Skull Session: Justin Fields to Ohio State Rumors, Power Five Commissioners Not For Playoff Expansion, and Aubrey Solomon Transferring From Michigan

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Justin fields would be an insane pickup and would make that QB room even more intriguing. 

If he shows up what does that mean for Martell?

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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blueblazer22's picture

Fields showing up and being granted immediate eligibility would mean he starts and Tate gets special packages again. It would be a death knell for Matthew Baldwin one would think as well. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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PhillyNut's picture

Afraid Martell would be gone if Fields comes in. Martell was a Meyer guy. Not that Day does not like him but too many things point to Fields being a Day guy if he comes in.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

I'm curious why Fields would be a Day guy when his only connection is that he's friends with Haskins and Martell has been in Day's locker room the past 2 years. Similar skill sets too.

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

Agree. Regardless of who starts if it's not Martell he's gone and if Fields transfers to OSU Martell might not stick around long enough to even see if he can win the starting spot.

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

I have ZERO faith in the NCAA granting him immediate eligibility at OSU regardless of recent precedent. ZERO. Because.....Ohio State. The day the NCAA makes a decision on a football player that would favor Ohio State will be a first.

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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buckeye1964's picture

why would baldwin be out? who's  to say he wouldn't be the best qb in a 3-way competition.

danny

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bornbredbuckeye's picture

He gone...

GO BUCKS!!! *ichigan sucks!!!

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Vberger's picture

If he’s granted immeadiate playing time, I think Oklahoma is where he will head.  Just a guess because Haskins is coming back! Right?  I can dream anyway!

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

If he truly has OSU in his top three and he is in fact a good friend of Haskins that may be the best indicator that Haskins will be leaving after this season.  I can remember many years back when Vinny Testaverde was at Miami and was going to transfer because of Bernie Kosar.  Kosar told him to sit tight before he told anyone else he was going to enter the draft.  If Fields is considering OSU that seriously it could be because he knows something for sure the rest of us don't know yet but suspect.

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Dillon G's picture

For me I guess it comes down to what Day says. If it is somebody Day wants, them so would I.

#walkaway

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Day seems to have some kind of lineage with this kid's specialized QBs coach who also works with Haskins. There are for sure Ohio state ties. If Haskins comes back I can't see Fields wanting to sit behind him, but if Haskins leaves then I think Ohio State is the best possible landing spot for him.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Brohio's picture

Is it crazy that I don’t want Fields? I don’t really care about his 247 ratings. I don’t know the dude but what he chooses to allow me to see about him from interviews, his social media, etc makes me think that this juice isn’t worth the squeeze. And what has he done on the field that is so great? Taking what’s behind door #3 isn’t always the move. I would rather stick with Tate while not alienating Baldwin/Mathis/Miller. If he was lighting it up on the field I would obviously look past all of this, but he isn’t. 

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Jay_sizzle's picture

So your judging a 19 year old kid .... for acting like a 19 year old.... makes sense 

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Brohio's picture

Lol. Get out of here with that “19 year old kid” shit. I may not have fully been the man I am today at 19 but I was damn well old enough to make sure I wasn’t filmed saying “I did good? You mean I handed the ball off good as fuck. I didn’t do shit bruh” as I walked off the field after a game my team won .Also well old enough to air my grievances behind closed doors, not to a reporter after the conference championship game. These dudes aren’t Faberge eggs. 19 is old enough to go fight in a war, so it’s well old enough not to be a drama queen in front of cameras and on twitter. This “kids” talk is nonsense

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85ThruTheHeart's picture

All I know is they damn well better not drink alcohol though!

"He has that look in his eye when it's time to start feeding the beast" UFM on EZE

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sivaDavis's picture

but I was damn well old enough to make sure I wasn’t filmed saying “I did good? You mean I handed the ball off good as fuck. I didn’t do shit bruh”

Lol stop. You think he did that on purpose? If social media and technology was as prominent back then as it is today most of the older guys I know might be in jail. There’s a million cameras around you and he was talking to a teammate and clearly frustrated. What postgame interview are you talking about? After the SECCG? Where all he kept saying was he respects his HC. He’s a competitor so it does frustrate him not to play (something Martell has said numerous times) but he trusts Kirby Smart. That everyone thinks all the QBs hate each other but they are really a small family? Didn’t once throw Fromm or any of his other teammates under the bus. He admitted in the beginning of the year that he was all about himself but as the year went on he knew it was bigger than himself, it was about the team. A quick look at all his social media seems fine. Praising team wins, saying he and everyone on the team has to get better every week. I don’t remember Eason getting this much negative attention when he wanted to transfer but this kid Fields is a drama queen because of one thing you heard? That’s interesting I wonder why.  

