Is Dwayne Staying One More Year?

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BeneckeBuck5's picture

I still find it unlikely, but it's interesting that Dwayne would do this so publicly.

And Toledo still sucks.

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bbb's picture

It's clearly a joke. People here are reading way too much into this

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kmp10's picture

It's not "clearly" anything, and that's why people are reading into it. 

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smith288's picture

I took it as clearly a joke and him being an OSU "fan"

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Earthoid.'s picture

Oh thou master of perception, let us bow down to his all-knowingness for our attempted accession to such is futile.

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SweetDee's picture

Will not get my hopes up too much, but please let this be so! 

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Barfolomew's picture

I don't like to read too much into these things but I will say that if he decided he wanted to come back and win the Heisman and National Championship after putting up a hundred points on Michigan I'd be ok with that.

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InUrbanWeTrust34's picture

Barf... YES. YES. YES!!!!!

My personal thoughts are that he is ultimately going to be the first or second QB taken in this year's draft, but I think there is something (all be a little something) to the comment.  Dwayne Haskins has dreamed of playing QB at Ohio State and maybe just maybe he really does enjoy living out his dream, one year as the starter was just the tip of the iceberg for him... He has already rewritten quite a few records, here is to hoping he wants to own all the records.

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zeketolliver's picture

It could very well be that he wants another shot at some hardware. I'm not sure if the risk of injury is worth it though. Still, if he went out and duplicated this year's success with (damn near) a whole new corps of receivers, then he would pretty much be guaranteed to sign a contract with the worst team in the (2019-2020) NFL.

If he leaves now, he is a almost a sure-fire 1st rounder in the 2019 draft, and less likely to get picked the worst team in the league.

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WahooFanChicago's picture

As a Buckeye fan I would love to see him come back but from a career perspective I think it would be a substantial mistake for him.

Maybe he loves college, loves the buckeyes and giving up a year's worth of multi-million dollar compensation isn't a big deal to him?  Then there is also the injury risk associated with a whole additional season....

As it relates to Weber, I'm glad that he's playing in the bowl and finishing what he started.  He seems like a very good dude and a real buckeye.  I hope he plays a great game, improves his draft status and earns a few more millions on that first contract as a result.

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Agree with everything you said, but I'm not complaining if he comes back. We could potentially lose Tater if that's the case, but Baldwin has been getting rave reviews.

I personally hope he's goes as I think he's proved everything he needs to.

Anyway, just found the comment interesting.

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

In the unlikely scenario where Haskins comes back I dont think Tate transfers. He really has nothing to gain from it. If Haskins comes back itd only be for the 19 season. Tate would have to sit out the 19 season anyways if he transferred since it wouldnt be as a grad transfer. Why do that when you could at least get mop up duty behind Haskins. Now, if Baldwin starts to look like the starter for 19? Then Tate is def gone.

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cmillertime247's picture

Why would it be a career mistake? This isn’t a Cardale Jones type situation. Him coming back will only make his draft stock rise. It’s one more year under his belt with more film for teams to watch. Plus maybe he has ambitions of winning the Heisman and a NC. Sure he’s passing up on money now but coming back and potentially being a top 3 pick would put a lot more money in his pocket. 

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raiderred's picture

Mistake is definitely not the right word, I agree. But it’s just not a smart business move to stay another year. When you are a first round lock in a very violent game, you should declare as soon as possible. It’s life changing money for he and his family. There no guarantees in tommorow. You never know what might happen. So staying a year when he’s looked at as a top 3 qb in this class with the potential of being drafted number one of the three, it would be wise for him to leave. But it’s his choice. 

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stuckupnorth's picture

Factor in inflation. Also the time value of money and I think he loses more than he gains. I don’t think his draft stock will rise. Next year has more competition at QB. Plus now he is regarded as a top 2 QB. I’m not sure how he can improve stock any more than top 10. Teams don’t need anymore film on him. He has a full season under his belt. They have seen enough of him. They have film going back to high school. Times have changed. With the internet and 7v7 camps starting as freshman. These kids have way more time playing football than generations past

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WahooFanChicago's picture

I said it was a mistake since the mock drafts I saw have him as a top 5 to top 10 pick in this year's draft.  That's worth a contract of about $25 million over 4 years or $6 million per year.  

