Paris Johnson Jr. to Visit Ohio State on the Heels of Urban Meyer's Retirement Announcement

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Bucky Baller's picture

This good or bad?

Gregory anderson

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BornAndBredABuckeye's picture

I'd say it's good that he's coming to campus before making a decision to decommit. The nice thing about Day becoming HC is that a lot of what Urban has built will probably still remain in tact. Granted there will be some changes but I'd imagine a lot of the behind the scenes things will stay

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I don't think communication is ever a bad thing in a case like this.

Monclovabuckeye's picture

Shouldn't we be reading about this on the Hurry Up?

I don't give a damn for the whole state of Xichigan.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

The Hurry Up appears to be on hiatus although you're right--this article could have technically and easily been posted under that banner.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Kevin Harrish's picture

The hurry up is on hiatus while we search for a new full-time recruiting writer. But this is obviously a big time for Ohio State recruiting, so the rest of us are trying our best to keep you updated (with lots of help from Andrew Ellis).

MichaelJ721984's picture

Hire me. I can’t write and haven’t the slightest clue about recruiting but if Brett McMurphy can get a job by being an idiot, so can I!!! 

Michigan sucks.

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Ole Uncle Charle's picture

Pick me! Pick me! I would love to immerse my self into some self-absorbed 16-18  Y/O kids......that are not mine.  Plus Im pretty sharp with the twitter gram.   

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Moo Strength's picture

I have 2 questions that I'd like your opinion on Kevin.

If Day were going to part ways with Stud, would that likely seriously affect the recruitment of Nestor, Wray, Rogers, Johnson, etc.? I guess what I'm asking is how much of the recruiting onus is on the position coach specifically versus the head coach/entire staff/players, IYHO?

2) Are you guys going to do any analysis on what you think the odds are that Day keeps each assistant coach? I'd very much like to ready 11W's insight and opinions on whether we retain Davis, Schiano, etc. since I don't know if Day is more like Meyer, or more like Saban, because it seems like Saban puts success of winning over friendship.

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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Buck68's picture

Bucky Baller... "good or bad" ...it just might 'boil down to' that... huh?

...Was looking in this website at "My Account" this morning, when i was 'so unfairly' hit with a Big Brick throne thru my Johari Window, 'Facade' pain....  ;-{)}

...I 'just noticed' ['obviously it wasn't there...be fore i, your humble idiot savant servant... 'dis-covered' it by BGO....  ;-{)}  ]

... that as my Account numbers decrease... my Accountability Increases...exponentially.

[points toward Paris Johnson's testimony as to where he started his search, for what...  Is Paris 'going for himself'... or to fulfill his obligation as an informal 'leader' among his fellow Buckeye recruits...the 'committed AND, much more, the 'to be committed?]

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NHBuckeye's picture

Good news that Johnson is coming to campus for a sit down.  So much better than seeing him decommit due to the uncertainty.    

Fields of Dreams

 

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seyekcuB's picture

What's not to like about Ohio state? Day is going to take this offense to new heights.

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85ThruTheHeart's picture

Some people commit to the team while others commit to the coach. Can’t blame them either way. When a sports idol leaves right before you live your dream of playing for him, there’s bound to be disappointment/uncertainty.

"He has that look in his eye when it's time to start feeding the beast" UFM on EZE

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Buck68's picture

agree with your elements of descriptive common sense, 85TTH...

disagree with "can't blame" based on the Legions of Better Blamers ever-ready to battery...

by 'dropping' in to... dump the latest 'progress' in our die-veristy of blamings....

DV - Distinuishing Visitors are we all... by our own die-visions and hidings and omittings and 'just passings by'...

So to testify in every way,

that nothing but The Way of Unconditional, Selfless Love... can rescue any and all.

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HilltopHustle's picture

Nothing wrong with this whatsoever. I mean, what's the alternative besides him opening things back up? 

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ThePreachingBuckeye's picture

I like this. An opportunity for Ohio State to speak with him about the changes. Hopefully he will still be on board. 

