Mickey Marotti, Mark Pantoni, Ryan Stamper and Brian Voltolini Expected to Remain Under Ryan Day, Per Reports

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BrutusB's picture

HELL YES to keeping Marotti.

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Butch_Driveshaft's picture

Couldn’t agree more 

He owes me 260 bucks vacation pay, and he won't fuckin' pay that, so I figured a handful of chips wasn't too much to ask.

 

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UFest57's picture

this is the best BOOM we've had in a while

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ibuck's picture

In addition to Mariotti, each of these guys should get BOOMs too:

  • director of operations Brian Voltolini
  • personnel director Mark Pantoni
  • player development director Ryan Stamper

Thanks for superior work, guys. And please keep on doing it.

BOOM. BOOM. BOOM. BOOM!

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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741's picture

The best possible news today. These four guys are critical elements of the success of the program. Day makes his first great executive decisions, and closes the deal. GO BUCKS.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

This gives me some hope for optimism. We do need a new DC but what about LJ? I cringe to think what happens if he retires too

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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BrutusB's picture

I don't know how many years LJ has left, but would love if Day could convince him to do at least one more year as a transition period.

Getting Chase Young to reach his potential would be a bonus too.

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

I think LJ wants to keep on, keeping on! Pay him to make him want to stay!!!

Always and forever, Go Bucks!

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Major H's picture

*Best Marlon Brando voice*  

"Make him an offer he can't refuse!"

(Make that a multi-year offer, too!)

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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Buckeyedoc99200's picture

....Or best Teddy KGB voice

"Pay that man his money"

whichever you prefer

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BuckInNashville's picture

Ya think that the needed overhaul on the D side contributed to Urb’s decision ? Day should have no problem cleaning house Knowing how he had to overcome the defensive disarray each week 

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TigerSweat's picture

I mostly agree. Schiano didn't have to horses to run his usual press-man scheme effectively but he tried to jam that square peg in a round hole anyway.

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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ibuck's picture

 he tried to jam that square peg in a round hole anyway.

I like the analogy. I do think that OSU's defensive issues were mostly between the ears. Unsure if those ears belonged to the D coaches or the players. maybe both.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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Buckeye82's picture

I strongly agree - our DB's & LB's were some of the tops coming out of high school, wanted by everyone. I think the coaching of these guys this year was the issue.

Buckeye82

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TJG32's picture

I think the players had no “football smarts”. Great athleticism, but no brains. 

TG Proud Buckeye alumnus.

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Moo Strength's picture

I think Day should bring in Ryan Shazier as an advisor but with plans on him eventually being a LB Coach. He’s already doing that essentially for the Steelers and the guys not only a legend as a player and terror as a player but he’s just about the most inspiring football player in the history of the game.

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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Jerseyboy7's picture

Hopefully Bill Davis will be one of the first to be let go!

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Drpsychbuck's picture

Need to replace Taver Johnson and Studwara with upgrades as well! With better coaches in those positions and retention of core coaches hopefully it’s a Lincoln Riley situation at OSU! Unfortunately, not sure anyone will have rock star coaching and recruiting aptitude like Urban. Damn shame the illegitimate CFP committee didn’t give Urban one final go at the playoff.

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j2gobucks's picture

I think Taver should stay - Sheffield and Arnette sucked before he got there, but Okudah and Wade have developed nicely.  Riep has flashed in limited PT as well.  He should get at least another year, and he seems capable enough at recruiting.   

Everything that happens-good and bad-should motivate you to be persistent. ~JT

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Dstacify's picture

Don't both Sheffield and Arnette have one more year of eligibility remaining? Either way I think Okudah and Wade should start next season and Marcus Williamson, Sevyn Banks, and Tyreke Johnson should all get extended looks as well. Sheffield and Arnette are both slot corners at best who really shouldn't be starting.

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Brock Landers's picture

Don't forget about Josh Proctor, I'd throw his name in there with kids I'd like to see get some serious run time next season.

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Dstacify's picture

Proctor is a safety. I was talking strictly corners. Though I do believe Proctor and Riep should move ahead of Pryor and Wint on the safety depth chart. But if Fuller ends up returning no question he and White will be the starting safeties next season. I'd prefer to go into 2019 with consistency at that position this time. I think a big part of the problem this year is nobody aside from Fuller really stood out in the off-season and they didn't know who to go with at that position as a result. So they just kind of threw Pryor and Wint out there hoping they would stick to disastrous results. Next year I want to see more assertion at that position.

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TigerSweat's picture

Okudah and Wade aren't the best examples. Those two are elite athletes that would have developed nicely under just about any coach.

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NKYBuck's picture

Getting Marcus Freeman for LBs would be huge.  I think that really isn't possible, though.  He is going to get a lot of DC offers after the year UC's defense had.  Would love to somehow get him on the staff, though.

