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Veraton


from Parma, OH

Member since 13 December 2012 | Blog

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2010 Alumni, born and raised a Buckeye. Never visited nor needed to visit a college, I knew Ohio State was the place for me before I ever set foot on campus.

Favorites

  • SPORTS MOMENT: 2002 tOSU vs Miami NC Game
  • COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER: Troy Smith (B. Miller and J. Laurinaitis are very close)
  • COLLEGE BASKETBALL PLAYER: Aaron Craft
  • NFL TEAM: Cleveland Browns
  • NHL TEAM: Columbus Bluejackets
  • NBA TEAM: Cleveland Cavaliers
  • MLB TEAM: Cleveland Indians

Recent Activity

Comment 24 Jul 2014

I think it's one thing to get in a bar fight, pee in public or smoke weed.  It's a completely different issue to sexually harass or enable an environment where sexual harassment happens.  I'm sure there are a fair share of band members that also get in bar fights, smoke weed and get caught, and do things the law finds unnacceptable and I am sure they are punished accordingly.  This case is in addition to those occruences.  I would fully expect the University to fire Meyer if he was found to have players participating or enabling sexual harassment during practices or during University travel or even worse like in Waters case when he is present.

I don't think you can sit here and make the argument otherwise or try to tell me that band members don't get involved in bar fights or get caught smoking weed can you?

I don't understand how it is the least likely to fix the situation?  Waters enabled the situation, I'm not sure where your disconnect is.  Had he taken measures to stop this it wouldn't have happened.  These occurrences are happening during times where leadership is present and has done nothing to stop it.  It's one thing if a band member is doing this in the confines of his dorm room or when visiting his home but this is happening when leadership is present.  I'm sorry I respect you as a poster but your arguments don't add up.  Comparing what a football player does outside of the University to what band members are doing during University time with leadership present is completely different.  Now leadership may not have been present during all occurrences but the fact is they were at times and that fosters the culture and thus they should be disciplined.  Example is set from the leadership down, if the leader is unwilling to take the measures necessary to correct the behavior then the it won't get corrected like we have seen.  It's absolutely the right move and I hope the University gets someone in place that takes this seriously, if they set the tone that this behavior isn't acceptable then the culture will begin to change.  Leaving those in place that have enabled it and slapping them on the wrist and telling them to do better sends no message.

Comment 24 Jul 2014

Andy you are absolutely correct that Football players get away with it across the country.  Band members get away with it across the country.  Other students in other organizations get away with it across the country.  That does not make it any more alright!  We can't just keep giving people passes just because it's happening elsewhere.

Waters was in the position of leader of the band.  Pure and simple one of his responsibilities was to monitor the culture of one of the more outwardly visibly parts of what is supposed to be an esteemed University.  The behavior that occurred and is occurring isn't acceptable by any means for even college students.  If college students want to behave this way on their on time then so be it, but when representing the University much like being an employee of a company they are held to a higher standard.  This standard was not being adhered too under Waters watch and obviously from the previous posts under the previous leaderships watch.  Waters didn't take corrective action and just because the leaders before him enabled it as well doesn't make him any less responsible.

This isn't a matter of being to PC, this is a matter of accountability.  Waters is accountable for the actions of his band members and how they represent the University.  The band members obviously are not representing the university to the standards that WE all should expect and thus he was fired.  

Comment 24 Jul 2014

I stated this in a previous post on here but I am OSU grad in my 20's with a sister in her 20's.  Do you have a sister?  In no way would I be happy or find it acceptable of a culture that forced my sister to pretend to give me a blow job. That alone for me is enough to show there is a problem and leadership should be changed.  Maybe Waters came into a situation where this was already the culture but that doesn't make it any less excusable that he didn't try to change it and this is still going on.   Maybe firing him isn't the complete answer but it also doesn't help to leave him in place when he has enabled it.

Comment 24 Jul 2014

I am curious to know where you draw the line between overly politically correct? Sexual names sure an innocent joke, making someones sister imitate a blow job in the lap of her brother... not so much.  Do you have a sister? I am a recent OSU grad in my 20's with a sister also in her 20's and I don't think I am being PC at all in saying I wouldn't be happy being in the situation, college students or no college students not acceptable.

Comment 24 Jul 2014

So that makes it ok? Because everyone else is doing it?

As a recent Alumni I am glad the University took quick action in getting rid of Waters.  I love the band as much as anyone but this type of culture is NOT ok, it never was and it never will be.  Just because programs across the country get away with it doesn't make the practice "ok".  We need to stop making excuses for this behavior.  You can sit and claim it's all in good fun but every student band member deserves to enjoy their time and if a culture is affecting that then it has no place in any institution especially one as highly regarded as ours. 

Comment 13 May 2014

Curious as to who the prominent OSU player was that got the new BMW?  

I live close to Sawmill in the Dublin/Worthington area and as the gf and I pulled into my parking space parked right next to me was a brand new BMW with a prominent OSU player getting out of it (or at least I believe).  I didn't say anything because I didn't want to be that fan but just want to confirm I wasn't seeing things.

Comment 05 Jun 2013

I have to agree, way too much going on.  Don't like it at all.  The minimalist in me cringes lol

Comment 04 Jun 2013

I'm in shock after seeing this, Gee was a fantastic president and I was lucky to have been a student while he was president.  I remember meeting him multiple times and he was always awesome to talk to.  Such an asset, he will be very difficult to replace.

Comment 14 May 2013

Loving these hype videos, I still think my all time favorite though was the 2011 teams video to Buckeye Nation.  I was a year removed from graduating and couldn't remember a time I was more down as a fan after the scandal.  I remember watching the video and thinking that no matter what happened that season it wouldn't be long before we were back on top and really appreciated the fact the team addressed all the fans.  Was psyched for the season. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVyZS4lBQwE

Does anyone else feel like running through a wall after watching these?  I need to open a gym and just throw Ohio State hype videos on the TV's and playing through the audio.  I don't think id ever have trouble powering through a workout!

Football season can't come soon enough!

Comment 10 Feb 2013

Wow, couldn't have asked for better news to wake up to on a Sunday.  Trout has huge potential and he loves tOSU can't wait to see this kid grow.

Comment 05 Feb 2013

Two solid possessions by the buckeyes, good ball movement.  They need more of that, I love  what Scott brings off the bench as well.

Comment 05 Feb 2013

Agree on the uniforms.

I keep waiting for things to click with Amir, he needs to be more physical and aggressive under the rim.  I get so frustrated watching him play...

Comment 05 Feb 2013

Looking at the new logo I see this scenario playing through my head:

Ohio State decides to take open submissions for the new logo from the student body, with all the talent they have surely this is a good idea...  Drunk student decides it would be hilarious to take the old logo and just color in the letters... he submits it.  Whomever makes this decision says "Man this logo really looks great lets go with this".

And that folks is how the new Ohio State athletic logo was chosen.

Comment 02 Feb 2013

I don't understand this either, it's been the case all season.  I have seen this in other players, they get the ball in or near their hands and they just can't secure it for the life of them.