Stephen Schwartz

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rand443's picture

if / when he re-commits it will speak LOUDLY

rand dittmar

 

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kmp10's picture

How could this staff, Meyer in particular, NOT communicate this news to all the recruits before it was public information? That is dumbfounding, and especially specific to Johnson... a 5 star, OHIO player. Wow.

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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stxbuck's picture

B/c a kid would leak the news on instagram?

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kmp10's picture

So? It had been decided and was 'leaked' via media outlets anyway. In addition, Meyer said he had conversations with a few recruits he was close with, so the ones he didn't talk to now feel slighted that he didn't consider himself close to them. It was an error, imo, that could have been avoided with 90 mins worth of phone calls to some recruits. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Because you want to control it and the very last thing you want is a 16-17-18 kid to be the one to leak it because that's not how it works. "Leaked" is a misnomer; nothing was leaked, i.e., someone said something they shouldn't have. Informing the media in advance was a highly calculated move--don't forget that prior to the B1G CCG, there were rumors Urban was going to quit this week; had there only been an announcement of a press conference later in the afternoon, speculation would've run rampant and then it's a wildfire. "Leaking" it allowed Ohio State to exercise control and containment.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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kmp10's picture

Meyer say he had had conversations with a few of the recruits to whom he is closest. They're 16-17-18 year olds like the others, with the same social media access. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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bd2999's picture

He did not tell them he was retiring. He told them he was thinking about it and floated it out there. From what Meyer sand Smith said, it was not until recently that Meyer pulled the trigger. 

The reports that came out did not make it clear that Meyer was retiring now, just that he was thinking about it. It probably would have been better if they contacted the recruits before the statement but given the timelines, they would have known a slight bit earlier. 

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milhouse4588's picture

It's possible that Meyer had other things to worry about like making sure staff were in place for Day and getting the program ready for him to move on before the announcement, instead of texting a bunch of recruits.

It seemed to me like it was a very quick timeline before his official decision and the announcement.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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JacksonOhio5's picture

Seems like this isn't a very popular comment around here right now(I essentially said the same thing yesterday), but Urban mentioned yesterday that recruiting is the lifeblood of the program.  It seems like they let the recruits know that this was a possibility, but didn't specifically tell all of them right before it was officially decided/announced.  I agree that it's a mistake, and should have been handled differently.  I know that Urban and Day had a lot on their plates the last couple days, but other staff members, Pantoni, etc. could have been making calls or sending texts to prepare the kids a little more for the news.  Hopefully Day can repair any damage this may have caused.  

Go Bucks!

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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

Exactly, Meyer stated he communicated with some recruits before he made his decision. I wonder exactly which ones Meyer communicated with because obviously Johnson was "caught of guard". Wouldnt Johnson be top 3 commits that shoulda known before hand/

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BuckInNashville's picture

Meyer said in the press conference that he DID communicate with committed recruits in advance of the early enrollment deadline of 12/19 and it was their input that dinally drove the decision. My guess is that his focus was in n the 2019 class  since they had this deadline, where the 2020 recruits had less urgency at this point. 

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napbuck's picture

My guess is Meyer contacted the 2019 kids as they are the ones who will be making their decisions in the next couple weeks or months. The kids in 2020 have another year to get the questions they need answered.

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BuckNutChicago's picture

Was going to type the same thing and totally agree.  It is interesting how some people always assume the worst.

Go Buckeyes!!!

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buckeyefan67's picture

I believe it's time to make an announcement that Urban DEFINITELY will be staying in some capacity to ease the fears of these recruits.  As some (myself included) have mentioned:  Real Life Wednesdays and perhaps even some "closer" opportunities could be in his purview with an appropriate title such as VP of Athletic Development (that's rather weak, I know but best off top of my head).   It's time to nip this recruiting uncertainty in the bud .

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iowabuckeyes's picture

But then there could be confusion about who is in charge. This is Ryan Day's program, maybe not officially until January 2, but aside from preparing for Washington and maybe talking to players, recruits, parents about his decision and the transition, he's better staying in the shadows. Day needs to assert that he's the man in charge. There will be bumps in the road. Anyone who thinks this is going to be completely smooth, seamless and painless is living in a fool's paradise (aka Ann Arbor).

