drastically changes in the next two weeks he is transferring.  I heard about this from the people who know everything a few days ago.  He was transferring to Ohio State.  There was never any mention of FSU or Oklahoma.  Maybe things will change... but right now I think he’s transferring to Ohio state.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Trolls through a Monday night *

IMADELOUSYPICKS

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Screen name nobody has ever seen before posting on this subject with insider knowledge? Um yeah ok (Jennifer Lawrence gif)

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I don’t care if you believe me.  I’m not making this up.  I have had an account for at least a few years but I have never posted until now because I generally don’t care.

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gbgasser's picture

I lived in Athens 33 years, been in CBus since July 2017.

Where in Athens do u live and what do u do there ?  I was at Piedmont Athens Regional

Go Bucks

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I live in Watkinsville

Work from home.  Wife is Professor

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

In the event that you’re getting me i’ll be more specific...

I live in one of the subdivisions off of danielsville rd.  To get there you get off the loop at 316.  We call the outer belt the loop here.  Then you take the Oconee connector about 500 yards until you get to the light at Daniels bridge.  There’s a quick trip on the corner.

is that good enough?

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gbgasser's picture

Know exactly where you speak

i lived off Jennings Mill Rd in subdivision of Kingswood 

Go Bucks

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gbgasser's picture

I bet we have some common acquaintances.

I knew a couple other big Buckeye fans in Athens.  Two worked at Athens Regional, another was a mortgage broker who was married to a friends daughter. 

How long you been in Athens?

Go Bucks

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I’ve been here Almost a decade.  I’m sure we have mutual acquaintances.  I’m trying to figure out who the mortgage broker is.  

There are a surprisingly high number of Ohio State people around here.  

There’s also a Harbaugh living in town.  

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gbgasser's picture

The mortgage broker used to call in to Danzlers radio show years ago. He went by the moniker Buckeye Brett.   I met him and realized I was friends with his in laws.

Go Bucks

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huffdaddy's picture

The most important thing is: we want to believe you. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Northbrook's picture

Athens GA Buckeye could be telling the truth or he could be somebody trying to mess with us and our recruits. I have no idea which but I'm enjoying the show.

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Northbrook's picture

It looks like Mathis has been messed with.

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vroomery's picture

I don't now if it matters, but I've got a connection at his old HS who says they've been a go between for Ryan Day until Fields officially requests to transfer. We're at least in the conversation in a legitimate way.

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chris's picture

He's too young to be a millennial... lol, I bet that makes ya feel old...

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Silver Sniper's picture

Was going to say the same. They’re called Gen Z. Basically, possessing the traits of Millennials times 2.

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Buckifan4Life's picture

Sooooo, snowflake x 10 then? JK, of course...

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Sampson8080's picture

So the selfishness of a Baby Boomer divided by 3?

/proud Gen X'er

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brutus0717's picture

The people who coined the term millennial define the generation as being born between 1982-2004. Pretty sure Fields fits that category, unless he's the Doogie Howser of CFB. Oh shit, is that reference too old for you?

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Fear The Elf's picture

Certainly not everybody defines millenials that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

Some researchers cut the dates off in the mid 90s. I think that's more accurate, because those born closer to or after 2000 had more technology available at a young age.

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Mantis's picture

Millennials and their intolerance for racism.  How dare they! 

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Fear The Elf's picture

And athletes never transferred before millenials started doing it.

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brutus0717's picture

I used italics for millenials but somehow it didn't show up that way. And I assure you I had no idea about the racial slur thrown his way prior to making my comment. Hence the wondering why he would transfer.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Mantis - This has nothing to do with racism. For Ohio State’s sake I hope they can make it about racism so he could play immediately though.

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TheBadOwl's picture

"I handed the ball off good as fuck" is hilarious and makes me want Fields even more.

Between that and Tate Martell's "Nick Starkell is ass, my dude," we could have the all-meme QB team. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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BuckeyeatTSUN's picture

I actually don’t like Fields’ attitude in that clip.  I’m sure Tate felt similar frustration this year and he seems to be taking it in stride.  He has been very supportive of Haskins.  Either win the job or wait your turn but don’t publicly sulk.  

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TampaBuck77's picture

To be fair that wasn’t meant to be public the camera just happened to catch it. I’m sure most players vent frustrations amongst teammates.

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Kangarooman's picture

Not sure if the dude wants guarenteed playing time that this is the place him. He's essentially doing all this because he doesnt want to wait a year. Almost everyone waits at OSU.

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c92996p's picture

I'm thinking he'll end up at Auburn or Miss St, gets to stay close to home and still play for good competition.  Plus Miss St has Moorhead at HC, the guy who got him to originally commit to PSU. 

My pipe dream would be for him to end up at Ga Tech.  He'd be the perfect QB to help Collins transition Ga Tech into a more normal offense and out of that flexbone/wishbone triple option thing that Paul Johnson ran, and he'd get to stay and play close to home.

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c92996p's picture

Or Oklahoma, why not go get that guaranteed Heisman?

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TheDizzle's picture

Or FSU, nothing better then getting sacked 8 times a game. Builds character.

"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin

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iowabuckeyes's picture

But also no competition, which might be a priority if that’s the reason he’s leaving UGA. Interesting that PSU isn’t on the list since he had originally committed to Franklin before he flipped to UGA. Did he and/or Franklin burn that bridge?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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martin anderson's picture

He de-committed from PSU because PSU was too far from home. At least that was the reason he gave. I guess when he committed to PSU he hadn't yet looked at a map

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2morrow's picture

Even if you looked at a map, psu is much further than it looks - especially if you are trying to drive it.

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KBonay's picture

Georgia isn't going to let him transfer within the SEC. 

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thedewman10's picture

I thought if he used the situation with the racial slur he could not be held from going anywhere, including sec schools. Could be wrong. Been wrong before. But don’t tell my wife,

TheDewMan10

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Seattle Linga's picture

Bring it - certainly would make things interesting.

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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thedewman10's picture

Bucks certainly are well stocked at QB. 

What does it mean if he says he is coming to OSU and Haskins says he is coming back. Would Tate leave? I have to say I think he is going to be a good one.

TheDewMan10

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TheDizzle's picture

He won't leave before he graduates, won't be shocked if he loses the job and takes the Joe Burrow route

"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

OSU.  Done deal.  Unless UGA can convince him to stay.  Which they are trying to.  

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TheDizzle's picture

How? He has no ties to Ohio State and coaches can't contact him until he announces his intent to transfer. It's too early to declare anything a "done deal"

"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I believe the connection is that Haskins and Fields share the same personal QB coach. Whether that leads Fields to OSU I haven't a clue.

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LB U's picture

There is a tie though of pretty significant note, Fields and Haskins share the same QB coach, Quincy Avery.. And Quincy Avery is a huge Ryan Day fan.

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I know most of the UGA coaching staff and  administrators.  And the real boosters and lots of former players.  I’m just relaying what I was told.  I never post on these boards because it’s all rumors and whatnot.  If he doesn’t transfer to Ohio State it’s because things have changed in the last 48 hours.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Ok, then out your resource. I'll take the bait. Why do you show up tonight and say so for fact? 0/0

What does most of staff consist of?

Two grad trainers and a homeless guy that you give used socks to?

IMADELOUSYPICKS

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I can’t tell you who told me.  I would have to move.   but there are people in Columbus I told about this a few days ago.  People who go to this site everyday. Maybe one of them is reading this.  If not.. whatever.  I’m not lying and I’m also not interested in defending myself to a bunch of strangers.  When he announces that he’s transferring to OSU you can remember me fondly.

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NHBuckeye's picture

If he transfers to Ohio State you get automatic up votes from me forever!   

I would love to see this happen.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Bucks19's picture

Athens - never mind the idiots who make dumb comments when all you are trying to do is feed info. Never fails some moron wants to know the exact sources. 

Keep the info coming. 

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

Posted this elsewhere but thought I’d tell you direct.  I heard today they now think they’ve convinced him to stay.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

He entered the transfer portal shortly afer 5pm est.

IMADELOUSYPICKS

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

He’s having trouble getting the hardship.  That’s the sticking point.  His sister accepted an athletic scholarship and enrolled here after the incident which is very detrimental to his argument. If he gets the hardship he’s leaving.  If he doesn’t he’s probably gonna stay. Also Georgia was working hard to flip Dwan last night.  

