Skull Session: Garrett Wilson Hints at Urban Meyer's New Role, Ryan Shazier's Miraculous Rehab, and Jim Delany Talks Title Game Changes

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BBQ_Fan's picture

Khaki pants chased off by the sight of gold pants. Amazing. You would think he could find a way be good natured about it to a former player's mother.

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BucksHave7's picture

Arsenio Hall wants his puffy XXXL Starter jacket back. 

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dan_isaacs's picture

When I was reading the article, I could only see half that pic, and I thought it was a Packers coat.  

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BucksHave7's picture

At least the packers haven’t lost to the Buckeyes!!!

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MichiBuck12's picture

I don't want to be the guy to defend him. But Jim Harbaugh clearly has some issues socially. I can totally see how he would be the type to react poorly when hes caught off guard. Its probably his best move to get out of there before he says or does something really dumb. 

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blueblazer22's picture

I wouldn't say you are defending him, more giving him an out for just generally being a doofus. He should be smart enough to know that wearing that getup where he was, and being who he is, that it would be nearly impossible for someone not to say something to him. 

All's that ends well since he got owned. Leave us now Jimmy, and forever. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

Thats true. And when he wears a jacket that was made when he played for them, its to be expected that he gets some grief. Perhaps he was trying to look like just another walmart wolverine and be incognito about being in Columbus.

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

If you can't take the heat, get the hell out of Columbus.

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osu78's picture

If you can't take the heat, get the hell out of Columbus.

He does, as fast as he can, at least 2x times so far...

What did he expect? "Hi Jim, marry my daughter?"

The comments on the thread are a good read.

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Major H's picture

If you can't take the heat, get the hell out of Columbus. Ohio!

 FIFY! Especially if you're down here poaching players!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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c11058's picture

He wore that jacket on purpose. 

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BBQ_Fan's picture

I agree he has an awkwardness about him. I doubt she said "Hey Hairball, you suck" which he probably hears in some circumstances. Maybe a smile and a "You have a good day ma'am, and we'll see you in Ann Arbor next year. Sorry I need to call a future Wolverine now" or something versus getting "pissed off". The coach needs some coaching.

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CowCat's picture

I agree that Harbaugh took the high road. He just walked out.

But he got owned by an OSU mama. If we get them again in Ann Arbor, I think he's done.

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LCT's picture

Yep. I have to say I'm kind of disappointed. I'd have guessed Harbaugh had a better sense of humor.

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Nutinpa's picture

Leery

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Temperment

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well I just saw...didn’t occur to me sooner...Hairball was in Cbus to visit w my 3rd cousin, Joey Velazquez also. He signed w ttun. He was committed to tOSU to play baseball but Hairball offered him football, saying he could play both. 

Atleast Hairball took his shoes off  

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Buckeyeneer's picture

"He’s lucky I didn’t have all four!"

Not as catchy, but a nice update of "because I couldn't go for three"

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thedewman10's picture

hmmmmm...I wonder if this pic was before or after the Harrison visit. If he was not in a good mood already that would explain being ticked off by, what everyone in the world would consider, good natured ribbing. 

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BuckZealot's picture

Here's hoping!

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brutus0717's picture

I'm a happily almost married man, but I found the love of my life yesterday, and her name is Joshua Perry's Mom. That's some baller shit right there.

Go on and do the damn thing, Ryan Shazier. He's way past what I ever thought he'd get back. I'm starting to think he may actually play again, which would be nothing short of miraculous!

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Buctor's picture

Wonder if he wants to be a college football coach.  Imagine the credibility he would have! 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

No offense to you or Josh’s mom but I’m in love with Jesse’s Girl.

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brutus0717's picture

Nah, you just wish you had her.

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SnGinWV's picture

I prefer Jenny 

I got her # 867-5309 

how do you like them apples 

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brutus0717's picture

Fat bottom girls are all the rage

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osu78's picture

They make the rocking world go round...

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

“Wow, a song named after a girl...”

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brutus0717's picture

Somehow I was still expecting to get RickRolled.

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Sorry guys but banter is a premium feature of this site. You each owe $1.15 to the fund for the silliness posted so far.

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MassiveAttack's picture

I have to say that, "Stacy's mom has got it going on."

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I like Apple Bottom Jeans....and the boots with the fur.
 

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denniscolumbus's picture

I dunno. Stacy’s mom has got it going on. 

Class of 2001 - classless since then.

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I prefer Sylvia’s Mother.

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Aint no fun if the homies cant have none.

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Gratefulbuck's picture

The operator says .40 more, for the next three minutes. 

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BucksHave7's picture

I don’t like the 2 top teams in B10 Champ game. Because a rematch is likely.. 

We should consider swapping Sparty for IL in the divisions. Think it’s less disruptive and accomplishes same.  Maybe there is a better swap out there, but you get the idea.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

It’s interesting that Delany said earlier this week that the CFP doesn’t define the B1G and yet he wants a more competitive pairing in the CCG. Those two positions seem contradictory to me. What’s the point of the latter if not to impact the former? And how do you in good conscience tell a team that won its division that it’s not good enough to get a shot at winning its conference? 

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MichiBuck12's picture

Maybe he should have gone to bat for us instead of coming up with dumbass ideas. The CFP is clearly a political process with the committee and the media working together. Every other conference commissioner campaigned on behalf of their team. The SEC went hard on trying to get a 2 loss Georgia team in. And Delaney did absolutely nothing. 

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BucksHave7's picture

We are not on a level playing field.

There was an undefeated team, non Conf Champ that played a game less than rest.  Eye test is ND sucks, seriously, they are a 12 pt Dog v the team seeded 1 higher spot?   ND was gifted the chance to be blown out, 9 out of 10 times. 

And a 2 loss Non Champ SEC team ahead of 1 loss Conference Champs.  A 1 loss Non Champ I would be ok with, but NO WAY a 2 loss NonChamp. They had 2 chances (not 1) and blew both.

As long as we have Mullens, OR AD who is 0-8 v tOSU with personal axes to grind leading the committee, the playoff needs to go to 8 teams with 5 slots for the 5 P5 Champs plus 3 at large.  That way the committee can only screw around w 3 other teams. 

Only talking 1 extra game for the 2 teams in the Championship game.  So Bama cuts out its FCS OOC games. 

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TMac's picture

Eight is Great!  for soo many reasons. Even better if they would have the first round on campus, as a real reward for those four teams and their fans. 

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denniscolumbus's picture

Even better if they would have the first round on campus, as a real reward for those four teams and their fans. 