I have seen monkey shit fights at the zoo more organized than this.

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garyb's picture

I upvoted you regarding Davis. I wonder what Tate Martell is thinking right now. I don’t think Day was the coach that recruited him. Day recruited the freshman kid Baldwin who we’ve heard has the big arm and now his favorite wr target is coming in next year too. Tate was Urban’s guy maybe not Ryan Day’s. It will interesting to see what happens with that. 

"All Aboard the Dwayne Train"

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Extramedium's picture

Tate should fit in well with whatever day learned at Oregon.  I do hope his passing ability is really as good as it looked that one game they let him throw and went 10/10.  So spoiled by watching Haskins

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IH8UOFM's picture

As long as Mick has been with Urban, are we sure he's interested in a new regime?

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BrutusB's picture

Wouldn't it be a new regime regardless?  Unless he opens a private gym or something he's going to have a new boss one way or the other.

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Ole Buckeye's picture

Michigan would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to get their hands on coach Mick. 

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Frimmel's picture

Well it isn't like Coach Mick hasn't been doing his job. He's probably not ready to quit working. Coach Meyer seems likely to be quitting coaching so he'd have a new boss whether he stayed or left. He can't follow Coach Meyer to some new program. I presume he gets along well with Coach Day and the other guys on staff and the players. He seems very good at his job. As the article notes he is one of the most important guys on the staff.

Is there really some other "better" job than the one he has? A little more money to go someplace new and essentially start over? Some of these guys might want to be head coaches but those who don't? Where are they going to go that isn't just a lateral move and may not be a good fit? 

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Marotti is the only coach on staff with children who've attended Ohio State. His son and daughter both graduated from Ohio State and his daughter played softball for the Buckeyes. He's arguably the coach most connected to the University.

LouBuck35's picture

This is the BIGGEST reason you keep Day. An outside coach comes in and cleans house for his guys. This keeps the structure and culture that Urban built front and center. Matt Campbell aint doing this.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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JoeAndSo's picture

Agree. I'm also willing to bet this has been planned all season. Especially considering the job Day did the first 3 games of the year.

"¯\_(ツ)_/¯"  - Joey Bosa

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TigerSweat's picture

I think it's been planned since last winter.

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

All those reports of Day being made coach in waiting that were repeatedly denied were most likely true from the beginning.

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BuxLax's picture

I’m wondering if this transition wasn’t planned for a while – maybe 18 months (or so). Hindsight is always easier but here is what I remember that seems a little weird at the time.

  We recruited a passing quarterback in Baldwin and the next quarterback recruit is also a passing quarterback     (vs dual threat). This seemed very un-Urban like, at the time.

  I read somewhere (11W?) that one of the quarterback recruits was told by the OSU coaching staff that we are   going to be more of a passing team and less of a running team. This struck me as odd, particularly to RB recruits.

  The timing of Urban original cyst diagnosis – 2 years ago +/- could have been the catalyst for a transition discussion.

  The fact that Day was named interim head coach during Urban’s suspension surprised a lot of people, who thought Schiano or Wilson would be a natural fit.

I am not saying January 2, 2019 was ever discussed. However, I would not have been surprised if January or 2020 was a potential date and it was accelerated by his current health status and the suspension bullshit (read lack of support by administration).

Anything else that seemed weird over the last 18-24 months.

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logamaniac's picture

Lol calm down conspiracy theorist, Tate can sling it too. 

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BuxLax's picture

I was referring to pro style versus dual threat, as clearly labeled by the recruiting services. Sorry for the confusion.

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Extramedium's picture

He’s right though, the fact that we’ve recruited multiple pass-first QBs in addition to the refrain of moving more to a pro-style version of the spread. Not that Tate won’t get his chance, it’s just that the program seemed to be phasing into a Ryan Day style program for a while and it was likely done because this transition had been planned for a while.

I do think Meyer will be miserable in retirement though, I hope he can continue to be involved with the program in some way, shape or form.

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TomD's picture

This is a key point, as all the up votes attest to it. 

Don't need to make wholesale changes, only need to tweak what is already in pretty good shape.  Promote HC competence from within, retain all that is working, maintaining the strong traditions and foundation that is already in place, and fix only those details that need to be fixed.

This is a clear testament to the excellence that Coach Meyer has built upon and strengthened at Ohio State during his tenure.

"Life is ten percent what happens to you and ninety percent how you respond to it." - Woody Hayes

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SilverState's picture

Huge.

"There's still some green showing before you see the chalk."

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B44's picture

Can we get rid of Bill Davis? Also how about giving Hartline a full time gig?