Im going to get caught talking about all this.  No more posts from me...

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TCOB_6's picture

I love the, "You just showed" argument when the account is clearly almost 3 years old. There are lots of people on this board that have had accounts for a long time, but don't post a lot.that doesnt make them any more or less credible, just quiet.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

My apologies ATL. I did not notice that you have been a member her for a few years. I thought you were trolling us. My bad, I deserved all those DVDs lastnite.

IMADELOUSYPICKS

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

I deserved all those DVDs lastnite.

Get any good movies? Personally, I would have opted for Blu-Ray...

Shandy is not beer

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seyekcuB's picture

Like the guy on the poker table that doesnt play alot of hands...people give him respect when he does...doesnt mean he isnt full of shit.

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burger1124's picture

IYHO, do you think Dwan remains with the Dawgs? Prominent recruiting people already speculating o Twitter that this was ill-advised and may not stick (for four years), as he's never even visited Georgia.

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I knew Georgia was flipping Dwan and I said so.  So the where did Dwan sign post was in reply to the guy saying I was a liar or a troll or whatever you guys call it.

 As for Dwan staying (I call him Dwan because I don’t know his last name and I had never heard of him before I got texted by my UGA people yesterday that he was flipping), I don’t care if he comes or goes.

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NoVAsmitty's picture

Is that right?  Hmm.  You've been very careful, but this reply just gave you away.  You seem very plugged in, yet you didn't know Dwan Mathis's last name.  You say you "don't care," yet you established an 11W account in February 2016.  If you don't care, why did you care in February 2016 and why do now care in December 2018?  

You say you work from home and that your wife is an UGA professor.  Why would UGA football insiders text you?  That's a huge tell as to who or what you really are.  Also, your concern that you are going to be discovered by those UGA insiders and so you have to keep your posts cryptic is also a give away.  Why should any of us believe that UGA football insiders have the time or inclination at this time of year (or any time of year) to go to an Ohio State fan blog and not only read articles, but to also sift through the hundreds of comments.  What value would they get from doing so?  I'll tell you.  None.  I'll give you credit, your posts have not be in the nature of the typical "troll.  You are also intelligent enough to put "GA" in your member name, so you know there is also an Athens, Ohio.  Nonetheless, very well played by you

Gentlemen and ladies, the Justin Fields transfer rumors are real.  Smart and the NCAA transfer portal confirm as much, but "ATHENS GA BUCKEYE" is a troll.  I'm sure if any of us looked, we'd find similar fake news on the OU and FSU fan blogs.     

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

That’s fine. Did you know that on Tuesday a very high profile program gave a car to a recruit they were trying to flip.  He didn’t flip.  And he kept the car.  

Troll it up.

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

And thanks for your opinion, detective.

You don’t understand much.  The other guy on this forum from Athens can attest.  Because of the nature of what I do and who I socialize with I was allowed into the circle.  Then after time you just get farther and farther in and start knowing everyone and flying around in peoples planes and wondering how it all came to be like this.  Nobody in the circle talks about shit outside of the circle.  But I know that shit.  And if I get caught talking about that shit...I’m blackballed.

I’m no troll.  You’re the troll.

I created an account a few years ago because I am an Ohio state fan and I had something I wanted to Comment on.  I have no recollection what it was.  There was some sort of waiting period before they approved my account.  By the time it was approved I had lost interest.  

When this Fields thing started, I reset my password so I could log in because I am still an Ohio State fan and I knew stuff.  Stuff that I thought Ohio state people would be excited to hear about.  I risked my place in my community to share it.  And I still know stuff.  More  than anybody else in your entire world who’s willing to talk about.  And I seriously doubt that anybody in the circle is reading this.  But if I started naming names and whatnot, then somebody will find out about it and read this.  And then they’ll know EXACTLY who wrote it.

I mentioned Dwan because I was told Tuesday evening that he was flipping.  And I truly had never heard of him because I don’t follow recruitin closely at all.  I knew about Jordan Battle and the 5 star kid from Powell and that’s about it.  I think the entire process is absurd and you never know who you are  getting until the last minute.  If you actually had a tiny peek into how crooked it actually it you would be astounded... not just SEC recruiting.  Everywhere.    

Once the Fields situation is over I’ll have nothing more to share because I don’t have much of a clue about what’s going on inside the circle at Ohio State, and I’ll be gone.

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NoVAsmitty's picture

OK.  Thanks for the further elucidation.  I'm neither a detective nor a troll, and I'm willing to bet now neither are you, not that you need my validation.  As a Buckeye fan, your information was close to the "too good to be true" category, and I know some members of Buckeye players' families do follow 11W.  While what you have posted is tantalizing to us Buckeye fans, I could see where some associated with the team could have a different view of it than many fans on 11W have expressed.  As a Buckeye fan, I feel some duty to try and verify the source of information such as yours before I believe it or allow it to be communicated without challenging its veracity.  I still don't know if what you have posted is true or not, but I don't believe its in the nature of a Steele dossier or Zimmerman telegram either.  Don't take the following in the wrong way either, as I'm not suggesting you have been brought into an inner circle that is a criminal conspiracy in Athens, GA, but what you describe sounds a lot like how organized crime syndicates operate.  Given that, and although it may sound paranoid on my part, I think Fields is making a big mistake by sticking around practicing and playing in the Sugar Bowl, if he wants the hardship transfer clearance from the NCAA.  He will already have to explain away his sister attending UGA.  Now that he's retained legal counsel, we may see his time at UGA come to an abrupt end.  If I was his lawyer, that's what I'd advise him to do, again if he doesn't want to sit out a year, but what do I know.  My paranoia is Haskins declares, UGA knows Fields is transferring and wants to go to Ohio State, they flip Mathis, they get Fields to stick around ostensibly trying to keep him but not really, he transfers, Tate Martel then transfers, and the hardship clearance isn't approved.  

Thanks for the information and taking a risk.          

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

My bad ATL. Was not aware and did not check that you were a member for 3 years. I saw the 0/0 and assumed you were trolling.

Those dvs I got lastnite were well deserved. Thanks for the info!

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

The can’t contact him.  That’s funny.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Why the upvotes for this guy that just logged in and spewing unfounded speculation???

Confused (not really) trolling???

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Silver Sniper's picture

He seems pretty adamant, dude. Anything wrong with sharing what he was supposedly told on a comment board? It’s not like he’s publishing official articles on Facebook like Brett McShitface.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Half the sh*t that gets posted here is unsubstantiated and most of us couldn’t guess which half. If Athens is right, he should get free 12th Warrior status for a year; if he’s wrong, he’ll never be taken seriously again. Considering he’s had an account nearly two years but never posted prior to tonight, it seems a long time for someone to wait to troll us.

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Justin ipple's picture

This. I'm going all-in optimist on this one until I'm convinced otherwise

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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45has2's picture

This entire article is unfounded speculation. 95% of the visitor posts on this site are unfounded speculation. 11SJW had to apologize to Urb over unfounded speculation. Singling out one dude over something that happens most of the time on this site seems a little rich, no? I live in Tallahassee and I have knowledge of quite a bit of past and present dirt on the Criminoles. I'm not going to announce on this site, or any other, where I got it or what my business is.

Censores irrumasti.

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BrutusB's picture

I’d bet on Miss St - he was a former Moorhead commit. But this seems like a really weird decision by him. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I agree it’s weird. Fromm very likely goes hardship after next year, which means Fields would be in line to take over there at the same time he’s going to become eligible to play somewhere else. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ethan_Buck's picture

Georgia 247 mods saying behind the scenes, we are the favorite, if he transfers. Rusty (Georgia 247 mod) saying it is looking like he will be in the transfer window tomorrow and be able to contact schools that would be interested.

I dont always root for college athletics, but when i do (which is most of the time) I choose THE Ohio State Buckeyes.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

So what's the story here? I hate to sound ignorant but is this a guy OSU would take? We're good at QB far as I can tell with Martell, Baldwin and Miller then add the newest recruit who's name escapes me. I mean, is this cat a guy you take no matter what or maybe say nah you're awesome but we're good here.

Curious what the deal is

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Fields was the #2 overall (not just QB) recruit in the 2018 class. Some had him ranked over Trevor Lawrence at points throughout the year. We're talking Deshaun Watson type talent. You take him and worry about the fallout with the rest of your QB room later.