What? And potentially have a southern team play north of the Mason Dixon line?  /s

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MichiBuck12's picture

We are definitely not on a level playing field. We play 9 conference games to the SEC and ACC's 8. We also don't play FCS schools like they do. Georgias non conference schedule was absolute dog shit. We have two wins better than their best, and one fewer loss. The only way they're ahead of us in the rankings is because its a political process. We don't even need to expand the playoff. The simplest solution is just make conference title a requirement for entry into the playoff. Done. Then you don't have to worry about forcing all the conferences to play by the same rules from a scheduling standpoint. Play all the cupcakes you want, but if you don't win your conference, you don't get in. Conversely, you can play big time games in the non conference without it hurting your chances. We would actually see better scheduling as a result. Conference championship games become defacto playoff games. And by keeping it at 4 you ensure that the system is covered in the event that an 8-4 Northwestern or 7-5 Pitt somehow manages to win their title game because you still have 4 other deserving champs. Plus it forces Notre Dame to quit their arrogant dip shittery and join up. They're not special and its about damn time the NCAA stopped treating them like they were. Also, Rudy was offsides.

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blueblazer22's picture

MB out here layjng down the truth. All correct, in particular the ND part. The time is way past where they should be able to call their own shots in football. 

Rudy was offsides indeed, and he still sucks. 

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ChristopherBarnhouse's picture

Also, 9 conf game vs 8. No FCS teams on schedule. Media and committee don't give BIG10 any credit for that.

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buckits's picture

Buckshave7 - I can't upvote this enough.

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PhillyNut's picture

You could move both Michigan schools to the west and move Indiana and Purdue to the east or just shift one of each as you say. Really bad idea to move towards the Big 12 structure. Don't do it unless the other conferences do it. Bama gets Georgia once every 5 years in their regular schedule, same for Florida. That is by design knowing that those schools are normally powers every year.

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BucksHave7's picture

The West is a joke in terms of football.  Something needs to be done to change it. 

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BuckZealot's picture

The only cautionary note I would sound here is Iowa, Purdue, and the fact that Northwestern played us tight through a good chunk of the game

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Reuben's picture

If he cares about the playoff, he should make the B1G go back to 8 conference games. They’ll have to do that anyway when the playoff expands. (A guy can dream!)

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yantubos's picture

The real stinky part about this is that the B1G not playing cupcakes was supposed to help B1G teams make the playoff (strength of schedule) and it has pretty much done the opposite. I'd say this experiment failed. The CFP is still a political process. Win all your games (unless SEC) and your strength of schedule doesn't matter.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Here's a fun thought experiment.

Georgia, according to Bill Connelly, has the 3rd best "strength of schedule" this year despite 2 losses.  Why so high do you ask, when they played Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, UMass and Georgia Tech in their OOC?  Because they had wins over ranked SEC teams South Carolina (finished 7-5), UK (finished 9-3), Florida (finished 9-3) and Auburn (finished 7-5) with losses to ranked LSU (finished 9-3) and Alabama.  

What would happen if the SEC went to a 9 game schedule, would that improve strength of schedule?  In theory it sounds like it would.  The Big Ten employs kind of a weighted cross division scheduling mechanism so that top teams are more likely to play each other cross division.  In the SEC, you have protected cross division rivalries for example Tennessee and Alabama always play each other.  Georgia and Auburn always play, etc, so I wouldn't expect the SEC to do anything but round robin (potentially with home and homes every 2 years rotating). 

In any case, you replace a guaranteed win against an FCS team with a conference foe, which means on average every SEC team gains half a loss per year across the board.  So with Georgia's schedule this year, you might end up with South Carolina, UK, and LSU adding an extra loss they wouldn't have had.  They end up at 6-6, 8-4, and 8-4 over all.  So what would their supposed strength of schedule look like now that those teams have that record?  It probably takes an aggregate hit in most metrics, despite the fact that switching an FCS team for a conference foe ought to improve the strength of schedule.  We can clearly see here that it would actually do the reverse.

Is this a problem with our metrics?  Absolutely.  You can't compare strength of schedule between conferences who have a different number of teams and who play a different number of games.  Because you can see in the case of the SEC, it causes a rankings boost for its member teams simply because of an average of half a loss less per team.

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buckits's picture

Well said and completely agree.  I want to say I can't believe this isn't being discussed more but I'm actually not surprised unfortunately.  

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armynurseboy's picture

It doesn't matter how many times SEC team lose or what their end of year record is, the accepted narrative right now (fueled by a biased sports media) is the SEC is so head and shoulders above everyone else that they play a murder's row through the conference.  While that was certainly true 10 years ago, that is NOT true today. They just continue to reap the benefit of the doubt.

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KeithByarsRightFoot's picture

This idea is beyond stupid. B1G East teams already have to play through an absolute meatgrinder schedule (Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State). Now you're going to subject the winner to a rematch? The B1G may never field another playoff team again.

If you win the East, there's no shame being fed a B1G West cupcake in the CCG. And heck, every so often Wisconsin gets enough 5th-year seniors on its roster to make a credible run, so there's still that.

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osu78's picture

I also don't like the idea of seeding teams vs. the current divisional champs playing. How do you decide who is best? For example, is a 2 loss PSU better than a 3 loss NW if PSU's losses were to us and NW? What if you have 3 teams with equal records vying for a spot, but some had conference losses and others no conference losses? All of a sudden, OOC games can have a big impact on your chances to reach the CFP, especially if your only loss was in a marquee OOC matchup. You might not get a chance to overcome an early loss if you get left out of the B1G CG since you would not have a championship win. conference. Let's say a team gets blown out OOC by a top 4 team, but runs the table afterwards, beating an undefeated team on a last minute score in the last game. What happens now? Play each other again and leave out a team in the other division with the same or better record? Pick the team that was higher in the CFP playoff rankings, even if the lost their last game? Stop playing tough OOC games and replace them with chickenshit Saturday games?

I doubt anyone would be happy with whatever format they chose; plus NW earned the right to play by winning. So what if they are not viewed as a strong opponent? They won when it counted and shouldn't be left out because some group of folks want a "better" game.

As for the CFP, they have proven still can take a second school from a conference if they want.

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Roman Brutus's picture

I think they should scrap all champ games and take top 8 teams and start playoff on that weekend.

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BuckZealot's picture

^^^Now this is great either a six team play off for an eight team playoff is where this will eventually go I believe. And I hope it is soon. 

Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

With only eight seasons of two-division data to go on (going back to 2011) it's hard to draw concrete conclusions. But, from what we've seen so far, 2016 and 2018 are the only two seasons where the top two teams would've come from the same division and ensured a rematch.

Six out of eight seasons, the two teams with the best conference records have been in separate divisions. Even with that, the CCG featured a rematch in 2011 (MSU-Wisconsin) and 2012 (Wisconsin-Nebraska, if OSU were allowed to play it still would've been a rematch), but those years the conference only had 12 teams, so you had 50/50 odds of playing the other division leader in X-division games.

Bottom line is it's just as likely as not that you see a rematch in the CCG whether you go division winner or best two teams.

What's just as interesting is that since breaking into divisions eight years ago, there have only been three times that a conference championship game would've been needed to determine the conference champion: 2013 MSU-OSU, 2016 OSU-PSU, 2018 OSU-UM. The other five years the conference could've named a champion based on conference records. It might not have been the best team in 2011, 2012, 2015, or 2017, but they could've forgone the CCG. 

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2016 and 2018 are the only two seasons where the top two teams would've come from the same division and ensured a rematch.

In 2018 you had 3 teams with 1 loss in conference.  In a 3 way tie, as it currently stands,  you look at the records between those teams, so you have Ohio State at 1 with a 1-0 record, then Michigan at 1-1, then NW at 01.  Based on that you either still don't need a championship game due to tiebreakers, or, not considering tie breakers, you have 3 teams tied at the top. So I don't think this is really a great example year.  In 2016, likewise, you had 2 teams tied at the top, but PSU had the head to head over us. 

For this year, and we went with two best teams in conference, what if Northwestern had played anyone else cross division?  They might have been undefeated in conference and still be selected to play in the championship game with 3 losses overall.  In that regard, would Michigan get the nod anyway due to higher ranking?  That's a dangerous path to take.  Otherwise it changes nothing so why bother?

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Or better yet, completely dropping Illinois from the B1G

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

I too detest rematches.  The B10 is unique and the best conference in NCAA.  I’m not talking quality of teams.  That’s cyclical.  I’m talking quality of schools.

If Delany is concerned about playoffs; here’s my solution.  Throw out Nebraska, Penn State, Maryland and Rutgers.  Go to a 9 game conference schedule.  No need for a championship game.  

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BucksHave7's picture

I see what you are saying.  But Delaney would never discard the NYC and Washingtont DC media Mkts.  Nor the geographic expansion that NE gives Conf.

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Blackcoffee's picture

Yes because staging the B1G basketball tourrney in Madison Square Garden was a raging success. sarcasm font

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MichiBuck12's picture

TV revenues are great and all. But heres my issue. The B1G hasn't won a national title in basketball since Y2K was a thing. Yet people are still interested in watching because they feel connected to teams in the conference. But if you keep turning your nose up at the people who feel connected, at some point they stop feeling connected and then stop watching. The beauty of the tournament being in Indy is that its centrally located, and the town is essentially built specifically for the purpose of hosting these type of events. How many people are going to tune in that otherwise would not have just because the games are played in MSG? And is that number higher than the number of people who will watch on TV because their buddies went to Indy and they wanted to go but couldn't. I know I have fallen into the latter category a handful of times. I'm not big into basketball. If the Buckeyes are good I might watch. But I tune in when the tourney is in Indy because my friends go, I've gone with them before, but the last couple times I wasn't able to go with them. I watched anyway because I had special memories associated with it. I watched zero seconds of the tournament at MSG last year. I doubt I'm alone. Does MSG pick up enough new viewers to replace the viewers like me? If so, by all means, go for it. But I doubt it.

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BucksHave7's picture

Why are you only focusing on the physical location of the B10 Hoops tourney?

Its 99% about the highly populous cities (and surrounding areas) of NYC and Washington DC that sell B10 Network subscriptions and merchandise.  

Another Example....we might not have snagged Luther Mohammed out of Jersey City if Rutgers wasnt a B10 school. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

Because the comment you were responding to was specifically about the physical location of the B1G hoops tourney...

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BucksHave7's picture

I can care less where they have the B10 hoops tourney. 

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Blackcoffee's picture

Its a major conference tourney. It had to be played immediately following the last conference games and well before most conferences had tourneys because another confernce got primetime for their tourney at MSG. Look I get what you are saying bout major markets tv etc. But I am sure Delaney is kicking himself with the addition of Rutgers and Maryland because...they are dumpster fires in football, and no amount of tv revenues will probably compensate for the negatives(perception) they have brought to the conference as a whole. Nah, Delaney miscalculated and with the absence of the BIG from the CFP for two years running is driving that point home. About Luther Mohammed and the New Jersey market maybe, maybe not.

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BucksHave7's picture

Can you provide us some data on NYC and Wash being a headache to Delaney.

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osu78's picture

Nah. The B1G is first and foremost a collection of large research universities. The impact of adding 2 large prestigious research institutions and their ability to attract grant money far outweighs sports revenue.

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For those not paying attention Osu78 just explained the expansion very succinctly. Follow the money and the real money is in Federal research grants not sports. EOS.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Sheeit! tOSU games still get more viewers than all late comer to the B10 teams’ games combined.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Gold Pants apparently work on Hairball like garlic to a vampire.  Send a photograph of a set to every recruit with a cover letter asking them to hang it in a place of prominence in the living room.  That would destroy Hairball’s in-home.

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TMac's picture

Don't we have to assume Jimmy's visit is Zach Harrison related, and so wouldn't it be appropriate to send Josh Perry's mom over just to show off her jewelry?

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Won’t assume.  Don’t care.  If a player can watch that beat down and still wants to commit to that shit show in whoreville, he’s too stupid to play for us anyway.

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CarolinaBuck's picture

Ryan Shazier is simply an inspirational young man.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I honestly can’t remember: is Shazier done playing football and simply rebuilding his body to live a normal life or is he working toward a comeback? 

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brutus0717's picture

Last I heard a comeback was in the works.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Last he said, he's working towards a comment.

Brutus's picture

Last he said..

So then he already made a comment. Nothing more to work towards.  Way to go Ryan.  Mission accomplished.

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Dillon G's picture

RDS. My goodness.

Cheers to Friday.

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Deano's picture

I don’t see the need to overreact  after one year and abandon divisions.  Usually 8-1 teams in Big Ten play (including a 6-0 within their division) don’t couple that to 0-3 out of conference record with an Akron loss. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Right. At the start of the season, Northwestern, Pitt, and Utah would’ve been unlikely picks to win their divisions. 

