Maybe Loving can just go to corner, face the wall and cry....he is a major wuss. He should be on the bench.
this team never surprises me.
do they really practice FT's? I shoot better than some of these scholarship players. It would be one thing if FTs are the
only weakness ...
hate the way we play and how these players not show up ready to play.
Candidly Tate isn't very good as everyone makes him out to be.
Hustle - A
shot selection - C
FTs - D
mid to long range FGs - C
i am not sure why he gets so much love from Thad ...
Lyle is another bonehead... He is terrible PG and plays highly inconsistent, and is a huge liability on defense. He is more of a street baller than playing organized collegiate level.
NIT at best... Which i can live w. But not sure if this team gets much better next yr...or next... I just don't see anything more than NIT for next 2-3 . Sad
but lets keep Thad more another 10 yrs ....sure... I can just ignore BB and focus all my energy and cheer for FB.
terrible game ... not very comforting
why so many like Tate is beyond me. he should not be a starter on this team. if hustle is primary criteria, i be on this team. liking his hustle is one thing, but dang, the kid sux on defense, shoot selection, too small in many match ups, etc. Loving is soft as any kid i have ever seen. girl like emotion in the floor when he should be the tough leader.
sad team to watch. play scared, chin down, gives in early when chips are down. is KY that bad? how did we win that game?? well, we played with ' nothing to lose ' played hard, didn't give in, chip on our shoulder...
but iguess we can't at least put the effort ??
embarrassing Period. there is losing and there is LOSING.....total embarassment. apathy. is this what OSU has become? bunch of soft girly boys going through the motion feeling sorry for themselves?
i rather watch the women's team - they play harder
losing is one thing.. having youth is one thing..rebuilding is one thing..
but lack of hustle, mentally packing in, embarrassing the university and themselves - totally disappointing...
how many times this has happened this year? less KY game, has happened far too often. Season has matured a bit yet our players play like bunch of girls. (I am looking at you Loving!... grow up wussy).
Sure pre Thad years were bad, but that doesn't mean we ought to keep Matta for another 10 years..... it might be time for a new regime. New culture, new recruits, etc. In corporate or otherwise, sometimes new leadership and direction are needed. That time
they are shooting like that because we don't play hard or much of a defense... yes, some of the credit is due to Maryland or any team that shoots well, but you have to ask why/how they are doing that? in OSU's case against decent teams - CT, Indiana, Maryland, we just give in and pack up mentally... feeling sorry for ourselves.... beating Rutger's of the world don't do anything against good teams.
this is a mediocre team and fans should not expect much.. I don't... but I do expect and want a team that fights hard.. I hate it when I don't see that. Matta is not showing much in recent years either.... he's prob been here too long... we might need new culture and better recruits.... once in a while, you need new blood in coaching too.... 10-12 years is way too long...
hate saying same thing over and over, week after week, but we sux and not sure why fans get all emotional.
bad teams usually do not beat good or in today's case, great team.
although losing by 20-30-40 points (CT, UI and Maryland) is inexcusable. We seem to give in once the gap gets over 10 and just
pack it in. That's poor attitude, poor coaching.
I don't mind having a losing season or mediocre season but we do NOT play hard regardless of the score. That, I cannot accept.
let's be honest shall we:
1. We stink and should not be surprised. Beating bad teams don't make us 'back on track'. We do not have talent on this team
2. KY, year in and year out have freshmen and sophomores excel and play like big boys. We do not have that type of athletes.
3. excuses - we are young - in modern era of college BB is invalid or lacks substance. It's what best schools face each year, and the best programs excel at it. We are NOT an elite program. We are a decent top 50 program in the country at best and trend will continue.
4. Matta has been great for OSU and love him; but like any jobs, sometime it comes time to make a change. It's good for the individual and organization. That time is near. Not saying this year, but it should come soon. We need new energy, direction, approach, recruiting, etc.
5. This group we currently have won't amount to anything. We will see for sure in 2-3 years but I don't see the talent. What we have are decent players who will become pretty good, but we will not be a top 3-4 in BiG and won't be top 25... can we make the dance once out of next 3-4, maybe.... but is that enough at OSU?
We have had many bad years in BB in the last 25 years so I am fine with not being good. I just wish we were more honest of our current program's status... too many here think we can make the dance.. or we will be very good in 1-2 year w/ this group. that's just not going to happen.
Low expectation. I still watch every game and cheer for a win. But when this happens, I remind myself that we are just not talented enough and coached well enough to be what we used to be when we had elite players... For some reason, elite 5 stars do not come to OSU any more....
yea. both steelers and bungles fan base are a bit off the wall. that was the worst game in past 30 yrs i have watched as a supporter for Ohio team. head coach is pathetic in not setting the right tone to his thugs. wins are not everything in life and sports
ups and down? i think we had 10% ups ( vs KY ) and mostly 90% downs....
we do not have cohesion, leadership. bad shots, panicky shots. Lyle can be streaky but overall huge liability - TOs, bad shot selection, etc. Tate is hustle first kind of player but in reality not a very good player. Loving is soft and gets down easily when things go awry. just not a good team.
i have no problem w. bad year or two. but i actually do not see potential w. this group. too early i suppose so i will be grounded but i don't see the potential. my expectation is this group makes ZERO Ncaa tourny.
but i still watch...and cheer....just w. zero expectation. need better recruits.
please~~ quit dreamming
take starters out..... play all reserves...game is done. Matta has been going downhill for years....
tough to watch osu recent yrs.. what happened to us?
worst effort game in my 30 yrs watching.... shameful.... disgraceful Bengals and now effortless Bucks...
need a drink
marvin lewis can never win a PO game and his former assistants will win one in their first try today...Go Vikings and Redskins....
fire Lewis...been saying it for years.... he is mediocre and can't stand he allows thugs to rule the beautiful game....
fire Thad? no...but we stink badly and have become a NIT caliber for years to come. get used to it fans
not sure why anyone is surprised of this BB team. we stink. we beat bad teams and played well in one game against KY.
forget March Madness. we be lucky to go to NIT.