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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buckeyefan67's picture

IB,  I respectively disagree.  There is enuf confusion currently to have 3-4 or more commits waver and/or de-commit.  As Day has acknowledged he welcomes Urban's input while Urban has said he wants to remain part of the University as well ;   and since Real Life Wednesday is his baby anyway --I don't see how that would add to any "confusion" and using Meyer's well-known closing expertise couldn't hurt either.  Besides  many in the media have pointed out--Day has never been a head coach so the pervasive uncertainty among current and future recruits would simply be assuaged by just Urban's presence in some small capacity.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Michigan lost 11 commitments in Harbaugh’s second recruiting class after losing seven in his first. We have not come anywhere close to reaching that point yet. And don’t forget that the two kids who decommitted are 2020, not 2019 and both specifically said playing for Urban played a huge role in their decision. I wouldn’t say Nester or Johnson are wavering. I’d say they’re more likely looking for assurance.

Our iconic coach just retired. Let’s be patient and let the string on the new guy play out a while. But let’s also acknowledge this is now his program and do what we can as fans to support him. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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gobucks1966's picture

This is a time I would think about what the coach has to do and not myself. There is plenty of time to talk about thinks down the road. I have a feeling that it's leaked that our O line coach will be replaced and that's not good with a big game coming up. The more I read the more they seem to screw things up and not dot all the eyes and cross all the tees like the Zack Smith saga. Gene doesn't have all his ducks in a row either and don't always believe what comes out of his mouth.

Denny

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TkeBuck's picture

with a few of these recruits deciding to walk...what a big deal it'd be to land a couple of 5*'s on signing day. a big boom would echo far and wide

klusewski

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Mantis's picture

This is exactly what a recruit SHOULD do in a situation like this.  Decommitting is not...

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Buckifan4Life's picture

Exactly! A recruit can reevaluate without decommitting. I keep forgetting that they are not far removed from being children though. I hope more of them will take on Johnson's mature attitude in the days ahead.

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GOOMBAY's picture

May I recommend the following pitch: “Nothing stops. Nothing.”

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iowabuckeyes's picture

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

Don't think we have to worry about 5* C Harry Miller at least. Mom tweeted out a pic of her son and Coach day calling Day her BFF ha ha. He's locked in.

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seyekcuB's picture

It's good to have a center locked up. The offense and defense lines are solid for atleast a couple years but 2020 is an important class and one that will likely be 25 players deep. Chase Young will definitely go pro next year. Off the top of my head I dont see any early departures on the o-line.
Plenty of talent at the skills positions and the defense is moving in the right direction. I think next year could be the year they get back in the title hunt. Tate is going to be very difficult to stop. The biggest concern is backup QB right now. Baldwin is by all accounts a very promising candidate time will tell.

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buckeyenut74's picture

We are gonna be alright. Day is an offensive mind and Paris plays offense. I like how Day said he will have an aggressive defense..... the longer I get away from the punch in the mouth that Meyer is retiring, the better I am feeling about Day. 

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

I think this is a good thing and hopefully he hears what he needs to hear.

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Sanitarian2's picture

As a recruit how could you trust someone that days before promised that he would coach next season? I would certainly have expected contact before being blindsided by a presser. The assistant coaches could have made calls just as the presser started. 

Sani

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luckynutz's picture

He never promised. He said he planned on it. There was never a definitive yes, I'll be the coach.

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OSU56's picture

I like it- this is the way to handle it. Recruits will have some concerns in this type of situation.

Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.

 

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TraptnMI's picture

I saw Paris’ pic and name and about had a stroke, thinking along the line of recommitment. Damn I didn’t need that self affliction.

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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Buck68's picture

well...

...it seems from your post, TraptnMI, that you gave your condition and your self-affliction to... your self, according to you.

agree by something more dangerous than a solitary stroke, for...

have you not evidently, already been rescued from that minor/major infirmity... or you wouldn't "about had a"....?

And, inasmuch as you post here about what many 'feel' 'stroked over'... haven't you already been given an abundant, relevant  opportunity to 'free yourself' and speak with others about "commitment"... rather than 'trap yourself again' ...?