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lamplighter's picture

BUT - what about the QB whisperer up north?  What does he say?

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45has2's picture

Lamplighter: He's already invited him for a sleep over.

Censores irrumasti.

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TheBadOwl's picture

We're talking Deshaun Watson type talent

The crazy thing is that he's bigger and more athletic than Watson.

He's like Mike Vick in the body of Patrick Mahomes. It's ridiculous. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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CincyBuck's picture

Mike Vick might be a stretch -- at least when it comes to running ability.  Not sure I've ever seen a QB better than Vick in that regard.

That said, just based on the highlights I've watched, Fields' talent seems virtually unlimited.  Elite arm talent -- maybe not Haskins-esque, but darn close, it seems -- mixed with very-good-to-great running skills.

Bring him in.  If Martell beats him out, great.  He'll be better for the competition.

Random note: I didn't know Mahomes was such a sizable QB.  Dude looks like he's 12.  So I just assumed he was on the frailer side as well.

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Silver Sniper's picture

Mahomes is a thoroughbred for sure.

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

Fields is a 6’3” 220 Terelle Pryor with much bettter passing ability than Pryor.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

Thank you sir. Appreciate the thorough answer.

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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js2378's picture

FYI, reading the article, reading any number of posts in this thread, and googling Justin Fields would have given you an answer in the amount of time it took you to write the post. 

And yes, he's someone you take and figure out the rest later. 

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

FYI I read the article and the few comments on here at the time. Was just looking for consensus among those on here with their proverbial finger on the pulse of recruiting.

Also, take your smug ass comment and gtfoh

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

According to 247 sports he would be the highest rated recruit ever to play for Ohio state.  (Since 247 started rating recruits about 15 years ago).

they have him rated as their 8th best recruit of all time. Jadaveon Clowney is #1.  Terelle Pryor is best buckeye at #11.

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BigDrill's picture

I thought Nick Bosa was the #1 overall in his season.

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Silver Sniper's picture

If I recall, Bosa was somewhere around 10 and Rashan Gary was number 1 overall. 

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CincyBucksFan's picture

Not the highest overall for his class.  The highest rated recruit among all the classes.  If you combined all the recruiting classes 247 has ever done, Pryor would be #11.  Fields would be #8.  Hope I clarified this well enough

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

1. Rashan Gary

2. Dexter Lawrence

3. Greg Little

4. Shea Patterson

5. Jacob Eason

6. Ed Oliver

7. Lavota Taylor

8. Nick Bosa

9. Derrick Brown

10. Ben Davis

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Floyd Stahl's picture

Shea Patterson lol. That shows how legit that list is! Just kidding, sort of.

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brutus0717's picture

We can see how well that Eason and Patterson thing worked out. /s

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Dstacify's picture

Good thing those rankings don't hold much NFL merit. Because Greg Little was an absolute embarassment to WRs everywhere in the NFL.

11 Strong.

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DeacBuck's picture

Pretty sure that's Greg Little, the LT from Ole Miss. Greg Little, the WR, went to UNC and wasn't particularly highly ranked.

Go Bucks, Deacs, Panthers, Braves

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Dstacify's picture

Ahhh okay. Didn't realize there was another Greg Little.

11 Strong.

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labuck's picture

He's a offensive tackle out coming out of Ole Miss this year. I believe the #1 or #2 tackle on the board...

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HoyaBuckeye's picture

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Tate has talent. It also would not make as much sense since the whole theory of Tate being out of favor is because he is a dual threat QB, but Fields is one too.

I get the sense that Tate has that ability to be special. A sober Johnny Football as someone said. The only thing that makes me think this is possible is some rumors about him being late and other stuff. But I'm not well versed enough in football dynamics online to be able to grade the veracity of those rumors.

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avail31678's picture

The rumor isn’t that Tate is out of favor because he is a dual threat QB...it’s that some feel he hasn’t proven to have a great/accurate arm.  Not necessarily my thoughts, just sharing.  

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

They’re gonna come for you, Lol !

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WorthyBuck's picture

You’re not sure how you feel about the 8th best prospect of the last 15 years coming to Ohio State, the highest rated recruit the football program has landed since the rankings began?  Fields’ ceiling the stratosphere. Think Deshaun Watson.  Or a more athletic Haskins. He could be a program changing talent.  

You don’t not bring in elite talent because it may offend guys on the roster. We bring in the best and let it work out.  

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Exactly...a lot of the same people were singing the praises of Saban benching Hurts for Tua last year in the NC and that Meyer wouldn't do that, but singing a different tune now with this possibility. 

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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HoyaBuckeye's picture

You can cite Tua and Hurts, but you guys forget about Kelly Bryant.

I'm not sure what impact bringing in someone like that has on team morale. I also wonder what impact it will have on recruiting, especially with a new, young coach who doesn't have the record of an Urban, Saban, or Dabo to fall back on to overcome the potential fallout.

This wasn't directed at you, Johnny, I'm new to the forum and I'm trying to figure out the dynamic--just wanted to add to the thread here.

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CorchUrb's picture

I’ll take Fields and I hope he comes here. But it cracks me up the amount of people that just write off Tate. If he was 6’3, people would be talking about him non stop. The kid is a gamer, and is going to prove a lot of people wrong this year 

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Bucks2TheNatty's picture

Tate’s an inch taller than Kyler Murray. We’re going to be just fine if Tate is playing QB next year. 

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Justin ipple's picture

I've been told an inch makes a huge difference. (Sadface):(

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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Silver Sniper's picture

Haha, props to you my friend. ISWYDT

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WPB-Buckeye's picture

Does Tate have a baseball contract for his arm?

Go Bucks!

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Urban liked QBs that could run. Day likes QBs that can throw. Tate is a run-first QB.

It's nothing personal.

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KBonay's picture

Tate Martell HS Stats:

Soph-Passing Attempts 200 vs 73 rushing attempts
Junior- Passing Attempts 237 vs 98 rushing attempts
Senior- Passing Attempts 215 vs 146 rushing attempts

He is NOT a run-first QB.  I seriously don't know where that narrative came from.  I watched his high school games.  There is a reason he was Gatorade Player of the Year.

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

sorry K - gotta disagree. Throwing QB ratio is about 90% - 10%, maybe closer to  95/5

Running QBs still throw more than they run - the Martell ratio in the examples you provided actually confirm him to be a running QB - His senior year he was at a 3:2 ratio - every 3 passes, he would run twice. This is the definition of a running QB. Also, not gonna do the research - but he had around 50 snaps this year and I would SWAG that he threw less than 20% of his snaps this year. Handed off around 30% and ran the other fitty

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Justin ipple's picture

Not arguing but I would bet my dogs eyes he wanted to throw WAY more than they let him this year.
Maybe not but I'll still bet it cause I believe it, i cant be proven wrong, and my dog is blind as fk

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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KBonay's picture

And just how many of those 'runs' started out as pass plays?  Again, I watched him in high school.  I would not consider him a run-first qb.  I don't care what any stats say.  I know what I saw.

Yes, he is a running qb, that's the definition of a 'dual threat' qb.  JT was a run first qb.  Their games are not comparable, IMO.

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WPB-Buckeye's picture

Just watch the spring game.  The QB job is wide open.

Go Bucks!

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tcm1968's picture

Part of playing QB is hanging in there until the VERY last second and releasing the ball as you get blasted... I think of Tate as a run first guy because on tape when the play breaks down his first reaction is to run..

Doesn't mean you can't coach that out of him... but it's not easy..

Go Bucks!

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Bucks19's picture

Sorry KB but those stats kill your argument 

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

Wrong.  Meyer was not that run first and Day got Haskins to run some option

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Netbuck's picture

But Fields is 6'3". Martell is listed 5'11". Height is an advantage for a QB up to about 6'5". It doesn't mean a smaller QB cant be successful, it just is less likely. Day came from the NFL, he has seen this first hand.

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Netbuck's picture

Sure, Brees is a great QB.  Manning, Montana, Brady, Elway, Favre, Marino, Rodgers, Rothlistberger, Young, Kelley, Tarkenton, Starr, Unitas, Graham ...  You can run through the current NFL starters as well.  No one says a short QB can't be good.  Just saying way more 6'+ QBs have been.  Just like QBs 6'6" and over haven't had great success rates.  It doesn't mean it can't happen, it just means history tells us it's much less likely.