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Butch_Driveshaft's picture

Yes

He owes me 260 bucks vacation pay, and he won't fuckin' pay that, so I figured a handful of chips wasn't too much to ask.

 

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So aMaysn's picture

I want to see LJ on that list immediately!

GO BUCKS!

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wyatt's picture

LJ and Hartline stay. Clean house with the rest. 

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buckeyeinWI's picture

hopefully Grinch is allowed to stay too...

just sayin'...

GO BUCKEYES!

16-2 is SWEET!

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SuperClark13's picture

It's sad to see Coach Meyer go, however, he left this program in great shape for years to come. Thank you Coach!!!

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parabuckeye's picture

Cupboards are fully stocked. Not a single empty shelf. 

Let Meatchicken Beat Meatchicken!!!!

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BrutusB's picture

I wouldn't mind a few new LBs if we're being honest.

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parabuckeye's picture

LB's are fine their coach on the other hand we could use a new one of those.

Let Meatchicken Beat Meatchicken!!!!

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TigerSweat's picture

I know he's a great kid but it's always shocking to me when I see Tuf attempting to chase a ball carrier down the field. There were many times that I witnessed opposing offensive lineman outrunning him.

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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Extramedium's picture

Bleacher Report already did a hitpiece on Meyer acting like this situation is a repeat of what happened at Florida, and claimed he’ll do it again at the next big job that opens up.

which is so far off base it’s hard to even know where to start.  Just comparing the reactions of the players and fanbases in the two situations is like night and day (pun)

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GlenBuck's picture

It will be very interesting to see how many of the assistants stay.

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Dstacify's picture

Schiano and Davis are probably gone. Everyone else on the defensive staff I could see returning. On offense who knows but the real question is who will be taking over coaching QBs going forward. Also will Day continue handling offensive play-calling as HC or deviate those responsibilities fully to Wilson.

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northwest_buckeye's picture

I don't care. Anywhere but Columbus.

I've never said I 'hate' anyone because that would imply I had any emotion for them whatsoever.

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Extramedium's picture

Schiano coached very good defenses for us, he’s fine.  The difference is we lost Coombs and hired Grinch.  Oh and Bill Davis

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Dstacify's picture

I have no clue where Schiano might end up but he and Davis are both at OSU because of their relationships with Meyer. Clearly Schiano and Day have a great working relationship (Schiano did nothing but praise him during his run as interim HC at the start of the year) but I think Schiano can officially be labeled as part of the old guard at this point. If he does stick around it won't be for more than 1 season. I certainly hope Davis is gone.

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Monclovabuckeye's picture

Day gave Schiano a gracious thank you for all of his help during Day's interim period. It would not surprise me if Schiano stays.

I don't give a damn for the whole state of Xichigan.

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dcbucks's picture

This looks more like an Urban Meyer handoff than a punt. Glad to see things are going this way not that I expected the punt. 

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Dstacify's picture

That's 100% what this is. What Meyer did at Florida was a punt. Not only that he punted that program directly into the sun on his way out and they still haven't recovered from it. Thankfully that's not the case here.

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NoMad Buck's picture

Stoops to Riley gave a blueprint.

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LABuckeye's picture

This is critically important, and why I won't worry about Day as HC until there is a reason to worry about Day as HC. This program is a monster. Losing stability at the top is how you end up with a drop-off like other programs have seen.

I would've been more concerned about all of this if the University announced it was going through a coaching search process. Then, everything is up in the air and you don't know what's happening in the future.

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armynurseboy's picture

My only concern us a drop off in recruiting. Lots of kids come to Columbus specifically to play for Urban. Day us a great coach, but doesn't have the instant brand recognition that Urban has as he really hasn't built a reputation yet.

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hitlikemikedoss's picture

Please keep coach Johnson as well. That man is a living legend. 

OSU ALUM

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bwherbert's picture

Great news. Try to keep Larry Johnson, Brian Hartline too please!

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Gametime's picture

I wonder what the rest of Ryan Day's staff will look like....and it makes me wonder if this was in the cards even prior to all the McDouchebag stuff earlier this season. With Davis, Wilson (to a lesser extent), and Schiano being "Urban's Guys"  I wonder if they'll be out as well?

Are there any position coaches anyone knows of that could replace those guys should that be the case?

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

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linepilot15's picture

I really hope he replaces Schiano. I've hated his scheme since he took over. The Buckeyes won in spite of him...just terrible job IMO.

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Dstacify's picture

Schiano was really good his first season here when he was working with Fickell. We can definitely credit Malik Hooker's development to Schiano (he was coaching safeties at the time). I did not expect Hooker to turn out nearly as good as he did.

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Spider1944's picture

did not expect Hooker to turn out nearly as good as he did.