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

What postgame interview are you talking about? 

He didn't mention a post game interview.  He said he was filmed saying it. 

I think he thought he was going to beat out Fromm, and when he didn't it became apparent to me that Kirby tried to keep him happy and played him just for the sake of playing him. 

It didn't work. Honestly, I think this whole thing is a convenient excuse to get away from a situation he regrets putting himself in.

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sivaDavis's picture

Also well old enough to air my grievances behind closed doors, not to a reporter after the conference championship game.

I took this as a postgame interview. 

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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Jay_sizzle's picture

If your son is 19 years old .... do you still consider him a kid? What life experiences does he have to be a “man” ? Dude is 7-8 months removed from HS , just RECENTLY finished his first COLLEGE semester & isnt even old enough to drink legally but he cant be a kid? You older generation folks are prime example why the young generation is so messed up .... you guys have this high standard you believe them to have to follow .... this is not the 80s or the early 90s ... its 2018 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

You older generation folks are prime example why the young generation is so messed up .... you guys have this high standard you believe them to have to follow .... this is not the 80s or the early 90s ... its 2018 

That is an absolutely horrific take. Quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve read in a long time. I’m just going to let it go at that.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

@ Iowa; Sad part is, it will only go down from here. 

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

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brutus0717's picture

I won't let it go. His kind of thinking has 25 year olds still living at home wondering what they're going to do with their lives. Who cares what decade it is? He's been afforded an opportunity that many his age don't get (even in the 2010's), you know, young men and women that are forced into the workplace to earn a living. Their parents kicked them out when they turned 18 so they have no other choice. His slippery slope would have 3 generations living under one roof because none ever had to grow the fuck up. Okay, I'm done.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Blackcoffee's picture

Well it does make me feel dated a little. In the 80's I was a punk rocker, now my two boys are 13 and 11, so gonna take that part with a grain of salt. But I get the sorta point. Sheesh, at 19 here you might find yourself doing 3AM raids on West Bank houses not having a clue as to really wtf? you are doing, how you arrived to this point. Hard as fuck bein' a 19 year old in th limelight, or raiding Palestinian homes. In either case their is no guarantee of acting with wiisdom or in a manner that older people think you should act. Polyanna to think otherwise.

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MichiBuck12's picture

I'm not letting that one go either, Iowa. The amount of entitlement in that statement is enough to keep every negative stereotype alive for years to come. Demanding the world change to make life easier for you, is the very entitlement that people rag on millennials for. As a millennial myself, that bothers me. Because we are not all that way. Now if we want to have a conversation about the generation that raised some (definitely not all) "young people" to be that way, I'm here for that conversation. But high expectations are not the problem. You don't go complaining about the behavioral standards set for you by your elders because those standards were too high. You do it because they were too low, and you failed to meet them.

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brutus0717's picture

Don't have a son, but my daughter is 21, and I won't apologize for the standard I've expected her to follow from a young age. Never apologize for expecting more from your kids.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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08Buckeye's picture

My dad’s advice, expect more of yourself and show it, then expect more from your kids.  Set the example that you can always find fault in youself and can always Improve or be a better man than you were yesterday.

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MDBuckeye2002's picture

I agree 100% but look to why some of the kids straight out of HS don't have that standard ingrained.  I didn't and my dad was a decent man.  I expect my children to because I show them the way and set that standard.  This can be a long discussion and dialog but teenagers, especially men/boys brains are not fully developed thus may not understand they are always under a microscope.

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987

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Brohio's picture

You older generation folks are prime example why the young generation is so messed up

Lol Jay sizzle. I’m in my 30’s and I’m a millennial by definition. So now what? 

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Wargor's picture

I generally try to stick up for the younger generation when they are being unfairly maligned by the generations that raised them in sweeping generalization, but this is pretty bad.