If he gets seriously hurt playing an additional season that whole nut could be sacrificed.  Even if he didn't get hurt the first year of that ($6M) would be sacrificed or at best delayed.

If I were Dwayne's parents or advisor I would tell him to take the money.  Most NFL careers are short.  Take the money while you can.

As Buckeye fans of course we want him to stay but I think if most of us were in his position we would probably take the money.

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fishleehooker's picture

If he gets hurt, his income doesn't go to 0 unless he is unemployed.  

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wigmon's picture

Might possibly be a financial mistake.  There is a lot more to life than money.

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sivaDavis's picture

Why would it be a career mistake?

Well for starters he might already be considered QB1 in a draft where he could potentially be a top 6 pick. Herbert looks to be close to staying at Oregon and that solidifies Dwayne's standing. Would coming back for a year to climb 4-5 spots be worth it? Dwayne can sling it so this first contract won't be the only one, you play for your 2nd contract. Next year Herbert, Fromm, Tua, Eason, Stidham maybe. Now I still think he is the best QB in the draft this year or next.

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fishleehooker's picture

That's a great for getting drafted. But Tom Brady, Drew Brees and the greats hardly plan their careers around the draft. That 2nd contract and having a long pro bowl career will make way more than a highly drafted QB that doesn't start.  I'd go for the Brees career over the Cam Newtone one personally.

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killernut4's picture

I'm not sure what your point is here?  Are you saying Tom and Drew chose to stay in college because they knew it benefited the longevity of their NFL career?  I'm not going to pretend to know/remember their college careers all that well, but I'm pretty positive neither one of them were projected to go top 10 after their junior seasons.  They also weren't first round picks when they did come out so I'm really struggling to see how Haskins situation is similar.  What I can tell you is those two are very smart financially, and the smart, financial decision here is to go pro.   

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fishleehooker's picture

Well you have a point. But my point is I can't think of any Qb that has gone on to a HoF career with one year of college starting Qb experience.  Cam Newton is the best I can think of, and he even had that year of Juco or whatever level of ball. I think one more year will make him a much better Qb at feeling the pass rush.  I think that is the only thing that he really needs work on, and it keep him from being an all time great at the pro level. One more yr of practice against Big Ten will be much better than against the pros.  One more year of coaching and preparing.  They will only invest about 2-3 years in a first round Qb, if he isn't ready to cut it, he is gone, contract and all. So why not get that extra year of coaching and take out an insurance policy?  He gets his food paid for and pretty much everything else and gets top-notch coaching for free, then goes on to make roughly that same amount in a rookie contract, with a better shot at a big 2nd contract. IMO. I support him either way and will likely root for his team hard. 

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VanillaStache's picture

Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round so he wasn't planning his career around the draft, he was just hoping to be on a squad. 

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costinjr's picture

This ^ so much. Haskins May be the Lebron of the draft (both this year and next, if he chooses), but would you rather be the Lebron in a draft with Jimmy Butler, or a draft we’re you’re evaluated against Kobe, Shaq, Durant and Curry - he still May be the best but it’s a numbers game. I still have no idea how people argue that he should come back. First round QB money is “fuck you” money. He could never play an NFL down and set himself and his kids and likely his grandchildren, if managed right, up for life. 

It is laughable when no-name fans on twitter say things like “I promise...you will be the best buckeye ever.” Cool, can you promise $18-20 million? That said, I’d love if he came back, but trophies don’t produce residuals. 

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kmp10's picture

Him coming back will only make his draft stock rise.

Maybe, but not certainly. Injuries, or a season far beneath his 2018 season could potentially lower his draft position. In addition, this year's QB class is polarizing, but almost all mocks have Haskins in the first round. Next year, who knows. A top 10 pick, especially a quarterback, will command somewhere between 10 and 25 million in signing bonus alone... that's guaranteed money just to sign your name. I'd love Haskins to return, but the money is multi-generational life changing money. 

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buckslan's picture

It's not like he's losing a chance to make money, he's just delaying it by 1 year.

