Quite possibly. And maybe he was happy to be at OSU building up his resume, but really wants to coach in the NFL. I'd just like to see an explanation, because right now it looks like possibly the best position coach, possibly the best recruiter (at least among assistant coaches), and the guy, along with Fickell, with the strongest OSU ties just up and left for an equivalent position somewhere else. That doesn't happen without a reason.
Besides being unpleasant news, this is a real head-scratcher for me. Given Vrabel's stated love for OSU, it's hard to see how this can be anything other than the outcome of dysfunction/falling out/unpleasantness among the defensive coaching staff or between the defensive coaching staff and Meyer. That, even more than Vrabel's departure by itself, really concerns me. If it's bad enough that an outstanding coach and recruiter and OSU lifer decided to leave, Meyer has his work cut out for him in cleaning up this mess.
On a happier note, I find it hard to believe that this is the last we've seen of Vrabel at OSU. Can't wait for him to return.
Urban Meyer...I'm honestly starting to believe Braxton's passing ability may be holding them back.
Yep. I think this could have been a championship team with either a better defense or an offense that doesn't rely on QB draws or 20+ yard pass plays to pick up 3rd and 8, but not without both.
he can't seem to execute the concepts necessary to run Urban/Herman's offense at an elite level
I think this is the key. He's a spectacular athlete, but he's not a quarterback. At least not a good quarterback. He forces the coaches to simplify the playbook too much.
Terrible loss, for all the reasons we feared going in - a helpless defense.
Why the bitching about Tom Herman? He does what he can with a quarterback who's really an ATH. He has an arm, but he can't make reads. You really think an OC hasn't heard of a screen pass? No, but he's had to simplify the passing concepts so much that there's nothing left.
But in the end it doesn't really matter because with this defense eking out a win over this Clemson team was about the ceiling for this OSU team anyway. Win or lose here, defense has to take huge strides to compete for the NC.
So tear into Philly Brown or Miller if it makes you feel better, but realize that none of that matters with this defense. There is a systemic problem and until it gets fixed OSU won't be in NC contention.
I wasn't one of the critics above, but has anything happened to make you think he's ready for the NFL? He had a couple of good completions. Underthrew a wide open pass that should have been a touchdown. Ran in a TD on a defensive mistake that never would have happened in the NFL. I'm ecstatic OSU is winning, but this doesn't make Braxton Miller into Peyton Manning.
It worked, but it was badly blown coverage. We might see it again as an incompletion.
I couldn't agree more. He inherited ... not a championship team. We, as fans, got spoiled by the combination of a terrible schedule and, just about always, superior coaching. But Meyer can do much better, and he will.
Yep, Saturday night I told myself that I was done with football at least for a few months. Took a little longer than that to recover. O Line will go through a lean year next year - gotta reload!
Ugh, I don't like this call. I'm all for being aggressive, but why on a 3rd and 10?
Gotta get points here.
Fuck yeah. Come on!!!
4 down territory. Gotta get 5 plus on third down to get a manageable 4th down.
That's because it's just straight up a "break" coverage. There's no bend.
Let's not forget - this is still the offense we've seen all year. It's only a matter of time.
The D has to stop what has been a largely inept MSU O. It's that simple. If the D isn't good enough to do that, this team as a whole isn't great. This O deserves a better D. I'm looking at you head coach - you'd better deal with this in the offseason.
This is where the game will be won or lost. If the D can't stop this offense, it really is game over. This one play doesn't matter that much. If Keeps getting 10-15 yard completions all day the O will never see the ball.
Miller is out of sync and this is a REALLY good D. I don't think they can realistically expect to run Hyde every play this game. Miller will have to make something happen with his feet and/or arm.
Wow, that's a bit early. Maybe give adjustments a chance?
Outdefensed by Dantonio/Narduzzi is more like it.
To those of you insisting that the defense hasn't been somewhere between average and outright poor this season, what will you say if Auburn ends up jumping OSU on the strength of wins against Bama and in the SECCG? We all know about 99.99% of your anger would be directed at OMG ESPiN BIAS, but will you consider the fact that FSU basically has the same schedule strength as OSU and will be the unanimous #1 this week, and next week if they win? FSU isn't in the SEC. For ten years they've been regarded as a joke. But this year they've gone out and taken care of business against inferior competition. Do any of you really think that, had OSU taken care of business the way FSU has, there would be any question at all right now about who would be in the NCG (given OSU and FSU win next week)? Was there any question that Oregon and KState would play in the NCG game last year until their respective losses? How about OKSt two years ago before they lost to Iowa State? This isn't just "media bias". This defense has made the 2013 Buckeye team appear extremely flawed.
I saw that, and I was annoyed too, but after thinking about it some more I think he was just honest. Given what we know about how the computer rankings have worked this year, it sounds entirely plausible that Auburn would jump OSU (and FSU) in those rankings. Clearly the human polls will all have FSU #1. Will OSU's lead over Auburn in the human polls be enough to offset the computer polls? This is what Edwards said. Can you disagree?
Personally, I think voters in the Harris and Coaches won't rank a one loss team ahead of an undefeated team from a major conference. I think the vast majority put OSU at #2, giving OSU enough breathing room to hold off Auburn. Then, if OSU wins next week, I think it solidifies that #2 because MSU is actually good, and largely seen that way.
I won't believe it until I see it. I just can't imagine it. Undefeated teams jumping OSU is one thing, this would be totally different.
Either make major changes on D or don't belong against Bama or FSU. It would be embarrassing.
Um ... Really?