Rage Against the Machine getting snubbed is a travesty. Janet Jackson? GTFOH
Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe
No Iron Maiden, Judas Priest or Rush in the hall? What a joke.
Rush got in several years ago.
You are correct. Just swap Rush with the Scorpions on my list of who got screwed.
When I think RRHOF, in addition to Black Sabbath, Van Halen, AC/DC, and Zeppelin, I think of... Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, and Run DMC? No, I do not. That entire entity is a bigger farce than the FBS CFP.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Ms. Jackson, if you're nasty!
I totally agree Kmp10. It's getting ridiculous.
“Ain’t life grand when you finally hit it!” DLR
Janet Jackson's "Black Cat" is more rock and roll than anything the Cure moped about and recorded, but I understand the sentiment.
Radiohead doesn't exactly scream rock and roll either.
Leppard should have been in waaay before Nirvana.
Foreigner getting snubbed is one of the biggest crimes. Tons of hits, and their first five albums went 5X, 7X, 5X, 6X, and 3X platinum, in that order. That's serious success, period.
Run DMC used a lot of rock elements in their music. "Kings of Rock," "Rock Box," and "Walk This Way" (w/ Areosmith) are just a few of their songs that blend rock & rap well.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Rage was an entire culture for a vacuum of time. Them not being including is close to as bad as when Rush got snubbed all those years.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Got my two in. Would have been a disgrace to not get Radiohead and The Cure in. Janet Jackson proves the selectors are running a farce, but it's still critical to get the right people in there to maintain some legitimacy.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
Would have been a disgrace to not get Radiohead and The Cure in.
Amen. Can’t wait to watch these performances. Who do you think Radiohead and Robert Smith will have induct them? That’s an interesting thing to think about.
“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.
Yay Radiohead! Tempted to go up to the rock hall when they add Radiohead stuff since the top floor is usually for the new inductees. Just went last year and it's not something that needs to be done often, but they're my favorite band so it would be interesting to see.
The thing is, Radiohead couldn't care less about this so I don't know how much stuff of theirs the Rock Hall would get their hands on anyway.
Seems they provided a politically correct response compared to their previous thoughts on the Hall.
“The members of Radiohead have been surprised to learn of the band’s induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2019. The band thanks the Hall of Fame voting body and extends congratulations to this year’s fellow inductees,”
The chili con carnival must have been a real eye opening moment for them.
Cue the Rock and Roll vs Rock music yearly debate....
Basically it's dudes over 50 claiming nothing after their glory days is worthy of nomination/enshrinement into the RR HoF.
nah I think its more like people being sick of seeing acts that have zero affiliation to rock and roll getting into the hall.
It has nothing to do with someones glory days
That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
Are Motown acts rock n' roll? What's your criteria-powerchords, % of fans w/ mullets, being on the playlist at Buttrock 105?
This year it looks like the % of fans that wear black trench coats and have 10 bumper stickers for Dirge 101.1 and Gloom 102.5
Hell yeah-old school 80s goth/industrial/stuff that pisses off mullet-heads rules!
Glad to see Def Leppard in. One of my favorites.
In all seriousness they just need to drop the "Rock and Roll" part and just call it the World Music Hall of Fame. When Janet Jackson and LL Cool J are in you've crossed a threshold you can never go back from
"Success: It's What You Do With What You've Got"- Wayne Woodrow Hayes
The fact that you call Janet Jackson a big name and Radiohead just ‘joining’ makes me laugh.
In defense of those who would so phrase it...two other musical acts made Jackson a big name.
Yup. I would say Radiohead is probably the biggest band out of that group. Radiohead and The Cure should be in out of this group. Kind of weird thinking of Def Leppard as HOF worthy. Good music but HOF? While Rory Gallagher is still not being considered? Pretty weak class this year in my opinion.
The Cure is not a rock band, and Leppard is a far bigger band than Radiohead in terms of success and longevity.
Back to back albums with over 10 million in sales. There are very few bands that can claim that, and the others are in.
Rory Gallagher? Absolutely.
The HOF is full of bands that aren’t rock. I don’t think of bands getting in on just records sales. Their influence and contribution to the music industry is also an important factor for getting in. The Cure and Radiohead have been a huge influence on the industry in my opinion. Same reason I think Rory and The Smith’s should have been in by now. Duran Duran is another. Def Leppard has some great songs and albums. I just don’t think their influence is on par with many of the others in the hall and bands that continue to be left out.
The Cure most certainly are a rock band-and rock harder than plenty of other RRHof members.............
If that's the best example, that's pretty sad. Like I said upthread, Black Cat is more rock than anything the Cure put out.
In regards to currently touring bands, Radiohead is by and far the biggest.
