More of a Biggie Smalls guy myself
Because a competitive football player is going to say his team would lose to a team that just embarrassed his team on a national stage..........fuckin stupid question.
To watch? Oregon. To win? FSU. So I chose FSU.
I don't think we'll get Frost as he is in for a HC job very soon; of the rest I prefer Johnson to be hired due to the connections and what he did with the MSU QB. I just don't know if he is ready for an OC job yet. I think the others have had great results, but I don't want them to come in here expecting to run 40 passing plays in a game, nor do I want to see that. I think Meyer's best offenses almost always have around 250+ running yards and run more/produce more through the option running scheme.
Urban has always run a spread option playbook, he even had major success with it at BG(40+ PPG). I think he had more control of it than Herman, the only years Urban Meyer offenses haven't performed is when he either didn't have much at QB or was in a transition year(to a new school). I'm not worried at all.
As the poster above me put it well, they are an extension of him.
Urban Meyer coached teams have consistently produced top quality offensive play, even when he was getting much lower quality recruiting at smaller programs. Not worried at all.
1. Did I not already say he did not deserve the award? So your comment is pretty much irrelevant towards what I said already based on that.
2. Just to prove my point: Minnesota's last conference title was 1967. Since the span from their last conference title winning coach(to the level of program they have been since). Their only coach with a better record was Glen Mason. 194-251(43%) is their record since then, and they have one regular season where they finished with a better record than 8-4. Kill has been able to put up 8-4 twice with some solid wins, and that is in taking over after one of the worst periods they have had(Brewster 15-30). If he continues at this pace he will easily be their best coach in the modern era. I don't think that is mediocre. A mediocre coach wouldn't be keeping Minnesota in the race for big ten titles. He isn't an amazing coach but he is solid, mediocre implies run of the mill and if you look at their program history with their location(not good for recruiting), he isn't.
3. As I said before, Meyer should have gotten every vote but that doesn't make Kill mediocre.
He has the athleticism and raw talent to go very far, if he continues at this pace it won't be long before he gets a UFC shot(Since WSOF is fine with fighters leaving to go to the UFC). This was a good victory against a fighter who has a lot of length for the division; one that is an aggressive striker with power. His only loss is to a very solid featherweight fighter, with an excellent ground game + decent striking.
At 26 years old he is off to a good start, but he still needs to become a lot more polished before he can challenge the truly elite fighters. In another division it might be easier, but he is at featherweight with monsters like Jose Aldo, Chad Mendes, Frankie Edgar, Patricio Freire, etc.........It is a long road to the top 10.
He "weighs" 145 pounds on the scale before fight night, but they dehydrate themselves and use other techniques, most fighters are really 8-20 pounds heavier than their listed weight.
I wouldn't call the way Kill has reformed what was a dumpster fire of a program; without a ton of recruiting talent, mediocre. He didn't deserve the award though.
If he was going to transfer it wouldn't be to Arkansas, it would be to Oregon.
That is what I was have been thinking about recently, it would be a hilariously confused position to sort out, and no matter the decision there would be people on here pissed.
This class is one that in my opinion is much better than its star ranking. Mitchell probably would have been a top 20-10 player had he been healthy and not committed early, you can tell by his offers(Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, UNC, etc.). His athleticism is close to elite and his vision certainly is so, he could function as a point forward for OSU. Grandstaff will be a capable spot up shooter right away, and he is also a solid passer. He'll be a good offensive player immediately with the ability to develop in to a great shooter/scorer. Aj Harris is ultra quick and a good distributor. Giddens is a great athlete with the potential to be a dominate defensive player. Depending on who stays, next year could be a top 5 team.
Championship over money? Assuming we don't get there this year, which realistically I don't think will happen, though if they develop well they could make a deep run.
You're right, he was originally a five star player in basketball and 4 star in football I think. He probably would have ended up as a top 20/10 player in the rankings if he had not committed early and been injured for a season. You know that from his offers, the top dogs like Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, and North Carolina were after him. Excellent athleticism and floor vision, he could be a great point forward.
He always plays man primarily, before this season a switch to zone usually meant a young team not ready to play full on man yet.
When the last two years were considered a disappointment, and you go to the E8 and make the tournament both seasons, it says something about the quality of the program. They were in really dire need last season; I think even more so than the season before, of someone who could create their own offense and movement/shooting. I think they really needed a good freshman class and I think this class will deliver well, and this team will look a lot different with multiple people capable of shooting and creating offense, as well as more athleticism.
shit completely forgot Oregon is open at QB next season....they probably would go after him hard if he thinks about transferring.