If Delany were to go to eight games, it would guarantee the majority of B1G teams another win and half would have one less loss. Most of those extra OOC games would be home games, which means more game day revenue. The problem is most of them would also be scheduled against cupcakes and those matchups become less enticing to season ticket holders. 

Personally, I’d love to see an annual ACC-B1G challenge like they do in basketball. Every team is guaranteed a home game every other year. Matchups would be determined based on preseason projections—top versus top. 

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osu78's picture

Personally, I’d love to see an annual ACC-B1G challenge like they do in basketball. Every team is guaranteed a home game every other year. Matchups would be determined based on preseason projections—top versus top. 

That was planned with the PAC 12 but realignment killed it, unfortunately.

An 8 team CFP could revive it, since conference champs would be assured a slot so an early OOC loss would have no impact on their chances of making the CFP with 1 loss as long as they win the championship. The revenue potential would be huge; plus you could add other big games OOC as well since they would no longer impact the CFP unless you don't win the championship.  If you kept two at large spots for the highest ranked conference runner ups that would help mitigate the impact as well. It would not be unreasonable to do that since the odds are at least 2 teams will be at large teams from the P5.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

That cancelled agreement with the Pac 12 was a bummer.

I personally think Ohio State should play Cal in Berkeley or Stanford in Palo Alto every single year.

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User name checks out.

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MichiBuck12's picture

I hate the idea of a rematch with that team. The rivalry is so massive and takes so much energy from both sides that it simply is not possible to do it twice and have the quality remain. Additionally, you can't have a championship between the two best teams in a 14 team conference unless we switch to a 13 game conference schedule. It works for the Big 12 because they only have ten teams. Everybody plays everybody, and the two best meet for a rematch. It also works because they don't have a rivalry like we do. Sure the Red River rivalry is cool, but its not Ohio State-Michigan. 'The Game' is the B1G's brand. Playing it twice a year would cheapen it, and thus the brand along with it.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

But with UM being so bad for the last two decades, this is the first season it would've happened with the division structure. You have to go back to 2007 for an OSU-UM rematch to have been possible. Before that, UM and OSU finished 1/2 or 2/1 after the regular season only in 2003, 1997, 1992, 1986, 1982, and 1980.  You have to go back to the Ten Year War to find consecutive seasons (1972-77) that Ohio State and Michigan finished at the top of the conference after the regular season.

(Note: I know someone is going to scream about 2006. Wisconsin and UM had the same conference records after The Game. OSU and Wisconsin had not played, so I'm assuming that would've been the CCG).

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Belliott's picture

I’m 100% on board with bill connolly’s Pod system for conferences. 

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libera's picture

I may be mistaken but does not Cooper have an office in the athletic department and did not Bruce have one? I don't see any problem with Urban having an office and I would not have a problem with JT having one if he would choose to do so. Lots of football brain power for Day to get advice from.

I agree with you about "do overs". Have always hated them. Go back to the 80's when OSU had a chance for a NC. The Buckeyes beat UCLA during the regular season but met them in the Rose Bowl and got beat. Look at Texas and Oklahoma this year. 

libera

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NW Buckeye's picture

Yes, all former retired coaches are offered an office in the Woody.  

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

It makes me feel better knowing Urbs will still be around. Love that guy.

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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CorchUrb's picture

We all know Urban is going to be with the team a lot next year. Im sure he’s going to be in there breaking down film with his protege and son in law all the time.

I wish I saw Harbaugh at Kroger. I wouldn’t even have said anything to him. I just would’ve started laughing at him hysterically.

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osu78's picture

Nah. I'd tell him he can get some championship gear on Aisle 4.

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Man if Shazier doesn’t inspire to get up and at the very least walk up the stairs today instead of taking the elevator then your heart is in the wrong place, and probably full of cholesterol 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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esap153's picture

I agree about the Conference matchup. I think rematches in college football are meaningless, they prove nothing when at best you get a split. How many teams would like to get a do-over?! I'm sure Ohio State would've loved a rematch with Purdue this year on a neutral field, especially after weeks of being laughed at for one of the all-time bone-headed games I've personally witnessed! Beating a good team twice is really tough to do, respect the result and move on.

In the NFL, teams play division opponents twice, home and home, for actual playoffs. The season doesn't simply end with questions.

Let me ask you this, who was a better team between Texas and Oklahoma this year, who split a pair of neutral site games?

I know most would say Oklahoma, but what if it was Texas who lost midseason by a field goal, got to hear the noise about losing for a few weeks before getting a rematch against an Oklahoma team touted as playoff worthy? I would give Tom Herman a shot, especially with a healthy Ehlinger or whatever his name is.

My point is that it convolutes further and adds more questions.

Or a team wins twice and we go "I guess they really were the better team!"

Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Harbaugh being Harbaugh-haha!

The idea of scrapping divisions terrible, unless the BIG goes with a 13 game conference season, which is not possible. It was an anomaly this season for the BIG. This was the SEC a couple of years ago with Florida winning the East. The BIG West will improve.

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blueblazer22's picture

The Pearl Harbor link is one to check out, particularly on this day. Thank a vet indeed. My dad was born on June 5, 1944 and as such has a definite connection to the other side of WWII, and he served overseas as well. 

It makes sense that Urban would have an office I suppose, but assuming he does the talking head thing, how often will he really be there? I would agree that it sounds nice in theory, but Day doesn't need that especially in year one. 

As for JimBaugh, blah. Stay up north where you belong. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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Dillon G's picture

Your dad is a pre-baby boomer. Same time frame, just before. 

#walkaway

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Pearl - I had 2 Uncles who not only served in WWII, they were both at Normandy-D Day, one at Utah and one at Omaha. Both came home and lived long lives. The younger of the two also served in Korea and Vietnam. Cancer late in life and Agent Orange was to blame, in his mind. I remember getting Private Ryan when it came out. He happened to be over shortly after and I said something about watching it. He said, “what for, I was there”. 

Greatest Generation

* My Dad was younger. He served overseas during Korea as a Tank Commander. 

“For me, this is who we are. We have a culture. We work at it very hard. And we’re efficient at it.” - Coach Day

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Breakawayspeed's picture

My Father ..may he rest in Peace, was stationed at Pearl Harbor ( Hickam Air Field) when it all went down.  I could never get him drunk enough for him to describe what he saw and felt.  He later saw close quarters action at Guadalcanal that was just as traumatic. He was just 18 at the time and the experience wasn't easy to forget or put behind him.

