You're right I did not pose a question. Why are we stuck playing them every year when they are not in our division? The crossover games are supposed to rotate.
Because if they can go back to the Nebraska of old, those will be great games and great matchups. I welcome it if Frost stays and can right the ship. I want to play the best every year. I am sorry but I don't get excited when we destroy Rutgers or Illinois. I would rather have a close game against a worthy opponent like Nebraska every year and then beat them again in the CCG.
Imagine that SOS every year. Sparty, TTUN, Penn State, Nebraska/Nebraska or a top 15 West Team, plus you add in another top 25 team such as Oregon/Notre Dame/Texas/etc. - Nobody will beat that schedule.
I welcome it. It is why you play in the BIG and why you play for Ohio State. If you want a pansy ass schedule, go to the ACC or Big XII
And then we'll lose a game and be automatically eliminated from the playoffs, thats how this game works. Ohio State needs to stop taking the Big Ten's bullshit. We're in it to win it, not make the Big Ten TV dollars.
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No, you play that murderers row and you will not be punished as harshly. You lose to Purdue by 29, you get punished. You lose to Iowa by 31 you get punished.
Fact is, 12-1 for OSU was not the same as OU 12-1. I could not make an argument saying we should get in ahead of OU. I wish I had a strong argument but I don't this year. If UGA got in ahead of us, then I have a huge argument we got screwed.
This is the first year there are 3 undefeated teams on top. Notre Dame screws things up big time. Without ND we are in over UGA because we won the conference with 1 loss. If we had 2 losses and UGA had 2 losses, they get the nod ahead of us.
It matters who you lose too. A loss to a top 10 team by 14 points is not going to hurt as much as a loss to a bad team by 30 points. Moral of the story is don't lose to Purdue, and especially, don't get your a$$ handed to you by Purdue. If we only lost to Purdue by 3 points, I can make a better argument, but we lost by 29. OU just had the better resume this year.
Are we? This is news to me... Because I am pretty sure Georgia finished at #5.
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The B1G previously stated that they wanted to competitively schedule the crossover games so we're going to be stuck with Nebraska, Wisconsin and Iowa more often than Illinois, Minnesota and Purdue.
Which is why the Big Ten will forever be left out of the playoffs. They don't know how to play the game
I don’t know about you, but I’d rather play the bottom of the West than Rutgers and Maryland every year. They don’t have any pageantry in the conference. Although I wish we could swap Illinois out with Missouri. I know it would look strange on a map but who cares?
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Is this for real? How the hell is this fair? So OSU is better and as a result they get a tougher schedule than everyone else in the conference? Makes no sense at all. From a fan perspective, it's nice, but i don't think it's fair to the team. Also, the committee has shown SOS doesn't really matter so this doesn't even help in that regard.
While I agree with your point, you need to also remember that if you take the teams in the East, OSU doesn't have to play OSU, they play Rutgers. Rutgers on the other hand doesn't get the game against Rutgers they get the game against OSU. In short the lesser teams have a tougher time naturally.
I agree it's stupid. We played UMD, a team with players we actually wanted and won but dropped while Bama played the Citadel.
I like the idea of OSU playing OSU..
Notre Dame should have been forced to play itself as penance.
My understanding, and I'm not certain about this, is that the Big Ten uses protected crossovers. This was done to protect the IU-PU rivalry I think, but now every team has a protected crossover in the other division and ours is Nebraska. I think all of the teams besides IU and PU are supposed to rotate protected cross-over games once every 4-5 yrs.
This is not correct (although I believe you are correct about IU-PU being protected).
Please feel free to correct me, I would appreciate actually knowing
Looks like we have a non permanent protected rival for six years at a time (except for IU-PU, which is permanent). As you noted below, it changes in 2022. I have a hard time believing these are truly random as the article claims looking at Michigan and Ohio State getting Nebraska and UW.
And I think after Nebraska, Wisconsin becomes our new protected rival in like the early 2020s.
Yes there are protected cross-overs and it is my understanding that the OSU vs Neb. cross-over was one ingredient of the negotiations when they joined the B1G. (It may have been what the B1G gave them to help them swallow the ramp-up until they got a full share.)
This is my recollection as well. To tide Nebraska over until they received a permanent share, they'd get bigger-name teams coming to Memorial Stadium. It was originally tied to the leader and legends fiasco, but it took a break when they went to east/west.
We've played Nebraska the last three years('16-'18) and will play them each year at least through the 2022 year
2021. Miss them in 2022 and 2023. Back in 2024 and miss in 2025.
I saw someone post that TTUN has played Florida more times than they have five fellow big ten schools
More wins in the past decade, or histoy?
If “history” is the answer, I’m not surprised. Considering Rutgers and Maryland have only been in the Conference for 5 years, there’s probably two. Throw in Nebraska and Penn State, and I wouldnt be surprised if that’s three and four.
Stats can be misleading.
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That makes complete sense. I think they’ve played UF twice in four years and haven’t hit everyone cross conference yet.
So you’d prefer to play Purdue more frequently? Iowa, maybe?
Purdue and Iowa should be OSU’s protected crossovers. For competitive balance and all.
Isn't the Illibuck one of the oldest trophies in the Big Ten? The Illinois game should be protected!!
Yes. But I'd prefer to get rewarded for it, instead of letting ESPN push this hoax that 4 FCS opponents plus Vandy, Ole Miss, Kentucky, and S Carolina - a tough schedule makes. Time to start taking a media hammer to the façade of SEC tough scheduling if you're BTN or Fox.
