Nicely said - there is talent and we could still see a winning season with the big IF of leaders emerging from the chaos. This is the opportunity of a career for either a coach or players to step up to this challenge and LEAD - maybe not to glorious victory but to restore some fire and pride. Tough times will reveal the character of each member team.
28 - 21 Buckeyes
Not gonna be a bowl ban - that was what vacating the previously-NCAA-approved-Sugar-Bowl-win (and returning the $$$) was all about in our self-imposed sanctions. We've already taken that hit now.
"The delta, she is wide." That's what makes this season so much fun as we count down to Akron - the possibilities are endless. And it would make a major success so much more enjoyable.
Actually got PT in the first half and looked good
At the risk of sounding like an apologist for Herbie, I believe the earlier quote was in the context of his disagreement re the type and style of offense that Tressel ran - not a condemnation of the man's principles or character. He didn't say that he would want his kids playing for him, he was saying who would want to play in that sort of stifling, buttoned-up style of offense.
Another terrific piece Ramzy. Great reading. Very soon I fear (for us) you will be on to bigger and better things. Remember from whence you came.
Disagree with this assertion, "but with an in-state class as talented as that of Ohio’s 2012 crop, the OSU situation is worst-case in terms of timing." I think that the opposite is true. We have a much better chance with in-state recruits who already have a greater affinity for OSU so the more of them of top quality, the better our shot at still having a very good recruiting class. We are extremely fortunate that there is a great in-state class from which to choose (or be chosen by as it were.) We were also already going to be limited in number of offers so again, the timing for this to happen is good (if there could be such a thing).
Had the same thought. Loved the magic he was able to pull off at crunch time but right now I'd say, "No, it wasn't worth it." Ask me again in a couple years and maybe the current pain will have worn off enough to change my mind.
Probably the best sports article I've read in years - great job and I couldn't agree more. We need a good Michigan to beat !!! I laughed so hard when I read the "cake" caption on the picture. He WAS thinking that.
As an old Browns fan - Chip Glass
Absolutely - the reason this loss hurts is because we cared so much. The reason we cared was because this team was a joy to watch. They lost the game - THEIR game, not ours. THEIR loss, not ours. Great season boys - disappointed for you because you played so well all year. Proud of your accomplishments, and there were many. Great post, Todd.
Other than missing too many free throws, what do you not like about Lighty ?
Don't forget how well Boom has protected the ball. Remember that fumble in the Sugar Bowl was his first in forever. No matter how well the youngins run, they have to NOT fumble.
Tat5 still get their jobs back no matter how good the replacements are. Tressel made the deal to have them come back and they play. I would love to see this be a problem.
I want whatever your drinkin'. Undefeated with 30 point victory margin ? Bauser with 75% completions ? That would be great but seems more than a bit unlikely in my book so I'm not thinking there would be much of a problem for the returning starters to get their jobs back.
I gotta believe its Syracuse because of the zone defense they run and its different than what we've seen.
Just because I've felt slighted by him doesn't mean I want him gone. And his role for ESPN is thankfully much larger and different from Mark the idiot May. I really don't want to be the Herbie apologist - he's pissed me off plenty. But we gotta have a thicker skin ourselves ! We aren't perfect and we deserve criticism sometimes. Even if you think its wrong or unfair at least look to see why some reasonable people might disagree with you. There's probably some truth to it even though you don't like it.
I think Herbie still wants to see good things for Ohio State - I really do. He may be wrong in not realizing the platform he is on makes voicing his opinions so much more potentially harmful but they are just his opinions. I can disagree with someone and still not despise them for disagreeing with me. I won't begin to justify all of his statements or poll votes (I can't ) but there are too many people all over this country that think everything is black and white. "If you disagree then then hell with you," and then they never bother to think about WHY someone might disagree. His attacks on Pryor have been over the top but I really think it's Pryor's personna that he dislikes, not the football player. Herbie wants "Tressel-guys" to represent OSU and Pryor is hardly that. We all cringe when he is interviewed in fear of the next crazy, nonsensical thing that will come out. I think Herbie is embarrassed as a former player that Pryor is the current face of the program. Pryor hardly comes off as a responsible, well-spoken, educated young man - even if he really is. As to the comments about not sending his son to OSU, well, Tressel's offensive philosophy is not exactly known as the best place for OFFENSIVE players to really showcase their talents. True ? It works very well to win games but if you were worried about making sure your son had the best chance to shine maybe you would want to see them go elsewhere - if you take the scarlet and gray glassess off. A number of us might think that. He just happened to say it in front of millions of viewers.
All I know is, regardless of the results of the press conference, I will be sitting in front of my TV on Saturday, September 3rd looking forward to watching the Bucks pummel Akron. Life will go on... and change will always be a part of it.