Hookers teammates did. Basically 3 or 4 players said “no”, he has been doing that in practice all the time. 

Go Bucks!! 

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

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Dstacify's picture

Hooker was also a 3-star recruit who did absolutely nothing under Ash and who nearly quit the team at one point because he wasn't adjusting to the game quickly enough. Schiano clearly helped his development quite a bit.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

I did not expect Hooker to turn out nearly as good as he did.

Never underestimate a Hooker

Shandy is not beer

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buckeye1964's picture

i don't think schiano is the problem - defense  started to regress when bill davis was hired to coach linebackers.

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buellerC11's picture

It's probably a combo of both Schiano and Davis, but these linebackers have been called out by everyone all season as being lost and out of place.  In my opinion, it would be nice for Schiano to get a chance at the defense with a good linebackers coach.  He was a coach for some good defenses, though with Fickell.

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Lighteyes's picture

I can't imagine Bill Davis is back. He's only on staff because of Meyer and has been very shaky as a coach. Maybe he 'resigns' with an announcement that he would really like to return to his NFL roots, maybe he's straight up fired, but I just don't see any way he comes back*. If Marcus Freeman would be willing to leave Fickell and Cincinnati, I would love to see Day bring him in. But by all reports, he has a really close relationship with Fickell, so I'm not really expecting that to work out.

*Unless there's some quiet agreement between Day and Gene Smith that he can't fire any assistants this year (a'la Fickell's interim year). Which I seriously doubt, since Ryan Day has had enough offers elsewhere that I can't see him agreeing to that.

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Dstacify's picture

Day has a whole off-season to prepare for 2019 as HC. Fickell had all of 3-4 months in 2011 which is why no staff changes were made (aside from hiring Vrabel to coach LBs). I can't see that being the case here. Now if Day chooses to keep Davis on staff out of loyalty and respect to Meyer (which is basically what Lincoln Riley did with Mike Stoops at OU at least until this season) that's another story. Day can respect everything Meyer built here just fine without keeping the weak links around for no good reason.

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DarrylJenks's picture

Sad to say this, but I think this gives an opening for Larry Sifu Johnson to retire.

Darr

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brothadudeguy's picture

Wasn't earlier this season that he put to rest that he was going to retire?

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UpIrons's picture

This is great news and I am glad that we have this info already.

Now all we need to know about is Haskins. I gotta think he is leaving for sure now that Urban is retiring.

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BrutusB's picture

I would be absolutely over the moon if he somehow stuck around, but that'd be borderline irresponsible at this point.  He seems like a first round lock.

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linepilot15's picture

He's probably leaving but if he was to return he would be a Heisman frontrunner next year.

linepilot

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parabuckeye's picture

Should be this year.

Let Meatchicken Beat Meatchicken!!!!

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Dstacify's picture

I think Haskins would've left to get paid regardless if Urban returned but I also think Dwayne has a stronger relationship with Day than he has with Meyer. If he shockingly does decide to return for one more year I would think Day becoming HC might have something to do with it. Haskins endorsed Day pretty strongly as HC after the TCU win.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Well as long as Brian Voltolini stays...

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Buckeye2011's picture

Larry Johnson is a must!!!!!!!!!

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BuckeyeBobcat's picture

Johnson and Hartline please. O-line has marked improvement - maybe keep stud. Not sold on tavers or grinch yet. I think schiano is gone anyway for head coach somewhere. I hope Davis is gone - that man hasnt held a job longer than two years in his career.

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Jay_sizzle's picture

Id say fire Schiano , Grinch & Davis and look for good undercover young guys

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TraptnMI's picture

No way. Grinch is our new DC. That’s why he and Day were brought in to be groomed for succession. Get rid of Davis and bring in Lil Animal and for offensive line coach, I have no idea

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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gutterwaste's picture

Maybe coach Day is OSU's Dabo? Highly respected coordinator that filled in then got the HC gig...trying to find the silver lining

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linepilot15's picture

It's all about recruiting. Dabo proved to be a great recruiter, time will tell if Day will be. He has his work cut out for him with the coaching change, we need to hold onto what we have! 

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BrutusB's picture

Dabo wasn't even a coordinator.  Took over as WR coach and immediately fired the OC.

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OSUTexan's picture

I wish they would all stay except Davis.

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ARMYBUCK's picture

I hope we keep Urbans Real Life Wednesday intact as well. Seems like 85% of recruits mention it as one of the deciding factors in their commitment. The alumni numbers and connections are not going anywhere so we might as well continue to use it as the amazing recruiting and life tool that it is.

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stantmann's picture

Whatever you do, please keep Kevin Wilson too. If Larry Johnson isn't retiring, keep him too, Pay them anything they want, they will keep you winning for years to come.