1.  The younger generation is not 'so messed up'  They're kids and young adults doing the best they can with the world they find and were raised into.  Much like the preceding umpteen generations this has produced differences with their elders.  So what?

2.  Don't judge entire groups of people such as the 'older generation folks' by whatever grumpsters you find on this series of tubes.  

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fishleehooker's picture

I bet there are a ton of faberge collectors around here.  Kind of a weird analogy.  

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bucks_4_life's picture

+1 for the "juice is worth the squeeze" comment. One of my favorite lines from any movie. If you can tell by my tagline.

The juice is worth the squeeze

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faux_maestro's picture

If we get Fields AND Harrison after Solomon transfers out of TSUN they will have to shut down MgoBlog permanently and every High School kid playing rec. league indoor soccer with Brian Cook better have his head on a swivel.

They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Early, but post of the day. 

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

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C-Deck's picture

The DV must be a mirage.

"Hit them hard and see how they fall"

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

I’ve garnered stalkers. Oh well, here’s another for them. 

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

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Afonzai's picture

Yesterday's post regarding the meltdown over at MGOBlog made my day Year. I was laughing for hours.

Thumbs up

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CharlieBuckeye's picture

For anyone north of our border; for anyone who roots for TTUN - I say good! Because any fan base who reaches so far mentally as to compare Mike Weber leaving early for the League to Solomon’s transferring is

a) On drugs

b) wears a tin foil hat or

c) b&c combined

As an OSU fan - if my biggest complaint is that we didn’t get into the playoffs because of old men who have no consistent basis for selecting a team - then I can live with that!!!

I am a lot happier with the way our program is going than “Those who root for TTUN will just remain sorry and deflated”

MRRRY CHRISTMAS & GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!

"To have a great life simply follow this rule:  Do not bring undo conflict into your life..."

Charlie Baker - OSU - 1986

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brutus0717's picture

I caught that ridiculousness as well. Weber could/should have gone pro last year. Losing a former 5 star recruit, and him being the 8th guy in that class alone to leave (granted only 7 left willingly) tells you all you need to know about that dumpster fire up north, and I've got my marshmallows ready. 

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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blueblazer22's picture

The naughty Santa story is something else. What on earth could have possessed this guy to lose his s$&@ like that? No stiff upper lip there for that Brit. 

I love the Fields possibility, but the guys leaving ttun are even more entertaining, especially a 5 star. Those who leave indeed....

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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NHBuckeye's picture

There is a rumor floating that Tariq Black may also be looking to transfer from TTUN.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Buctor's picture

Should be fun to keep watching up there!  Now for fun, just imagine if they lose their bowl game!!!

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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BucksLover0214's picture

You mean WHEN they lose their bowl game.  Only B1G team to lose their game last year.  I think UM would match up well with UF in the regular season, but with all the guys they have not playing in the game to prepare for the draft, I don't think UM stands a chance.

They hate us cuz they aint us!! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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subUrbanBuck22's picture

In his defense, Santa that is, the fake beard is a fire hazard lol and there is no quicker way to get the attention of people to evacuate like Ole St Nick dropping the F Bomb 

Go Bucks!

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NHBuckeye's picture

This is an insane time to be a Buckeye fan.  Ohio State a QB Factory?  I wouldn’t have imagined that in a million years.  Yet here we seem to be. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Schizo's picture

If Day can recruit and develop top-tier QBs then that will hopefully compensate for any recruiting dropoffs in other areas.

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Buctor's picture

Have not watched any Ga game.  But given what's said about how good Fields is supposed to be, just out of the world great is the current Ga QB?

No wonder they are ranked at five! (Ssssssss)

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Jay_sizzle's picture

Fromm is an excellent QB , Kirby smart tries to make him a game manage (tries to be too similar to saban) but Fromm is purely one of the most naturally talented QBs ive ever seen , if he was on a team like Clemson, OSU , Oklahoma where he could be more explosive, he would be a top 3 college QB

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Dillon G's picture

So Gary and Peppers were 2 of the greatest ever? I guess they did not develop or it was wrong. Both Bosa's absolutely did more than Gary.

#walkaway

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Mrs. Bosa did more than Rashan Gary.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

She is a Bear making football factory. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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Dillon G's picture

Being a traditionalist, I have to also thank Mr Kumero to let papa bear date his sister and not interfere.