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buckeyeinWI's picture

you know what they say?  More is better...

GO BUCKEYES!

16-2 is SWEET!

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AngryWoody's picture

Not sure how to embed on mobile. Hope this works:

Tim Shoemaker (@TimShoemaker) Tweeted:
hearing Justin Fields' family just closed on a house in Dublin. Must credit Tim Shoemaker https://twitter.com/TimShoemaker/status/1074849210787352576?s=17

EDIT: Aaaaaand it didn't work. But this is already a done deal if true.

EDIT 2: Can confirm. This is a joke, my IQ is 80 and that is generous. Love y'all. Go bucks.

MGoBlog Blocked Me On Twitter.

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AngryWoody's picture

I'm drunk. Sorry. Don't hate on me y'all.

MGoBlog Blocked Me On Twitter.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

But he makes SHOES!

Never question a shoemaker!!

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Desymond's picture

Shoemaker is beside himself. Driving around downtown Dublin begging (thru tweets) Fields' family for address to new home. 

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JDiesel757's picture

I have been enamored with Fields since I first saw his tape. I like Tate but Fields has my heart. (Edit) I love Tate, too.

you're gonna need a bigger boat

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

The new shiney toy may never replace what you have. The toys that you grow up with were the ones that made you happy.

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Nuts4MyBucks's picture

This is deep. Enjoy a UV.

“SWING!....... SWING!!........ SWING!!!!!!!”

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

You ever went back and played with those toys again?  We all remember the original NES and how "Great" it was.  I've got a working one that i'll hook up now and then.  Even the best games...the Tecmo Bowls, the Contras...they get very boring after 10mins now. You grow up, you get your own money, and you buy better toys.  

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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Tresselball4life's picture

Florida State is the best place for him to have a chance to start but they suck bad.

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teddyballgame's picture

Yeah that OL will get him killed 

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CowCat's picture

As we saw in 2014, you can never have enough great quarterbacks. If he wants to come to TOSU, welcome!

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Go1Bucks's picture

Greed is unbecoming. A wealth of riches already exists here. No need.

Go Bucks!

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WorthyBuck's picture

Greed drives competition, innovation and improvement.

Not sure we have a wealth.  What we have are unproven prospects.  And Fields is by far a better prospect than anyone we currently have or who has committed.  Another level of talent.  The 8th highest rated player of the last 15 years.  

I do not understand people who do not want a player who would be Ohio State’s highest rated prospect EVER to come here.  

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Justin ipple's picture

Ohio university is my second favorite team. I could deal with this!
Yes I know what he meant but I'm an Ohio man so its Ohio University. u.n.o. (unless noted otherwise)

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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KBonay's picture

Spencer Rattler is the next QB at Oklahoma.

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LB U's picture

And that's maybe what tips the scales in our favor.. We'll see.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Right. No one expects Austin “Basic Defense” Kendall to start over Rattler, who would then have a year's game experience over Fields.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Buckifan4Life's picture

You forgot the "S".  I'll fix it for ya,... OSU. :)

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Nuts4MyBucks's picture

I don’t know how to feel about this, as I finally wrap my head around Haskins leaving and the Tate Martell era beginning (as I’ve had doubts about him) this news drops. 

Haskins and Fields are friends??

Is Haskins in Fields ear telling him to come to OSU??

Where does this leave Tate Martell if Fields transfers and is eligible?

Do you guys think Ryan Day could utilize Fields better than Martell? 

Im going to be paying attention to this very closely. 

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Justin ipple's picture

We are f5ing at 12:20 am. We all will!
That's what we do, bruh!
Go bucks!

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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viperdriver's picture

I can’t believe hairball isn’t having a sleepover with the kid!  That would be classic Harbaugh 

Viperdriver

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villain612's picture

What elite QB wants to go to Michigan and throw the ball 15 times a game in Harbaugh's 1976 offense?

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mockjocks's picture

Wow, easy to forget this as it is happening

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Six of those QBs transferred from SEC schools. Only Johnson (Clemson), Browne (USC) and Kiel (Notre Dame) didn’t. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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WoodyLivesOn's picture

SEC schools???   Hmmm, take the money and run?  ;)

"Success is the only motivational factor that a boy with character needs." Woody

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

So many of you who commernted here would take Fields and the possibility of poisoning existing relationships including studs who are committed to us just because he was ranked so high? I mean, Deshaun Watson 2.0 or not, I thought no we would set a dangerous precedent that could be used against us in recruiting (if not already by Franklin) on how much our commitment to players really is... I guess I am hesitant to want him because I will take team chemistry everyday and Sunday over a talent who might be a Prima Donna (not sure if he's or not).

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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Justin ipple's picture

A valid point but I'll just have faith that the coaches who instilled that chemistry would only make another decision to further that goal. #trustday

I've been through Ann arbor one time. I pulled over at a gas station and forced a poop.

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WPB-Buckeye's picture

Win and none of this matter.  Look at the landscape of college sports.  Guys want to win and get drafted. 

Go Bucks!

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Kshed's picture

Been crazy watching the fall from grace in Oklahoma from bringing in transfer quarterbacks the last two years. I wonder if their culture will ever recover. /s

Nice marmot.

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buckeyearchie76's picture

I think Coach Day has to evaluate all possibilities about the OSU quarterback situation after Haskins.  If Fields likes the Bucks and can lead us similar to Haskins and he wants to be a Buckeye, then go for it.  Speaking of Haskins, the one downside to him as far as turning pro is his lack of experience.  I know he was Superman here the last 2 or 3 games.  But, do not forget the fact, that both Tom Brady and Drew Brees started 30 or so games in college before getting into the NFL.  I fully understand that times were different then.  But, that extra experience probably did wonders for their professional career.  Haskins stated that he would love to go to the Giants.  But, I heard an interview with a Giants rep tonight and he said that Eli Manning is not going anywhere in the near future.  A very tough decision for Haskins.  Either way he decides, no quarterback in the great Ohio State football history ever had such a great season as he had!  GO BUCKS!

Louis Haynes

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Bucks19's picture

It’s not a tough decision to be a top 15 pick. It’s a no-brainer. 

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Stymie's picture

Agree.... He played lights out his last 3 games.... The same time he decided "I better learn how to become a runner too". Up to that point he was wearing concrete boots in the pocket and teams knew it (see Purdue, MSU, Minn. games). Look, I get the money grab thing but if he stayed and continued to perfect his pocket awareness like he did the last 3 games.... look out! He would be penciled in as the #1 overall pick and instant starter instead of riding the pine for a year or two. JMO

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WPB-Buckeye's picture

That is a perfect scenario.  Most great QB’s don’t start day one. They sit and learn from guys before them.

Go Bucks!

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MiamisburgBuckeye's picture

Justin Fields is Deshaun Watson. If he wants in you take him now and worry about pissing anyone off later. He is an absolute game-changer. Someone just posted that the last 3 people he followed on twitter are Day, Haskins, and Jeremy Ruckert. Where there's smoke....

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WorthyBuck's picture

Yes.  Fields is not a game changer, he is a potential program changer.  He could be Deshaun Watson.

You bring in the best talent you can regardless of how current players react.  If they cannot compete or do not want to, then goodbye. 

There is absolutely no question that you take Fields even if you know for a fact that it costs you Tate and Baldwin.   

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Interesting ... crazy ... wild ... intriguing ... enticing ... bananas ... perplexing ... tantalizing ... bittersweet ... controversial ... flabbergasting ... stunning ... etc.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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OSU2002Grad's picture

I really like the future with Martell or Fields, whomever it may be. I am worried about the staff reaching hard for Fields and pissing off Mathis and Martell in the process.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

Personally, I have no concern with the Coaches having no concerns with a player’s letter of pissivity, Martell’s included. 

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stpetebuck's picture

For uga fans he’s a pia. For tOSU he’s maybe distraction or worse a cancer. 

Look Dwayne dreamt of playing for tOSU. Love him and Matt Baldwin for choosing osu. Others are jealous. 

Don’t need him. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Haskins - dreamt of playing for tOSU but yet committed to Maryland and ended in Cbus bc Locksley was let go

Martell - committed to 2 different schools before choosing tOSU

Baldwin - was a CSU commit before ending up in Cbus

Mathis - committed to 2 different schools before choosing tOSU

Chug - was a transfer from WVU

Fields - was never offered by us bc we were after Emory

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stpetebuck's picture

It’s one thing to change commitments but another to transfer out.  Plus Tate has been a good patient teammate.  Baldwin too  I’m just not sure we need a qb badly enough to throw a grenade into the qb room  

That said once he’s wearing scarlet and gray I’ll cheer for him no differently than others. 