Paris Johnson has offered 'us' where he was led to start:  Proverbs 4:7.  Who's "wisdom" do we seek?  "Acquire"?

If "... My ways are not your ways...," when i find 'my ways'...am I 'finished'...?

Or, in His Hope... 'just getting the idea' to turn from trusting 'the usual-lies' to Trusting in... Mr Perfect?  

Inasmuch as I 'trust Him'... then i ought to seek, listen, and follow His...word.

...and, as Winston Churchill so earthily put it... "when you're going through Hell... KEEP GOING" until in Perfect time and way, you are given The Answer ...in part... be cause 'life is a test' given, as it is written...  "for us to see, we are but beasts"  Ecclesiastes 3:18.

Speaking of our worldly wisdom... Ecclesiastes, supposedly written by some 'wise man'... discusses that very subject, and reaches an 'interesting' conclusion... a perspective on our condition.

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TraptnMI's picture

 Thank you 68, but it was just mistaken identity. It physically made my heart flip from the rush 

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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Buck68's picture

mee too, TrapnMI - you said it so well.

i so want to answer you... so i should not.   ;-{)}

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TraptnMI's picture

You’re Bogus

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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CowCat's picture

We were going to lose recruits no matter what. Urban is a legendary coach. But I think it was classy that announced his retirement before the signing period. Doing so later would have been a really bad look for the university and for subsequent recruiting classes.

Ryan Day has the task of proving himself as a closer. Not just in Paris Johnson's case, but in head-to-head recruiting battles going forward.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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tcm1968's picture

It can't be a coincidence that it's the offensive lineman. Still think that means they can't tell these kids 100% who the oline coach will be next year and that's making them cautious. Day doesn't have the same trust Urban built up. Urban could just say I got it covered and that was probably enough for most recruits. Day can't do that. These kids probably want to know who their position coach is and behind the scenes they don't know.

I've got no problem with these kids if they just want to wait and make sure..

Go Bucks!

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73buckeye's picture

Best thing that can happen is Paris comes in, talks with Day and Urban and realizes all is going to be well, and OSU is still the place to be. He then comes out and publicly says he is satisfied about the future and is excited to play for Coach Day. That would go miles to allay the fears of the other recruits and give Day's tenure a real boost. Hope that is what happens. And it can't happen quick enough. 

ernie

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stxbuck's picture

Paris is a Bomber, and thus a smart, rational individual. I have a good feeling about his meeting w/ Coach Day.

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Chicago Connection's picture

We've heard many reasons for Urban's retirement, but I've wondered if an added reason--one that might have been quietly sidestepped even if it's minor compared to others (at least in the short run)--is that 2019 recruiting efforts have become more difficult than ever in the wake of... 

1) a challenging season

2) health problems, and 

3) off-the-field issues, all of which have compounded a challenging recruiting season that started out slow to begin with, and now...

It appears to have some recruits second-guessing everything, as if they perhaps were given certain assurances. 

No doubt, the situation will inevitably calm down, but let's hope that when things return to normal, it means that we achieve the old norm of being a top 3 program when it comes to recruiting--maybe not now, but in 2020. On that note, a strong finish to 2019 would go a long way toward ending any narrative of Ohio State's imminent demise.

Thing is, ever since last July, most Buckeyes fans have fretted that the turn of events we witnessed earlier this year might take on a life of its own, and to an extent, it already has taken a toll, even if the team itself somehow managed to pull together and win 12 games.

Still, it's realistic to fear that further dominoes might fall, and as Urban himself emphasized yesterday, the first priory of the head coach is to recruit, recruit, recruit, because talent is the lifeblood of the team. 

To that end, the recruiting news in the past 24 hours has been ominous, and I just hope the damage is minimized going forward. Sure, it might not be the end of the world if we lose Lejond Cavazos, Jake Wray, Max Wray, Paris Johnson and Doug Nester (sadly, a handful of transfers can't be ruled out), but it certainly wouldn't be a storybook beginning for the Ryan Day Era.

So, let's hope Day can turn things around and finish the recruiting season strong. Even though a potential exodus of recruits and current players wouldn't be his fault, it will be his responsibility to manage hist roster and win tons of games.. and recruits... while losing precious few. 

