I think it's also important to point out, and I'm sure it already has been in these comments, is that both Fournette and Henry have already had a chance to shine in their premier games this season. Henry took advantage, Fournette did not. That is one reason I don't think Fournette will win. It's one thing to rack up a ton of yards against inferior competition, it's another thing to do it against great defenses. Fournette had the chance to have his true "Heisman moment" and missed it. Henry took advantage, no matter how overrated LSU and Miss St may have been. That is the best thing about Zeke's chances. He has 2-3 games against really good defenses to shine. If he is able to put up decent numbers in 2 of the remaining three games (assuming OSU gets to the BIG csg), then I think he'll have a really good chance to win the award. At this point, he has more chances left to do so then either of the other two backs. It's still considered a close race, and Zeke has the most opportunities left to separate himself. Go Bucks!
This team needs a challenge, so I am eager to see how they respond to MSU. As far as the O-Line and Farris go, the pass protection was pretty pathetic at times on Saturday, so it will be interesting to see if Urban and Warinner decide to make a personnel change mid-game if there's a repeat poor performance.
Man this is much needed good news, both because of how the bye week started and because of how decimated the secondary has been. Welcome back, young buck!
I'd like to see less designed QB runs for Cardale. I felt like last year vs Wisconsin and Bama, he was most effective only if he scrambled after he couldn't find an open receiver. This year it feels as if they've called a lot of runs for him and they have been pretty ineffective.
Birm also said this in his article about Williams' commitment "If he doesn't make an official change in his status in the next 48 hours, I think that's a great sign for the Buckeyes moving forward.". That was on October 18th, so looks like Birm was spot on if you consider that a little over 48 hours after his last statement, he reaffirms his commitment to OSU. Still a long way to go and what appears to be a few other visits, including to Alabama.
Another overreaction by members of the media. What's new? Are the Buckeye's struggling? Yes, but read ESPN Austin Ward's recent article where he compares stats from this year's team to last year's team through 5 games. Not much different other than 5 more turnovers and some red zone deficiencies. It took JT a while to get things going as well last season (and we were all complaining about the play calling and Tom Herman at that time). And I'm sure we all recall that up through the Michigan game, everyone was questioning last year's team because they weren't blowing out opponents/getting enough style points. Sound familiar? If it weren't for CJ and Zeke leading the Buckeyes to a 59-0 thumping of Wisconsin in the BIG CSG, we'd be talking about a different outcome last season. Can anyone truthfully say that if JT didn't get hurt last year, the outcome would have been the same vs Wisconsin? The difference this year is that there are still 7 games left to prove to the committee that this team can pull it together and show what all this talent can do. I'm not worried. Watch what CJ and the Bucks do to Maryland this week. And then we'll see what Cowherd and Klatt and every other "expert's" tone will be.
Does anyone have any idea what Policy Damon Webb violated to warrant his suspension? Whatever he did it must be bad and since nobody from the team is talking about it, I am starting to wonder if he'll be back on the team at all? Which would be a big blow, obviously.
I would think they'll start getting Erik Smith some reps at Nickel in practice this week so he'll at least be prepared to play that position in case Conley or Apple go out and Marshon has to step in for one of them.
Yes but the deep pass only works if Zeke is running rampant., which until the 2nd half of the IU game simply hasn't happened yet this season. I was surprised that he didn't try and take a few shots downfield late in the IU game to put it away. I think there are some trust issues with Jones because he hasn't fixed his mechanics yet, but now that it seems the O-Line is beginning to gel again and resemble last year's unit, expect them to try much harder to establish the run game early and then take some shots downfield vs Maryland. Then and only then will we know if this team has a deep threat. Of course, losing Corey Smith will make that much, much more difficult.
1) Buckeyes will get the win
2) Buckeyes will not cover
3) I don't care about the point spread and never bet on my Buckeyes anyways.
It quite frankly surprised me that they didn't try to hit a deep ball or two late vs IU to put the game away. At that point Zeke had clearly gotten going, and to me that is what has been missing from the past 3 games before that and hence why the deep game was ineffective. to me it says that Urban just doesn't trust Jones yet. Remember vs Bama last year in the Sugar bowl, late in the 4th and up by 7, Meyer took a shot downfield to try and put the game away when Jones tried to hit Spencer deep. It almost worked too and who knows, had that been Smith instead the Buckeyes probably win that game by 14 instead of 7. After under throwing a few guys vs Western, however, we didn't really see many deep balls and again, it surprised me especially in the 2nd half after the run game was torching IU's defense. To me that is a red flag. Now, with Corey Smith out (even though he hasn't been targeted much so far this year), Zone 6 is starting to look thin at receivers capable of getting open downfield. It makes me wonder if this will affect Meyer's decision at QB, if at all. I would guess not, because Coach has made his choice and is sticking with it-rightfully so. In the end, the Bucks are winning, and while it may not be pretty all of the time, it is a win and you can't blame all of the mistakes on Cardale. He isn't responsible for all of the turnovers and penalties. These are fixable issues. Whether or not they get fixed remains to be seen, but I have faith in Urban to get it done.
