I'm sorry to hear it. Get well soon, Man.
I don't disagree with anything that has been said on this thread...from either side.
I want it to be Nebraska because I could tolerate sharing Indianapolis with their fans better. In my experience Wisconsin fans are less likable overall.
Naturally, I picked Wisconsin to win the West.
Primarily, the atmosphere of 3:30 and 8:00 kickoffs is superior to that of the noon kickoffs. At noon, it almost appears as if the fans are asleep in their seats. We were historically loud for USC in 2009 and Nebraska in 2012 (both night games). The anticipation for the game builds all day on Saturday and by 8:00, the fans are more than ready to support the team. Watching noon games on television often feels underwhelming because the crowd just is not as enthusiastic as they are in the late afternoons and evenings.
All of our favorite instant classic games recently started at 3:30 or 8:00. The noon starts always blend together, but I clearly remember 2009 against the USC, 2009 against Iowa in overtime, 2010's 2nd half comeback win against Pennsylvania State, 2011's last minute win against Wisconsin, 2012's offensive explosion against Nebraska, and the decimation of Penn State in 2013. The best game against Michigan in recent memory also happened to be the only one that did not kickoff at noon.
While you may argue that these moments are special because they are rare, I believe we could produce even more special moments with more opportunities to create them by playing games later in the day.
As for another argument against playing later games, are we really going to follow the argument that it is too cold in November to have night games? The NFL does it into January and no one complains that it is too cold. High Schools have night games well into November for playoff games and you never hear a complaint from the fans about the cold. Those things make Midwest football what it is, Green bay, Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, the cold, the drama, the buildup.
While fan safety should always be a priority, I believe the city of Columbus and the fine police officers patrolling the streets do a marvelous job of keeping fans safe and comfortable during later kickoffs.
Urban Meyer himself addressed the issue of recruiting, and I feel it cannot be stressed enough. Night or late afternoon games are the best (and sometimes the only) times for four or five star recruits to visit the campus. Meyer made a great point that many recruits are traveling with their own money and played a high school game the previous Friday. It presents a problem of expanding the Ohio State brand to a national audience if a significant portion of that audience is unable to even watch your team play. Give Ohio State the chance to recruit these players and bring them for visits. Show them the best product we can put on the field by giving them access to a night game in the Horseshoe.
For the fans attending the game, the tailgating experience is infinitely better for later games. It simply feels strange to grill hot dogs, hamburgers, bratwursts, ribs, and other tailgating foods beginning at 8 am. Such foods are much more comfortable on the palate at noon or afterward. The local establishments are able to serve to a larger crowd for longer, and therefore increase their revenue as well.
The athletic department has even essentially admitted that night games are more valuable, as evidenced by the ticket price increases for evening games against prime match ups. Our fans will continue to support the Ohio State football team, and I expect fans will gladly pay the increased price to see the team play in the finest stadium in the country in the greatest atmosphere. Essentially, we have a huge alumni and fan base spending astronomical amounts of money and we would love to see the athletic department fight on our behalf to schedule later kickoffs.
The TV networks will always have a significant amount of power in dictating who plays when, but Ohio State is the premier brand in the Midwest and I feel that the Big Ten Network and ESPN would rather Ohio State play more games at later start times to increase viewership. Last year Ohio State played Michigan at noon in what turned out to be a classic while a bad Northwestern team played a worse Illinois team at 3:30. I understand the competition for time slots, but I believe Ohio State-Michigan is a premier draw and will draw increased attention at any later time slot, regardless of whether Alabama is playing at the same time. If we have some degree of influence in this situation, then we must use it to maximize our fan experience and competitive advantage. Prime-time match ups increase television exposure and increased exposure is good for Ohio State.
With that being said, I'm a fan of tradition as well. I understand doing things as they have been done for the sake of pageantry. Honoring traditions is something that sets Ohio State apart from some of the newer powers. Wayne Woodrow Hayes would be rolling over in his grave at the thought of playing Michigan at any time other than noon. I apologize for that. But I'm not arguing that we should abandon the old traditions for any of the reasons I listed above, I merely feel that we can build upon the traditions and add to them as times change and the national audience evolves.
- 3:30 pm
- 8:00 pm
- 12:00 pm
I love tradition in most cases, but I also can't help myself, I love night games even more. I just hate waiting all day for the game to start. I feel that 3:30 would be an adequate compromise in this case. Recruits tend to prefer later starts as well.
I've got a party of 8 going as well, purchased the tickets back in August. Staying at a hotel about 6 miles away, right off the highway. Shouldn't be too bad.
I'm sure it'll be a very pro-Buckeye crowd. The B1G West is still in flux at this point, so OSU fans are probably scooping up everything available right now.
I can't wait to participate in the invasion of Indianapolis with tens of thousands of like minded fans.
Were there any dedicated OSU bars or restaurants last year? Places to see during the day of the game?
I bought 8 tickets in early August from Ticketmaster. They're all over most of the usual resale sites as well as fans of teams who aren't going to make it attempt to dump off their tickets. You shouldn't have too much trouble.
I actually don't disagree with a lot of what you said; however, calling out the staff and asking for down votes diminishes some of the quality of the overall content of your argument.
Not a Jameis fan at all, but it looked like someone tried to throw a punch and the bench tried to pull a UM and surround him.
Understandable. Best of luck to the kid in the future and I wish him all the best.