Except the HOF is about a performer's entire career, not just who's currently big.
That would imply musicians have to be retired before they are eligible which isn’t the case. McCartney, Springsteen, U2, Elton John, Stewart, Young, Metallica, etc are still going strong.
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record.
That should be increased to 40 years.
I like the 25 years personally. Gives many of them a better chance to be at their induction ceremony for a speech. I do get where you are going with it though.
Radiohead has been big for touring their entire career. Def Leppard isn't selling out arenas any more.
IMO, the people who squawk the loudest about this group or that group not meeting the 'criteria" for the RR HoF-didn't sell enough records, not "rock" enough-are really complaining that it isn't the FM Radio HoF-b/c that is what they want-whatever groups crush it on Oldies and Classic rock format radio stations-they are worthy. Anyone else-even if hugely popular/influential-no go-they don't get played on Oldies 103.5 or Buttrock 97, so they get dissed for the HoF by a certain segment of the population. James Hetfield said it best when he said there are people who listen to albums and CDs in their car and people who just listen to whatever is on the FM station, and it is very hard to get the later group to listen to anything not on the radio, so why worry about it.
Actually Leppard did quite well in arenas this year. Of course they were co-headlining with Journey, but still.
Next years class should include Slim Whitman and Zamfir. Vote early and vote often.....
The only true worry we should have about this 2019 team is this:
Why is Sevyn Banks wearing number 12?
The R&R Hall of Fame is a commercial enterprise by Jan Wenner. I don't pretend it is some noble entity or award. I hope Radiohead skips the ceremony and ignores it. It is a popularity contest. It is laughable that '90s bands like Pearl Jam are in, and other older more worthy groups are not. And metal is all but ignored.
They charge the bands inducted tens of thousands of dollars for a table, and to bring friends. It is a shit organization.
Agreed. The bands not yet inducted would make up a decent Hall of Fame by themselves.
Didn't they do the ceremony in Cleveland for a little bit?
"Let me quote the late great Cornel Sanders, I'm to drunk to taste this chicken"
I think it's supposed to be once every four years.
The ceremony alternates between Cleveland and New York each year. http://www.futurerocklegends.com/Induction_Ceremonies.php
The way the RRHOF does selection is a bit odd to me. There process is to induct "acts" ie either a solo artist or a band, and not individual people
Take someone like Paul Rodgers. He sang All Right Now with Free and then his success with Bad Co. Made a couple decent albums with Jimmy Page in The Firm. And later even toured with Queen
RS mag once ranked him in the top 100 singers of all time at 55, and received the British Academy's Ivor Novello Award for Outstanding Contribution to British Music, was nominated for a Grammy as a solo artist, has probably sold over 40 million albums worldwide in his career including 3 platinum and 3 gold albums with Bad Co and 2 more Gold albums with the Firm
But,,, because none of these "acts" individually have risen to the level of the board feeling them worthy of induction, arguably one of the best singers in rock history is left out.
Or someone like Jack White who may still get in for the White Stripes who will be eligible in 6 more years, but if not how do you leave someone of his individual talent out? Ffom the Stripes, to Dead Weather, to the Racontuers, to his own solo career.
Peter Frampton is an older guy who fits this mold, from Herd to Humble Pie to his solo career or a more current artist like Steven Wilson who has his own solo albums, Porcupine Tree, to Blackfield, to Storm Corrosion, to IEM, Bass Communion to No-Man, he is actually eligible now as Porcupine Tree's debut was 26 years ago
Great point on individual people but I think that has more to do with the amount of spots they take in every year. They do allow some individuals in. Phil Spector off the top of my head would be one. All of the Beatles individually are in. A lot of individuals could be in. What’s interesting with seeing Radiohead go in is the fact that The Smiths are not in yet and you can hear their influence all over music today. Johnny Marr could get in on his own for his contribution to the industry. You can hardly listen to Radiohead without hearing his influence in there.
So many good groups have been snubbed but getting Janet Jackson in over the Guess Who is inexcusable. Heck Paul Revere and the Raiders, Johnny Rivers, and Steppenwolf should be in before her!
They should be in before Radiohead and the Cure too.
How about some love for The Zombies? What a great sound they had; what I guess would be considered Baroque Rock, from back in the mid to late 60's. Led by Rod Argent on keyboards and Colin Blunstone, lead vocals, this unique British Invasion band had three top 10 hits with, "She's Not There," Tell Her No," and "Time of the Season;" along with several other great songs, including "I Love You." If you aren't familiar with this group and their sound, check 'em out! I think you will like what you hear!
They didn't write it but I love their version of 'Summertime' as well.
They didn't write it but I love their version of 'Summertime' as well.