People are gonna stay upset then because Ohio state always has nice things ;)
I think this has the potential to be the best playoff yet as far as match up. Year 1, the sugar bowl was great, obviously, but the rose bowl saw Oregon boat race FSU and Ohio state dominated oregona for the title (great in my opinion lol)
year 2 the Clemson vs Oklahoma game was tight for the first half and Clemson took over the second half. Bama vs MSU was just awful. However the championship game was a dandy!
I think the Clemson vs OSU matchup will be a great one! Clemsons offense and passing game vs Ohio states defense and their secondary should be a sight to see. I feel with 27 days to prepare that Urban will put together a great offensive game plan to attack clemsons D that has given up some big yardage high scoring games. Turnovers will likely be the key in this one.
Bama has looked like a monster at times this year with their ridiculous defense. But Peterson is a hell of a coach with near a month to prepare with a innovative offense that's nothing like Bama has seen this year. I still feel Bama wins and just wear them down come the 4th quarter, but it wouldn't surprise me one big to see Washington come out swinging and make a game of or even pull the upset. Obviously limiting turnovers and not allowing Bama defense or special teams to kill ya is huge in being able to pull it off. I'd like to see wahsingtons passing game pull out all the stops and jump out to a lead, limit the give award and force the Bama offense to keep pace. Bama is loaded everywhere but their defense has made games so lopsided I'm not sure anyways knows how their offense will respond when or if they have take control of a game
I wouldn't say last year was a disappointment myself as far as overall finish. I'll never bitch about a 12-1 season that includes wins over Michigan and a bowl game.
To me the biggest take away and disappointment was how the team played for the majority of the season. They came out hot against VaTech then everything just seemed to be a mess up until losing to MSU. There was no consistency and with so much talent, at times the talent wasn't even noticeable. I can handle losing to MSU if they both come out swinging both playing great teams and one team having to find a way to win it. Playing like garbage for weeks prior then laying an egg was a huge let down. It was even more of a let down seeing how they came out and destroyed michign and notre dame. If that team from the last 2 games shows up September, October and November the Buckeyes would have their chance at the repeat.
nonetheless, a 12-1 season with a fiesta bowl is nothing to turn your nose up to
The funny part is the people arguing over penn state jumping Ohio state aren't even on the same terms as the committee. They plainly state that the discussion was among penn state and Washington. Ohio state was safe from the get go.
one thing I'd like to point out that none of the "experts" had brought em up. Let's change the script a little and take Ohio state away and insert notre dame. Notre dame finishes the season 11-1 setting at #2 heading into the championship weekend. No conference affiliation so no conference title is possible. Does anyone actually believe notre dame would have been bumped by a conference champion just because said team was a conference champ? Absolutely, not a chance in hell that happens. They include notre dame because of their season long body of work and putting together a better resume than say penn state or Washington, therefore deflecting the debate back to penn state and Washington. If your one of the 4 best teams and you have a resume to back your case like Ohio state did, then nothing else should matter.
If Ohio state had lost to Oklahoma they're not preparing for the CFP. If Oklahoma had beaten the Buckeyes, only losing to Houston week 1, then I believe the Sooners are in. Strength of schedule by 2 big name teams playing each other put 1 in and kept 1 out. Risk vs reward scheduling tough OOC
My sister won a ticket through the lottery for the CFP championship against Oregon in 14'. Bunch of the students rented a charter bus and went to Dallas for the game and back home next morning. Got reimbursed for her tickets at will call and had a total of about $250 spent for the trip between bus fair, food and memorabilia. Yea I was jealous lol
While I think OSU has a tremendous staff and one of the best of everything in the country, it's not out of the possibility something could go wrong or missed. Take Braxton's shoulder injury for example. Had surgery first of the year, rehabbed and came back and tore it completely over again and had to go see Dr Andrews to perform the surgery over. There's no certainty that the osu medical staff is to blame whether it be from the surgery part or the rehabbing, but there's also questions there, especially since Braxton chose to have the second surgery done else where.
i don't think the OP is trying to down grade the staff by any means, but using logic in his own profession to bring light to another possibilities to some existing issues for JT whether that be the case or not
PSU also conveniently has 2 losses on the season to an average Pitt team and 39 point blow to Michigan. To me those 2 losses are gonna be of more importance than the conference championship when deciding the 4 teams based off an entire seasons body of work.
