I wouldn't call either "constantly hurt." Connor had a great spring last year but was probably redshirting regardless and injured his knee in practice, never heard anything about it being a very serious injury. And all I could find regarding a Hilliard injury was a minor bicep injury this spring. Not exactly enough to call either injury prone, imo
To those saying the slide wasn't dirty, I too have some bridges for sale. Bautista said HIMSELF in the post game interview that the slide was meant to send a message that he didn't appreciate getting hit. He didn't even begin his slide until he was beyond the base and was quite clearly gunning for Odor's leg. If Odor doesn't pick up his leg at the last second, his season is more than likely over. A slide that would have almost certainly injured a player had he not pulled his leg at the last second, while it was located in a place that Bautista should not have been sliding (6 inches behind second base), is 100% dirty.
But there is something wrong with a dirty slide. Bautista crossed the line between hard and dirty, and admitted in his post game interview he went in the way he did to send a message that he didn't appreciate getting plunked.
The slide was very late. Late enough that it absolutely was a dirty slide. Bautista had every intention of taking out Odor's leg. If Odor doesn't kick his leg up last second, his season is probably over. A guy should never have to worry about his leg being taken out when its planted 6 inches behind second base.
Here's the link you're referring to:
And here's a link to a fight Odor started in minors back in 2011:
Guy is definitely no saint, doesn't change the fact that Bautista's slide was dirty though. And Bautista is widely regarded as quite the douche himself. Both parties are at fault here and both should be suspended
Josh is up 162-152 as of my vote #TeamBirm
Fair enough. I definitely agree that it was Bautista instigated the fight. Just don't think fists should be thrown in baseball. I hope Bautista gets an equal suspension to whatever Odor gets, but he probably won't because Odor actually connected
From the new rule, the definition of a clean slide is when the runner:
• (1) begins his slide (i.e., makes contact with the ground) before reaching the base;
• (2) is able and attempts to reach the base with his hand or foot;
• (3) is able and attempts to remain on the base (except home plate) after completion of the slide; and
• (4) slides within reach of the base without changing his pathway for the purpose of initiating contact with a fielder
Bautista violated part 1 and part 3. Slide was dirty and illegal. No way around it. Odor probably shouldn't have come out swinging, but I can't blame him for being pissed
The exact rule states the "runner must attempt to remain on the base after completion of the slide." Bautista didn't even begin his slide until he crossed second base. It was clearly dirty, clearly illegal, and while I don't condone Odor punching him in the face, Bautista got some instant karma for being a general POS
Odor's leg was behind second base. He should never have to worry about a runner making contact with his leg when its back there, especially after the rule change. If he hadn't lifted his leg at the last second, his season is most likely over. The slide was dirty and illegal, and there's simply no way around that
This isn't the first time Odor has been in a fist fight, he was in one back when he was in the minor league's a few years ago. Dude has a knack for throwing punches and baseball isn't the sport for that
Agree to disagree on the plunking I guess. May game or not, I don't think they'd put the tying run on base in the 8th inning on purpose. If they truly were trying to send a message to Bautista about how much they hate him, why not go high and tight? Who knows, it may have been on purpose, but it makes no sense not to do that in any of Bautista's earlier ABs that were far less crucial to the outcome of the game.
Yes, the throw was close. But middle infielders often times drop their arm and throw more sidearm when turning a double play because it's a quicker release. If Bautista doesn't slide literally on top of second base gunning for Odor's legs, that ball goes no where near his head.
Moral of the story here: Joey is a douche. Odor is a douche. I can see why Bautista may take exception to taking one in the ribs, and Odor had every right to be pissed about that slide. Neither should have reacted how they did though.
If you think the Rangers plunked Bautista on purpose to put the tying run on base in the 8th inning, not sure what to tell you. If they were gonna do that it would've happened far earlier in the game
Some commentators saying Odor looked like he was trying to aim for Bautista's head with the throw. Again, no professional baseball player is going to ruin a double play up by 1 in the 8th inning just to throw the ball at a guys head.
Both players are at fault here. Joey Bats absolutely came in with a dirty slide that could've ended Odor's season. Odor had every right to be pissed off. On the other hand, you can't throw a punch at a guy's face like that. Odds are both guys get suspended IMO
Not sure about MSU, but UM already has 3 RB commits in 2017. Granted, 2 of them are 3* so they may get shown the door by Harbaugh down the stretch, but I don't see them offering and taking a 4th RB just to spite Urban
I read somewhere he was charged with illegal possession of a firearm in 2014 as well, which makes it almost certain he did not legally own the gun that he used to murder Will
Hope the bastard gets what he deserves
Fair enough. Didn't DV you, as I know sometimes people have info that others don't. Aside from the 1 game suspension this year though, I've never heard anything negative about Jalin Marshall off the field
Typo that you said OSU has 12 commits (rather than 13) or is there a player "committed" publicly that isn't actually in the class?
Guy who sits next to me at work is a Michigan fan. Both of us had the game on and he went nuts when that shot dropped
Jim Harbaugh telling Urban Meyer his recruiting tactics are a little "out there"
Drake telling another rapper they rap about feelings too much
Snoop Dogg telling me to lay off the ganja
The case of a kid who came in with the absolute wrong mentality and obviously football wasn't first for him
Are you saying this because he chose to enjoy the last semester of his senior year, play his senior season of basketball, spend his last 5 months in high school actually enjoying being a kid for possibly the last time in his life?
If you say a 17 year old who does that has "the wrong mentality" I don't know what to tell you. Nothing I read in that piece made me think Marshall had a bad attitude when he got here
I'd be willing to bet OSU would have the best Vegas odds to end the year number 1 in recruiting and it wouldn't be remotely close
Actually, with a class of 19 including the current 13 commits and adding Riep, Okudah, Grimes, Harries, Lindsay, and Wade, our class composite score would be 304.71.
Bama won last years recruiting championship with a 301.42, and all 6 players I mentioned are seriously considering or already have OSU in the lead. It's not inconceivable that a class of 20 takes the top spot
Because I was curious and I'm terribly bored at the end of the work day, I looked at all the game Kobe did not play in that Russell did. There have been 10 such games. D'Angelo's stats look something like this:
41% from the field
40.5% from three
In other words, nothing drastically different than his normal averages
Sitting arguably the most talented player on your team for long stretches and sometimes even entire 4th quarters is not "humbling his ass." It's downright stupid and a potential confidence killer. IMO, Russell would've been doing this much much sooner if Byron Scott didn't have his head up his ass the entire season. Russell has never been a player who's had his work ethic questioned, as far as I know.