"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra

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ARMYBUCK's picture

Agreed. Kevin Wilson is extremely overlooked IMO

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Dstacify's picture

I don't think it will be too hard to keep Wilson. He and Day have a good relationship and he's not going to be a hot HC candidate anytime soon given what he was fired for at IU (especially not after what just happened with Durkin at Maryland). So I think he returns.

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whalewars's picture

When do we announce that Bill Davis is, uh, “retiring” and Ryan Shazier is coming to coach linebackers?

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logamaniac's picture

I’d rather have spielman or someone to accentuate safe textbook tackling. 

Love shazier but did not love his methods. 

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whalewars's picture

Well, let’s face it, anyone, literally anyone, or even no one, would be an upgrade.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Spielman has previously said that he was only interested in being a "head coach or bust," but that'd be great if he's changed his mind and wants to come to Ohio State as LB coach to help Day succeed.

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Ole Buckeye's picture

Spielman just finally settled his lawsuit against OSU.  Hard to believe he would turn around and take a coaching job at OSU. 

But I never thought Vrabel would be very good and look at him now. 

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logamaniac's picture

Let’s bump LJ’s pay while we are at it.  

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Sanantonefan's picture

Kevin Wilson - OC

Larry Johnson - pay the man!

Grinch - DC

Hartline - full time WR coach

Then we can go from there.

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Sanantonefan's picture

I think Alford is doing a great job too.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

Pay these men whatever they want. Seriously

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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patriot-missile's picture

I hope Larry Johnson stays as well.  Dude is a legend!

Kellen Winslow - Where can I get a sweater vest like yours?
Jim Tressel - Hit the weight room and you can borrow one of mine.

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Barfolomew's picture

Extremely good news on Mariotti and Pantoni

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Ca114fire's picture

Marotti is like Coombs, you'll miss him when hes gone and then wish you gave him a blank check. Thank God

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Buckeyejohn's picture

I may be off base, but retaining these individuals is more crucial than retaining the actual position coaches. Coach Mick’s impact should not be underestimated. He is the heart of the program. 

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zeketolliver's picture

Whatever happens, I just hope Day fixes the damned defense.

I would say Day's best chance of retaining Johnson would be a promotion to D coordinator.

I hope Davis is gone. I wouldn't be surprised if Alford and Studrawa are gone.

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Trebor40's picture

Alford is a good coach, I hope he stays as JK Dobbins final year in Columbus is coming.  

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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BrutusB's picture

Alford interviewed for the BG job. I think he’s ready to move on regardless. 

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SSNET's picture

Get Coombs back, at all costs.

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typeOHpositive's picture

Mick is the most important piece of the puzzle. Thank you Mick for being a Buckeye !!

"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM

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OSUnWV's picture

Schiano , Davis can leave this afternoon for all I care , try to get Coombs back . Id keep Alford ,Grinch and Hartline. He should ask Larry J how much it takes to keep him , then pay him even more on top of that . 

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FearTheShoe's picture

Thanks for the memories coach! 7-0 Vs scUM is equal to like 2-3 nattys in my book

Bo NEVER won a national title!

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nm_buck's picture

Wonder if this presents an opportunity to lure Coombs back into a higher position on the defense...

"The future is bright at Ohio State."  - Urban Meyer 1/1/15

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nickel beer's picture

If I've learned anything over so many seasons, the program doesn't even get off the ground without superior S&C.  The kind of mind body spirit melding that Marotti does, and has done, is incredible.  It's been an essential difference maker and we see the results every year--especially during the Game. 

LJ has to stay, too.  He wants to coach, he said so, and his decision over 'the effort to retain him on staff' will tell me a lot. 

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aledyard's picture

I am sure on the surface it seems like the fact that key Meyer assistants are staying is a positive, but what it tells me is that Meyer controlled both his retirement and what happens after he leaves.  I think this is a big mistake and just speaks to the lack of head coaching experience and leadership abilities of Day.  These guys are all Meyer's guys that have been with him forever. It just seems like a new head coach would want to bring in his own guys to help run the program and not keep holdovers from the previous coach.

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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BrutusB's picture

How did you twist this into a negative?  Those guys are staying to smooth a transition.  If Day wants to kick any of them out in a year or two he can do it then.

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aledyard's picture

I don't have a problem with Day deciding to retain some of Meyer's staff, but the guys he retained are all Meyer loyalists who have been with him forever.  It just seems like either Meyer dictated that these guys be retained or that Day, because of his lack of head coaching experience, didn't know what else to do so he just retained these guys.  Neither one of those scenarios is a positive situation for me. I think Day is in over his head as OSU's head football coach and I think it was a huge mistake not to open up the coaching search and interview other candidates.  