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DowntownBuck's picture

The QB class this year is very weak. Next year he will be up against Tua, Fromm, et al...to make the most money he needs to go now. Ask Lienart how that decision worked out

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GunnerBuck's picture

That's not really accurate. We saw in this years draft that half the top 10 picks were QB's. Haskins is better than Fromm and everyone else who would declare for the draft outside of maybe Tua. 

If Haskins isnt a top 10 pick, he should come back IMO. The amount of money from say 5 to 20 is HUGE and another year of development would essentially lock him into a top 5 pick.

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DowntownBuck's picture

It is accurate. This year's QB class is terrible. The only other QB that could go first round is the kid from Oregon outside of DH. Next year could have 3-4...better if DH goes this year.

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costinjr's picture

I'm with you Downtown. This class is terrible, and it doesn't even matter if he's better than all the other QB's, he'll still be evaluated against them. If Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Mayfield were the only QBs to come out then they aren't eval'd against each other. Even if it's just Tua or Fromm -- the sideshow that would occur before the draft would make it more appealing to be the clear #1 in this class.

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GunnerBuck's picture

The amount of QB's in the class is irrelevant. As I just said, 4 of the top 10 picks in last years draft were QB's. Tell me, who has been more impressive than Haskins? Tua? Herbert? Fromm? At worst, he's #2 on that list. Given the amount of legit defensive lineman who ALWAYS command a premium and the lack of them next year, he'll have a better chance going top 5 (See Walter Camp, Tua #1 to the Dolphins and followed by 2 OL and 2 WR's...) Then the all mighty Daniel Jones from Duke at #6. 

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TeddyKGB's picture

Unless he gets injured. Tears a rotator cuff or a knee.

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The Rill Dill's picture

I’m just glad that you guys have it all figured out.

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fishleehooker's picture

To make the most money, its all about that 2nd contract and a long career, not getting drafted higher.  Getting drafted high is great, but not better than a long career and not many QBs have had a long career after only one year of preparation at the college level (starting anyway)

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VanillaStache's picture

You are out of your element. Not a single person would say that they would forego millions upon millions of dollars in order to develop another year so they can make it to their 2nd contract. In a game such as this you cannot plan on where you will be in your career in 6 years because one hit or even non-contact injury and you are done. 

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costinjr's picture

You don’t need a second contract to set yourself up. Do 5% (avg market return) x 20,000,000 = what you make annually on average.

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GunnerBuck's picture

A #5 pick gets 30+ million guaranteed. A 20 pick gets 10-11 mil. That is a huge chunk of change regardless of his overall career. 

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Roman Brutus's picture

a substantial mistake career wise? Only if career equals money earned then I guess you could phrase it that way but first off, career is way more than money earned and two, if he were to have a year as successful as this year, he would be number one overall pick with Heismann. You could make an argument that his overall career would be enhanced for staying another year with another year under his belt.

I think he wants to play another year at OSU. We know his dream was to be the QB here and having only one year might seem a bit short. If he loves playing at the college level which is probably much better than playing at the NFL level(for many this is true) where it becomes a job, then he just might stay. 

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Rockfordbuckeye's picture

Tough call - his talent is remarkable but he would benefit from another year of experience in leadership and decision making.  I support him either way. 

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osu992's picture

Dre'mont was "shocked" but Bosa's decision all season.

Do not recommend reading into this. He's messing with you to the extent he's even thinking about you.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Seems highly unlikely.  But I’d love nothing more than for him to come back.  

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

I don't see someone lobbying someone to a place they don't plan on being at. Would love to have Dwayne back but we shall see.

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Cooper's picture

Don’t take the bait, ladies and gents. Just friends being friends.

Also, K.J. Hill commented on the same post saying “Shitty, need a 5th year” and I’m cackling.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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gobucks1966's picture

He is just bustin chops this team can do with out Mike. He was a nice back but won't be missed. I know that sounds like a bad rap to Mike but he had to many carries as it was. Dobbins so much better.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

-1

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buckslan's picture

I really wish people would think before they post.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Lloyd, you cant triple stamp a double stamp!

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TheVictoryBell's picture

Hope so!

QB’s need experience. There aren’t any successful QB’s in the NFL that only started one year. 

Ohio State should offer him an insurance policy to return. 

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faux_maestro's picture

They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.

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faux_maestro's picture

There's also this from Weber last year. Haskins is just messing around. 

