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Point taken about blocking and concern about injury. This multi-quarterback alignment could be used in a limited manner at very specific points in the game. And I suspect that Cardale Jones would relish the idea, in a controlled manner, of doing a little blocking :)
Rather than using two quarterbacks at different times, which has, as you stated, its disadvantages, how about using two (or more?) of the quarterbacks at the same time, in certain game situations or, especially, as an element of surprise to opposing defenses? I could especially see Cardale with Miller, J.T. with Miller and Cardale with J.T.. There must be a large number of run-pass options that could be run off these alignments. Have all three combinations, or even more, available to confuse/challenge the defense. If done in conjunction with a fast huddle, at the very least, it may cause a defense to burn a time out, if done at a key point in the game.
It struck me that this post is another example of Michigan State making inroads into Ohio with their recruiting. And it appears that they are increasing their emphasis on Ohio. Their coaching/player connections to Ohio will continue to make them the most formidable opponents in the Big Ten. The challenge is to identify our needs and recruit the best players in Ohio who "fit" with our program regardless of rating, complementing them with high quality, out of state recruits, just as Coach Meyer and his staff are doing.
However, Michigan State is developing a track record of success recruiting in Ohio, even if not always the most sought after Ohio recruits, and, effectively developing some of them into college level talent. This has become a most consequential rivalry, but one that we should continue to dominate, as we recruit higher level talent both in-state and out of state.
@BuckeyeVet, I apologize for the very late response . . . Attended from Fall 1981 until Spring 1983, at the same time.
I was born in Cincinnati, lived for brief periods in Geneva and Granville, and then the family moved to central Michigan when I was in elementary school (1960s). I took my allegiance to the Indians and the Browns (the real Browns) with me. I was, dare I say, a fan of a certain school up north in my less informed days. But Michigan State was always beneath any serious consideration.
When I went to Graduate School at Ohio State in the early 80s, at the time primarily for the unique graduate Welding Engineering program, I "rediscovered" my Ohio roots and, proudly, became a Buckeye. My experience at Ohio State was like coming home. My first game in Ohio Stadium, my first script Ohio, was beyond inspiring. I may be a bit unique here, with my dual state experience and seeing the rivalry from both sides, but I have grudging respect for the rivalry. But make no doubt about it, I am now a Buckeye through and through.
I get what you're saying . . . and think it should not be rudely dismissed.
I too would rather seriously consider a recruit, let's say a 3-star with great promise from Ohio who really wants to play for Ohio State, rather than a 5-star from out of state who doesn't have that "fire in the belly" to play for OSU.
That is one of the challenges of recruiting, balancing the impressions about highly-rated recruits against the potential from a lower rated recruit, especially when the lower rated recruit has a strong desire to play Ohio State and the higher rated recruit doesn't. This distinction should not be lightly dismissed as unimportant.
The offensive line is this year's MVP. The defensive line is a close second. The development in the play of the offensive line from early in the year to the National Championship game has been nothing short of remarkable . . . due to the coaching staff and, most of all, to the dedication and hard work from the young men who make up the best and most consequential unit on this year's national championship team.
Too often we forget, even as we should recognize the "skill"positions and contributions from J.T. Barrett, Cardale Jones, Zeke Elliott, Joey Bosa, Michael Bennett, Devin Smith . . . et al of talented individual players . . . that the game is ultimately won in the trenches and this year's national championship is directly attributable to the continual improvement throughout the year in the play of the offensive line.
Well done Buckeyes, indeed!!!
Credit goes to the entire coaching staff for addressing the challenges of a young, developing football team - unexpectedly without their starting quarterback, not once, but twice - and making the necessary adjustments. Especially, what Coach Warinner has done with the development of the offensive line this year is very impressive. He, and the offensive line, deserve much of the credit, for the improved play of the offense during the year.
Improved game preparation and play calling, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has brought out the talent of this team. Talented athletes, with an effective game plan, who then execute that game plan, are the recipe for domination. We saw that against Wisconsin. When Cardale Jones completed that first TD pass to Devin Smith, demonstrating that he could effectively throw the ball, it forced Wisconsin out of their defensive game plan, from which they never recovered. MVP of the Conference Championship Game in his first start. Wow!
But even more importantly, I believed that limiting Melvin Gordon was the key to the game. The defensive did that, and more . . . 76 yards on 26 carries, a 2.9 yard per carry average, with a long run of 13 yards.
This was a total team effort in excellence, coaches and players. Most impressive and well done. And now, bring on Alabama!!!
I agree with you. We have talented TEs and should utilize them more.
Throwing more to the TEs would open up the field a bit for the WRs, not to mention limiting the opposition defense from concentrating on run defense, which our opponents have had a tendency to do.
Although the offensive numbers this year are quite impressive, a diverse offense is even more difficult to prepare for and to stop. With so much talent on the offensive side of the ball this year, more effort should be made to spread the ball around more. It's a balance . . . for example, Ezekiel Elliott has been so effective running the ball that there is a good case to be made for continuing with what works, while at the same time trying to diversify the offense and make opposition defense preparation and execution more difficult.
One thing is certain, the offense has made tremendous progress over the season. The players and coaches deserve credit for that, especially with respect to the offensive line.
With that, I conclude my own armchair coaching contribution for the day, :)
I agree. Would we like the team to perform at a high level every week? Sure. Would we like no turnovers, even in non-ideal weather conditions? Sure. But they won, on the road, in less than ideal conditions. That IS "all that counts right now."