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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BrutusB's picture

If its five years from now and literally all of them are still here, then maybe you have a point that he never got his own guys.  But there's nothing wrong with keeping them for now.

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Dstacify's picture

Clearly you don't follow Mickey Marotti's body of work very much. Losing him would be devastating to this program, perhaps almost as devastating as losing Meyer himself. When Meyer was suspended to start the year according to Day Marotti was the emotional core of the team and was instrumental in holding things together and keeping the players motivated. Who cares about his deep ties to Urban? Moving on from Marotti is a much different conversation than moving on from someone like Bill Davis for example (who we've heard nothing about so far). IMO we should hope Marotti wants to spend the entirety of his career at OSU going forward because he's been a tremendous asset to this program.

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aledyard's picture

If it were just Marotti, I would be OK with that.  It's the fact that it is the entire cast of characters that have been with Meyer forever.  That shouldn't happen when a new head coach comes in, even if that new head coach is an internal hire.  

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

That shouldn't happen when a new head coach comes in.

I caution you to be skeptical of any one-size-fits-all rule or solution in life, not just in football. 

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exnwohiobuckfan's picture

Could it also be that these guys are at the top of their professions?  Just because someone is Urban’s guy doesn’t mean he can’t be Ryan’s guy too. 

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aboynamedtracy's picture

So that's what you'd do as a newly appointed CEO, fire all executive management at a place where business was booming when you were hired?

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aledyard's picture

No, but all staffing decisions would be my decision.  The decision to retain Meyer's cadre of admin staff appears to me to be either heavily influenced by Meyer or is a result of Day's lack of leadership/coaching experience to bring in his own guys.  I will also point out that the only admin staff/coach that Meyer retained was Fickell when he was hired. 

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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Buckeytrips's picture

you have nothing to base this off of other than what YOU would do. if you can not see the positive in this then there is something wrong on your end. 

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aledyard's picture

I get that a lot of fans see this as a positive because it maintains a link to Meyer and is perhaps important for continuity.  I just don't see it that way.  If we have a new coach, I want him to come in with his own guys and his own philosophy on how things should be run.  It should be a clean break from the Meyer era.  At the very least, the decision on any and all future/current coaches/admin staff should not be made until Day's first day on the job - Jan 2nd.  

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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cronimi's picture

No, but all staffing decisions would be my decision. The decision to retain Meyer's cadre of admin staff appears to me to be either heavily influenced by Meyer or is a result of Day's lack of leadership/coaching experience to bring in his own guys. 

So your retaining all of the prior CEO's executives would be your decision, but Day's retaining the football program's executives is either Meyer controlling the situation or Day's lack of experience?!? Maybe -- just maybe -- Day realizes (as many of us do) that these guys are among the best at their jobs and it would be foolish to replace them at this time, not only because they are elite in their roles but also for continuity. 

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Yeah, Aledyard is making multiple cognitive errors here, with at least two I can recognize:

  1. As you point out, he/she is claiming to know things that he/she cannot know
  2. He/she is arguing a one-size-fits-all "solution" (any time a new coach comes in, it's better if the new coach does, and/or is allowed to do, X, Y, and Z)  
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brothadudeguy's picture

How do you know that Ryan Day didn't retain these people because the simple fact that they are excellent at what they do? We already know for a fact that Marotti is one of the best in the business. Would it be smart to replace someone that is great at what they do simply because "its not their guy".

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aledyard's picture

Ryan Day isn't the coach until January 2nd.  So I just think that all coaching/admin staff decisions should not be made until he takes over.  To me it just looks like these decisions were made, or at least heavily influenced by, Meyer. 

"In America, anyone can become president.  That's the problem."  George Carlin

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brothadudeguy's picture

Ryan Day has already been announced as the coach. I understand that its not official until Jan. 2nd but I can't imagine that decisions like these are made by anyone but himself. He has worked with these people for 2 years now and knows what they are capable of. Maybe they came highly recommended by Meyer but its ultimately Day's decision. I'm sure Best Man Bill Davis will be highly recommended as well but notice his name is not listed.  

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Buckeyenurse1's picture

Or maybe he has worked with some of these people long enough to respect the work they do and know how valuable they are to the program. You are assuming he has a bunch of better staff members in his back pocket ready to pull out. 

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bd2999's picture

Great to keep those guys. Just have to see what happens at the position coach level now. Some guys need to go and they need to keep others to maintain recruiting during the transition and to help in general. Hope to get word about some of the position coaches staying on in the coming weeks. LJ being the biggest one .

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another-navy-buckeye's picture

Exactly. We are not a broken program. We don't need to rebuild. We lost one game, albeit against Purdue. Day is not coming in to fix the team. Recruits see a very successful and competitive team. They know these coaches. It would be foolish to come in and clean house on a 12 - 1 team and Day knows this. What we have overall is working and itd dumb to make changes just for the sake of change.