#walkaway

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Kumerow...odds are he introduced them. Eric and Cheryl’s biological father was an NFL player named Palmer Pyle who eloped with their mother against her father's wishes. (And we all know who Eric and Cheryl’s maternal grandfather was.) Palmer Pyle’s brother played for the Bears. Suffice to say that the Bosas’ family bloodline is overflowing with athleticism. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I LOLed at this more than I should have.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Dillon G's picture

I thought they played on the Dolphins together, for a short stint. 

#walkaway

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faux_maestro's picture

The Power 5 don't want an expanded playoff because they don't want some school from outside the Power 5 to get in on the gravy train.

They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

If the Big XII was smart they’d add UCF which is blossoming into a sports powerhouse that’s outgrown the AAC. A side benefit is it would kill that particular concern really quickly.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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TkeBuck's picture

fields may include tosu in his wish list...and ryan day may love 'pass first' qb's, but at the end of the day, fields ends up somewhere other than here and tate takes us to at least another B1G championship.

...but don't ya just love the what ifs?

klusewski

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Sunny Buck's picture

1) If the other commissioners won't fight for a better playoff system it will be up to the teams to change the perspective of the committee. Oklahoma can and will beat Bama. OK by 10 points is my prediction. Bama's pass defense is very vulnerable. Georgia had them and didn't finish. OK will be relentless and driven. I never make predictions but i believe the Tide turns against Bama this year.

2) Clemson is beatable. I think ND can do it. Another prediction, but i am going all out this post season.

 If the commissioners can't beat the system, let the teams do it on the field. I can hope, right ?

 3) That Santa Clause has issues. He should be wearing blue. Those kids who stay will be cussed out !

If I were Justin Fields, I would choose Florida State. He would start immediately.

Merry Christmas to all.
 

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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faux_maestro's picture

I don't think Clemson is as good as many think they are. That being said, Clemson is going to do to ND what The Sisters did to Andy Dufresne.

They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

I see where you are going with this. Then the guards (Bama) disable Bogs in the title game. Makes perfect sense to me. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Faux is in a roll. 

‘Tis true. Andy, I mean Brian is in for a long night. If they were in the ACC as their other sports, this would have already been over. 

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Or at least only one of them would in the CFP, which means UGA would be in as a 2-loss non-conference champ. That’s what would stoke the expansion fire more than anything. Ironically, Brian Kelly is in favor of expansion but it also works in ND’s favor more than any other school and validates their position to not join a P5 conference.

Larry Scott is naturally going to toe the company line because the PAC-12 has nothing to complain about. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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brutus0717's picture

The Clemson D has shown that they know what area they're looking for.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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MichiBuck12's picture

I admire your optimism Sunny. But I don't think Oklahoma stands a chance against Alabama. Oklahoma hasn't seen a real defense all year. Bama's might not be great, but its way better than anything in the Big 12. Meanwhile, Bama's offense is gonna have them up by 4 touchdowns before Oklahoma even realizes whats going on. I think Notre Dame does have a chance against Clemson though. The only team in the current top 25 on Clemsons schedule this year is Syracuse. I think Dabo and his merry band of butthole touchers have gotten fat off cupcakes this year and may not be prepared for a team with an actual pulse.

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Sunny Buck's picture

Well, it's a little bit of optimism and a whole lot of hope for football karma to catch up with Bama. The Tide doesn't have the elite defense that they had in years past. I still think OK will score toe to toe with them. Georgia did it this year and last year with their offense. The Sooner offense is able to score early and often and is far more explosive that the Dawgs version. It ought to be a heck of a game.

I can't believe I'm saying this but.....Boomer Sooner !  Please forgive me for that everyone.

GO BUCKEYES !! ....That felt better.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes

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MichiBuck12's picture

I'm with you that I am rooting hard for Oklahoma to win that game. Where I get hung up though is that I think Oklahomas offense is overrated by virtue of playing nothing but horrible defenses. They are good, and they have plenty of athletes. But I think their offense is going to look a lot like Oregons did against us in the natty a few years ago. They might hit a big play or two but ultimately will meet their match for the first time all season and I'm not sure they'll be able to handle it. 