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AGAB's picture

It would be a terrible mistake for DH to return. With the core of the receiver corps and several key o linemen leaving, it will be difficult to replicate   this year's level of success. Frankly, fans are fickle, and I don't trust the fanbase to be supportive, if DH returns and doesn't meet or exceed this year's numbers. I remember the negative comments that were posted on this site during games this year. Why should he return and once again be called everything but a "child of God" ? This was the best passing season in the history of OSU football, and the likelihood of duplicating it is slim. I am thankful I was able to witness  his  amazing record setting season, and wish him fame and fortune in the NFL. 

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covey2's picture

Reading all the comments I had the same thoughts about the receivers and linemen. It would be great for the team if he returned to help the transition of the new starters, but for him personally it would be hard to repeat the success. I think he is a great qb that needs some polishing but he can get that sitting behind an already established starter that might be getting close to retiring.

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tcm1968's picture

It's about $$$$. If he's gotten his draft grade he hearing what everyone is saying.. if the Jags aren't super interested it's a one team race with the Giants and they would like to trade back and get him... He's hearing you leave you make around $14M... you come back and take the next step and you could make $34M. Basically $20M betting on himself.... and getting to play football next year. Most NFL people think he would sit for the bulk of the year...

And Haskins go to receiver is KJ Hill who some people think would come back if Haskins returns.... still have Mack, Victor and Olave... plus incoming Freshman Garrett Wilson who most people think is a day 1 starter... 

Michael Jordan hasn't announced yet.. he would hurt.. but Davis is an upgrade over Knox already. Pridgeon was ok.  Petit Ferer is a beast. That dude and Davis on the right side would be awesome... 

Offense can be just as explosive..

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JimmyVanP's picture

hes just messing around calm down

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Everybody is calm, just a discussion point on a discussion board. I apologize. /s

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obsessed_buckeye's picture

Does Mr Haskins stay & play for free (OK, he has a scholarship that's worth a few thousand dollars) one more year

He might. He might not. IMO, he's not because, through his own hard work & determination to be the best QB he can be, he's got an opportunity few people on this earth get and, my opinion again, he should take full advantage of it. He owes it to himself for the blood, sweat, & tears he's put into his craft. Would I be happy if he stayed? OF COURSE! Will I be disappointed if he leaves? Yes, purely for selfish sports fan reasons.

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wigmon's picture

A football scholarship at OSU is worth 6 figures plus.  I don't expect the reason he would stick around would be for that benefit.  I don't blame him at all if he goes.  There may be plenty of reasons for him to stay, depending on his goals.  Some goals can never be attained depending on the path chosen and obviously nothing is guaranteed regardless of that choice.  If the NFL/getting paid were his only or even primary goal, it wouldn't make much sense for him to play in the bowl game and "risk it all".

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FitzBuck's picture

Why would Haskins come back?  

Reasons would be Heisman, National title, gain experience, graduate, his girlfriend.  

He doesn’t need anymore experience to be a 1st round pick which sets him up financially to not need a degree.  His girlfriend could leave with him. That leaves a Heisman and National title.  If he believes in the YOLO philosophy and believes he can accomplish these goals and still have the NFL waiting next year it’s possible.  

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Monclovabuckeye's picture

When Haskins leaves he will still be a Buckeye fan. I believe he wrote this from a fan perspective.

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

He gone

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BuckAlum09's picture

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Shockersmad's picture

I personally think he's gone. But thinking about it. Why hasn't Haskins announced now? I think he's legitimately thinking about staying. UFM is retiring so why not Haskins announce. If we dont get it before the bowl then he is maybe torn on whether he should stay or go.

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Wyandot Buckeye Fan's picture

Dwayne isn't staying, he's a top 10 pick folks. Don't pull a Cardale Jones, Dwayne. Cardale cost himself millions of guaranteed money by not leaving a year early. And furthermore who calls a press conference at your high school to say your coming back?

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buckeye_in_WI's picture

Cardale Legend Jones skipped school to announce to high school kids who missed school to hear hes coming back to school.

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westy81585's picture

It wouldn't SHOCK me if he opted to stay; just because at this point his gotta know he's a top ten pick (so he's not waiting on the report), and he seems to want to accomplish more AT Ohio State (talked about it being his dream, etc, etc).  Stranger things have happened than a first round pick sticking around to accomplish big things in another year of college-ball.  