Blessed to be a Buckeye

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cricejr's picture

My main thoughts are with the people who wanted Meyer and everyone else gone...most of your dream has come true!  But please keep the bitching to yourself if the results aren't undefeated seasons, which we all know are easy.

I bleed scarlet...literally

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BuckeyeRy4's picture

This news...it's good news.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Marotti sticking around is honestly huge for this team.

Pantoni as well. Keep the off-field things as they are.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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D Mac 24's picture

Keep:

Def Coord Grinch

DL Coach Johnson 

Off Coord Wilson

RB Coach Alford

WR Coach Hartline

Replace:

LB Coach

Off Line Coach

DB Coach

Basically bring back Coombs and Warriner!!

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Triv's picture

Basically bring back Coombs and Warriner!!

FTFY. Warriner will not be coming back, he did not leave on good terms with OSU at all.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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NoVAsmitty's picture

The program S&C, mgmt/admin retentions are a very good start. 

Definitely want Wilson to return.  He and Day were clicking, and getting some of the run game stuff worked out MD, ttun, and BCG.  The O was hitting high gear the final three games.  Hartline was also exceptional, and Alford is a good coach and even better recruiter.  He's done very well in TN and the mid-South.    

Will be interesting to see what happens with Studrawa.  Today's announcement might be somewhat a blessing in disguise, as it will naturally force Schiano and Davis to go fend for themselves.     

Retain LJ.  I think going with Grinch is the better direction as well.    

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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Thatunmguy's picture

But will they keep Larry Johnson. Please say yes....

Buckeye4Life_2009Alum

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CreekBuck's picture

Kevin Wilson - OC. Need to focus on run game more. Stay or Go; Day true OC.

Tony Alford - Retain, give him more OC Run Cooridnator duties.

Larry Johnson - TBDDLCITL -The Best Damn Defensive Line Coach in the Land.

Grinch - DC, open togiving him a shot

Hartline - full time WR coach. Kepp an NFL Buckeye on Staff that performs.

Studrawa - If there's a better option, go with it, but if not keep the stability.

Hire  a Special Teams coach...Coombs (can double as DB coach too)

Davis has to go. Spielman ir Lauranitis would be nice.  Someone who played the position at a high level at the highest level.

Schiano - time for a different voice; Grinch.

Taver Johnson - maybe another year with a change at DC could help DBs. 

You win with people.

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LouBuck35's picture

I'm all for Davis going.  Don't think Speilman has any desire to coach.  Little Animal seems pretty content on the radio and TV.  They SHOULD, however, go hard after Marcus Freeman and try to steal him from Fickell's staff.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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seyekcuB's picture

If I was betting on it this^^^^

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'll be interested to see how Coach Day approaches the offense in general:

  • Will he retain Wilson as the sole OC?
  • Will Day still call plays?
  • Will Day still essentially be the QB coach or will he hire a QB coach?

The answers to these questions probably depend on whether Day will be more of a CEO-style coach (e.g., Urban Meyer), who manages all aspects of the team but does not try to run any one particular area, or more of an offensive specialist head coach (e.g., Lincoln Riley) who largely runs the offense, while giving the DC and his coaches almost total independence.    

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cronimi's picture

I think he'll need to have a full-time QB coach. We've seen what happens when the HC is also the QB coach, in practice if not in title (Tress with Siciliano). The HC has too much on his plate to also coach such a pivotal position.

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MindSurfr's picture

Keeping Stamper and Voltolini makes a statement that the off-field Zach Smith issues is not the reason why Meyer "retires". They would have been gone too since they were involved with everything Meyer was accused of... Happy to see the subtle nod to reinforce this that Meyer retired on his own terms.

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osu992's picture

I think as long as UFM is still working for the Athletic Department, Mickey Marotti will be here the shorter of Ryan Day's tenure and retirement.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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Trebor40's picture

Marotti as well as the other gentlemen will make life for Day so much easier. I think Schiano leaves and our defense becomes more streamlined given on true DC in Grinch and he can help Day grab a solid LB coach - say James Laurinaitis! Much as Hartline has shown - we have a few solid young alumni who are ready!

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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Yoda888's picture

how good is Day at recruiting?  he's young and unproven, so it could be a double edge sword in today's 1-and-done culture.  will recruits look at him as "raw", "unproven" vs other more established HCs?  this could be a knock against the team when it comes to 4-5 star recruits.  Saban, Swinney, Franklin, etc... will be using this as a weapon.

keeping LJ, Mick, Hartline, and Wilson will be key.  Davis and Schiano is too tainted.  Grinch, probably should be given another season or 2 to prove himself.  but Day could let him go because he's not a "proven" D coach.  