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NYCBuckeye's picture

Stop. No one said Burrow was going to be a grenade in LSU's QB room (2 QBs ultimately transferred)

EVERY player has to wait their turn unless they're a transcendent talent as a freshman. Haskins waited longer than Martell. Troy Smith waited longer than Martell. Cardale Jones waited longer than Martell.

People treating Martell like some martyr because he waited behind two more talented QBs for 2 years. SMH. This is a competitive sport. Win the job.

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stpetebuck's picture

My comment wasn’t from a “Tate for starter”  pov. Only that he’s an example of a player who rode the pines like Fields but didn’t openly whine about it. And we don’t have a desperate need for transfer qbs imo.  

I realize that there are folks who called for Tate to play more throughout the season. Not me. I liked him only as a wildcat guy. I think Baldwin will be Day’s kinda qb moving forward. 

And for the record, I believe Fields doesn’t need to put up with racist assholes at any school. But I’d be happier with a top corner or safety transferring in. 

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

It’s one thing to change commitments but another to transfer out

I don't recall you complaining when Justin Boren did just that

Shandy is not beer

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stpetebuck's picture

Not condemning the act of transferring. Just don’t think we need a qb in light of the current situation. And I wasnt an 11w member when zb transferred. 

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Maka's picture

Actually Haskins did not have a commitable offer from us until very late in the process. Our #1 guy was Jarred Guarantano. Locksley might have been part of the reason but us not getting Jarred was the biggest. 

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MiamisburgBuckeye's picture

You're wrong. He's better than Tate and if he wants to come we won't say no

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SilverHaven's picture

C'mon guys, let's not count our chickens before they hatch, or...

Hatchet our counts before they chicken.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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BlackKeys's picture

This isn’t SCum.....don’t need sloppy seconds to make ends ALMOST meet... thanks but no thanks. 

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Bucks2TheNatty's picture

Fields is Terrelle Pryor 2.0. Come on down young fella. 

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Certainly, hope he's more mature and more accurate than TP. To be fair, TP didn't have a real QB coach or offensive coordinator. But he was/is an athletic freak but not really a QB, which is why he switched to WR in the NFL (currently trying to make a team).

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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Chargerbuck's picture

Hope you are talking about his football talents only...  Prima-donna Pryor, the man who brought the OSU program to its knees, and Jim Tressel out of the program...  If Fields is Pryor 2.0, then I would pass...    Please tell me he is the next Troy Smith or Dwayne Haskins and I am all in!

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stpetebuck's picture

Black Keys. I agree. Michigan is always looking for a savior to fix bad qb development or bad recruiting. Day can find who he wants recruit and mold them.

Don’t know why you got mugged. 

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Poison nuts's picture

Idk...Martell never lost & was also 5*. Dude’s good. Really really good. Don’t want him transferring! Unless Haskins goes, Martell comes in, crushes while Fields sits, takes off after a great year then Fields is in the wings...none of this makes since to this outsider.

Get busy living.

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Jdadams01's picture

People need to stop saying Tate was a 5 star. He was a 4 star, ranked in the 50's in the 247's composite:

https://247sports.com/Player/Tate-Martell-30208/high-school-130413/

He was a very good recruit, but not a world-beater. He ranked the #2 dual-threat in a down year for QBs.

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Poison nuts's picture

 I could be wrong. I’m old & lost touch with recruiting completely.  All I know is that I watched the QB 1 documentary with him and Jake Fromm.  They kept saying five star in that. He won some sort of “best high school football player ever” award & never lost a game.  So all I have to go by is that and it made him look very impressive.  I think we can all say what we want to say to make it fit our narrative. 4*, 5*, I’d like to see what he can do and just wonder if bringing in a QB for a year is worth losing him altogether. That’s all ...

Get busy living.

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Jay_sizzle's picture

What does HS record have to do with it? Plenty of good hs qbs flame out in college , look at most of the top QB recruits of the last 15 years , and martell was NOT a 5 star , he lost a star when scouts realized that he a “work-in progress” thrower

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Crumb's picture

Wow! We'd be getting richer at a position we're already rich at! I wonder what the whole story is with him and the Georgia staff. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

Well, it would make the Joebots' heads explode, so there's that.  Probably wouldn't do the Weasel heads much good either, after the day that they've had. Other than schadenfreude, I can't get that excited about this seemingly unlikely prospect.  We seem pretty well set at QB for the foreseeable future.  If I had to chose a preferred method to explode the aforementioned heads, I'd chose the Harrison option over the Fields option.  But, then I suppose a double whammy would be pretty good too.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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NHBuckeye's picture

Has anyone ever dreamed that such ‘QB problems’ would be had at Ohio State?   This is an insane time in our Program’s history.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Chargerbuck's picture

It seems all the top programs have such QB problems....  Look no further than Bama, Clemson and now Georgia...   Let the best guy survive...

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OSU725's picture

I lot of really interesting things going on here. If both Fields and Haskins have the same personal QB coach you would have to assume he has the information on Haskins decision (even with the tweet). Unless he some how gets a hardness waiver he has to sit a year. Why not stay at Georgia behind Fromm who you would think if he has another year like this would be a first round QB next year? Or is something more going on? Also is OSU the place to step in and start like he seems to want? You have a former 5 star recruit that already has two years in Days system and Baldwin who was hand selected by Day with a head start as well. 

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Crowd Threatening Bauserbombs's picture

The question isn’t whether he’s better than Tate.  Everyone acts like they know Tate’s limitations because we used him in mop up and goal line duty just to get him on the field. Either way Fields is a legit stud prospect. If he wants in you take him and then get to see who’s best.  Maybe Tate wins out anyway. 

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BucksHave7's picture

Better us than anyone else. 

BucksHave7

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NHBuckeye's picture

Givler retweeted this. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Sphinx8751's picture

Well we now know who that was!

Georgia Buckeye marooned in SEC country.

 

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jwm552002's picture

Tate would be a junior by the time Fields gets here so who knows.

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OH2MD's picture

I read the article.  Then, I re-read the article.  Then, I read the article once again.  I might go back and read it one more time right now.  Probably no better way to start one's day than to read that article.

East Coast living with Ohio roots

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avail31678's picture

I love that their scenario is, per the article:

1) Justin Fields goes to OSU and becomes another QB in a long line of Wolverine beaters.

or 2) if Haskins decides not to declare, Fields likely won't choose OSU....which means Haskins is staying and can carve them up again next year.

Either way, baaaaad for TTUN.

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Jdadams01's picture

If you're the coaches, he's an automatic take. If he comes here, he'll have to compete just like anyone else. If Tate is good enough, he'd beat Fields out for the job. If he can't do that, I'd be okay with him transferring. Just as I was okay with Burrow transferring when he couldn't beat Haskins. 

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45has2's picture

Yep. You come to OSU to compete and the best competitor plays. Hopefully.

Censores irrumasti.

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AZBuck LHC's picture

If he wants to come to Ohio State they should take him. I think Tate can be very good as a starter, but his style of play comes with a high risk of injury and additional depth at QB is always a good thing. If it happens, it will be an interesting competition in 2020 for the starting QB position.

Buckeye B

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VIPanther's picture

For what it's worth, a well respected poster on another thread mentioned he had information that Day was visiting with a possible Transfer yesterday; well before any of this became public...Tea Leaves....

O-H

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VIPanther's picture

No idea...But, it does seem UGA was well aware of his intentions to transfer; so much that they were with a 2019 QB yesterday. I would assume that talking to a kid that has expressed interested isn't any sort of violation.

O-H

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NHBuckeye's picture

I think that is only allowed if the said kid is not currently with another school.  Say someone like, Bubba Bolden.  I've read elsewhere that Ohio State is in contact with him.

Fields of Dreams

 

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Bucks2TheNatty's picture

It couldn’t be Fields. He has yet to put his name on the transfer list so other coaches aren’t allowed to meet or talk with the player until his name is on the list. 

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WPB-Buckeye's picture

I wouldn’t believe that to be Fields.  That would be an NCAA violation until he officially declares.

Go Bucks!

