UM AD would had to have called them twice before for this to be possible, and according to many sources he did not...sooooooo....yeah...
UM v. neuter lame is on NBC since it is in south bend.
Marcelys and Thompson never received offers from UM...
These are all the Scholarship players offered by both schools since Urban Meyer has been at Ohio State...
Hoke over Urban
Kyle Kalis, Joe Bolden, Ondre Pipkins, Chris Wormley, James Ross, Tom Strobel, Derrick Green, David Dawson, Dymonte Thomas, Patrick Kugler, Logan Tulley-Tillman, Mike McCray, Chris Fox, Kyle Bosch, Henry Poggi, Ben Gedeon, Deveon Smith, Wyatt Shallman, Maurice Hurst Jr., Jabrill Peppers, Drake Harris, Lawrence Marshall, Michael Ferns, Mason Cole, Ian Bunting, Chase Winovich, Shaun Crawford(2015), Garrett Taylor(2015)
28 H2H Wins
Urban over Hoke
Noah Spence, Adolphus Washington, Se'Von Pittmann, Tommy Schutt, Brionte Dunn, Cameron Williams, De'Van Bogard, Armani Reeves, Eli Apple, Gaereon Conley, Joey Bosa, Cam Burrows, Michael Hill, Billy Price, Marshon Lattimore, Damon Webb, JaMarco Jones, Dante Booker, Demetrious Knox, Eric Smith, Kyle Berger, San Hubbard, (No 2015 for OSU vs. UM yet)
22 H2H Wins
I would say Hoke is holding his own on the recruiting trail against a rival head coach with multiple national championships, multiple conference championships, multiple BCS wins, and multiple NFL draft picks.
Am I saying that Urban is not one of the best recruiters in college football, no way...that would be idiocy. However, people who say "Hoke can't recruit with Urban," that is just not true.
Have fun eternally competing in a sub par conference then, with a terrible SOS.
I want OSU and MSU to pull the best talent they can get year in and year out. This conference needs it, along with better coaching. These are the only things that will bring us back to being a national player as a conference again.
Actually I am in the camp of Hoke needing to go, but it is not for his recruiting "problems." If he turns it around after this year I will eat my words, but he was a stopgap hire when he got here and he is still that to this day. I like Brady, and I think he is a genuinely good person, but he is not the right man for the University. I hope they find a new coach at seasons end when they finish what I project to be a 7-6 season.
Nick Saban will get whoever Nick Saban wants 90% of the time. I was one of the few UM fans who said after he postponed his announcement that he was going to Bama. Not too surprising.
I would just like to point out that too this date a coach who barely has a .500 record, with no BCS conference championships, or national championships is keeping up with your coach that has double the NC and how many SEC titles and BCS bowl victories?
That is not a fluke, Hoke can recruit with the best of them. Saying anything otherwise is ignorance.
That argument actually does not work out very well in this scenario. Very few UM grads living in Detroit comparably speaking, for obvious reasons haha.
Maybe that is the case, nothing to be ashamed of. It is just a practice. don't understand why someone would want to pay 5$ to go watch a bunch of bench warmers for the most part practice.
If it was a scrimmage against another school, you can bet TBH would be filled up just like a normal game day. No doubt in my mind.
I dont think you can say whether or not I would lose the bet unless you took a census of the population at the OSU spring game reffering to distance drove. I don't know what a meatchicken is, but I live in Westerville, Ohio and have lived in AA and I can say without a doubt that the obsession here is palpable on a day in day out basis...it is all anyone thinks about, probably due mostly to lack of other professional franchises in the city. Not saying that is a bad thing, it is just different than it is in AA and Michigan as a whole. You could place braxton miller on a toilet in the middle of the shoe and draw a crowd of 25,000 to watch him drop a deuce. Not saying a bad thing, it would just never work that way in Michigan.
The important statistic when it comes to fan turn out is during the ACTUAL season, and both of our schools are tops in the nation at fan attendance per season. I don't get why this, "Our school drew more fans to a practice than yours did" debate is so hot. Genuinely not trying to ruffle feathers, just trying to understand where the continuation of this lambasted argument comes from.
Understandable, and that's awesome that you are so dedicated. Just stating I would wager a majority of the fans at the OSU spring game were from the central Ohio area, >80% I would bet.
I'm not so sure about that. He competed in the best conference in the nation with a lot less talent...PSU will be above .500 as long as he is there I think. He is a great coach.
He pulled in the top prospect of any school in the B1G, number 2 player in the nation ,coming off a horrible year...yeah he is pretty bad...lulz
I am a UM fan and I honestly don't know what all the hype is about spring football, I would never waste my time going to a professional or collegiate spring practice, let alone spend money to go. I mean the write up says it all, this OSU team will be nothing like it was today when the Buckeyes travel to visit Maryland. I think the biggest difference between the two schools in correlation with spring football practice attendance is the UM fan base comes from all corners of the state as AA is a much smaller community, OSU could easily fill the shoe with OSU fans residing in Columbus. Not to many people are going to drive 1-2+ hours to watch glorified practice, especially on the first nice day after one of the harshest winters in Michigan history.
Butt is actually expected to return my the time B1G play starts, or soon after that.
Yes non-educated football doucher that played at a high division level in high school, in college, and coaches as well, but you're right...I know nothing.
Truth is I have forgotten more about football than you will probably ever know. Sorry bud.
"His fucking fake foot injury happened in the first half."
Then you go on to say...
"but the heat coming and his lack of mobility freaked him out"
And no...I said he WASN'T going to run, hence the bad play call. Are you illiterate, or completely functionally retarded? Either way, truly sorry.
Can't argue with stupid, so I'm not going to try. Thanks though, "Senior."
Here is what I think of Brady,
He was, is, and will be a stop gap for a football program that was losing support from an ancient alumni donation base stuck in the Bo era. dave brand'in knew he had to get someone in the program with ties to the old program, hence harbaugh, miles, hoke in the coaching search. Hoke said all the right things in the presser, wins sugar bowl, money comes flowing back. Trust me, grandparents are huge donors, have been for years.
Mattison is the only thing keeping this beat up ship afloat at the moment. The offensive line will be worse this year, and will spell doom for hoke. God only knows how a coach that preaches old school smash mouth football has one of the worst OL in the last country the past 3 years. It is truly mind numbing.
MSC is retiring, pizza boy has his sights set on running for governor, and hoke has dug his grave and this year will lay in it. New president hires new AD, and new AD hires new coach.
UM goes 5-7 behind the worst OL the program has ever seen, and lose by 20+ points to OSU, MSU, and PSU. But of course, beat ND.
I will be rooting as hard as I can for the kids to succeed on the field, but in the end I truly hope we lose every game to get this phony out of Schembechler Hall for good.
Yeah...that is exactly wrong...the play called was a read pass option play, the left side of the field was completely open and if Devin could have run he would have easily scored a touchdown, but when you play half the game with a destroyed ankle that is not an option at all. One thing lost that game, and it was Al Borges' and Brady Hoke's complete fucking incompetence to call a correct play at a critical juncture, let alone change the play when a time out was called. Hence I am elated this is the Jokes last year in AA so we can finally get rid of pizza boy when he makes his run for governor, MSC retires, and we can hire a competent HC unlike the stop gap hoke has been form the very beginning...