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Wargor's picture

I know this won't happen, but if I was Alabama, I'd onside kick every time.  Oklahoma's offense is good enough that you need the shortened field of the red zone to get your stops (3 pts is a stop), and with the defense being terrible, Alabama should also be able to score at will.  So keep that offense off the field with a couple of onside kicks (or or two out of seven tries, lets say).  Only downside is a shortened field that Kyler was going to shorten for you in 1-3 plays anyway.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

That is absolutely ridiculous.  Bama's defense is actually pretty good, and with a healthy TUA, can score at the same clip as OU, or at least close to it.  So, it will come down to who gets more stops, and I guarantee you it will be Bama, as their offense (arguably weaker of two units) is a lot better than OU's defense (clearly their weaker unit).  This will be a double digit Bama win, mark it down.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Wargor's picture

I agree, but my point is that Alabama's ability to stop will come as the field gets shorter.  They're usually going to give up that first 30 yards between the 25 and where an onside kick would be recovered anyway.  I presume Alabama is going to score just about every time they touch the ball, and usually touchdowns.  If you can take 1-2 possessions away from OU's offense, that alone could win you the game.  You also should have a more rested defense, since they don't have to play all the downs between the OU 25 and the Alabama 45ish.  They also get to rest when the onside kick is recovered.  A bit less than 20% of expected onside kicks are recovered, and 60% of surprise kicks are.  That's got to be good for a minimum of 1 expected recovery with a strong chance at 2 in the game.  

And yeah, I know, never happen.  But think about it if OU is effortlessly moving the ball from their 25 to Alabama's 45ish.  

Of course, you could make the case that the strategy could work well for OU in the same regard.  If Alabama is going to score every time they get the ball, you'd better do something to cut down their opportunities.  

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fear_the_nut70's picture

So much this.  I think OU might have the worst defense of any of the teams that have made the playoffs since they started.  Alabama has a really good offense, almost as good as OU's (and honestly, maybe better, since I think OU"s numbers are inflated because, well, Big 12).  The Tide is gonna indeed roll.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

My understanding is that Florida State is not really being heavily considered, if at all. 

Scott62's picture

My ideal scenario is that all four teams lose.  Since that can’t happen, I really don’t care who wins.  Next best case is that each game results in an extreme blowout.  That devalues the product and probably the best way to devalue the committee.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

If Bama and Clemson roll as I suspect, it will be more grist for the we don't even need 4 argument.  This is one of my things, but the Committee is supposed to try to pick the best four, not pick two good matchups (which would be impossible anyway).  Since any one football game could result in a blow out just because, they could still get the correct 4 even if both semis are blowouts.  Probably, as I said above, it's just more proof that it really is a two team race and we let two pretenders in.  

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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MichiBuck12's picture

I might be alone in this but I don't really care to have Fields transfer in. We have a lot of QB talent on the roster as it is, guys that have waited patiently for their turn. It just doesn't feel right to bring in a guy to cut in line. 

Solomon transferring out of michigan is funny to me. That seems to happen a lot. Its almost like there is something or someone up there that isn't quite as good as expected.

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

I don’t think that’s a good reason to skip on Justin Fields. If he was just a regular recruit for 2019, I don’t think you’d worry about him cutting the line.

IF he comes to OSU, and that’s a big if, he’ll still have to win the job in a pretty talented QB room. If that happens, I have no problem whatsoever with any of this. All of these guys have to assume that they’ll be fighting for opportunities. And if Martell or Baldwin win in that case, they’ll be better from the increased competition. Only upside for OSU from my perspective.

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MichiBuck12's picture

If he was a regular recruit I would not be worried about that. But he's not a regular recruit. And a freshman doesn't come in with any assurances of immediate playing time. I highly doubt a QB rated this highly is going to transfer to a new school without some assurances that he has the job. And that sounds like a good way to fracture the locker room.

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BrutusB's picture

Day should promise him the CHANCE to get the job just like anyone else. But any coach promising a starting job seems like a pretty huge red flag. 

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Mr.GoodKat's picture

I agree in part, but also worry that it could cause one or more to consider a transfer. I really don't want depth to become an issue in the OB room. I would roll with the guys/plan we have.

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awlinBrutus's picture

They have a new mantra up north, they are calling it "The Transfer Tour", LOL

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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ToTheHouse's picture

Whine-o-witch latest tweet on their rebuilding/transfer tour...