I do get what you're saying and understand your concern. But I think Ohio state is safe and anyone is at risk it is washington due to their schedule and PAC 12 being down this year.
If penn state could eliminate one of those losses and we're being compared to Ohio state as both 1 loss teams with penn state owning the tie breaker and conference championship, then I think the Buckeyes would be in trouble
Exactly, man! I enjoy talking football with them, well some anyways, the ones who are realistic and knowledgeable lol. But when it comes to setting at the house watching the game I'd just rather watch by myself and analyze everything rather than having someone screaming and carrying on about everything. Don't get me wrong I get frustrated just like everyone else but when things are going great and I'm frustrated the last thing I wanna do is listen to other people bitching lol
Thanks, Major! I'm certainly giving it my best damn shot anyways lol
Absolutely incredible! I rewatched the first 30 seconds prob 20 times. There is no greater sound, feeling and experience of hearing the shoe absolutely explode on a moment like that! Unbelievable!
The end of the video, the embrace between Urban and Nate says it all!
That guy set himself up for it watching the game with a house full of buckeye fans lol. No way in hell I'd go to a house full of UM fans to watch the game. Honestly I prefer to watch the games myself unless I'm with 108,000 crazies at the shoe lol. I've had friends over in the past or even my dad, and more often than not they get on my nerves bitching and moaning about every little thing that doesn't go right lol. It's usually me and my 3yr old who only cares when it's over so he can get back to paw patrol or the avengers haha!
I will say, as most of you all did, I absolutely lost my shit and went nuts when Curtis scored to win the game. I flew off the couch screaming and fist pumping and my little boy ran in and said why you screaming for dad? " I said we just won the game! We beat michigan! His response was throwing his hands in the air and saying "yea! Touchdown! We beat Michigan!" And walked off lol. He's getting the hang of it
The biggest difference is Tebow could be a game changer and find a way to make a big play to help his team. He was a true leader and a really great player. Great Qb? Not really, but a great player
I'm certain Peppers has to be the most overhyped player I can ever recall. He's a great athlete and has a lot of potential. I feel Michigan tried to use him too many various ways making him an above average players at many positions but not a great one at any, aside from maybe his special teams return ability.
Hes a really good special teams guy. He was nothing more than a decoy on offense behind center, basically how osu used Braxton a year ago. And he's an average defensive player at linebacker or DB. He lacks size and instincts at LB and lacks speed a lot of big time DB tend to have. Personally I don't even feel he's the best defensive players on michigans team let alone beat in conference or beat LB is absurd. Possible the 6th best LB on the field Saturday.
Ive watched Michigan play atleast half of their games and never has he given me that wow moment like Hooker or any big name player for that matter. Saturday he played out of position a lot, he over ran plays and took bad angles. He made a piss poor attempt to tackle JT on his 41yd run and JT out ran him for 30 more. He overran Samuels first run of the first OT and allowed Curtis to cut back inside for more yards. Very next play he bit hard on fake to Samuel, lost contain and JT walks into the end zone. Samuels crazy run in double OT to set up forth and short he missed his chances to get ahold of him and on the final play on samuels game winner, peppers just completely out ran the play losing contain and opening a lane for Curtis to trot in for the W. He played a very poor game from my opinion and being the best LB and defender in the conference, in your biggest game for your season and career, that can't happen. Once or twice? Sure, it happens. But multiple times he looked lost
I've rewatched the play multiple times in full speed and slow mo. I've seen various angles from different pics. Trying to be as completely unbiased as possible it looks to me like he got the first down. From front views showing the ball placement to side views showing the line of gain he looked like he hit the 15yd line. One there that is certain there is absolutely no proof that shows he didn't get the first down.
Had this been a 4th and goal and the 1 and it was this close in determining the true outcome I could understand more of the fuss. Seeing as how they let Curtis turn into a magician and run 40 yards to get 8.5 on 3rd down to the setup the 4th and short as well as letting him go untouched for 15 yards to win it, that to me should be the biggest bitch about the defense giving up those 2 huge plays to let osu get in position to win. Another thing I noticed one the 4th down call. Whether I was a designer qb draw from the get go or zone read option for JT, if he handed off to Samuel in motion he most likely sweeps its around the end for a touchdown on that play or atleast an undoubted first down.
