It was mid 30s, windy as hell, and sleeting the entire game in Happy Valley. MSU 2015 was no fun for sure, but I couldn't feel a single one of my 20 digits after that PSU game.
I'd say 2 losses in cold weather. I don't care if it wasn't played in November, I was at that PSU game this past year and it was miserably cold. Much worse than the MSU game in 2015.
And in June is the equivalent of mentioning that no hitter midway through the 3rd inning
According to this website, Sean Miller made 2.6 million last season. Thad Matta made 3.3 million. If Gene comes knocking with a 4 million dollar offer there is no way Miller isn't at least going to listen, even if it's just to leverage a raise for himself at AZ
It perpetuates the fallacy that Harbaugh inherited a team with no talent - they had top 10 recruiting classes every year
I love to hate on Harbaugh just as much as the next guy, but this isn't entirely true. 2012 and 2013 were top 10 classes, but 2014 and 2015 (the two classes prior to Harbaugh taking over) were 20th and 37th respectively. There was plenty of talent, but not Ohio State/Alabama/Clemson levels of talent waiting for Harbaugh upon his arrival. That 2013 class just graduated, so now we get to see how well he does with 2 mediocre classes (by Michigan standards) and then his own recruits.
Dude, you've called both me and CincyOSU "sock puppets" on more than one occasion. I took zero offense to that, as it's about on par with asking if you're from mars as far as insults go. But watch the hypocrisy before you go crying #MODS in the future
I'm in the start JT camp, but honor and respect for "what he's been through" have nothing to do with why I think he should be QB1
As a degenerate gambler, I'm a strong proponent of putting my money where my mouth is
Leaders lead their team to victory, or at the very least to score.
JT needs 11 wins to become Ohio State's all time wins leader. The offense in 2014 and 2016 (his two years as primary starter) averaged 46.0 and 44.8 ppg respectively. He is within 200 yards of becoming the all time leader in career yards at Ohio State.
Not to mention he is the only 3 time captain in Buckeye history.
2) Domestic Violence
Lol you mean the incident where JT called the police first and neither party was arrested and there was zero sign of injury on either party?
3) His making up names for incoming QB's (incredibly arrogant for such a sub-par passer)
You're grasping at straws man. If you think THAT is the worst thing the freshman go through... whew
4) Throwing the previous assistants under the bus (there was an article a while back on here that had quotes from JT)
Find the article and I might be inclined to believe you. I don't recall ever reading about JT throwing a coach under the bus
There are plenty of things to bash JT for, but leadership is not one of them
JT was tied for 4th nationally in YPA in 2014, the stat kinda speaks for itself
Nah he's thinking of JT Barrett's 9.0 YPA that finished tied for 4th nationally
When it comes to JT, you and I have an eerily similar mindset
Give it up man. JT is going to open the year QB1. I will buy you a personalized Burrow/Haskins jersey and do everything in my power to get it signed for you if either of them is starting against IU for any reason other than injury
Not sure about the silent ones (the downvoters) but most of the rational fans that are pro-JT starting have made multiple posts stating he needs to show he can return to 2014 form or be replaced. Obviously a few are going to be so blindly pro-JT they say he should start regardless. Just like there are some so blindly anti-JT they think he's solely responsible for all 4 losses he has to his name. I think in general though most Buckeye fans feel the same: Start JT but if his performance doesn't return to the JT we all fell in love with, Burrow/Haskins needs to be ready.
Also, and this is just the statistician in me being petty, Jones had less pass attempts in 2014 prior to Barrett going down (17) than Burrow had in 2016 (28). So theoretically Burrow is more prepared than Jones was
Nah, any rational CFB fan would agree with you. But this goes to show how stats can be manipulated to arrive at a conclusion....
If people would actually pay attention to most of the "start JT" crowds arguments, they'd notice every single one of us has said exactly that. He's earned the right to be QB1 come fall in a new (better) scheme, but he needs to perform to maintain that spot
Heisman voters would also argue Lamar Jackson was the best QB last year
The only 2016 Fiesta Bowl my brain acknowledges took place on Jan 1, 2016
In fairness to them, BJ is the only one who has stated he thinks Burrow is going to be QB1 and "doesn't buy" that the coaches are sold on JT
I would hope they'd all be happy, considering it would probably mean OSU is back in the playoffs
So wait... you're insinuating that Day prefers Burrow or Haskins? What could you possible base that on? Hell, Kevin Wilson called JT Barret the best QB in the country when he was at IU. Now I think we can all agree that's a stretch, but it's not a stretch to think the coaches that work with these QBs everyday all think JT should be our starter (when they've publicly stated as much)
Oh boy this thread should be fun
You haven't read many of our posts, have you?
Saying "he's only done well because he has a talent advantage" and "he doesn't perform against good defenses" is saying he is not a good QB without actually saying it,.
And advocating for Burrow to start over Barrett implies you're convinced he's a better QB
So I'm not sure where anybody misquoted you. Just made completely reasonable conclusions from every post you've made on this thread bashing Barrett and praising Burrow/Haskins spring game numbers
If you think there's a chance JT isn't starting week 1, I have some bridges to sell you
And to your point about Cincy and I "jumping in posts that don't flatter JT" if you actually look at the posts we comment on and the points we make, you'd notice the only threads we jump in on are ones that use stats to "prove" Burrow is a better QB than JT. He's had 28 live throws against 3rd string defenses. JT has 2 silver footballs and a 26-4 record. Both Cincy and Myself have stated on multiple occasions that we'd not be against a change at QB if JT struggles early in the season, but posters like you can point to scheme issues in 2015 and 16 and sculpt them into the idea that Barrett is a bad quarterback, despite his accomplishments when given a competent OC and scheme.
At the end of the day we're all Buckeyes though, banter makes the offseason go faster.