If nothing else, it's a Helluva wake-up call on Day One (pun intended) of Day's new job, but as Shakespeare wrote, heavy is the head that wears the crown. That said, maybe this is the best thing to have happened, because if Day hasn't gotten the memo yet, he now knows there isn't a single day of rest as the Head coach of THE Ohio State Buckeyes. 

One thing's for sure: They don't cut $4.5 million dollar checks for failure. 

 

chicagobuckeye

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Buck68's picture

Chicago...

perhaps the last thing you 'mention'...

could be "millions" of trillions to gazillions "cut" for 'nothing' ...

absent or denied or 're-inventing' ...The 'Connection'.

This reminds me of exchanges here on 11w and elsewhere... about 'how much' talent we 'have' - all the best 'ingredients but... seem to happen to 'have a few issues' ... 'baking the cake'....

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Chicago Connection's picture

Given Meyer's record, it would be difficult to claim that the baking has been unsavory vs. the ingredients, but it's fair to say the quality of the ingredients has surpassed the quality of the results.

Fact is, under Meyer, the Buckeyes have ranked #2 overall (at worst) in terms of national talent rankings, which is a credit to Urban--not that the rankings are unassailable--and in fact, in terms of average ranking-per-player, the 2018 Buckeyes were #1, rating a slight edge over Alabama. 

And yet, there has only been one National Championship in seven years, and beyond that, they've effectively averaged being outside the top 4 in the country, which sure makes it sound like I'm whining to complain at all, but nonetheless, there is a slight gap between talent and results.

Basically, while the Buckeyes have been consistently competitive at the highest level, i.e., knocking on the door every year for a top spot, and oh-so-close more often than not, it's fair to say that they've annually averaged being about a #5 or #6 team in the country.

Or, when looking at the results in aggregate compared to other programs, well, like it or not, being brutally honest, the Buckeyes have been probably the 3rd or 4th best program in the country behind Alabama, Clemson, and Oklahoma.

Oklahoma is debatable, since they've now appeared in the playoffs more often, they haven't won a National Championship, unless they pull it off this year.

Anyway, when you look at the record from the above standpoint, while it's close, in which case, trailing the Tide might be acceptable, it's seems like a fair criticism to say Meyer slightly under-performed with his talent, especially relative to Clemson and Oklahoma, whose talent isn't quite at Ohio State's level.

Heck, Oklahoma's after class ranking might average 10 slots behind the Buckeyes, so in their case, their results clearly exceed their talent.

Of course, there are many reasons for the above. For example, people can say that he Buckeyes play in a tougher conference, or they've been screwed by a subjective Playoff Committee, both of which are somewhat true, but, hey--Ohio State still won a National Championship and still has a tremendous record under Urban Meyer with one entertaining season after another.

As for my explanation of the slight gap between talent and results, a single factor that has stood between Urban Meyer and as least one more championship, and maybe two more playoff appearances, namely, his stubborn loyalty to players or coaches who didn't fully deserve his loyalty.

IMHO, in 2015, he was loyal to J.T. Barrett to a fault, so that he kept feeding him in the Michigan State game instead of Ezekiel Elliot, which meant that his most talented and most experienced team was left out of the playoffs.

In 2017, he went with Barrett again, even though Haskins should have been playing or at least platooning (and, yes, I absolutely said that before the season began--the worst thing that happened is that Barrett didn't leav for the NFL draft), and this cost them a huge loss against Iowa (as well as other perception problems) that kept them out of the playoffs.

Truth be told, while Meyer shouted his love of Barrett from the rooftops, the Committee basically looked at Barrett's limitations and concluded that there was no way he could compete with Alabama, Clemson, or Georgia (and he already got blown out against Oklahoma at home).

In 2018, who knows what this team could have done without all of the off-the-field distractions. Given that they narrowly missed the playoffs, I certainly think it's reasonable to think they could have been oh-so-slightly better and more focused--maybe enough to earn a spot.