The key to success for Day could be to convince NFL position coaches to be part of his staff...to buffer his CV.

thanks, coach Meyer.

GO BUCKS.

Yoda888

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Lighteyes's picture

For whatever it's worth, Day is one of the primary recruiters for Ohio State's two best 2019 commits (five-star WR Wilson and five-star OL Miller) and both of them have said that they're as close to Day as they were to Urban. So while you can't necessarily say he's entirely 'proven' as a recruiter, he's certainly starting off pretty well.

Also, I'd be wary of hiring NFL position coaches. Bill Davis was a long-time NFL LB coach and that unit has been arguably the most disappointing in both of his years at OSU. It can work out if it's the right guy, but it needs to be someone who really wants to recruit, really understands how to teach basic fundamentals, and really know how to simplify things to be taught effectively in limited practice time.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Many important factors. I hope very strong consideration is given to the concept of hiring and keeping the very BEST recruiting coordinator available. Key to winning is having and development of great talent. Please consider doing this

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O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

Coach Mick, Pantoni, Stamper, and Voltolini are the 4 faces on the Mount Rushmore of our off field program. They are the best. Thank you for staying here, gentlemen, and carrying on the great work.

Win the next National Championship in honor of Urban.

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SunnysideVH's picture

Why have no star players competed successfully against our five star super atheletes? Why indeed! It is due to being over trained by the strength and conditioning coaches. The only thing I know about football is that I love the Buckeyes but I do know the science of strength training. And I do know that the weakest link in the chain is Mr. Marotti's staff. Their techniques were out dated in the late 1960's. They have to go!

I reiterate, strength training is a science and each player must have a routine tailored specifically to that person, not a group routine. It is a testament to the players that they continue to perform as well as they do inspite of the harm being done by the coaches. Mr. Marotti is guilty of malpractice. One day an enterprising lawyer will notice the malpractice being done and will file suit against OSU for the damage done that has prevented an athelete from earning millions in the NFL. They have to go now!

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

...I do know the science of strength training. And I do know that the weakest link in the chain is Mr. Marotti's staff. Their techniques were out dated in the late 1960's. They have to go!

...

Mr. Marotti is guilty of malpractice.

Not sure if this satire or delusional.

Shandy is not beer

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cronimi's picture

The sentence that followed that, suggesting some lawyer is going to sue OSU for "strength and conditioning malpractice", shows that it's delusional.

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jbbucks's picture

Great that these staff members are staying.  Not crazy about what I’ve seen from Grinch so far.  For the most part, safety play was abysmal this year.

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KYBuck's picture

Grinch openly admitted that he did not have any real 'say' over what went on in the defensive backfield. I say give the man a chance to do it his way. He's had some pretty decent results before he came to tOSU. I think with the kind of talent that comes to Columbus, he could develop some outstanding players. 

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SleepyLeviathan's picture

Great moves to retain Marotti (one of the best S&C coaches in the country), Stamper and Pantoni. 

I'd say Schiano is gone, but I'm having difficulty thinking of a place where he would take a HC position. 

Throw a blank check at Johnson, he's the best DL coach in country and an excellent recruiter. 

Hartline needs to be promoted to full time WR coach ASAP. 

I think Davis is gone. I would love to see us try to go after Marcus Freeman, or possibly tap Lauranitus, who was a very good NFL LB and has expressed interest multiple times in coming back to coach at OSU.

Ideal staff

OC/QB coach: Wilson, with Day still working with the QBs when he can.

RB Coach: Alford if he doesn't take the BG job, go after the best available if he does. 

WR Coach: Hartline, no brainer

OL Coach: Studrawa has done a pretty good job here. OL woes this year were due to having players play out of position (Jordan) and our big time OL recruits still being very young (NPF, Jones, Davis, Myers). 

DC: Grinch (he was brought here and groomed to take over for Schiano, who will be taking a HC job somewhere)

DL Coach: Johnson (arguably the highest priority to retain from a recruiting and coaching standpoint)

LB Coach: Freeman or Lauranitus. Davis should be gone for performance of his unit.  

DB Coach: Taver (Schiano's aggressive press man scheme/ keeping LBs close to the LoS was a big reason for our defensive woes this year).

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Citybuck's picture

I would like to see Ohio State give all those individuals a pay raise....

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Buckeye-Bliggidy's picture

I hate to see Urban go, but if he's gonna - this is the way it should have gone - with Day taking over. I'm so excited to see what he does. Here's hoping for a more aggressive, smarter team next season - and another win over TTUN.

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ChazBuckeye's picture

So I wonder what happens to Schiano, Grinch, Wilson, and the others? ;)

It is time!!!!!

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