My aunt said it best, " I've shed a thousand tears over what that war did to Ronald." Thanks for your service Dad   

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osu78's picture

My late dad was a WWII and Korea vet; and i grew up in an Army town where most of the dads and many teachers were WWII vets as well. If they talked about it is was about the fun stuff or crazy things that happened. 

One teacher flew B-24s out of Italy and regularly bombed my war bride mom's home town.

My late god father landed at Normandy and earned a Bronze Star; something I never knew until years after he died.

Met a sailor who was on the Reuben James. He was surprised when I asked him about it as most people have no idea who she was.

My dad once told me the first time he shaved was on the banks of the Rhine River "after they captured a bridge" I later found his DD214 and a map of where he fought, which include the Battle of the Bulge and through Germany to the end of the war.

Greatest Generation indeed. They helped save the world but you wouldn't know it from talking with them.

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

My 19 year old Dad was in that Battle of Bulge - I believe it was officially called the Rhineland Campaign. That war was literally a nightmare for him the rest of his life.

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thedewman10's picture

My dad was 94 and passed last Jan 2. He served at El Alamein in 1940-43 then Belgium in 43-45

God bless your dad and all who served and are serving this great nation. He loved only one nation after America. Buckeye nation !!

TheDewMan10

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Bigmarty's picture

I was born on June 6. 1944.  Lost one uncle on Omaha, another went in with the paratroop guys.  Another uncle fought in Pacific...real brutal, came back with what we now know as PTSD...took his life.  God Bless Vets!!!  Both Tress and UFM have deep affection for them.  Can;t be many left from the Pearl Harbor Infamy.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Sadly, they've all joined their brothers in arms. The last known veteran who survived the attack at Pearl Harbor passed away just days before Thanksgiving this year at the age of 106.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Ray-Chavez-Oldest-Veteran-Pearl-H...

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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216ToThe614's picture

He was just the oldest surviving veteran from Pearl Harbor. There's a few thousand still living, the youngest would probably be in their mid-eighties.

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
WB

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

For those who'd like to read a little more on Pearl Harbor today.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/anything-else/2015/12/64757/pearl-h...

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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OH-IO's picture

The kid looks like Bobby Carpenter 2.0. Let the golden locks flow, baby!

OH-IO living BACK IN COLUMBUS after 32 years in the ATL. 

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Dillon G's picture

I forgot to post one other thing. 

Go Army, beat Navy!

#walkaway

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

“For me, this is who we are. We have a culture. We work at it very hard. And we’re efficient at it.” - Coach Day

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Dillon G's picture

The 1st painted the division logo on the end of the runway at FOB Speicher. Quite cool. I might have a picture of it on the desktop somewhere.

#walkaway

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Blackcoffee's picture

Delaney just strikes me as not syuch an astute business person/promoter.

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sawesome's picture

Delaney just strikes me as not syuch an astute business person/promoter.

BTN was his brainchild and made the conference $buku

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TomD's picture

Keep the divisions.

Might want to look into realignment . . . but the current East/West alignment, although not perfect, reflects the team regional distribution in the B1G, and it should probably stay that way.

Right now, the East has better teams than the West. Perhaps Scott Frost and Jeff Brohm, to name the two most prominent new HC in the West, can rectify that.  But it's a major challenge for the teams in the West to consistently compete in recruiting with Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State, and that, among other things, leads to the divisional imbalance.

"Life is ten percent what happens to you and ninety percent how you respond to it." - Woody Hayes

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Luckobucko's picture

I think they should realign into North and South divisions:
South
Ohio State
Penn State
Nebraska
Indiana
Purdue
Maryland
Rutgers

North
Michigan
Michigan State
Illinois
Northwestern
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota

Protect one intersectional rivalry per school (if necessary) and you would have much more balanced divisions.

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Spider1944's picture

Kevin: on Delany and making B1G Championship the two “BEST” teams.

 I agree with what you said completely. Even the college football playoff committee got that right. Nobody wants to see Alabama and Georgia play in the championship game again. They just had their championship game. Why would you want to diminish the regular-season match up.  Last year it was different. Alabama and Georgia never played during the regular season. Furthermore You would destroy all meaning for the game. I also believe that would destroy the biggest rivalry GAME of the year, what? Over 14 million people watched this years edition of THE GAME.  I also think it would destroy the B1G 10. Nobody wants to see Michigan AND Ohio State in the championship game every year. PLEASE, PLEASE do not change the set up you have now. 

Go Bucks!! BEAT Washington!

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

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ToTheHouse's picture

No better way to start muck fishigan Fri. than to see yesterday:

Coach Day has secured his first commitment as head coach. BOOM !

Welcome Mr. Eichenburg !

And during the "official" Urban/Day/Smith presser hearing Coach Meyer on recruiting, "...he's gonna be in four states tomorrow...he better be !"

There's a new Day in the 614...I LIKE.

Thanks Kevin for your always on point Skully !

GO BUCKEYES

HAMMER husky's

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esap153's picture

I don't think divisional imbalance is bad, personally. Besides these things change. If the West wants to be more competitive, recruit better! Hire better coaches, invest in your football program!

The difference between the B1G and SEC is the SEC has multiple teams trying to compete for championships, national championships. For most teams in the B1G West, they simply aren't interested and it shows. Listen to people talk about the facilities at Purdue, for example. Purdue is fine with occasionally upsetting Ohio State a couple times every 50 years, and that's it.

If B1G West teams paid out cheddar for their football programs, they would be more competitive.

Divisional realignment wouldn't help much, and playing Michigan twice just sounds lame.

Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony

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hetuck's picture

1. Today's lesson in epicaricacy: All hail Josh Perry's mom for using Gold Pants to vanquish the devil. 2,567 days. 

2. Pause today to remember those who lost their lives in the day of infamy. The link about the maps reminds me the U.S. base at Iwakune has a building with an amphitheater and a concrete pool. It was used for a likeness of Pearl Harbor. 

3. How many home visits does Harbaugh get with Harrison? Since U.S. 23 is a major infiltration route from the north and he was wearing that gaudy jacket, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was visiting other players in the area. 

4. Urban should thank Jim Tressel for a desk in the WHAC as he included an office for former coaches as part of one of the remodels. 

5. Keep the divisions and championship game as they are. I don't think expansion is over and will happen before the next TV contract. If you fiddle with the formula, the next step would be to move rivalry games to mid-October like Oklahoma and Oklahoma State did. 