Moral of the story is Michigan had 3 terrible turnovers and Ohio state gifted them 2 missed FG and an awful fake punt call. They had their chances to win, convincingly at that, and blew it
I'm extremely ready for Sunday so we can find out what the committee actually decides and can go from there. So much speculation at this point. Nearly everyone associated with the college football world on TV feels osu is a lock. I hope that's true. But none are on the committee so who knows.
i think the biggest threat to Ohio state is washington, Clemson and penn state win out, is if penn state destroys Wisconsin like Ohio state did in 2014
Those cleats would look pretty badass with the blackout unis...
I'll take Mike Weber for 200, please! Would love to see him go Zeke mode.
I just wanna see them come out and play solid as a team like we've seen at times and be 11-1 come 3:30 Saturday afternoon
I'd really enjoy seeing Weber truck Peppers a time or two
What's to hate about Michigan? Spending my child hood and early teenage years growing up in the 90s while John cooper was coach pretty well cemented my hate for Michigan. I watched Desmond strike the heisman pose in the end zone, I seen Biakabutuka run for over 300 yards and Charles Woodson walk off the field with a rose in his teeth. I seen loaded Ohio state teams set for national championships only to have those dreams dashed away that final regular season week against Michigan. A lot of fans today either didn't experience those times or have lost them in all the recent success from Tressel and Meyer.
I grew up hating Michigan all while respecting them as well. I still share that same mindset to this day and always will. Never take the game for granted.
This here is what it's all about. 2 top 5 teams fighting for potential spot in the college playoff, biggest rivalry in all of sports. Ohio state vs Michigan. Let's go!
This was my exact thought reading the initial post and so it happened to be the first response. Neutral site indoors I think really favors the Buckeyes especially their speed. Not to mention I'd would essentially be a home game with the masses of buckeye fans piling into Lucas oil stadium. I do feel Wisconsin would be highly motivated after losing a tough one to the Buckeyes early on and the 2014 embarrassment in the B1G title game.
But, if penn state does in fact beat Michigan state I think the Buckeyes are in a pretty good spot.
All that matter is BEAT. MICHIGAN!
I agree agree as well. I think the fans have the right to question things, especially the play calling today. With the struggles in the passing game and the way Weber was carrying the ball, pound it out and make them stop or setup up the play action like they did beautifully to Samuel on their first TD. It blows my mind at times how they abandon the run and fail to use Curtis Samuel more (8 touches today I believe). It was definitely an off day between JT and the wr group. The shitty weather didn't help, therefore make them stop the run game.
However, I think the complete meltdown over action is unnecessary. It was ugly no doubt. But at this point in the season a win is a win and the dreams/hopes are still alive heading into rivalry week against TTUN! Biggest game of the season against the biggest rivalry for a right to a trip to the playoffs. As a fan what more could you ask for? I'm going to bed content tonight
I agree. People seem to forget the intention of the playoff is to get the 4 best teams not the 4 most deserving. However it works out where those 2 go hand in hand at times but this could be the unique situation to see if the committee truly holds to placing the 4 best.
i seen quoted on twitter today the playoff chairman hocum or hoycum, can't remember this name, essentially said it's their right to place a non conference champion into the playoffs if they're one of the 4 best teams. That basically tells me if Ohio state wins out they'll prove themselves of defining that explanation
I've said this as well. I'm more of a believer that osu got in the playoff in 2014 because of their dominate performance over Wisconsin more so than being B1G champs. It just happened to be they killed 2 birds with 1 stone that night. I'd like to think the Buckeyes team has that same mentality these next 2 weeks to go out and make a statement to finish the season and leave no doubt
If you're looking at the season as a whole the Buckeyes are far more impressive. Penn state has 2 losses. An average Pitt team and Michigan beat the brakes of them. Ohio states 1 loss as we all we know came on the road by 3 points to what could potentially be the B1G champ. Outside of those losses, Ohio states wins are far more impressive. Penn states only signature win is against Ohio state at home. Ohio state won night games on the road against Oklahoma and Wisconsin, 2 teams who have rebounded and worked themselves into the top 10. Also embarrassed Nebraska team that's still in the top 20 and will have a win against a top 5 Michigan team if they do indeed win out and are in the conversation for that CFP spot. There's a night and day difference in their resumes and entire body of work. However I'd would rather penn state lay an egg against sparty or Wisconsin and not have to deal with this debate for 3.5 more weeks