I don't have any statistics on Cardale's his read options so I can't really say, but I already said JT BARRETT IS MUCH BETTER AT MAKING DECISIONS. You aren't even arguing a point there, I never claimed him to be better there. I said he was a better runner, and he is, if you look at how many yards he gets per carry and his athleticism/power. That doesn't mean he has better footwork in the pocket or better decision making in the read option than Barrett.
That is why I said JT is MUCH more polished. I may be mistaken but I don't think Cardale was playing against the second teamers in the third quarter against ILL, a quarter where the offense didn't slow down at all with him at the helm. Sure the offense would be limited in certain ways, but my point was that from what I see, if Cardale was given an opportunity to start and develop, he would possess abilities that JT doesn't have. That doesn't make him better, it just means I think Cardale could do great things as a runner and on deep balls that JT couldn't. Now obviously JT would have a much larger playbook, I just thought what you said indicated that JT is better across the board, which I don't agree with. I don't think he is better than JT I just think he could be a good starter if given a chance, which is why I think it is possible he could transfer.
I never said I wouldn't to keep him and have him change positions with the level of athleticism he has. I think he could have the potential to be a nice TE, I actually suggested that when I was watching him play during the game. I just think that if he wants to be a QB only, he could successfully be a quality starter if he transferred. Maybe you agree, but some of what you said made me think you didn't/
Maybe Meyer was pushing Barrett, but I don't think he would be playing Cardale with the second team for so long if he really felt JT was better already, nor would he in my opinion push competition for only one player(unless the result is a forgone conclusion, which I don't see as true in this case) . Competition is always encouraged because it typically helps both players improve.
You do realize that he has played in garbage time where they don't typically call passes, and he didn't even get intercepted right? It was an incomplete pass that the corner thought was a fumble. He threw 5 passes complete with ILL def starters out, averaged over 16 yards per completion(with 2nd stringers in at the o-line positions), and threw 2 touchdowns including a beautiful pass to Dontre Wilson. He is also definitely a better rusher than JT, more power and aggressiveness, he would probably get close to 1000 or maybe even over as runner if he started.
Now obviously JT should start because he is more polished; he is a much better passer(although I think Cardale has a decent edge in arm strength), and a much better decision maker I'm sure. However you have to remember that it was a close race over the summer, Cardale led for the majority of the offseason. He isn't nearly as much of a drop off from JT as you think, nor is he only a limitation, sure he can't do certain options on the playbook, but his running and arm would takeaway certain limits JT has. I just think you should let him play a little more real game action before declaring he might not even be as good as Collier. I have a feeling he is going to transfer as a JR or SR(earl graduate rule) if he doesn't feel he will get a chance at QB, though I'd love to keep him at any position.
Yeah it fixed a problem for them that was resulting in a lot of failed prospects(jumping over from HS), while also getting them out quick enough that they have a continuous stream of talent.
"Torrance Gibson committed to a team with Braxton Miller, J.T. Barrett, Cardale Jones, Stephen Collier, and a fellow recruit with a 42:1 touchdown:interception ratio... but I guess the idea of competing with Brad Kaaya was too much."
Hilarious and true, Brad Kaaya has been solid after a slow start but to act like he is some force of intimidation against TG is desperate.
No way everyone stays, too much talent, not enough spots. I can't be absolutely sure about the others coming in later, but I know Barrett has star potential, and Cardale isn't much of a drop off from him(definitely think he could start on another team). And just by talent both TG(would be great as a runner right away) and Burrows(good decision maker and thrower) both look like they'll be somewhere from starter quality talent to star quality talent at QB.
Well if I am Dontre's mother than BTalbert is Marshall's mother. I'm just getting tired of people trashing on Dontre and saying Marshall is the better player when it hasn't come true yet, and especially tired of people like Talbert who thinks he saw the future, hindsight bias is stupid especially when the result hasn't even come true yet. I want both of them to play a good amount, I even said that in the post. What you confuse as only liking Dontre is really just how I make my points in arguments(aggressively), especially when I am tired of hearing what I am arguing against.
I like Marshall, and he has some advantages like a bit more strength and better special teams ability(well, at least on punt returns). I just think the split should be 50/50 or better in Dontre's favor, and I think most of what we have seen backs it up.
The should put him in a wildcat/Tebow type of package. I realized they tried something similar ONCE, but with more blockers in front of him including a player serving as a FB to left or right in front(similar to what K-State runs on QB draws), I think he could effectively serve as a short yardage runner with his size, strength, and athleticism.