It actually did, Henry had one long run which boasted that stat line. Otherwise, watching that game our smaller DTs were able to stall their drives by winning one first down, forcing them to throw. If they want to get 2 first downs pounding the ball, thats fine with me, but on the 3rd one if we can get penetration and a TFL the the drive stalls. With us scoring and moving the ball very well all game, except for being pinned by an incredible punter for a 10 min period, we forced them to have to throw to keep up. That's how our D is built, and it has worked pretty well if you ask me.
Not that it's the best solution, but I would rather be prepared to take down the spread offenses in the world that the power run games. We built a team to absolutely obliterate spread offenses, see Oregon 2015 and Notre Dame 2016. With a high powered offense and an opportunistic, bend but don't break defense we have built a real power here. We force teams to have to throw against us which plays right into our hands. Michigan St was a fluke, let's be somewhat real here, if the weather is better we are able to throw the ball, thus allowing for our pass D, which is our strength, to take over and shut them down. Not making an excuse, but that game played on a better day goes our way 8 out of 10 times.
Our advantage comes in that to stop a power run team all you need to do is win one first down with a TFL, which smaller, quick DTs can do very well. That typically gets them off the field. Whereas if we had a bunch of run cloggers, ie Bama, you just constantly work the edges and force them to chase you in the first half, tiring them out for the second. That's exactly what we did to beat them.
Just my two cents, I wish we could find a true run clogger but we keep missing on them in recruiting, so you have to take that into consideration.
I'm super excited to see TG Quick_6 out there this year, him, Brown and Hill have the most upside of our receivers at this point. Really hoping that they can all stay healthy and develop into average blockers so they can be on the field for their playmaking abilities.
I have always been surprised that Thomas can't find his way into the league. He's a solid scorer that can play bigger than his size. I always loved when OSU went small and he played the 5 his last year, that was when we were at our best that year imo.
I think the perfect mix is what Duke typically does, one elite prospect and 3 guys who can develop into team leaders. I think the addition of Jent will bring back the flowing offense that we were used to seeing. Thad's offense is very predicated around a skilled, passing big with shooters and athletes around them. Amir really hurt us in this regard, and hopefully we can turn Thompson into the next great OSU big this season, he definitely has the skill to do so.
So, what do you blame their lack of growth on? Because I have seen guys come through and develop in Matta's system, ie Turner, Lighty, Diebler, Lauderdale, so Thad does know how to develop players that are willing to work on it. None of the guys I mentioned had the athleticism of Thompson, Amir, Scott, and Ross yet I would definitely say that they had much better years and careers.
As for Craft, when you have a terrible shooting hitch you go to the gym with an "expert" or a friend with a camera, both of which he had access to, and you work on it. I truly don't believe that he really worked on his shot because it got worse as he went on. I think he was a hard worker and a phenomenal student athlete, in fact exactly what you want as a coach, yet I think he worked more on defensive drills while by himself in the offseason.
Lastly, Loving got called out by Russell when he left, and he was a young player on the roster that included the players mentioned above, as a collegiate athlete, I can tell you that Freshmen as extremely likely to pick up the habits of their upperclassmen. If loving chose to really like and admire say Amir Williams, then he is more likely to have the same work ethic as Amir.
You're not a bad fan of OSU just because you can see the faults in the players, but you can't sit here and tell me that all four of those years you weren't getting pissed that Amir never looked liked he wanted to play, or that Sam never developed as more than a good defender and dunker.
Matta's biggest problem came with the Amir, Scott, Ross, and Thompson class. Though it was loaded with potential, I believe Ross was at one point the No. 1 player in the class at one point if I recall, but you could easily see that none of them wanted to work hard in the offseason. I just got finished playing volleyball in college, and let me tell ya, I saw some teammates that worked hard in the offseason and got much better each year, and some who just didn't want to work hard and never progressed.
I have a feeling that the members of that class didn't want to push themselves or each other. Shooting is something that you can get better at by going to the gym and taking a thousand shots a day. I would be extremely surprised if the guys from this class were in the gym everyday shooting.
You can't always blame the coach if the players have no desire to work, when he signs a player, it is a 4 year agreement from the University that they can't really get out of. So, when you sign a class of 4 bums, you're stuck for 4 years and the program suffers for 2 more until you get that culture out of the locker room, which I think we still see in a Marc Loving. Now that there are more young players with more to prove, I think we will see a new culture brewing and hopefully Jent can bring back some of that great offense that we saw from '10-13.
Cornell fits great into the 3 tech role that Washington did so well in last year. Our only issue is that we don't have that true run clogger, but the rushmen package is going to be very impressive this year with Hubbard, Holmes, Lewis and Cornell imo.
Read the comment, I love his hustle and work ethic, BUT, he does lineup at the two for us.. Lyle, Tate, Loving, KBD, Thompson is our starting 5, and 4 of them are Forwards, but he is technically the 2....
I think Lyle is more of a 2 than a true PG, I would've really loved to see Harris come back with Lyle at the 2 and Tate come off the bench. I'm also not a big Tate fan, love his hustle and willingness to battle down low, but he does some really dumb things at the worst of times. if Tate was 5-6 inches taller I would love him, but you can't have a guard that can't hit free throws... Just my 2 cents, hope they pick it up this year though I miss having relevant Bucks in the tournament.