The alternative might get us in (8 conference games + 3 FCS opponents + 2 timely bye weeks + Eastern Michigan the week before Michigan) but as a fan I don't want a regular season where only 2-3 games matter. That's what Bama and SEC friends have.
Comments like this don’t help. No one in any conference played four FCS teams.
Hey @bigtenconf, just reminding you that Nebraska is in the West!
I feel better now.
I want as many tough teams on the schedule as possible. Watching OSU give up 40 PTs to Nebraska is more digestible than watching them give up 40 to the North Texas' of the world.
While we're at it, can we petition to make Illinois a protected rivalry?
If the B1G were smart, they'd slyly make the Illibuck and the Little Brown Jug protected cross conference rivalry games, not to mention the storied rivalries between Wisconsin & Rutgers, Nebraska & Maryland and Penn St. & Northwestern.
Instead it's the B1G, so they announced OSU would play Wisconsin, Michigan would play Nebraska and Penn St. get Illinois in a big cross division rivalry announcement.
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Big10 was pretty shitty this year. Last year their top 5 best teams/amount of wins finished with were 13, 12, 11, 10, 10. So far this year only tOSU (12) and UM (10) have double digit wins with PSU being the only other school who could finish with 10 wins, if they win their bowl game. I think we're in over Oklahoma if the conference was close to what it was last season.
Would look better if you could dump a loss to a conference foe and pick up an easy win against directional U or FCS. ;)
Like Northwestern losing to Duke and Akron?
Purdue losing to Eastern Michigan?
Maryland losing to Temple?
There are protected crossovers for OSU, UM, PSU with Iowa, Neb, Wis. We started with 6 years of Nebraska, UM locked in with Wisconsin, and PSU has Iowa. Then it switches starting in 2022 - we get 6 years of Wisconsin, then 6 years of Iowa after that.
Yes. The conference literally did the opposite of what they should do.
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I welcome the challenge. Especially if they're good. There's a better chance we don;t overlook them and lose by 3 TDs if they are good and improving and actually a popular name around the country.
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Are you afraid of Nebraska? I would prefer to play Alabama weeks 1-11 and Michigan in Week 12.
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That's what I was thinking. New CFP metrics say losing to Bama is still worth 1 win to your resume. Beating them is worth 2 wins.
So if we play Bama weeks 1-11 and then Michigan in the last week, all we have to do is bat around .500 against Bama and our final CFP record would would be somewhere around 17-0. We'd be in for sure.
Hell, Kirk Herbstreit even believes teams should move up after losing to Bama. I don’t know what ranking is higher than 1, but I would love to find out
Hell, beat them just 2 out of the 11 times and we'd be ranked higher than them. Committee math for the win!
Sure - let's keep making it as hard and challenging as possible on ourselves in B1G play with this, and with the extra conference game, and while we're at it let's schedule two really really tough OOC games to boot. It will make for some great football for sure, but we will be literally playing with ourselves while the SEC and the ACC go to the playoffs every damn year and we don't because we aren't allowed to lose a single game.
Tough schedule will help in recruiting top players. They will come to play in good matchups
We really should schedule the upper half of the SEC OOC, even at the stupid "neutral sites" that happen to be a walk from their campus. We could level just about anyone on a yearly basis minus Alabama, but even a loss to Alabama is considered a better win than 62-39 a #7 Michigan team with the #1 defense. The SEC is going to take our spot? Then let's challenge those losers, and crap on them or publicize how they aren't willing to play the top B1G teams.
I'm generally against rooting for/against conferences, but I sure hope UK and UF are curbstomped like no other just to show how absolutely ridiculous it is to consider those teams anywhere near the Top 20. Alabama/Georgia/sometimes LSU are great teams, but that's it and the rest are very very average.
If you look at the upcoming years schedules it looks like the B1G office is screwing us. Next year we have Penn State the week before TTUN as well as in 2021, and then we also have Sparty twice before TTUN in 2024 and 2025.
I would think it would be Nebraska fans that would be upset with this schedule. They don't scare me.
Hopefully it will be an 8 team playoff by then.
The only protected crossover is IU-PU. To get competitive series, they scheduled OSU-Nebraska for 2016-2021. After that it is allegedly random so PSU gets Illinois and Iowa gets Rutgers. Random? Over 36 years, each cross-division team plays 16 times. Unless the B1G comes to its senses and goes back to eight conference games. Maybe expansion in 2022/2023 will be the impetus.
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everyone here is batshit crazy! if we're TRULY "in it to win it", then we should be scheduling vanderbilt, the citadel, and ne louisiana. who's with me??!!
The B1G came up with some kind of formula where they identified a "partner school" for each team in the opposite direction and put them on the schedule for 4 consecutive years. Supposedly they were pairing them up to be "competitive equals" OSU got Nebraska (poor Huskers), Michigan got Wisky, and I don't know who else got whom. I think we flip to Wisky after the 4 years of Nebraska are over. I suspect after that they will look at the past 4 or 8 years and then re-pair the teams. Then they just rotate the rest of the West in some kind of order, but it doesn't appear that these are 2 year deals, only 1 so you play 2 teams this year, 2 different teams next year, etc.
Well, w/ a tougher OOC schedule and the fact that we will probably face a higher ranked team than #19 in the B1G Championship, the committee will probably over look a slip up at Purdue
Nebraska a good name, but you'd figure th er y would rotate the western division schools more evenly and frequently.