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martin anderson's picture

Thanks. I thought the same thing, just wasn't sure. No idea why the DV's

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Those that are assuming Tate automatically will be the starting quarterback next year are mistaken. Matthew Baldwin is going to push Martell for this job. Justin Fields if he can get a waiver to play immediately will also be in the mix and would be the most talented quarterback Ohio State has on their roster. If he cannot get a waiver to play immediately he would simply red shirt and be behind Baldwin or Martell.

If Baldwin or fields would win the job over Martel I would expect Martel to transfer out. He’s not going to sit behind a redshirt sophomore or freshman anymore. I’m not sure Tate sticks around even if he loses the job to Baldwin and Fields does not come to Ohio State.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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villain612's picture

I like Tate but no position should ever be guaranteed. Take all the talent we can get and best man wins the job. 

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ToetotheFace's picture

And this is the exact reason I don't want to take Fields if he needs a starting guarantee. He has to compete here to be a starter, while some people are assuming he could come in and start immediately.

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AllAboutBuckeyes's picture

That would be interesting if he did transfer to the Buckeyes.  Even without that happening there might be a QB(‘s) transferring if they don’t become the starting QB or at least get sufficient playing time.

buckeyestrong

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

From what it being reported Fields has hired the lawyer Patterson used to get immediate eligibility. My guess is Fields follows the same route. Transfers to his new school immediately, goes through winter conditioning and spring ball while his appeal is worked on. I think that he has a good chance at being eligible for next season. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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martin anderson's picture

What would his defense be? Not being named the starter I don't think is a valid reason to avoid sitting out a year

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I believe there was a racially motivated issue with another Georgia student athlete where Fields was the target. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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goodlifesean's picture

Yes, and while the baseball player was kicked off the team, he is still a student at Georgia. So there could be legitimate claims of fear of retaliation.

Have you ever seen a fierce animal who you were sure wouldn't bite? Because I haven't.

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bd2999's picture

Have to wait and see. Hard to say no to a guy like this if they are interested. Lots of talent.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Fields of Dreams

 

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shawn kemps kids's picture

I posted this in the thread-version of this topic but I wonder if this is the other transfer Andrew Ellis was referring to when someone asked about Bubba Bolden in the December Heat Check. 

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bonebuck's picture

I think this is a done deal. I feel for Tate. Dude has busted his butt. I am sure he will be transferring with three more seasons of eligibility. I do not think Dwan Mathis signs LOI tomorrow also. We will be down to 2 QB's.

On the other side Justin Fields is a game changer. He is a very elusive/strong arm QB. He can take the Buckeyes back to the National Championship.

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Bucks2TheNatty's picture

Fields can’t play immediately. Assuming Haskins leaves, I highly doubt Martell would transfer with the opportunity to be the clear starter at Ohio State right in front of him. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Fields has already contacted the lawyer that got Patterson eligible. Many are saying Fields has a strong case to play ASAP. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Bucks2TheNatty's picture

What could Fields case possibly be? 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

He was the target of a racial motivated attack by a Georgia baseball player. 

According to a statement released on Monday, Georgia officials expressed concern over a weekend incident involving a member of the Bulldogs baseball team at the Georgia-Tennessee football game.

Per the report, 1B Adam Sasser, who was a second-team All-SEC player in 2018, used racially derogatory comments toward QB Justin Fields.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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avail31678's picture

Did Antonio Williams have any case at all when he transferred to UNC and played immediately?  I don't recall that he did.  Feels like the NCAA is getting much more lenient on these sorts of things.

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LouBuck35's picture

If he gets the waiver that is he will be going after - and seems likely he can get - he would probably be the front runner.

2 years ago, if Buckeye fans were given the choice between landing Justin Fields or Tate Martell, you'd pick Fields without hesitation.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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WoodyLivesOn's picture

I cannot get past the question of "Why?"  Why does this guy want to transfer?  Yes, I read all that stuff about someone referring to him in a non-PC manner, but is that truly the reason?  Or does he feel like he cannot compete on that roster?  Something is up here and just doesn't seem right.  This is not a Joe Burrow situation, where you are a grad student and want to go somewhere to play one last year.  This is a guy who just joined a team and now feels like it was a mistake?

IDK, that make me a little skeptical about him becoming leader of this team. 

"Success is the only motivational factor that a boy with character needs." Woody

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GeorgiaBuckeye2114's picture

I think he is just being realistic about his future. Kirby has a serious love interest with Fromm (rightfully so at this point). He knows Fromm has two more years and he wants to be on the field. I don't see anything wrong with it.

"We talkin' about practice?!" -Allen Iverson 2002

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WoodyLivesOn's picture

I can buy that.  Although does Fromm really have 2 more years?  My guess is that he is gone after next year, but again that would all be speculation.  Fields has to know that crazy things happen in football.  Things that lead to a 3rd teamer starting CFP playoff games (tOSU) and walk-ons playing with no experience (Nebraska this year).

I totally get the business end of it.  I just have concerns as to how he will fit into a team.  Fit in with players who wanted to play at tOSU their entire lives.  Players that were recruited by other teams, yet committed to the Buckeyes because of more than football.  Did Fields even consider tOSU when he was being initially recruited?  Yes, apparent great talent, potential for a great career.  I just don't think we have all the facts.  I am sure the coaches do though, so they will make the call.

"Success is the only motivational factor that a boy with character needs." Woody

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

1. The UGA offense isn't really good for him

2. His QB mentor and teacher loves Ryan Day and what Day has done with Haskins

3. He wants to play and sees an opening at OSU in an awesome QB offense. Smart is not budging off Fromm to the point Eason ended up transferring also. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Cooper's picture

“Referring to him in a non-PC manner” is a hell of a way to frame the usage of racial slurs.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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WoodyLivesOn's picture

LOL.  I get my reports from the media, so I always take things with a grain of salt.  In my experience, it is never as good and never as bad as what is reported.  I try not to assume.  There may have been shouting, pointing, holding a noose, and physical threats, but it might also have been a couple of 18 year old kids drinking too much and being dumb.  I just don't know.

"Success is the only motivational factor that a boy with character needs." Woody

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OSU2002Grad's picture

Being kind and decent and not referring to other human beings with dehumanizing slurs is considered “PC.” And no one wants to be “PC” anymore so we’re all just to supposed to be assholes to one another.  

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Hova9Strong's picture

Unfortunately Fields is a black QB in the South, sure he's heard the N word shouted at him A LOT! So that being said, Large part of this is in how Smart recruits, i.e. the Saban method. Meaning if I take you away from another team, then I ensure my dominance. Doesn't matter if I have any intention of playing you. Fields doesn't fit the Dawgs offensive scheme. I watched a few UGA games and a large portion of his snaps were just hand-offs, no subpackages, special plays, just burning his redshirt. Not sure how I would feel if my freshman year was used up - being a running QB in a Pro Style attack. If he's passing in those games, don't think we're at this moment.

And remember, JT was the QB when he last looked at tOSU, now he's seen what Day's scheme can be. Which fits his skillset far more than UGA's "Bama" lite. His friendship with Simba and a shared QB Guru, means he knows EXACTLY what he's getting into. Bottomline, they all want to play on Sundays, let him come and Tate, Baldwin and he can battle it out.  

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Larryp713's picture

If Fields comes to Ohio State, I hope it is an open competition and Tate and Baldwin get their chance to win the job. As long as Justin doesn't come in entitled and feels ready to compete, and sit if he loses out, then I welcome him with open arms. I think it would hurt the harmony of the team, already in transition, if Tate and Baldwin feel like they aren't given a fair chance to win the job.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

Just thinking out loud her, but Tate chose the Bucks first. The way he got popped in the Rutgers game and came right back and marched down the field got my respect. Fields is a great talent, but he still needs to earn the spot. Just his arrival would not bump Martell to the sideline.

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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LouBuck35's picture

I mean, TECHNICALLY, Tate picked Washington first, then picked Texas A&M second, then picked Ohio State third.

That said, I agree that no one should just be handed the job sight unseen. 

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

As for all the I feel bad for Tate talk..does anyone think that if Haskins did return for next season, Tate would stick around to back him up? I do not at all. This is big time football. Fields comes in and wins the job in a competition with Tate and Baldwin...so be it. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

That is a good way to put it action. I would agree with that.