Every time Marshall touches the ball, I get nervous because he's always trying to make one last move, one last effort to get a few extra yards or turn a small gain into a big play. Normally that's not a bad thing and he gets an 'A' for effort, but because of his poor history with ball security, I'm always worried he'll fumble. If you think about it, however, Coach Meyer always preaches effort-aka '4-6 seconds of relentless effort'. It seems he is okay with players making mistakes as long as they are putting in the effort. It's when they jget lazy that he has no tolerance. My question is where do you draw the line when it comes to constantly fumbling during that effort? And when a guy like Marshall is constantly leaving the ball exposed, at what point does that become part of "effort". He's so damn dynamic it is a shame that I have to hold my breath every time he is trying to make a play.
2? I think you're giving him too much credit by saying that.
While I do hope and fully expect the offense to get back to it's semi-old self on Saturday, after what has happened the past two weeks in regards to OSU not covering, I'm surprised to still see people predicting blowouts. I never bet on the Buckeyes, but if I did, I'd be hesitant to pick them to cover just yet. I hope I am wrong.
I don't mind this choice and I am not surprised by it either. I just hope that they stick with Jones for the long haul now, even if he has a few bad series, throws int's or makes some mistakes. Neither guy will ever be able to gain the confidence needed to get into a rhythm if they get yanked after a few series. I think that each of these two guys brings something unique to the offense but I think that Meyer wants the team to pick up where it left off last year, which is throwing the ball deep and running Zeke right up the gut of defensive lines, and he knows that Jones is the guy to do it, but not until the other offensive units get it together. You can't determine if you have a deep threat guy to replace Smith until the O-Line starts blocking up front and the WR's are blocking on the perimeter, because until that happens, Jones won't have enough time to let those deeper routes develop.
I know exactly which play you were referring to, and if you ask me, that showed me Cardale's leadership abilities. You have got to let your receivers know if they made a mistake when it costs you the ability to move the ball. You should note that after he gave it to Marshall about missing the route, he held out his fist for a bump. Nothing at all wrong with the way he handled the situation.
Who care's if they are still no 1. Mentally it may do them some good to drop. Perhaps it will be a wake up call. You'd think these are fixable problems with as many playmakers that are on this team (unless that itself is the problem) but the x factors here are the two new coaches on offense with Warriner calling plays and not full time w/ OLine and Beck coaching QB's. Not impressed with either in their new roles so far but still lots of time to correct.
So far, the last two games have felt like last year's VaTech game on a continuous loop. Defenses show the offense different looks and the Buckeyes unprepared. Yes, they miss Devin Smith as a deep threat and Spencer's blocking, but just go back to last year's game vs VaTech. OLine couldn't block to save lives, and therefore Barrett had no time to throw. The truth is we don't know if OSU has a deep threat because Jones or Barrett haven't really had enough time to let plays develop that much to throw deep. I felt that play calling was atrocious last year vs VaTech, and I feel the same for Hawaii and NIU. During the 3rd, OSU started to move the ball by going tempo and giving it to Zeke. They either ran power, or the counter trey (not sure, but if I have the stomach for it I'll re-watch) but the important thing is that it was successful. Did anyone forget how great the counter trey worked in the playoff run?? Then for some reason, they ditched that plan mid-drive, and OSU had to settle for a FG. Didn't see them go back to it for the rest of the game. If you are willing to re-live that nightmare, think back to that VaTech game and tell me if it wasn't the same feeling. Yes, I get it was a different defense, but the results are the same. Just my opinion and the funny thing is the only time I didn't feel I was caught in that loop was when they played VaTech this year.
Sucks. Could be an issue if this is a long term suspension.
I hope we see major improvement on the offensive line this weekend. Their blocking has been average at best for the first two games in my opinion, especially when it comes time to running the option. Cardale has had no choice but to keep the ball nearly every time because the defense had already swarmed Zeke, Braxton, or whoever else might have been the option guy. Defenses are getting penetration immediately on either side. Part of it was both defenses were dialed in and ready, but I also think there can be improvement. I am hoping this full and normal week of practice is just what the Dr. ordered. Go Bucks!
"I don't know what anyone else's schedule is and I don't care". That's why Urban Meyer's teams win championships.
What kept boggling my mind last year was how they lost to bad teams after beating the Bucks. I said last year that I think OSU put so much into preparing for Navy because of the triple option that Vtech just kind up snuck up, while VTech spent most of their camp prepping for OSU, and that's why they played so well against us and but played bad the game before and after Ohio State (which the lost). This year, however is it a different story. Even if Vtech wasn't the week one opponent, there was no way that OSU will be surprised. Add to it that we'll have an experienced Offensive line, QB's, and RB this time around and I think we'll be ok but it will be a battle at least through the first two quarters. If you think about it, the receiver situation is very similar to last year. Had unproven talent with exception to Devin Smith, and this year we have Michael Thomas. The key is going to be the Offensive line. JT or Jones will have more time to throw, so receivers will have more time to get open.
This made my day!
I am with you on this, Steve. Of course ultimately I know Coach Meyer knows what he is doing when it comes to hiring assistants, but it is hard to overlook how average Nebraska's QB play has been the past several seasons. There could be other factors I am not aware of that contributed to that, obviously, but it is just something that sticks in my mind. I hope I am proven way wrong on this.
Also saved money on his car insurance.
It just goes to show you that all of the team recruiting titles mean nothing until those guy hit the field. All that talent that the Buckeyes have yet so many questions from a "true depth" standpoint. Great read.