6. Iowabuckeye has a good idea above about a conference challenge, But I'd suggest the PAC-12 instead as they have a similar nine-game problem. Have the MWC contribute two teams on a rotating basis with a guarantee they get one home game annually. Play it to open the season spread out over Labor Day weekend. I think the networks would be willing to forego a conference crossover game in return for setting matches that would dominate the opening of the season. Instead of FAU, imagine Oregon coming to Columbus and TUN at Washington. Rutgers-San Jose State might not attract many viewers, but neither does Rutgers-Minnesota. I could also see some PAC-12 or MWC teams selling their home game to the owners of the new Las Vegas stadium (they need the money.) I'd see the Oregon home-an-home being cancelled, but we'd likely see each other as part of the challenge frequently. I'd add a no-repeat rule for variety. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

4. Urban should thank Jim Tressel for a desk in the WHAC as he included an office for former coaches as part of one of the remodels. 

Just wanred to read this twice. 

“For me, this is who we are. We have a culture. We work at it very hard. And we’re efficient at it.” - Coach Day

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iowabuckeyes's picture

@Hetuck: I would personally prefer the SEC but I don't seem them doing a challenge. After that, I prefer the PAC-12--they're taking a bigger knock than the B1G, which puts us on parallel paths in terms of both conferences needing a boost in public image. But the PAC-12 has only 12 teams, while the ACC and SEC are the only other P5 conferences with 14, which makes it an easy way to match teams. That left the ACC but aside from Clemson, it hasn't been very good lately. The PAC-12 versus B1G presents scheduling challenges, i.e., if you were to add two MWC teams because how would you determine which two teams they are? I think the 12+2 v. 14 starts to get a little complicated unless two B1G teams get left out but then they have holes in their schedule they'd have to fill unless they play each other, which would have to be as a non-conference game. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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osu78's picture

That was the plan with the Pac 12 until the B1G expanded to 14 teams. Teams would play based on their ranking. 

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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hetuck's picture

I said PAC-12 because: 1) they also have a nine conference game issue 2) historical relationship to include talking about this before plus the Rose Bowl. I'm well aware they only have 12 teams so that is why I included two teams from the MWC. The MWC could determine six, two-team pairs, perhaps based on conference winning percentage over the past five years.

One of the reasons this fell apart before was the B1G only played eight conference games. Now both conferences could replace one crossover game with an opening week challenge game with matches determined by the networks. I think the B1G fans would welcome a Labor Day weekend trip to the west. See the Cal game. Once every 12 years, Hawaii would get to host. And, like I said, I could see the new Las Vegas Stadium buying a PAC-12/MWC game regularly. Would OSU continue to play a marquee home-and-home every season? I don't know. I hope so, just for the sake of selling tickets to home games.  I do think the Oregon series would be cancelled. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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Kyson12's picture

Go ARMY beat navy. Congrats to the new stud linebacker we got last night also. 

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FROMTHE18's picture

Urbans role could be an ambassador for the program, which would be sweet. I highly doubt he meddles with Day's work at all, more there to welcome recruits, host former players, continue to influence things like Real Life Wednesdays. 

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GlenBuck's picture

Of course he will have an office.  Doesn’t Cooper still have an office too?

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jamesrbrown322's picture

There's actually a pretty simple way to avoid getting owned by former Ohio State players' mothers – don't lose every rivalry game you coach.

And stay out of our state on the recruiting trail.

"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

The change that the B1G needs to be made is going back to an eight game conference slate. You are spot on with that one. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I like the way the B1G is set up now. East and West is fine Jim, no need for knee jerk reactions.

2x account suspension survivor 

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Seattle Linga's picture

SO happy to see the news about Garrett being confident and solid with his commitment. With Urban having an office on campus - that'll really help through the transition process. 

See you in Indy !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

Seattle Sounders 2019 MLS Champions

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NoVAsmitty's picture

The Big Ten divisions had nothing to do with not getting into the CFP (again). The problem was Purdue going 2-3 after their big win. Had Purdue gone 5-0, we could have had the chance to “avenge” the loss over a 9-3 Purdue. I also don’t like playing ttun again a week later and that would mean moving The Game to earlier in the season, and I also don’t like that. 

8 or 9 conf games. The Committee or some thing should mandate scheduling at least 10 P5 teams. Maybe 11. This year prior to the CCGs, three teams had 10 P5 wins:  Clemson 10-0, ND 10-0, and tOSU 10-1. After CCGs only two teams had 11 P5 wins, Clemson and tOSU. UGA still only had 8 P5 wins. 

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

The problem was losing to Purdue by 29. I don't care what the rest of the Big Ten does. Win the games you're supposed to win and everything works out.  The Buckeyes could've lost to MSU or PSU this season and it wouldn't have mattered.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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NoVAsmitty's picture

It only matters when we do lose to them ..... 2015, 2016 (sort of), etc.  

I know losing to Purdue was THE reason, but if they were 9-3, ranked 14, and it was a re-match, we could be the fans looking forward to taking on Alabama.  Alas, none of it mattered.

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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poopsnack's picture

It seems that everyone is trying to help figure out a solution to this CFP problem, but that answer is clear - expansion. 

Although if we could replicate the last 7 years I wouldn’t mind playing TTUN every other week. ;)

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Timbucktoo's picture

Wow! Shazier is truly an inspiration.

Agree lining up the top-two teams in the championship would not be good. For starters, with 14 teams you cannot do round robin where everyone plays everyone in the regular season - and how fair would it be if, say, Purdue does not have tOSU and PSU on its schedule in a given year and winds up in the top-2? I think a better solution would be to realign the conference to balance out the talent. For the life of me, I never understood why the powers-that-be grouped tOSU, PSU, ttun and MSU in the same division. Delaney has done some good things, but it's about time that he hangs it up.

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osu78's picture

Part of it may be rivalries (TTUN-MSU-OSU) and wanting to appease PSU fans who desperately want to be part of the big boy rivalry club; although they wound up being the annoying little brother.

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buckeyepastor's picture

Love what Perry’s mom did, but my next thought was, “who is he down here for?”  Is he down here to try and close with Zach Harrison?  To poach local commits with Urban’s retirement?   

I love Shazier and am happy for his recovery, but still would like, for his own sake, to see him find fulfillment in something off the field.  