I know the above is being picky, and by no means am I saying the product Urban put on our plates hasn't been terrific, but it's sorta like being served a fantastic dinner entree by a world-class chef, and as much as his recipe is world class, your taste buds tell you that it still could have used a little more salt.
 

chicagobuckeye

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Buck68's picture

Thanks Chicago for your reasoned view.

I tracked a little 'mud' in your foyer, so i'll show my self out....

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Buckifan4Life's picture

This is what happens. I'll be grateful if any of the 2020 recruits "stay committed" and if most of the 2019 sign their LOI to tOSU.

Over the years following recruiting, I've determined it's a loathsome process for the most part IMO.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Yeah youre right. We're gonna be lucky to field a football team next year. We should all give up!

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Buckifan4Life's picture

Is that how you interpreted my post?  I think you may need to get on some medication...

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Buck68's picture

IDK who meant what; however, i am reminded...

perhaps we ought to keep considering with each 'new' symptoms

to ...

"get off" our 'usual' ... medications?

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Buck68's picture

thanks, IBS&G!

reminds me of a storied 'event' Andy Geiger once relayed to me, about the cost of football at tOSU.  ;-{)}

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Tresselball4life's picture

This kid Johnson has been pushing other recruits to sign with the Buckeyes.  Look at his tweets.  For Urban to step away made his mission to bring top guys in a disaster.  If we expect to win at recruiting, its crucial he stays committed.  I hope Lebron can come to campus and help us out.

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kentukeye's picture

Speaking of transfers,JM0 I know nothing about nothing but I'm thinking if Hask stays Martell gone?

Go BuCks

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CTownBucknut's picture

I would think so. I’m not sure Martell is as good of a fit for Day in the first place 

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Crumb's picture

I hope he stays. I love my guys from the Queen City being contributors to Ohio State and Johnson would be a HUGE contributor! 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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thedewman10's picture

I agree that OSU could quell speculation by recruits by announcing he is staying as (insert whatever here). And we really don’t know that they haven’t done so and these kids are just wanting to hear from Day. What could be lost in all of this is Urban could just have tried to hang on as long as he could, because he loves OSU so much. He doesn’t want to stop coaching. This had to really tear him up on the inside. And maybe a doctor finally told him to choose between possibly dying young or having a stroke that could ruin his life and that is so unfair to his family, which should come first. Ignore all the morons like Paul Dumbass, EsecN  and the plain BS media types. THEY KNOW NOTHING AND URBAN MEYER OWES THEM NOTHING.  What, his doctor called them? If recruits and the family of recruits do not understand this, then they can go play elsewhere and good luck to them. Urban would not treat them that way if they came to OSU and got injured and could not play anymore. We already know that he has helped more than a few like that. 

TheDewMan10

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TraptnMI's picture

I just hope Luke Wypler hangs. He’s a bad ass man child. He’ll start early 

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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Ruby5's picture

If I was a betting man, I would put all of my chips in and say Meyer will be in this meeting. I know it's easy for Paris to drive up from Cincy. However, the Nester deal and Wray bother me because it's a little short sighted IMO. Do what Paris is doing. Go talk to Day and see what he is all about.  It's the last time I'm going to mention this but the top 60 recruit that I know has nothing but good things to say about Day.  He has talked to pretty much every coach that is trying to poach these kids.  Call up some of the current Buckeyes on your future position team and pick their brains. 

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Ohio State's top-rated commitment in the 2020 class and the No. 10 player nationally was not told of the news beforehand 

This is not good.  

All commits should have been given a heads up by someone who is part of the football program, and before the public announcement, preferably the night before.

Not that many calls to make.   

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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Buck68's picture

a greater opportunity for the grace to choose a certain wisdom...

the wisdom from head down... rather than the pride of head up.

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stpetebuck's picture

Let’s give this a couple weeks. Since we didn’t fire the coach, or go outside to recruit another seems like it’s just a matter of time for current staff to reestablish order. 

Gonna miss Urban for sure, but down here in Florida I’ve heard 7 years about his ‘fake retirement’ etc etc. Drama does follow him around. Looking forward to hopefully a new stable Day dynasty. 