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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buckeye_in_WI's picture

Im not sure if I buy this. If Haskins comes back then it's almost assuredly only for 1 year. So why would Tate transfer, have to learn a new system, potentially compete vs other QBs who may already know the system and playbook, and still have to sit out the year.

In both scenarios he doesn't get to be starter until 2020. But if he stays, he sticks with the team he knows, and sticks with Ryan Day (whom Tate seems to value having as a coach).

If Haskins stays, which I'd be stunned if he does, I'd be stunned if Tate transfers.

Unless Haskins stays and we get Fields.

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villain612's picture

After seeing the numbers Haskins put up in Ryan Day's offense, can't blame him for wanting to be a Buckeye.

Same could be said for Oklahoma, who is quickly becoming QBU.

Hope he comes here. Can never have too much talent on the roster.

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elitesmithie's picture

With regard to Oklahoma I wonder if the now constant "Will Riley look to the NFL and NFL Team so and so is interested in Riley" starts to cause some high level recruits to pause moving forward. Similar to the Urban Meyer is old sthtick(turned out to be true) that Dabo Dabo doo and Franklin successfully ran with.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Signing Fields would be an invitation for Martell to transfer. Obviously a stop gap to Baldwin. 

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Triv's picture

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4530230/5a0e131de984d40e38780272

You only have to watch the first play to know this dude has Haskins-esque arm talent. Back foot, 50 yards in the air, guy in his face, on the money.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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d5k's picture

The most important thing hasn't been pointed out as far as I can see.  If Fields transfers to OSU, we get to claim the 247 composite recruiting national title for 2018!!!

Add Fields to OSU and team score goes to 321.90

Take Fields off of UGA and team score drops to 318.07

Source:

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Season/2018-Football/Commits/Pr...

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Season/2018-Football/Commits/Preview/

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Wouldn’t antwuan Jackson then have to count back to the 2016 class, or whichever he was originally in?

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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d5k's picture

I am only counting 5 star QBs, who transferred after 1 year, with 99+ ratings in this expert analysis.  

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Makes sense.  Got it. 

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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Hineygate's picture

Although I would also expect Tate to transfer if Fields transfers to the good guys AND beats him out, I don't think that Fields simply transferring in would (or at least should) cause Tate to transfer. Fields and Emory Jones were in the same class, so Martell already expected stiff competition coming up behind him when he signed.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Tate also came to OSU when we had JT, Haskins, and Burrow.  The dude is not afraid to compete.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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villain612's picture

Man, the MGoblog meltdown if we landed Fields and Harrison would be some great reading material.

Heading to the grocery store to get more popcorn now.

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Leonhard's picture

Someone by the name of "Jim" would be bitterly disappointed.  His last name would not be Tressel.

Leonhard

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Silver_Bullet's picture

Nothing better for a coach than to add depth, and competition at the most important position of a team.  Bring him! 

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Shockersmad's picture

I was on Georgia website and the fans there said if he used the racism issue as an excuse they wish he never become successful over at his next destination. Some even wishing injury upon the kid if he use that for his reason. That's kind of sad to me. I will say that yes their fan base and student athletes shouldn't be held accountable for one d$$khead. But he shouldn't have to stay if he that makes him feel uncomfortable at all. And that reason absolutely should be used to transfer.

Shockersmad

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bucknutz18's picture

He shouldn't have to stay anywhere because well, he's an unpaid college student.  Love these 40 year olds who get all riled up about a college teenager wanting to change schools.  Like Justin Fields owes something to the UGA fanbase lol.  

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FROMTHE18's picture

all reports/discussions show that Fields and Day have a strong relationship. I have nothing but 100% faith that if Fields were to come to OSU that 1) Day knows what the impact/fall out will be, 2) Day will do a fantastic job managing it, 3) whomever wins the QB job will have Haskins like season (with a better D to compliment the O) and have a serious shot at a Heisman. I think Fields makes OSU an instant favorite in the B1G and a top 5 preseason team. Super talented. 

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brutusbuckeye95's picture

All these kids should be able to transfer wherever they want as long as people aren't writing checks and have luxury vehicles awaiting them when they arrive on campus. The graduate transfer rule has been good for college football and basketball why not expand it?

BrutusBuckeye95 - Champions bleed scarlet and gray

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bodene's picture

It's becoming apparent that free agency has arrived in college football. Any chance we find a disgruntled 5* linebacker and an underappreciated safety to transfer in?

Bodene

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Bubba Bolden at safety?

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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martin anderson's picture

We already have two 5* on the roster, Browning and Hilliard. Not sure the * ranking is the problem

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MY POP OSU Band Member 1940's's picture

Give me Jalen Hurts over any of them.  6-2 218 lbs.  26 -2 as starting QB. (Something like that). Only 11 interceptions over three years. 50 passing TD's over same period.  23 rushing TD's.  Around 2, 000 yards rushing.  Zero fumbles.  This kid is good but he would be great at Ohio State.  Does anyone think this also?

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Nuts4MyBucks's picture

No.

“SWING!....... SWING!!........ SWING!!!!!!!”

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keith7456's picture

Agree with the NO. We already had Hurts...his name was JT Barrett

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

I don't get DVing someone who is not being obnoxious just because he posts an opinion you don't agree with.  That's not what DV's are for.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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martin anderson's picture

Because some of the posters are still living in mommy's basement and seem to hi-jack each and every thread have nothing better to do.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

Hurts isn't a particularly great passer, very inconsistent and not terribly accurate. The 'Bama natives were quite restless with him as their leader last season. There's a reason Saban pulled him from the NCG last year.

Shandy is not beer

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

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"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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VanillaStache's picture

If he wants to transfer....you take him. Now if he isn't a fit schematically or culturally on the team then I think you hesitate a bit but if they are this far along in the process one would think he is already someone they really want. 

I know Tate lovers out there are not a fan of this but just because he is good and may push Tate out of a starting spot is no reason to turn him away. 

"Let me quote the late great Cornel Sanders, I'm to drunk to taste this chicken"

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JLBuckeye's picture

Shockersmad; there are idiots like that everywhere even The great Ohio State. This is being used so that he can transfer witch will set A bad precedence that will have players all over transferring including OSU (Smiths alleged racial slurs). I would love to see Fields come here and sit for A year as the rule states. This would give him time to mature on and off the field.  

JL class of 96

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Bucks2TheNatty's picture

Except Smith never used racial slurs. There is a video of the baseball player calling Fields the N word. Not even remotely the same situation and you should be embarrassed to have posted this. 

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Since64's picture

Just Curious would UGA let him go to any school or is this going to be the same ohhhh no you can't go to THAT SCHOOL type of issue? And harblough just changed khakis twice already just on the rumor alone

NONE are more hopelessly Enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free!

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brutusbuckeye95's picture

Did this kid really think he was going to jump ahead of Jake Fromm after he led Georgia to the brink of the National Championship as a Freshman? He would have his hands full trying to get playing time ahead of Tate next year.

BrutusBuckeye95 - Champions bleed scarlet and gray

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Tate is going to have his hands full trying to win the job from Baldwin. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Baldwin is good, Tate is definitely the overwhelming favorite to be the starting heading into next season though.

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NoMad Buck's picture

Birm with some cold water on us landing Fields.

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LB U's picture

Not sure how that's cold water.. He's basically just saying pump the brakes a little bit because he hasn't even decided to officially transfer yet. I didn't read anything that was negative.

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D56GoBucks's picture

He's probably referring to the nugget about Birm's UGA sources confirming Fields is all but gone and would choose between FSU and OU. I took it as a little bit of cold water myself. But as Birm did say, there are plenty of reasons why Ohio State was mentioned in the first places as a place he would consider.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

Something was tweeted that has since been taken down. In any case, if Fields does not end up @OSU, I hope Martell isn't rattled by the rumblings.

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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LB U's picture

Lol okay I'll bite, what was the tweet about?

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Dublin Buck's picture

Does anyone know what the tweet said?

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LB U's picture

That's not what he said. He said his Georgia sources said "it's probably between OU and Florida State" and the reason they would have that assumption is because of Jaden Hasslewood, who Justin Fields is close with. Hasslewood is choosing between FSU and OU. but those are just assumptions and they really dont know. If you read till the end, Birm even says "My advice is to pump the brakes until a transfer is actually announced. If Fields does intend to transfer, however, there are plenty of reasons why Ohio State makes a lot of sense as his next destination."