Urban being around is great for the university, and for the program.  But I do think OSU needs to be careful how it handles this.   Living out here in Nebraska the last 11 years, I have seen a fan base reverence a former coach to the point where his shadow has at times been positively suffocating to current coaches.  There have been moments where it has felt like the Nebraska program wouldn’t go to the bathroom without Tom Osborne’s blessing.  This isn’t something he wanted or invited, but it’s just how it has been.  With Scott Frost, it has finally maybe ceased because he played for Osborne and is enough of a Husker for everyone.  But I have seen how it isn’t easy to establish yourself and make your mark in the shadow of a legendary coach.  Hopefully, our fan base can handle it better than Nebraska’s who, whenever things got difficult, wanted Coach Tom to tell them what to do.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Cooper's picture

Considering the Perry’s and Zach Harrison are both from Lewis Center, it’s safe to say Harbaugh was down there for Harrison.

I also believe there is a UM commit from Columbus, as well. He committed to OSU to play baseball before accepting a football scholarship from Harbaugh.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

On this date 77 years ago, the United States was thrust into World War II after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

Thank a veteran today – and everyday.

For you history buffs out there, this is considered the definitive work on the events leading up to Pearl Harbor and the immediate aftermath:

https://www.amazon.com/At-Dawn-We-Slept-Untold/dp/0140157344

Go Bucks.

Win the Roses.

For Urban.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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Wargor's picture

Great book.  I remember using it for my 8th grade research paper.  

Which raises a question I can't answer.  Has enough new stuff come to light through historical research and declassification to make a newer book more definitive?  I have no idea, since I really haven't read a book on Pearl since that report.  Certainly this effect can be important for any subject concerning the Soviet Union.  Anyone know?

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Great book.  I remember using it for my 8th grade research paper. 

You waded thru 700+ pages of this tome in the 8th grade? For a research paper? Hats off to you, Wargor.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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Wargor's picture

I was always a bit of a reader, especially on WWII.  I can't say for sure at this point that I definitely read the whole thing, but I do know that I didn't just grab it for one fact to bibliography fluff.  

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allinosu's picture

More chances things turn out bad than good replaying the same team again. It only works out in the Oklahoma situation this year. There is a better chance of knocking both teams out. Wisconsin won't have a down year very often and Nebraska is trending up so I doubt this years situation happens again. 

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tampatom's picture

I think Joshua Perry's mom with her 4 gold pants should have an in house visit with Zach Harrison!

Not a fan of having the old CEO hanging around while new guy tries to do new things, especially if old CEO has a son in law who listens more to him. I would be more comfortable if the son in law got a gig at Cinci or a MAC school and Urban had a defined role in athletic department

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Timbucktoo's picture

Agreed! I read the article regarding Gene Smith's consideration of Meyer's potential replacements before Meyer's retirement announcement. Basically, Smith said that he'd have to say "no" if a new coach wanted to bring in his own trainer, strength coach, academic advisor, etc - that the infrastructure is already in place. Not sure it is a good thing for Day that the entire infrastructure is of Meyer's doing. Hopefully, Day is given autonomy to staff the team as he wishes during his tenure.

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Dstacify's picture

Well certain parts of the infrastructure (like LJ and Marotti for example) need to stay put no matter what if you can convince them to stay put. You're not going to find any specialty coaches out there better at their jobs than those two. But Day should absolutely get a chance to build the rest of his coaching staff. Schiano and Davis are the two most obvious candidates to replace IMO since the only reason they are at OSU is due to their close relationship with Meyer. But Meyer having an office on campus doesn't bother me int he slightest. It's not going to threaten Day's job. I think it's actually a better alternative to cutting Meyer off from the University entirely going forward. If you take the latter option and he decides to return to coaching at another school somewhere down the road he'll immediately start poaching Day's assistants to build his own future staff.

11 Strong.

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bucknut1994's picture

The rise of underground LSD guides

something something Buck68 ;-{)}

#94Ways

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Art Harrell's picture

I want to thank my Three Uncles and One Aunt...that answered America's call and fought in World War Two...R.I.P.

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

“Go and win the Rose Bowl first!” Love it. Still plenty of fight in Coach Tress. 

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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bucksfan92's picture

The B1G doesn't need to adjust to the CFP, the CFP is the one that needs to adjust.  Rematches in football are stupid, especially in the regular season. Expand the thing to 8 and all controversy goes away. Well all legitimate controversy.  People will whine over #9 but people also whine over #69 in march madness but that team had no realistic shot at a title either.  And no auto bids ether, those are stupid as well. Have a committee pick 8 teams and move on.

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bucksfan92's picture

The B1G doesn't need to adjust to the CFP, the CFP is the one that needs to adjust.  Rematches in football are stupid, especially in the regular season. Expand the thing to 8 and all controversy goes away. Well all legitimate controversy.  People will whine over #9 but people also whine over #69 in march madness but that team had no realistic shot at a title either.  And no auto bids ether, those are stupid as well. Have a committee pick 8 teams and move on.

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

Jim Delaney has failed to get a team from the best conference in college football into the playoffs for the past three years. He’s got to go. This is a failure on his part not Ohio State’s part or Wisconsin’s part or whomever else. The fact that we don’t have people fighting for us and trying to explain to those mouth breathers on the committee what a solid 12 games season looks like or 13 game season with a championship, obviously. It’s just pathetic and I hate it more by the day thinking about the Sun belt and FCS teams Alabama, Clemson, and the rest of them play and then slide right in the playoffs playing little sisters of the poor.  I’ve been arguing this till I’m blue in the face when I look at every dumbass Alabama fan with that stupid Atlanta Braves “A“ on their hat or whatever and they just go roll Tide! Certainly not gonna get an intellectually honest conversation out of them. Maybe Congress can look into this like they did major-league baseball juicing  or something. 

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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Wargor's picture

Not a fan of the best two from the BIG playing in a championship for all the reasons mentioned as well as the difficulty in determining that team some years.  The BIG12 has every team play each other, so no mater what else you think of the system, it is definitely fair.

The BIG would have the problem of imbalanced schedules with 9 games against 13 potential opponents.  If you lose the divisions to play those 9 games I believe you could have a scenario with 3 teams going 9-0 in conference.  Certainly possible with 8 conference games.  Even though highly unlikely, no system should be set up that has that possibility.  

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O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

Does anyone know if Tressel does podcasts? Something about his tone and delivery that just makes me feel like everything is good.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Like a warm blanket...

“For me, this is who we are. We have a culture. We work at it very hard. And we’re efficient at it.” - Coach Day

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sawesome's picture

Does anyone know if Tressel does podcasts? 

Should call it, "The And So Forth."