It's the NEW "Mirage Tour" & Karen Higdon guarantees its a *ichigan win-win.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

They have a new mantra up north, they are calling it "The Transfer Tour", LOL

Now there’s a strong candidate for post of the day.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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camcop71's picture

The Revenge Tour didn't sell too many tickets.

"I was tired of trying to work my way around the back so I just ran him over.” -Joey Bosa, PSU 10/25/14

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

While there’s definite debate about Fields coming in or not, just the mere discussion coupled w the continued parade out of tsun is damn fun!

The possible disruption is obvious. But just think though, if Fileds were to come in and Day can do with him, what he meant to Dwayne...I’d imagine Day becomes the new “Recruiter in Town”...and on the heels of Urban’s recruiting prowess. Something to think about. 

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

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prdoctor's picture

Ultimately it's not going to matter what Delaney or Scott think, unless they're immortal. Bowl ratings and attendance are going back up right around the time the public develops a renewed interest in the NIT. The playoff will expand and people will wonder why in the hell they didn't do it sooner.

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BrutusB's picture

The problem is the bowls still get good ratings despite everyone complaining about it. They don’t have a ton of incentive to change. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Correct.  IF this was just about money, they would have done it long ago.

CFB has the only regular season that matters.  I don't bother with regular season MLB any more and I wait till my NFL team loses their fourth game, because, well, why bother.

Funny thing is, I am not even sure we have 4 real contenders this year.  Sure, ND deserves it in an unseated season, and OU's offense is good, but I think two blow outs are coming defined as 14+ point losses for my purposes here).  But Playoff Guy has gotten used to bloated playoff brackets with fake contenders for so long, he has to have in CFB.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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BBQ_Fan's picture

Dads in uniform. No. Just no.

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bucknuthoffy7's picture

If Fields comes to Ohio State, my guess is someone transfers out. I don't know much about him other than the player rankings from last year but if Ryan Day feels good about him then I'm all for him coming to Columbus. May the best man win to take over at QB next year as they try to replace Haskins. As far as playoff expansion goes, I don't think an 8 team playoff can get here fast enough. They will not regret it. Too bad the powers that be are dragging their feet on it.

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libera's picture

if I remember correctly, the reason that the 49ers let Harbaugh go was that the players were starting to rebel against him. Seems to me if 8 maybe 9 players from one recruiting class transfers that there might just be the same issues going on. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

I believe this is correct. I have always compared him to one of those people you meet at a party that seems cool, and you hang out with them and have fun for a night. They're just really intense people which makes them fun and hilarious in small doses but the more time you spend with them the more annoying they become because that intensity never shuts off and is out of context pretty much everywhere except that initial party. It has been a common theory around here that eventually his shine would wear off and things would start to decline. We'll see what happens going forward but they do seem to have an awful lot of guys transferring.

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hetuck's picture

1. The Power Five commissioners' comity is not shared by the fans. 

2. Urban's "third uncle" has now been replaced by quarterback gurus. 

3. Today's lesson in epicaricacy: Aubrey Solomon. 2,579 days.  

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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buckeyepastor's picture

I have come to dislike Dabo Swinney even more than Saban.  For starters, he has been outed as a guy that has negatively recruited by smearing Meyer for years (I am sure others have too but Swinney’s have been talked about by the recruits).  Which would be bad enough if he weren’t also so over the top preachy about his Christian faith.  How very Christian of him to make bearing false witness part of his standard operating procedure.  Adding to that, he plays in the weakest of the power 5’s and coasts perennially to the final four without having to play anyone.  Meanwhile, unlike other schools, it doesn’t seem like Clemson’s close calls are ever called into question.  Can’t stand the guy.  Would love to see ND come in mad as hell and upset them, and I haven’t rooted for ND in about 20 years or more.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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colo_buckeye's picture

But Syracuse almost cracked the top ten!

​I agree with you about swinney, he makes me cringe.  Saban is legit, swinney has benefited from his DC staying around so long.  Also, its annoying (or ironic) that autocorrect tries to change swinney to swine, everytime.

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MichiBuck12's picture

Dabo just seems so fake all the time. Obviously his christian faith is between him and God. But the way he so brazenly does shady things recruiting and then turns around and preaches into a camera makes me very suspicious of him.