Well obviously the whole package is preferred, but if you had to choose between Mike Thomas and Evan Spencer who do you choose? I'd take an average blocker with play making ability over an average receiver and a great blockers any day.
I did say that I love his special teams play, just not his receiving ability. I agree with Johnston though, there were so many times he could've run for 20+ and gotten the first down.
Watching his play, limited as it may be, in the spring game this kid is a playmaker. Personally I love a tall, fast receiver, and I think he has next Randy Moss all over him. For a guy in his 2nd year playing the position he actually does a better job of high pointing the ball than Smith does, whose been playing receiver his whole career.
I think blocking as a receiver is a little overrated, though not to say it's not important. But lets take Evan Spencer vs Mike Thomas for an example. Thomas was a very average blocker yet makes up for it with his playmaking, whereas Spencer was an average receiver that was a terrific blocker (see 85 yards through the heart of the South). But who would you rather have on the field? Thomas.
Smith is no where near the blocker that Spencer was, whereas someone like TG Quick6 has more upside than Thomas imo, and having Smith on the field means less time for some playmaker to be on the field. If Smith was going to become a playmaker for this team he would have already showed some promise, instead he drops easy passes and fumbles the one time I can recall him catching one.
I really hope it all comes together for Wilson this season, it's really hard to have an injury plagued career because it leaves fans always wondering 'what if?' That being said why do we give a lot of love to Corey Smith as a receiver?? I love his special teams plays, but he is an awful receiver, he doesn't block well, nor does he know how to use his hands to catch. If you watch the VaTech loss, he dropped nearly every ball that came his way, most of which were very catchable balls. I hope TG Quick 6 evolves into our deep threat this year with Brown as our other receiver and Wilson or Samuel as the H.
It's 6pm there, 3 here, Birm just said they are within 50 mins of the announcement
So did anyone think the Cavs were going to come in and sweep them? I know I may sound crazy, but it's one game. They shut down curry, and klay, played very good defense, struggled with the easy shots on offense, likely due to nerves, and for some reason everyone on here thinks it's over in 4?! God made 7 games for a reason, Cavs lost by 20+ to the Raptors, GS lost by 30 twice to the Thunder, who lost by like 40 to the Spurs... what doe all of those teams have in common? Sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way, get over it and get ready for a better showing sunday, all we have to do is get hot once in GS and defend home court, which we have been able to do all year.
Actually, defensively that was quite the performance. They were up in Curry and Klay's face all day on screens and never let them get comfortable. As a coach you can't expect Livingston to go 8-10 from the field on contested shots like that.
Offensively, they missed 9 layups! It wasn't the 3 point shooting, play calling, or ISO, they were just missing some layups that they normally hit, most of them were Irving and he still had 25 points on 7-25 shooting. Their offense will come around, this was also technically Love's first finals game as well as Irving's real first shot at GS since returning. If those two come around and play to their respective abilities we take the series in 6.. calling it here
Realistically if you knew the sport, i.e. played it, you should actually feel ok with what happened last night, I saw a lot of effort from Love and Irving on the defensive end. Remember when the Cavs dropped 2 to an extremely hot Toronto team and everyone thought they were done? We play 7 for a reason and only have to steal 1 in GS.. that's all it takes
1. Pryor, just to see him get a chance to develop under coaches that actually know what they're doing, and/or to see someone utilize all of his skills
2. Cam Heyward, just to see how opposing defenses would even try to scheme against 3 great pass rushers.
Lastly, if we could use anyone from the past I'd have to go with Orlando Pace, who is arguably the first of the modern left tackles. I think many of us forget just how incredible he was in both college and the pros. Eze would run for 3k behind our line plus him
I agree with you that I don't want the UK system of one and dones, but, and this is the unfortunate reality of the current NBA, I also would like to see more Buckeyes thrive in the NBA. Guys who play for 3/4 years in college rarely make it, or are drafted in the 2nd round and sent overseas. While they are more fun to get behind and root for; see David Lighty, Diebler, etc, none of them are really excelling and making a name for themselves in the NBA. When I argue with someone that OSU is working it's way up to an elite college bball level, its hard when the best player to come out of there is Mike Conley, or "well if Lebron had gone to college...". I mean look right now we have a total of 4 players in the whole league.
I guess the point is that One and Dones are the guys that get drafted early and talked about, and we all know that in the eyes of these HS kids, college is just a 1 year place to help them go pro. Prior to Russell we missed out on a few 5 stars because Thad hadnt had too much success putting a player in the NBA recently. Ill take 1 of those kind of guys any year over a team with no NBA talent. I dont know about you but I love watching the NBA/NFL drafts and seeing OSU guys go early.
This is one that I have been nervous about too, he could be an outstanding LT. He has the length and raw athleticism that a coach like Warinner could easily mold into the next great OSU tackle. I really hope Meyer & co dont let him slip away due to numbers
I remember how excited I was about this kid coming out of HS. Tall, long corners that can tackle are the future of the game. Apple will definitely be a 1st or 2nd round talent when its all said and done
This has to be the funniest thread I have ever read, sadly its cuz its completely true. The next coach needs to not only fire bollman but let columbus tar and feather him then run him out of town