DT recruiting is puzzling.... only 2-3 targets in Gary, Jackson and to a lesser extent Lawrence..but OSU seems to be well behind in the recruitment of all 3...not sure what gives to be honest... Position of need, great coaching, Championship program.
The 2017 class at WR looks unreal for Ohio State...They could have 3 very good WRs wrapped up by this summer. Some tough calls will need to be made and id guess Nixon is one of those. Judson/Greene/Grimes then add one of the Ohio WRs ( Davis or Richardson)..thats a hard WR class to top.
I dont think its as much about not being impressed as not really getting those "tier 1" DTs that the staff pinpoints as the top choices...Both the DTs we took last season we snagged later in the year, and were , most likely guys the staff knew they could wait on and still get commitments out of if offered late. I think its more about missing on the DTs that we recruit all year and are the obvious plan A guys. This doesnt mean Hamilton and Landers arent good prospects and cant be future All Americans...but they also werent the main focus of the DT recruiting for most of the year.
Good topic and one I am also curious about. Of what seem to be the 3 main DT targets in this class, it appears OSU trails for all 3. I know it doesnt help that there arent any " elite" DT prospects in Ohio. OSU does appear to be in a good position for Jerron Cage next year, whom is a highly rated DT, but that class is a long way off and will be another ND/OSU battle. Cam Spence in another 2017 DT that is high on Ohio State. Is there any way that the staff only takes 1 DT in this class and hopes to take 3-4 next year? I wouldnt call it worry persay, as it always seems to work out in the end.
He camped at OSU as a DB. Thats where most assume he will play in college.
Jones and Bush Jr they probably land...Gary they have a good shot at but I wouldnt pencil him in yet...and I dont think they get Kelly. UM has always recruited well, that wont suddenly change....on the bright side, Meyer recruits and coaches among the elite...UM has a very nice OL class so far, but ill take a Johnson Sr + a Bosa every time...
I think he is one of those " tough choices" the staff had to make. From what ive heard/read, he just isnt a take at this point, which will most likely push him elsewhere ( Michigan) . Seems like the staff wont take another WR not named Corley or Craig-Myers right now...Small WR class this year, paired with what looks to be a strong WR class in 17, I think gives OSU some room to be picky and wait for their guy and afford the risks that come with that.
Why is Gary not realistic? Dont get me wrong I dont doubt this info, but is it simply because Gary didnt care for OSU or he just prefers a few other programs?
I think if OSU misses on the "bigger" names out there, you will see an Ohio kid ( Jake Saunders perhaps?) get a late offer...
Its a recruiting board, talent is and should be discussed...kids are ranked by multiple sites for everyone too see. I would also assume a player that OSU would/could take wouldnt be void of talent. Plenty of times its been said Player A is priority over player B, etc etc. Yes , I am curious as to opinion on the remaining OTs on the board and what kind of players they might be in the grand scheme of things. You also dont need to say a kid is a major step down to get the point across. Could say, " He's lower on OSU's board" or " A lot would have to happen for him to get taken" or even the " He's more of a project"...
How would you compare the remaining OTs you mentioned above to Eichenberg/Kraemer, talent wise? Is the drop off significant? I know ratings wise a guy like Cupp isnt anywhere close ( but that could be due to various reasons)
No, but given the circumstances ( NC last season, Ohio kids,etc) losing both is a tough pill to swallow. OSU had a GREAT weekend. Meyer and staff pulled in some fantastic prospects, but Id bet even Meyer is focused on the 1 battle he lost, how he can prevent it in the future and whom he can find to replace Liam on the board...
While anything can happen in recruiting, most of the insiders whom know Liam seem to agree that he isnt the type of kid to waffle on a commitment..sounds like one that will honor his verbal. Hopefully he decides on OSU, if not, I would consider this Meyer's biggest recruiting loss really...In State kid, whom had a early offer and one the coaches persued very heavily. ( not to mention all the hardware won) Wanna sign the top class, ya cant let these ones get away.
I think Danny Clark is going to be big in keeping Judson w/ OSU.
Agree on Ferns, hopefully he is in, but if not...It would be nice to land at least 1 legit LB since it'll be a small group (1-2).
All possible, though I think OSU is fighting an uphill battle for Corley,Eichenberg and Mitchell. I think Wohlabaugh might be a realistic option there if ND snags Liam.
1. Which class in your opinion will finish higher nationally, 2016 or 2017
2. QB croot'n, how likely is Wallace for OSU? soon? If not Wallace whom are some prospects w/ legit OSU interest and talent to earn an offer.
3. Over/Under new commitments for OSU this weekend
4. LB- Ferns or bust?
Looks n sounds like there is something too this....hopefully, Meyer and staff can set Walker's mind at ease. Losing a player of his caliber would certainly sting. Going into the Spring Game and coming off the National Title, I was hoping to have a little more positive momentum. Perhaps Birm will give his take in the Hurry Up.
Tom suggested that Kareem wasnt aware that Hill was already in the class, and only found out through twitter. (after he committed)
So the focus moves to Wallace....whats the "inside" intell there...good chance? great chance? are other QB offers going to start going out?
Though its far from an exact science, the TN CBs on 247 for Guarantano have continued, and coming off an OSU visit that seems very telling. fwiw I think this class ends up w/ a plan "c" type QB. One that isnt really on the radar now and isnt really among the top tier of QBs in the nation. 3* project of sorts....Would love to be wrong though and see Wallace commit to OSU.