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BbBnD's picture

I’m not sure we can claim he was bearing false witness when Meyer is indeed retiring. 

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

Except he's been doing it for years, long before any of UFM's health issues came to light.  He probably says the same about Saban, and if he keeps it up long enough, eventually he'll be correct.  That doesn't mean it's not a douche move.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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BbBnD's picture

Meyer’s health issues have been public knowledge since at least 2015 and they caused him to retire. Dabo was correct, whether we like it or not. 

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Chark's picture

In the recruiting story, it's cute how the Florida fellows appear to be doing the Baby Shark (doo, doo, doo, doo, doo), the Penn State gang appear to be flossing (with helmets!) and the Missouri team are about to perform their best M.C. Hammer routine. Some programs will do anything to land a recruit.

Meanwhile in the land of Harbaugh, they're singing, "The wheels on the bus go round and... WTF! What happened to the wheels?!!!"

Alcohol will not solve any of your problems, but then again, neither will milk or water.

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bornbredbuckeye's picture

I just hope that Fields is not like another 5* QB that was able to achieve a hardship transfer to ttun.

GO BUCKS!!! *ichigan sucks!!!

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BrewstersMillions's picture

If he went to OSU (or OU for that matter), Fields would have two things going for him.

1) A progressive coach that understands how to score a lot of points in Riley or Day.

2) He wouldn't have to play OSU

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

If Fields chooses Ohio State, that would be huge. He would thrive under Day's tutelage. That said, nothing is for sure right now so we shall see how this shakes out.

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BrutusB's picture

I still think a four-team field is fine. They just need to very clearly lay out the criteria they’re going to use and then stick with it. If they’re just going to change what’s important on a whim you’re just going to bring the same problems into an eight team field anyway. 

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BbBnD's picture

Criteria that isn’t determined by something completely objective, like a spot for each P5 conference champion, will obviously always be subject to subjectivity. You’ll never get clear and consistent criteria with a four team playoff.  

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Santa’s profanity-laced meltdown horrified children at a Christmas festival...

My first thought was "Billy Bob Thornton must be drunk and out of work again"

Darth Delany sticking up for us once again I see. With a Commish like him who needs enemies?

My only apprehension with Fields is him coming in and we see 2 or even 3 of our QBs transfer out, then Fields doesnt get it done on the fields (pun intended) and we are stuck with him. Coach Day had better be sure he wants this kid before bringing him in. Then again, Fields may come here and light it up in the Spring Game and we're all suddenly in love with the kid so who the hell knows?

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Meek's picture

Looking back at Urban Meyer's top bowl moments.

I know we are a fan site, but that's too invasive. Please respect his privacy. Oh wait . . . that doesn't say bowel movements, does it . . . . Carry on.

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gobuckscm's picture

Glad to see that I'm not the only one that initially saw that when quickly scanning the headlines the first time.  That would be quite the montage....

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Davebuck187's picture

"Then again, Delany is a well-documented advocate for the Rose Bowl being the biggest end game of them all"

I despise that man with all that I am. Can someone tell him it's not the 1970's? Ohio State shoots for National Titles not Rose Bowls(unless it's part of the playoff). This isn't Bo Schembecler and his Michigan Wolverines!

"Woody is a God-fearing man. It's good to know that he's afraid of somebody."
-Archie Griffin.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

People don’t want to hear this, but Clemson and Alabama are clearly the 2 best teams in CFB.  Book it, they will both win their semis and meet in what I think will be another epic game.  it isn’t that ND and OU aren’t deserving, they are just clearly a notch below.  If this is correct, then yes, 2 would have been the right number this year.  Just wait, and remember these words (I think we are getting two blow out semis again, and so do those putting their money on it)...

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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c92996p's picture

I'm with you nut70, I really think Bama and Clemson are a cut above everyone else this year.

I'm actually with Dabo on his comment.  Pretty much every year, 2 teams would have been enough to decide the championship.  The system only screwed up when they picked the LSU rematch instead of giving Ok St a shot vs. Bama in '11.  After that moronic screw up, the BCS was on borrowed time.  The same would've applied this year if OU had been left out for UGA.

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BbBnD's picture

Yeah, but it’s better to have more than 2 teams to allow for years like 2014.  

