If Urban is going to call the plays.....does Beck even need to show up ? I guess he could get water bottles for the guys that are actually working. That's an expensive water boy.
Yes it was raining Saturday but it wasn't raining fire. MSU played in the same weather. We just didn't look comfortable out there. Team looked like we weren't prepared for a serious match up.
O line sucked. Block somebody or sit your big ass down and let someone else do the job.
Play calling sucked. For 525,000.00 you should get the concept....That's not working - we should try something else.
JT ran the ball 857 times in the 2nd 1/2. Well it seemed that way.....There's a pattern here....some plays JT loses 4 yards, other plays he gains 1 yard. Let's keep doing this because it isn't helping things at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Defense couldn't stop MSU on the run. We knew they weren't passing the ball but we still couldn't stop them.
MSU were ranked about 85th nationally against the pass. Good thing we didn't pass the damned ball ?!?!?
A lot of disappointed fans in Ohio today........ DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES BECAUSE THIS (FAILURE, WEAKNESS, INABILITY) is what (SARCASM) we all want. This week it's coordinators we're calling out. Make no changes and deliver a loss to Hairball next Saturday and the temp will go way up. Excuse me, I believe something stinks.
Make the news again....We have found the problem and we cut it out. Time to move forward.
It happened. It should have been fixed before last Saturday but it wasn't. Keep things as they are and keep answering the question: Did you step in dog shit ? Because something stinks.
Get rid of Mr. Beck and Mr. Warn.... (The O line guy)...... Things are bad and you might as well address it because America is talking about it non-stop. I don't care if we have no OC this Saturday because we had no OC last Saturday. It can't get worse that that poor excuse. Mr. Meyer, check the bottom of your shoes.
What a great deal we had with Tom Herman. Imagine what we could have accomplished with even a half decent Offensive Coordinator. Tom Herman made 1.6M this year. Houston has offered a raise...... I think we should offer him 2.5M per year.
B Y O G, Bring your own guts....... If the truth hurts.......... Change the facts that led to the statement.
IMO, EZE is 1000% correct. He dared to say what was obvious
MSU was not and is not a great football team. We were just far worse. We're just not up to the challenge.
Choking on a cupcake
It takes guts to say the truth sometimes. Sadly too damned many homer fans will gladly stick their freaking heads back into the sand and hopes it just goes away.
You, Braxton, and 8 - 9 others should have been shown more respect in your final game in the shoe. You all earned and deserved better. The current administration is having trouble with honesty at the moment. It's never easy to fire someone but 99.99999% of the time, he or she who is fired........deserve what they get. A lame ass approach would be to deflect attention until you're actually ready to deal with it.
Never question the value of saying the truth.
UFM stepping forward to take the bullet for Tim Beck. If you're "Really" calling any plays.....you've been terrible all year. Terrible is all you get for 525,000.00 a year. Any homeless person (even a drunk one who hasn't eaten) could/would call better plays. Remove the cancer before it spreads.
Receivers dropping the ball was very bad. That's right........they weren't catching the ball in that multi million dollar in door practice facility. That's why they should have practiced in the rain !!!!!!!!!!!!! So it will seem like you've seen rain before.
Bigmarty, Take your head out of your ass. EZE is not nearly responsible for this loss in any way. Wanna know who is ? Urban Meyer. If you Captain the ship you are responsible if hit hits an Iceberg. In my opinion Tim Beck should be polishing his resume. He looked very bad this last Saturday. His play calling and lack of player development has looked bad all year. I'd fire Luke Fickell and Tim Beck. I'd put Ed Warinner and Chris Ash on notice. Below is from a Sept. 11W article. You decide where money is being wasted
URBAN MEYER HC $5,800,000
LUKE FICKELL CO-DC/LB $600,000
ED WARINNER OC/OL $600,000
CHRIS ASH CO-DC/S $590,000
TIM BECK CO-OC/QB $525,000
TONY ALFORD AHC/RB $400,000
LARRY JOHNSON AHC/DL $400,000
KERRY COOMBS CB/ST $300,000
TIM HINTON TE/FB $286,004
ZACH SMITH WR $170,035
I would like the 4.5 million dollar explanation. ___________________________ was the problem, and ___________________________ is how we're going to fix it. Accountability. People screw up sometimes. People aren't up to the job sometimes. Acknowledge that the problem is recognized and advise how we shouldn't expect a shitty game from now on. I think at least 1 and perhaps 3 or 4 persons should be called out for not earning their pay.
We have a fabulous CEO but bad upper management. A good CEO wouldn't let dead wood bring down the ship.
Sad Sad Sad. A punch in the gut. Many people worked very hard....... Good people are disappointed. Mister Meyer, who gets credit for this mess ????? The team was entirely ineffective....., play calling was very bad, you ran out of cup cakes....offensively we were ineffective. Defense could not stop the opponent..... somebody should be fired today. Coordinators seemed to have no idea or no ideas on how to be better. I think Mr. Beck and Mr. Fickle should be called out......Worth the dollars being spent ? NO..... Today we didn't get 4.5 million dollars worth of coaching.... maybe 2.0 worth. What changes were made a 1/2 time....? Let's have a plan...