The thing about a lot of my science (and math) courses was that the best written books were often some of the older texts. I bought some books that had been written before I was born (1989), as a companion to the books we used in class for like $10-15.
A lot of Dover books were cheaply made and had very little style, but had good substance and provided me with better understanding of the material than the newer texts.
I know online reviews are an inexact science, but some of my textbooks averaged about 2 stars on amazon, whereas most of the Dover texts averaged above 4 stars. Some of that was probably due to low expectations due to the low price, but still, it was a bargain for my purposes and helped me greatly as a poor college student.
Agreed. They're just trying to get everyone in as quickly as possible. My buddy used a red Discover card as an ID just in case, they didn't even spare it a glance.
Another option is to just get one student ID, then pass it back through the gates to your friends (there won't be anyone paying enough attention to care).
I don't mean to sound like any of the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists, but has anyone noticed ESPN's ticker?
(6) Auburn faces 7 ranked teams, most of any team in poll. (5) Ohio State faces one ranked team, fewest of any team in poll.
Couldn't agree more with everything that has been said.
As others have mentioned, I'm okay with paying a premium amount to see Ohio State play a marquee match up at night. I expect to do so.
I don't want to shell out an arm and a leg for a glorified practice. I've been deprived of Ohio State football for months, but for that price, I'll watch it at home.
I would love to see 106000, but as mentioned above, the renovations will damage the chances for record figures.
When we got almost 96000, there was a ton of hype surrounding TP and whether or not he'd improved through Spring and the weather was unseasonably warm. While it should be nice on Saturday (very nice for April in Cbus), it won't be as warm and sunny as it was then. Tickets were cheaper then as well (I thought they were like $5, but I was a student at the time and passed my ID through the gates to my non-OSU student friends). I just don't see us reaching 96000 again for a long time.
Agree with you there. Rooting hard for both. REALLY rooting to keep Jamarco, but I will be happy with this class regardless.
He looks the part more than John Clayton from ESPN.
I respect the hell out of Missouri and what they have accomplished this season. Their players and fans have a unique perspective on the SEC, considering they're a recent addition and how terribly their first year went.
No one really expected much from them this season, but they went out and are in contention for a BCS bowl. I would love to see them beat Auburn, as it would kind of be the ultimate insult to the SEC.
Best of luck to the kid in the future. Gary, IN is a tough place to grow up, so I'm glad to see he's committed to getting out of there and pursuing an education, even if it's not with us.
Not from the South, but have spent a lot of time there (and am related to both a 'Bubba' and a 'Bo' thanks to my wife).
There are some rational people there, but it almost seems like the rational ones avoid going out in public so you only see the stereotypical ridiculousness when visiting.
I've taken a few psych courses (didn't major or minor in it, just fulfilled a few General Ed requirements) and from what I can tell, tactical motivational research might be covered for a lecture or two in a Social Psych class or something, but it's not likely to really be examined in depth until the graduate level.
Since Urban Meyer's undergrad degree was in Psych, he probably covered a range of Psych topics a mile wide and an inch deep. He might know more about motivation than most of us, but most of it probably would be from his years of coaching experience more than his undergrad degree.
It seems like their skill positions are full of Braxtons and Dontres. I don't like the idea of our secondary having to face that. The only comforting thought is that we would have time to prepare.
At least it got a lot of media coverage, even if most of it was sympathetic toward Manziel and highly critical of the NCAA.
Seriously though, we have pundits left and right throwing jabs at the NCAA for not letting schools pay the players and criticizing the rule book because these schools are getting caught breaking the rules.
The media LOVED watching Ohio State get hog tied to the back of an NCAA pick up truck and dragged through the mud. Every single day there was new "Breaking News" on Tatgate and some jackass 'expert' predicting Ohio State would get a 'lack of institutional control.' I felt like they used a teaser for EVERY commercial break featuring the latest on Tressel and the Tat 5.
Now, ESPN's darling, Alabama, is facing what should be serious allegations, and no one at ESPN seems to care.
It's not necessarily that the allegations aren't serious, it's that it is not in ESPN's best interest to cover the allegations. If they cover these potential infractions and the public opinion DEMANDS that the NCAA drop some kind of hammer on Alabama, then the SEC brand which ESPN is supporting via the SEC network is damaged and less valuable.
ESPN isn't necessarily evil, but they're damn manipulative and they know exactly how to use their power effectively.
This is definitely a more interesting read than another media shill complaining that we haven't played anyone.
Why is it that lesser allegations at other programs provoke national outrage, weeping and wailing while multiple instances of documented proof at Alabama generate little more than a collective yawn?
And I thought we were some of the only ones who felt that way...
If you’re the fan of any team in the SEC, you should be concerned. If you’re a fan of Ohio State, Southern Cal, Miami, Oklahoma State, North Carolina, Texas A&M or Penn State you should be outraged.
Well, except for these guys...
We could compare the media and NCAA evisceration of Ohio State and former coach Jim Tressel for a couple of hundred dollars worth of player tattoos to the deafening silence far more egregious accusations at Alabama have received, but we will leave it to Buckeye fans to draw those parallels.
Been drawing those parallels for awhile now. It still comes out to a 'we kinda got screwed.'
We’ve watched fans of USC, OSU and other programs suffer the same. Those storms were fanned by public outrage (real or imagined).
Here there is fire. Actual roaring, blazing flame. And it’s being ignored.
Hopefully, not anymore.