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

You are correct LBU. Sorry, I was away for a minute, I have not gotten any work done today lol.

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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D56GoBucks's picture

Yeah, I read until the end...which is why I said the part about Birm saying there are plenty of reasons for him to consider Ohio State.

My point was that I’m assuming Birm’s UGA sources are as credible as he, himself, is. So I would put at least some sort of stock in their opinions. 

To say they’re just assumptions, unless you’ve already talked with Birm about his sources, is your own assumption.

Regardless, there is definitely plenty of smoke here. And Rowland’s report certainly adds to that. I love it. The kid is an elite talent.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"

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Buck68's picture

D56GoBucks

[tries to follow]  "...at least some sort of stock in"....

agree this is quite the real-time moving puzzle with many moving pieces.  Perhaps relevant to football as an example of why 'waiting 'til half-time to adjust'... misses the mark of the values to stand on for the task at hand.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

I don't get the logic about waiting until a transfer is announced. If he's not transferring, then OU and FSU are equally as unlikely as OSU because... nothing's happening. Not sure how OU and FSU are somehow more likely before a transfer is announced and after a transfer is announced, OSU's chances improve. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Officially listed in the transfer portal. Here we go 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Crumb's picture

I don't get why he'd come here if he wants to play immediately. There's just as good a chance that he sits here behind Martell as he was to sit behind Fromm at Georgia. I think I'm clearly missing something haha. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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JCam061588's picture

Just as good a chance? Not really. Fields is more talented than Tate (no disrcepct to Tate) & Tate while having a better grasp on the system (obviously) has not led OSU to a championship game like Fromm.

"Because I couldn't go for three"

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villain612's picture

Oklahoma has top prospects at QB too. I think the Ryan Day connection gives us a slight edge but what do I know. I think Fields fits Day's system better than Martell does.

Florida State is his best option as far as competition goes IMO, but the state of their program isn't exactly great. 

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ATHENS GA BUCKEYE's picture

I heard today they’ve most likely convinced him to stay.

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villain612's picture

But his name just showed up in the transfer portal?

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Yep, shortly after 5pm est.

IMADELOUSYPICKS

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LB U's picture

I think that ship sailed bud.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Meh. I will wait to hear from someone official 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Weren't you the guy who had all the inside contacts and declared that it "was a done deal take it to the bank" that he was transferring to tOSU??!!

LOL ... people on the internets ...

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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AtomBuckeye's picture

Can Georgia block his transfer to OSU? This happened to Antwan Jackson a few years ago by Auburn?

AtomBuckeye

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GunnerBuck's picture

No schools are not able to block transfers anymore.

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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joeb69's picture

I will say this, after checking who he follows on Twitter, there sure are a lot of Buckeye players and I also heard Jadon Haselwood is waiting to see where he lands before committing to a school

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NHBuckeye's picture

Well we’ve got room for Hasselwood.  Problem solved.  

Seriously though, I remember Hasselwood saying he’s not coming up here.  He wanted to stay down south.   So if they are hellbent on playing together either he’s got to give in and go to OSU or OU, or they’re going to FSU.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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joeb69's picture

Just found it interesting at the amount of Buckeye players and coaches Fields is now following on Twitter and the rumor is Haselwood decommitted when Fields told him he was transferring so there's that, apparently he wants to be a WR Fields throws to

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seyekcuB's picture

This is awesome. We have show the ability to put multiple QBs in the NFL. Three in two years. 4 in 5 year span is pretty amazing.

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script-ohio's picture

What case does he have for a hardship waiver?  How likely is that to be granted?

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Tresselball4life's picture

If Fields comes to OSU.  The hype will be intense.  I am already All-in on house Martell.  However in the game of thrones, house martell does die.

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buckbornbred's picture

I'll believe it when I see it, though I'll have fun dreaming about it.

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O'Rourke's picture

I'd take the kid in a second if he wanted to transfer here. No such thing as too much talent IMO. Also, if Tate wins the job we've got a 5'10" ~200 lb. QB that likes to run it. I certainly hope he stays healthy just saying you better have a backup who is ready.

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chopshop79's picture

I'm slightly worried he may end up a drama queen, based on this exit timing. Maybe he thinks he will sit one more year at GA. Maybe he's playing the GA staff to try to get guaranteed playing time.

I think that if Haskins stays it's actually perfect for Fields. Tate would likely move on looking to start anywhere. If Haskins declares for the draft the 3 way qb battle will be superb.

Hunches aside, I'd take him. If he cant earn the spot we're out a scholarship alone. It shows high recruits that we're still a major destination even as zurban steps down. It's a huge recruiting statement

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GunnerBuck's picture

I watched the QB1 season when he was in it, I didn’t get the Drama Queen sense at all from that. I think the timing isn’t his fault honestly. Sounds like he was talking about it and it got out so he went with it. 

I can see how you’d worry about that though. 

Either way, he’s an elite talent. I really thought he was better than TLaw at Clemson. He would be extremely dangerous in this offense and I’d love to have him. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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Kernfan's picture

Interesting if he can play immediately.  Looking at a few articles on Demetris Robertson, who went from Cal to George for "personal matters" and the NCAA let him play immediately, so Fields looks like he might have a great case .  If Tate did beat him out, he might want to redshirt. If Fields does beat Martell out with only limited time in the program he should end up being significantly better.  As far as how a Day offense will look, the offense looked quite different the past 2 years.  I would hope Day adjusts to the QB he picks.  

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GunnerBuck's picture

If Day can pull off Harrison and Fields... were in very good hands. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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Buckeyebobby1968's picture

Is there a deadline for him to make a decision? I presume it would have to be after the bowl game? 

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Buck68's picture

Another day,  another viral of the same kind?

Look around the 'fields'.  They are ripe with all of us spreading the virus of 'i wanna, so he must do this or that'.

Who is asking What Comes First?  Rather... are we not showing in every one of our posts, out of our own mouths, what comes first for me, now?

This is as popular... as it is invariably fatal.  For 'every body nose' what 'happens' to the skyscraper, if you remove the cornerstone to it.  Even Coach Day is picking his nose...and we, 'loyal supporters all' ... are heartily upvoting it.

Look at us doing the very same things we condemn in 'them'.  Doesn't this 'natural, everybody does it' response, suggest we're 'standing' [i.e. transparently 'sinking'] in quicksand of our own making out of 'sand' and 'water', two basics?

And aren't we each showing why every ego "hates" even the 'mention' [any re-minder] of  what we all know we 'ought' to do?  Be cause, if we fail to start with what we sat comes first... [in our case, Honesty & Integrity]... we knowingly lie against ourselves?

So if one hypocrite [me] fingers another... does that prove the first hypocrite is 'better' or the second is 'worse'?  In our pigsty, upon what 'honesty' do i 'stay clean'... and you 'are so dirty'?  

BGO:  we each, daily have the choice to follow the 'dawn' of the day... with what comes first.  THEN, and each time, we will know if what comes out of our mouth 'loves' ...or deceives.  'The kids'... await our 'adult' examples, upon which they 'base' momentous decisions for themselves and their old/new 'teammates'.  But it always - for better or worse - starts with 'do i stand on the rock of H&I... or immediately FALL for 'all the usual suspects'?

All the 'i wanna' stuff... all of it, in thought, word, and deed... lies against what we say we stand for, engraved on that wall.

We have already been given a Good day...by intercession.  We 'intervene' to say 'have a good day'.  Thus, this is an expression of "never understanding" entirely by our choice of what to do with... the freedom we each have been given as we breathe.  How...grateful i so humbly am....

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MJTampa's picture

We have already been given a Good day...by intercession.  We 'intervene' to say 'have a good day'.  Thus, this is an expression of "never understanding" entirely by our choice of what to do with... the freedom we each have been given as we breathe.  How...grateful i so humbly am....

Well said.

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Horvath22's picture

Premium stuff, 68. Well done. Much appreciated.

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Urbanbuck's picture

+ Jadon Haselwood

Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.

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KetteringMike03's picture

All this stuff about transfers and new '19 recruits are all well and good. I, however, want lily simba back as our 4th scholarship QB. He a known quantity, Heisman well known, and he would bring that level of certainty to spring and fall ball that we desperately needed I. 2015.

BuckeyefanMike

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OSU069's picture

Haskin's isn't coming back man forget about it. We need to do everything we can to land Fields. 

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