Wow, I would have liked to hear the audio of the above two segments. Perhaps You tube or espn's web site will have a better version.
I am so damned hopeful that we play GREAT the rest of this year and into January. I would love to win and would love to do so in a strong manner such as 42 - 14. The most important thing is to get to the playoffs, beat Alabama on the way to winning it all. I am so sick of the mindset this country has on over estimating the entire sec conf.. Only showing that they are very beatable will that start to change.
Back when we had an OC (on the way to a championship).....it would have been conceivable that Braxton Miller could get 10 receptions in a game. A great way for this young man to enjoy his last game in the shoe.
Instead we'll continue stumbling, bumbling as we have the previous 10 weeks......... Luckily we've had far more raw talent and a superior head coach. Difference now is we're starting to play teams with small numbers in front of their team names. Too late in the year for second chances. Mr. Meyer, would you mind calling plays this Saturday ? We've been busy playing down to the competition. Probably because (as some morons have said) we have been hiding our good plays until it matters. I believe we have the talent to beat MSU and probably UM. When it's Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma (or State) it will be much tougher to just show up without an excellent attack plan.
They should have kept practice outside. Saturday weather is a high temp of 45 and a 50% chance of rain.
OSU BB, Keep your expectations low. We'll get there. That's if there is ranked 18 or 20. Better than that is reserved for colleges that play both FB and BB. Remember our last good run ? After their freshman years they left. They took our hopes with them.
4 of our first 14 games are against decent/good teams. That equals 10 cupcakes and 4 opponents. Who dropped the ball here ? We were supposed to have 14 cupcakes. If we're going to play in March we'll need 20+ wins. I'm not sure how many league games we are expected to win....
We have it very good, that is for sure. Without doubt we're blessed with a great university, great talent, and a great head coach. That being acknowledged.....There is much room to improve and reasons for expecting much more !
First person who should be punished is whomever is responsible for our weak ass schedule. We know these are done way in advance but since the new emphasis during the play off era considers strength of schedule as a very important factor, it screws us that we appear so damned weak.
Next is our offense co-ordinators. They may have fabulous potential but what they are producing is because of great talent not because of great coaching. We're being constantly reminded of just how good we had it with Tom Herman. Preparing QB's has not been done well. Play calling has not been done well. I think Mr.Meyer should sit these guys down and do a week 11 job performance meeting. Then a clearer picture on how we're going to improve should be seen. Develop QB's and depth at other positions. Call a better game including call to surprise and keep opponents of balance. Make great adjustments and half time.
We should be respected and feared. We should be a dream destination for recruits. We should play and beat ranked teams throughout each year. We should get the benefit of the doubt - always. I sometimes complain here about the buckeyes but it's because I see a team that should tower above all other teams every year. I agree we are good. We can and should be GREAT.
People here should e mail BTN and say this dumb ass shouldn't be paid for his stupid opinions.
Back to Buckeye football.......
Not much time left in the 1/2. We look very bad. I think we're trying to force the play off committee to eliminate us from the top 4. Coach, if the team under performs.........that reflects badly on you. I don't care who is responsible......it's on you since your paycheck is the largest. Figure it out, make some good adjustments, whatever it takes. This game (like all of our previous cupcake games) should be one where we're up by 30 or 40 points and we look superior. When you earn a lot, people expect a lot. You're not performing like a multi million dollar employee.
1/2 time score should be 42 - 3.
This certainly helps us to keep everything in perspective. I'll say a prayer hoping the best for this little guy.
Perhaps the best story I've read in a long time. Thank you.
400+ comments....WOW. I follow recruiting heavily and I think it's the life blood of a good program. I was happy that we had Walker but it doesn't bother me that he decomitted. He was on Tom Lemmings show Friday late afternoon saying how he was 100% with OSU....LOSER. I saw him play on espn and he didn't look like the top RB in the country. It's his 5 minutes of fame so go see Alabama. Don't let it bother you that 80% of Alabama would rather that you didn't break bread in the local diner. Between the dorm, the stadium, and the practice facility you should be treated ok.
I hope we can aim for and get another strong defensive lineman and a good/great DB. Those elements don't get the highlights but defense wins championships.
what world did OSU not look that good with Braxton under C...
That would be the B1G championship game followed by a sorry loss to Clemson. Say what you will but if he stayed at QB he might have had a shot in Canada / CFL.
I hope he becomes the best H back in history but we don't need him throwing the football. He rarely threw the football because that involved other people.
If Braxton wasn't injured......there's no way he'd be our QB. He's a H back. He played H back from the QB position for a long time and we didn't look that good. If he's the back up he'll either run it constantly or have to pass. Hopefully he would notice Zeke is a fabulous asset capable of bringing us success.
What's wrong with Collier ?
The money that JT will lose (scholarship) and a buck fifty will get you a coffee at McDonalds. This is like your 3 year old playing in the street and you giving him 5 minutes in time out.
JT is a great kid. Everybody knows that. Hopefully this too will pass and we could move on. I would take away being a Captain and I wouldn't let him start before MSU or maybe Michigan. If Cardale plays great (and I hope he does) I would let him play a lot.