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irishfury's picture

People who hated on Urban got there wish.  I dont think people know how elite Urban recruited.  Anywho I have a bad bad feeling.

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buckerew's picture

Uncertainty about coaching staff for 2019 is driving re-evaluation as landing spot at OSU.

Remember, it's all about relationships between coach and athlete.

With Meyer gone, his credentials as one of the top college coaches of all time, 3 nati's, and best recruiter OSU ever had is gone.

Ryan Day does not have the mystique, aura or sheer presence Urban had when an athlete and his parent(s) entered his office for Urban to close the deal. 

Day will have to create it on his own.

This will take time and early on faith from recruits to believe Day will get it done.  JMHO  

Buckeye since 1952.

Go Bucks!

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Buckeyebobby1968's picture

The 2020 class at least has a year to decide and we'll see if Day is a worthy successor. Personally, I believe it might be a rough season next year, because of the lack of depth at quarterback, especially if Martell decides to transfer. If Martell goes, you have Baldwin, one quarterback from the 2019 class and a bunch of walk ons. That's a recipe for disaster.

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buckeyenut74's picture

I understand your thoughts, but you’re putting the cart before the horse here. Day has done wonders with Haskins. Haskins set all kinds of records and who was his offensive coordinator/quarterback coach? Just wait and see. 

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Keze's picture

Who in the hell focked this up. A top recruit not being told before the announcement.

Someone needs fired

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Buck68's picture

Keze...

who...?  that would be... me.

where do i deserve... to be?   That would be the place you mentioned....

What do i do whenever i so feel 'right in my own mind'?  You have said it....

IDK what, or how, Paris Johnson "was told"... or not... "before some announcement"...

for i am so 'quick to judge...quicker to anger....'  So much more than... you.

I am one 'really big'... 'transparent'... so and so....

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M-villeBuck's picture

IT'S HAND HOLDING TIME IN COLUMBUS !  UMeyer's 'sudden' retirement was going to happen sooner rather than later. These young kids just need to feel like the program is still going to be stable. Wholesale changes are not going to happen, IMHO. 

BUT the recruiting leeches across the nation will tell them differently!

OH2NoVa2CVA

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Buck68's picture

Proverbs 4:7 "could potentially be related to" ...

[among many]

a famous saying from history...

"when in Rome... do as the Romans do."

But...speaking of "acquiring wisdom" ...suggest compare & contrast that saying with...

Romans 1:15-25...  especially v.22.

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Buckeyefanupnorth's picture

The truth is...

If he and his mom are not convinced that Coach Stud is being retained.  He’s opening his recruitment up again.  

Go Bucks

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DP71's picture

Coach Stud is one of several coaches who should be retained.  Also, Schiano if he wants to stay and,of course, Coach Johnson. Hartline has more than earned the permanent job.  Alford is another sure bet to remain if he wants to do so.  I do  think we need a more aggressive LB Coach and a more aggressive defensive scheme.  We certainly have the athletes with many more coming. Our DL should once again be dominant next season, and we have potentially great LBs with more coming.  We have exceptional DBs, who have yet to play up to their potential.  We have sensational young OL who have had not had any chance to excel.  Davis, Meyer, Wray, F-P and many other freshmen and incoming frosh will be stars.  Since Taylor and Bowen did not play while  recovering from injuries, I believe each of them could get a medical redshirt. Everyone just needs to be realistic and recognize that we are still a juggernaut and always will be.

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DP71's picture

For most of these kids, this will be the only time that they can decide where and for whom they will play football. So, I am not upset about some of these guys wavering now that Coach Meyer is retiring.  I just hope that each of them understands that Buckeye Nation is even bigger and more important than one Coach, no matter how great he is. I thought that Buckeye Nation would collapse when Tressel was fired.  I still think Tressell was one of the greatest Coaches ever.  But, within one year, not only did we survive, but the Meyer era began and we thrived.  The same will happen with the Day era.  Let's not forget that we have had top 5 recruiting classes each of the last five years. We are well on our way to two more.  I just hope these guys who are wavering, plus a few more who will decide very soon, still decide to be a part of Buckeye Nation.  We will welcome each one of them and be a huge part of their futures.

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