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fear_the_nut70's picture

All you are saying BbBnD is that you are comfortable with the winner of a tournament winning the title.  Not saying this isn't legit, just saying that it transfers weight from the full season of work to the last few games in a winner take all format (that in some years, could pit 2 loss teams playing undefeated teams in a one game elimination tournament, which doesn't really seem fair).

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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EffMarkMay's picture

This is the ultimate decision - should major college football's national champion be the winner of a tourney, or should they be considered the 'best' through whatever form of subjective/objective process there is?

Personally, I think an expansion of the playoff to 8 is the best option (and think that 4 is better than the BCS).  Some combination of computer rankings/models combined with the 'eye test' is good enough to narrow down the field, but I don't think it can get you all the way down to THE best - there is too much variability with 120+ teams playing 12-13 games.  Case in point, using strength of schedule as a component sounds reasonable, until you look at the fact that it's based on your record and your opponents record - so the SEC/ACC with their 8-game conference slate is always going to have a higher SOS because they all have 1 less loss.

'Best' can just mean way too many things to different people - obviously a majority of the 12 people in Dallas thought that UGA was 'better' than OSU - despite the fact that they lost twice - and they thought that several 1-loss teams were 'better' than a team that hasn't lost in 2 years.

I'm more than happy to take the years that a team that looks sloppy early puts it together and runs through a playoff over an 'invitational' where the criteria for entry are changed each year to fit the narrative.

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BbBnD's picture

Yes, it does make regular season games less meaningful. However, football is about entertainment and a larger CFP field provides more entertainment. Especially now that the non-CFP bowl games’ entertainment factor has been diluted to a degree by various factors (spoiled fans, star players sitting, etc.).

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I could not agree more.  And if you look at the balloting that year, Ok St had a better SOS.  Several coaches moved them down to fourth or lower, including Saban.  The only other year that was even questionable in the BCS era IMO was 2007 when 2 loss LSU got in, but that year was so crazy there would have been nothing short of a 6 team playoff that would have solved it (and you don't design a system because of 1 year).  People will try to site to 2014 because of Ohio State winning it at # 4, but that misses the mark a bit--any time you expand the tournament in size, any of the field can actually win it. People want bloated playoff brackets because that has been what they have been conditioned to believe is appropriate based on what we see in other sports.  

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

People don’t want to hear this, but Clemson and Alabama are clearly the 2 best teams in CFB.  Book it, they will both win their semis and meet in what I think will be another epic game.  it isn’t that ND and OU aren’t deserving, they are just clearly a notch below.  If this is correct, then yes, 2 would have been the right number this year.  Just wait, and remember these words (I think we are getting two blow out semis again, and so do those putting their money on it)...

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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BuckeyeMark's picture

The Atlantic reporting the very opposite about Delaney.  Apparently the B1G IS open to expansion of the cfp.  "Uh, did we say we liked four?  What we meant was we like EIGHT!  Yeah, eight is better than four!  ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE MISSED OUT ON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TWO YEARS IN A ROW!"

https://theathletic.com/719675/2018/12/18/college-football-playoff-expan...

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SilverHaven's picture

"You're going to see a lot of football games the next few weeks "

NOT.

I'm going to see a lot of fun at parties and celebrations.  Merry Christmas.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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cricejr's picture

I'm unsure if this is political or not but I'm glad Fields is leaving Georgia. I have long wondered why black players would go to schools that just 50 years ago wouldn't even allow them to attend school, let alone play football.  And you better believe that baseball player isn't the only person in Georgia who feels that way about black players.....

I bleed scarlet...literally

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MichiBuck12's picture

Are you suggesting that black people should voluntarily segregate themselves just because segregation was a matter of policy 50 years ago? I'm pretty sure thats a political topic so I'm not going to go into detail about just how stupid that is.

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BuckeyeJAK's picture

Just Heard on BTN Z.Harrison is down to Buckeyes and TTUN

Mark May is a mental midget

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thedewman10's picture

I wouldn’t hesitate to recruit Solomon and Black also. Pour it on.

TheDewMan10

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Someone is missing the point. The first Power Five commissioner to speak out in favor of 8 teams will be the SEC guy. With 8 the SEC would get 2 every year and many years get 3 in. 

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