Loving, when chips are down, gives in easily. Lyle is disorganized.
watch BB games at your own risk - health wise. have very low expectations. this group will not have any March Madness experience ...i don't see much future in men's BB. just don't have talent to be elite.
1) live overseas and have for decades but grew up in Ohio and of course, love Buckeyes...
2) even in the 1990's when internet was at its infancy, and there were no streaming videos, or even ESPN to watch games, I used to get up at 1 am (time difference), go to ESPN.COM and just click on box scores/play by play for 3 1/2 hours when OSU played each game. I love OSU.
3) for past 20 years of ups and downs - I have loved 2 players the most. one was Eddie George. and the other is Braxton Miller.
4) I love this man, Braxton. He is an OHIO kid who had everything..then lost 'everything' but didn't give up and gave a chance at a new position for the first time in his football life. I will always remember VA Tech game.. wow.
5) I wish Braxton the best in NFL. It might take time but he has the athleticism, dedication and faith to make good money in NFL. I will pray for him.
what a classy guy.... great representation of OSU... whatever happens, I hope he has success and happiness for his family
- From a fan in Korea
Marshall is a risky bet in NFL... Personally I wish him all the best of course, but I just think he could have used another year or two even.
being self confident is one thing and maybe he got a draft review that has him in middle rounds and he wanted to take the chance, but
I just don't see him being anything more than a practice team player.... although I said the same thing w/ Herron and he turned out better than I ever expected. Herron was tough though... Jalin is a bit softy in my view. fumbles 2 much.
good luck as always for any Buckeye
can he rescind his decision to turn PRO? this one is not a wise decision. not sure who, in the right mind, would advise him to turn
pro and not be drafted or at best, very latter rounds. He could easily stay and show more in college for 1-2 years and get a higher draft &
I don't get this decision at all, other than unjustified ego - perhaps watching other team mates turning pro just got to his head?
Well, we will have a lot of new faces starting for our team next year.... glad JT is back at QB - that should stabilize the youthful team a bit.
grew up as a kid who just missed out the Big Red Machine.... since, 1990 was great and Barry... and had some nice runs into playoffs in recent years w/ Votto and the gang. but last two has been hard to watch.
Frazier was my favorite player.. now he's gone. Can't seem to like Votto w/ his approach - sure he can do whatever he wants and whatever stats he thinks is important but I just can't seem to love this guy...
won't be watching much of Reds anytime soon.
and then there is Pete - favorite player of all time - who has become a bit of a joke in recent years - sad... but still, he's my favorite player of all time - loved the way he played the game. met him in Vegas once - all he cares about money it seems.. but can't blame him. he probably was paid 1/100th of what Harper is going to be paid in the next few years.. maybe 1/1000th... different times then.
22 years w/ that stat nowadays would make Pete the wealthiest player if he played in this era.
Loving is just a decent soft player who can hit shots w/ no pressure... he gets lazy, doesn't play D because he doesn't want to, gets down easily, I can go on and on. he's soft.
Tae is strong, hustler, aggressive.. I take that over Loving, but he is undisciplined, takes bad 3 pointers that he isn't good at, etc.
This team is young but I don't see them getting that much better than a 500 ball club. no way this team, this year, next or next doing anything but a 5th to 7th in Big ten conference.
WE have become Northwestern Men's BB program
they should get us OFF of TV .... UCONN is barely an above average team this year and beating us like we are a high school team.
KY will eat us up and win by 40 points. rather not see that on TV. get us off TV.. so I cannot watch the debacle.
sorry but Matta's time is near end... it's been gradual decline for years now and top recruits just aren't coming to play for Thad...
You mean MSU can have top 5 FB, top 5 MM BB and top 25 WOMEN's BB and we cannot?
Thad is a good coach no doubt... but are we going to settle for 'good' or try to get the BB program to the elite level? are we convinced Thad can do that? sure we were close w/ Oden and Sullinger teams, but we live in the past too much
yes, OSU MM BB is this bad... worst in last 10 years. unlike football, we aren't getting the talent that we need to compete at high level.
we play like Northwestern BB team of the past 20 years...
done watching.. no tournament this year. BIG Q is can this team really get better? Loving is gone I think... Tate is not dependable although hustles. Lyle is a bust (at best, he will have 20 pt game here and there against sub par competition). Like Gidden but he's not going to make a big difference in terms of outcome of games.
sad sad state of BB. I just don't see any future (better than this year sure, but this team isn't going anywhere but NIT at best)
Well, disappointing season for sure given the talent. But losing against above average MSU at home , we got what we deserved. Not going to playoff.
Two losses to msu last three years have kept us from 2 chances to play for title. That is disappointing. Both games coaching and playcalling played major role in losing.
Can't say i look forward to BB. So long off season after our bowl game. Next season is a bit rebuilding with youth so we missed golden opportunity this yr.