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Drpsychbuck's picture

Not sure if the best two teams in the Big Ten should play again as it’s usually Michigan and OSU. Maybe put some rule in they can’t play back to back weeks, so the top team and then the third best team if they played each other the prior week. There definitely needs to be a division realignment every so often so we don’t have the best division canabalizing itself every year, with the weaker one have one team skating through. Also, need to play like the SEC and only play 8 conference games and pick up a cupcake team to inflate conference standings like them. Tired of watching the Big Ten getting punished for playing more conference games as it creates more losses for the conference (unless your Nebraska and/or Northwestern and get killed by OOC games...then that’s their problem).

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45has2's picture

Jim Delany is a fool, albeit along with 3 other commissioner fools, or he would never have agreed to an ESPN/SEC invitational tournament where one fool, and sometimes two fools, are guaranteed to be left out of the tourney every year. Now he wants the B1G to increase its chances of being left out by going the beauty contestant route. Stupid is as stupid does.

What did Ol' Booger expect rocking his 70's piss and blue weasel gear in Cbus?

Urb should definitely have an office in the WHC and Ryan Day should absolutely make sure every top recruit that visits campus gets a meeting with The Legend.

Censores irrumasti.

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BloomingtonBuckeye's picture

Just adding my $.02, but all of this realignment talk is more horseshit. Last year, we played an undefeated, third ranked Wisconsin. Didn’t help us get in. If we beat um 2x this year, they’d just say, “well it looks like um just wasn’t a good team.” 

The B1G is consistently thought of as the second best conference behind the SEC and I’ll point out that neither they nor the ACC are even thinking about changing things up. The CFP did not want Ohio St.

In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins. - Ulysses S. Grant

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fairvis's picture

I'm OK in some ways about getting rid of divisions and going to much more of a pod type of form. Rumor mills are already going about the Big 12 grant of rights expiry in 2025 impacting the next phase of TV negotiations in 2022. Big 12 teams will make even less money, and Fox is making money hand over fist with their B1G package, both in building FS1 as a true ESPN competitor and their main CFB package on broadcast (me, for one, has no idea why it took them so long to build a package like this with the success of the other networks in CFB for a long time).  The B1G will most likely go to 16 teams for 2025. Set things up in 4 team pods and then choose the two best teams from those pods that don't play each other. That's what this is building towards in my opinion... so whilst divisions would be eliminated, there would still be a systematic way of schedule generation.

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

When I first saw the photo of Harbaugh, I thought he had been arrested and was making his one phone call.....

Who goes to a Kroger for coffee?  

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Bucks19's picture

Michigan St shouldn’t be moved to the west. Means they lose their rivalry game. If you say, “then they play every year”, that’s not fair because it’s a disadvantage to them when our games might be Indiana and Illinois. 

Nebraska will get better. Wisconsin will always be good. Purdue is on the rise. 

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mathandler1's picture

Awesome for Mrs.Perry,the rivalry never ends even if you are not at the school anymore. He is lucky she only hit him with the gold pants and not shake him out of some tree.

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mathandler1's picture

Awesome for Mrs.Perry,the rivalry never ends even if you are not at the school anymore. He is lucky she only hit him with the gold pants and not shake him out of some tree.

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216ToThe614's picture

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
WB

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Page Turner's picture

Thanks for reminding us Kevin, and for a timely word of the day.  Paternal roots date to the Revolution and wearing a uniform is almost expected.

BTW is that a UFO hovering behind JimRod?  Did it just drop him to earth?

If you can't be a Buckeye, it's good to know one 

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buckeyepastor's picture

We don't need to change our conference title game.  If a West team ever manages to win in Indy, it will have bested the top team from the top division in the NCAA.  And if OSU has a title game win that looks less impressive than Oklahoma's, it still has wins over TTUN, PSU, and MSU.   

OSU is not on the outside looking in because they played an 8-4 team in the conference championship, or because the West Division as a whole is weaker talent-wise.   They are on the outside looking in because one of those west division teams, a school that didn't qualify for a bowl until week 13, beat the doors off of us back in October.   If we'd stayed within 10 points of Purdue, we'd be in the playoff regardless of the conference title game opponent and there would be no conversation about Delany needing to change anything.   

All we can do now is go drop a 60-burger on UW in the Rose Bowl, and leave the playoff committee wondering if maybe they picked the wrong "historic offense and challenged defense" as their #4.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

The B10 is by no means the only conference to have one sided championship games.   Trying to restructure the process every season based on the last season's results is not a functional plan.  If the committee has revealed anything about the process with five years of data to analyze it is that win loss record is paramount followed by winning your conference. Two loses is a killer. Undefeated or one loss is the clearest path to the playoffs but of course is no guarantee because there can be more than four teams that fall into that category.  OSU missed the playoffs last season because they had two loses.  This year their loss to Purdue was too much for the committee to over look compared to Oklahoma losing a close game to a Texas team that they beat the second time around. 

People want to make too much imo about Georgia being ranked fifth.  In the playoff poll fifth is no different then 105th.  You don't get in and the belief that it proves the last spot was decided between Oklahoma and Georgia not Oklahoma and OSU is speculation unless you were in the committee meeting room and are speaking from first hand knowledge.  If Oklahoma had lost to Texas again, OSU would have made the playoffs.  I will believe the committee is going to put a team in the playoffs following them losing their conference championship game over a one loss conference champion when I see it happen and not before. 

I think the committee does things simply to pave the way for a year when things are so chaotic at the season end that they feel compelled to put a two loss team in the playoffs and maybe even a team that lost in a conference championship game.  Should that happen people can then point back and say well remember that season they ranked Georgia fifth when OSU was a one loss B10 champion.  That can give the committee cover for unpopular decisions they want to make in some future season and further distances playoff spots being thought of as the right of a conference champion while hurting no one this year because again fifth verses sixth is a meaningless distinction with regard to the playoffs.

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BrazilianBuckeye's picture

Most upper echelon recruits with many offers have enthusiastically said that "Real Life Wednesdays" was the deciding factor for them in signing with OSU.  Just imagine the corporate doors Urban could unlock through his fame.  And how effectively he could administer RLW were Urban involved on a full time basis.

OSU 2019 defense - The Twelfth Man

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subUrbanBuck22's picture

Delaney should shut his gob about the Big Ten title game and focus on the CFP expanding to 8. nobody want to see a rematch, plus the amount of gold pants would be insane- Perry’s mom could have 8

Go Bucks!

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Go1Bucks's picture

Hairball must have expected and wanted a confrontation wearing that getup here in Ohio. All children know the life of misery a Michigan fan endures here. What a tool.
And I believe PSU or MSU or both should have been East anyway.

Go Bucks! TTUN tears are best! Beat Wisky!!!

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