That said if I were a betting man I would be putting it on him announcing sometime in early-mid January that he's going.  Wanting to stay is one thing; once you actually sit down and weigh your options... most people go.  

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subUrbanBuck22's picture

He gone, just think he’s making it interesting

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fbllman's picture

I feel like this comment was to stir up some fun. I doubt Haskins returns, and I’ll wait until I hear it from him before I get excited about the prospects of a returning Haskins.

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bd2999's picture

I would love it if he stayed but there is little to make him stay unless he wants another shot at a title and the Heisman, but does that offset that he would easily be a top ten pick in the NFL draft? Just hard to square with that. So much money on the line to not go now.

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goodlifesean's picture

Seems like he's making a joke of all the people asking Haskins to stay another year. Pretty half assed attempt if it's real.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Dwayne Haskins has about the same chance of staying as Marshon Lattimore did when he did the very good Tweets after the 2016 season.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Michael Thomas did the same thing after 2015, too. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

From what I heard, Michael Thomas was legit contemplating it.

jedkat's picture

Well he certainly made the right friggin decision. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I don't know. Maybe if he stuck around, he could have been second team all-Big Ten.

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vroomery's picture

On a related note...does anyone know where Ryan Day is today? I heard some rumor news about a potential transfer and was trying to match up his recent travel schedule to see if it could be legit. I checked his twitter but he doesn't have much on there about his recruiting travels.

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DeacBuck's picture

Transfer he'd be trying to convince to come to OSU? If it's Khalil Tate, I'd really enjoy that.

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vroomery's picture

Not Tate, but it's a QB. Rumblings that Day had some contact through a HS coach as he hasn't official informed his current school of his desire to transfer. I was just wondering of Day might have been in his area checking up on other recruits before early signing day.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Whoa...is it happening?

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STLBuckeye11's picture

Tries to start a forum on this and it was deleted in about a minute

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vroomery's picture

Yes. Nothing confirmed, but there has been contact. 

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Earthoid.'s picture

Putting myself in his shoes, I can't come up with even one semi-good reason to come back.  On the flipside of that, there are about 25 good reasons not to come back.  If he does come back one can only assume that there is something going on behind the scenes that's preventing him from declaring.  

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Red Shirt Ensign's picture

One good reason... no Raiders!

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STU10's picture

Of course I would love for Haskins to return but Haskins is gone and that is fine, he is going to be a sure - fire 1st round pick, likely the same with D. Jones, I have no problem with it if you're definitely going to go in the top 30-40 picks -- BUT...

THE PROBLEM I have with OSU's 'culture' is when we have guys 'leave early' to go be 3rd,4th,5th, 6th, 7th, or even UDFA's lol....THAT'S a problem with your program when that is going on! --

OSU, w/o question has the most players 'leave early' for the NFL of any team in the country that are not going to be 1st or even 2nd round picks -- heck, Clemson had 2 DL actually come back last year who were locks for being top 10 picks of draft!! -- and we have guys taking off to go be 4th/5th rounders!? Pffffftt -- that's not a good thing for a CFB program to have going on...period.

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GunnerBuck's picture

As good as Clemson has been, they don't have guys leave early because they don't have the roster. The guys you're talking about leaving early who are late round picks/UDFA's leave because they won't be starting the next year. Ohio St has a top 2/3 roster in the nation, Clemson does not. That's also not a slight at Clemson, they're a damn good football team, they just don't have the depth of Ohio St, Bama, etc. 

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Dmac3212's picture

If we want to get real cryptic Haskins just like Haskins tweet about staying in school to come back for one more year

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ChristianHaven's picture

I hope he stays.  It would do him good, and the team good.
But the lure of millions $$ is very great.

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CowCat's picture

With his head coach retiring and most of the WRs and OL changing, I can understand him leaving.

But there are reasons to stay: Completing his education, his close relationship with Ryan Day, etc. College is one of the best times you'll ever have in your life and Dwayne is a superhero in Columbus. Fame is fleeting in the NFL unless you're Tom Brady or Drew Brees.

It's really up to him and his family to determine his goals.

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