Should be renamed to "Exceeded Expectations" CotY.
Carl Urban's doppleganger!!
Wisconsin losing to Ohio State (1loss) and Michigan this year, beats Michigan in the CG giving them their only loss, avenging the earlier loss. They also played LSU who was a 1 loss team. You still think Washingtons current resume deserves to be ranked ahead of Wisconsin in this scenario? This hypothetical is the point I'm trying to make. I would say a one loss is always more deserving than a two. The wins should hold more value than the L's within reason.
Thanks. I used to contribute significantly a half decade ago. Don't post much anymore.
Same Buckeyes, new year. Still supporting them but I suffer from false hope.
No two-loss team should ever leap over a one-loss team despite head-to-head or conference title.
I don't agree with this. I think it ultimately depends on who you play. Even so, the committee got it right this year. I do think that the Big Ten ought to consider sending the highest ranked team to the conference title game in the event of a 3 way tie like this year.
Apologies for the downvote, if someone can balance that for me I would appreciate it. I meant to reply. I think you are putting too much stock in that one extra loss. I am on board with "who you beat" AFTER the regular season has been played, should hold the greatest value when determining playoff seeding. That makes for a better and more entertaining regular season. In all sports there are teams that through cohesion grow to become the best teams in the sport at the end of any year. It takes some a loss, or a few tough games to figure things out. That one extra loss is not the end all be all when it comes to determining worthiness. I think we should have fallen behind Penn State if we lost to them and we did not have that Oklahoma victory. The teams we beat and the strength of those teams holds more value than that one loss. Lets not forget that how you lose is important too. If missing one or two players causes you to get beat by 40 then I am not sure you are deserving of a shot at a National Championship.
So you value Washington's victories over Stanford and Colorado more than Penn St's over Ohio State and Wisconsin, winning the Big Ten conference? I see the extra loss but I don't agree on the better resume. Washingtons cupcake OOC should be viewed as a second stalling in wrestling.
This so much. This was my top 4 and the fact that they didn't put PSU in there has more to do with geographical pressure than performance on the field. PSU had a bad loss to Mich. They had a tough but not so bad loss (In my opinion) to Pitt. I think their play warranted being number 4 although I don't really believe it due to my eyes. I saw them struggle against Wisconsin. I know the way they got beat in their losses. There marquee victories were head and shoulders above Washington and their OOC games were too.
16? You are entitled to your opinion but that would be the worst move ever. So we give a 4 loss LSU another chance to get lucky during a game and advance in the playoffs? What does that make the regular season worth? I like it how it is. It gives us a playoff and still makes each week feel important. Even 8 teams is too much in my mind. I like 6 but its not fair to make 1-2 have to play one less game. Now we got in playing one less game this year but that is a different set of circumstance dictated by other teams failures.
It's getting to the point that almost all of them can go to a bowl game though. I agree with you about the talent gap, though if we had your way we would never have the joy Toledo, Appy St and La. Laffeyette/Monroe brought us.
Yeah, this! Follow the clues and its easy to see where the weak link is. No hatred, just enjoying my life in Alabama with knowledge that we defecated all over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. I really don't want to get waxed by either Clemson or Alabama and hope Tim is the direct cause of our success over those teams. I'll sing his praises if that is the case.
Kevin or Tim? Obviously Urban would make it happen before anyone got wind of it. Just speculating based off my observations. Also, if this is in ref. to Indiana's previous coach. He stepped down some days ago.
I am sure there is a channel for that. If you need me to help you find it just let me know. If you don't want to take part in this discussion then find your way off the page sir. This is just something I was thinking about. Mods can nuke it if it is in bad taste. Not my intent.
I thought about the post and didn't want it to sound like a detractor from the excitement that we have going for us right now. I am not complaining about Beck or any other member of the coaching staff. I haven't forgotten the areas of growth we need to defeat one or both teams we will be playing in the playoffs. It got me thinking about who the coach could be to help us head in that direction. If this post is considered bad taste then by all means, moderators please moderate.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Deserves more than one upvote from me. The only problem with "Play Somebody" is how do you know who that somebody will be 10 years in advance? We thought VT would be that somebody and it was used against us the last two years.
You are focusing on the wrong opponent. Psu deserves to be in ahead of Washington in my opinion. Just because Bama would beat them doesn't mean they aren't a top 4 team. Tired of everyone crowning Bama already. At least make them play the f ing game.
I really want Penn State in the finals. That would be glorious!
This is my opinion too. Factoring out all of the non-field performance hate I have for PSU, PSU has beat tOSU (Fluke) and Wisconsin. That's Two top ten teams. They did so as they came back to full health. Yes they have a bad loss to Michigan. We had a loss to a worse VT and we made it in. Granted our loss wasn't a beat down. Regardless, they are on a win streak and unbeaten in their last 9ish games. Who has Washington beat? Stanford? Utah? Colorado? None of those are noteworthy except for Stanford, who gets a pass this year and are still elite even though they chose not to play Stanford football all year long. For this reason, I see as Penn State as the superior team over Washington as far as accomplishments regardless of the extra loss. I'm looking beyond the win/loss column. Please debate this with me. I live in Bama and all I hear is that the seeding doesn't matter, just crown "us".
The best team Bama had played is a 4 loss Auburn team. Sure they look talented but lets not inflate their accomplishments. They won the most overrated conference this year. Congrats to them. Now they prepare for the gladiators.
True, but I'd roll that it is a high probability we face them. Can't assume I suppose.
Not a bad idea but I think they should select 4 instead of 2. Power 5 schools can always schedule one less cupcake each year to reduce wear and tear if that is the only argument against the extra games. Also, reduce the lay off at the end of regular season by a week or two. Idk, just bouncing some thoughts around without knowing all of the rules or facts about the NCAA handbook.