Look at the scores in the top 25 right now: #1 MSU losing 19-6 at #5 Alabama. #4 TCU in a tussle with Kansas. Washington leading #14 Arizona in Tucson. Northwestern within 1 late at Notre Dame. #19 Clemson gets beaten pretty decisively at Georgia Tech. Virginia Tech beats Duke at Duke. Lots of higher ranked teams being challenged, and beaten, this week.
And, as for Jalin Marshall. Lay off with the extreme and rude comments, from the Twitter Twits. Teammates, talk him through it . . . coaches, coach him through it. The young man has MUCH to offer this team, now and in the future. Learn from it and move on . . . and let's celebrate a big win on the road.
Ross, I agree, and in that sense, across the board, the "fundamentals," especially on the offensive side of the ball, were much better executed in this year's game. In addition to Elliott's blocking, I also remember the excellent block that Curtis Samuel made on the 1st quarter J.T. Barrett 5 yard TD run . . . these are the finer details of execution that make for championship football.
Kudos should go to the offensive coaching staff for an effective game plan, and the players for a well-executed game. There is so much talent on this football team, on both sides of the ball.
Game ball, in my opinion, goes to the offensive line, for a job well done.
One game at a time. Now, on to Minnesota!!!
When comparing last year's championship game against Michigan State with this year's game, this year there was (1) a more effective offensive game plan and (2) the players executed that game plan.
At the core of this year's win, was the play of the offensive line, which made throwing, running and catching much easier. Yes, the "skill" players had an outstanding game, especially J.T. Barrett . . . but the "grunt" players in the trenches, on an offensive line that has been a work in progress this year, helped make it possible. The offensive line deserve much credit for a dominant and decisive win against a quality opponent.
Yes, Yes and Yes!!! Concentrate completely on Minnesota. Forget the polls and forget any thought of post-regular-season play. One game at a time . . . and that game is Minnesota. Nothing else matters right now.
While J.T. Barrett, Ezekiel Elliott and Devin Smith each made significant contributions, the game ball must go to the offensive line, who won the game in the trenches against a very good defensive football team. It's easier to pass, run and catch the ball when the offensive line does its job well and that was certainly the case tonight.
The offensive coaching staff also deserves credit for a well-called game. Congratulations to the team for an excellent effort and a key win. Well done. Now, on to Minnesota.
According to 247Sports, here are the football recruiting rankings since 2011:
2011 - OSU 7th, MSU 32nd
2012 - OSU 5th, MSU 33rd
2013 - OSU 2nd, MSU 37th
2014 - OSU 3rd, MSU 25th
According to the team rankings, we clearly have the better talent rankings. In terms of the talent successfully recruited, we are the better team. If we execute an effective game plan, we should win.
Assuming that these numbers are an accurate reflection of the talent/quality of recruits for each of the two schools (other rankings will be slightly different), what is MSU doing right, and what is OSU doing wrong - in players recruited, player development, and game coaching - for OSU to be an underdog in this weekend's game, given the clear recruiting advantage that OSU has demonstrated over the last 4 years?
I'm willing to assume that MSU is doing something very right with the talent that it has successfully recruited, in large measure attributable to their coaching staff, but where can we improve?
We have the better team, in terms of players successfully recruited. Let's go prove it on Saturday!
I said "yes" because I realized that this team faces many challenges and still has much work to do. But there has been consistent progress, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I expect much from these talented young men as the season continues. On offense, a balance must be found between conservative play calling, when necessary, and taking full advantage of the talent that is on the offensive side of the ball. J.T. Barrett has been put in a challenging position, he is rising to that challenge and, on Saturday night in a very difficult situation, gave a gutsy performance when it counted most.
I expected the crowd/experience of Happy Valley to be an intense one, and it certainly was. As someone commented earlier on another thread, it is good that the team, and Barrett in particular, experienced an intense road challenge before the MSU game. It will help them prepare.
At this stage of the season, I expected that the Penn State game would be a challenging one, most likely not a blow-out. As I expected, Penn State brought, with the support and encouragement of their crowd, their best effort.
Now more than ever . . . one game at a time.
Not yet, but we're definitely moving in that direction.
One game at a time, please . . . coaches and players . . . forget the polls and forget talk of the conference championship game and beyond.
If we concentrate on the immediate task at hand, and continue to develop the talent on this team, it will happen.
One of the things that concerns me is the 8PM start time on the road.
Anyone have any data on Ohio State's record, say over the last 10 years, both home and away, with noon starts, 3:30PM starts and 8PM starts?
It may be a cliche, but in this case it's true: One game at a time. The next game is the most important game.
Keep that in mind and continue to improve - offensively, defensively and on special teams - and this team will become an excellent football team, with the wins to prove it.
This team is a work in progress and we are most definitely making progress. On to Happy Valley!!!
The Michigan State game may be the most obvious situation this year, at least during the regular season, in which J.T. Barrett will be more effective than Braxton Miller would have been. It may prove to be the difference this time.
Take away the three long pass plays, and the defense played pretty well against the pass. While there is still much work to be done on the defensive side of the ball, there's been improvement.
Kiel/Moore may be the best passer/receiver duo that we see all year. Learn from the mistakes and move forward, one game at a time.
One thing is certain; future opponents will test our pass defense. Repeatedly. We'd better be ready.