I would want to pick MSU over Oregon.
Hoping it would be similar to when Oregon faced Stanford.
I would want to pick MSU over Oregon.
Hoping it would be similar to when Oregon faced Stanford.
Joining a gang or not going to college at all were never an issue so I think they are irrelevant.
Saying "she is basically telling all of us how much she doesn't trust her own son", is just your assumption without reasonable and adequate facts to back it up. You cannot and should not judge someone with ambiguous information. In my opinion, it seems like you are judging Malik's mom.
Yes, many kids can hang out and be around others and not let them affect their decisions and choices. However, in Malik's case, in my opinion, one of the main reason Malik wants to go to MSU is because many of his friends are going to MSU. In my opinion, Malik's decision is affected by his friends. Also, reportedly, one of the main reason Desean Jackson was released by Eagles was because of people he associate with. Or when Michael Vick went to jail with dog fighting, didn't he say he wasn't thinking how bad it actually was because it was accepted by people around him? Those two, plus, Aaron Hernandaz, and many other players go into the NFL have to deal with their past.
Here's a quote from an article regarding Aaron Hernandaz,
“A lot of guys come into the NFL haunted by the past,’’ said Tully Banta-Cain, Hernandez’s Patriots teammate in 2010. “Some guys overcome it and some continue to be haunted throughout their careers if they’re not able to disassociate themselves from certain people or certain atmospheres. Aaron may have fallen victim to that.’’
There are many concerns about social influence, and Malik' mom doesn't want to risk her son to go through something similar to what Michael Vick or Aaron Hernendez had to go through, even though it might not be as extreme as those cases.
Seems like we are totally different, I cannot agree with a lot of your comments and wanted to reply.
"Basically she thinks he is making a mistake by selecting a college"
She doesn't think he is making a mistake by selecting a college but the reason behind it draws concerns for her.
"do tell what that reason is?" - reason for her not supporting Malik's decision
Reportedly, MSU players were telling Malik that he doesn't have to go to classes, MSU coaches went behind her back and told Malik to "Man-Up" instead trying to convince her they will manage all of her concerns the way that will satisfy her, perceived bad influence from Malik's friends that will attend MSU with him, also there may or may not be other reasons that aren't public.
"You tell any parent their child wants to go to college for any reason (ON A FULL RIDE) and they will accept it and sign anywhere."
If there are many choices, like Malik does, they rather pick the best option than signing anywhere.
"This is not her choice to make and she should be happy he is even attempting to go to college"
It is not, but its her choice to support his decision to go to MSU or not. She knows even without her support Malik can go to MSU one way or another, like I said, there could be reasons to not support her even though she knows he will go to MSU. (i.e. Malik could be more motivate to prove her wrong, compare to her letting him do what he wants without much resistance. He might not have that "fire" in him in later case)
"To not sign that form when he clearly prefers to go to MSU is a poor decision because he could have chosen another University for many worse reasons"
Yes, but he could have chosen another University for reasons that is reasonable to her as well.
"Plus he will find friends who might do the same at other Universities. He might have coaches that don't care about his education at other Universities."
If the report that MSU players telling him they don't have to go to classes is true, maybe to her MSU seems to be one of the University fall into this category?
"I was quite aware of all those reason thank you. Its BS if that is all of her reason"
Sorry, it seems to me you are judging her again without knowing her or her family. Please stop calling her reasons BS.
"I think the one thing you are leaving out is that she is in favor of Michigan and has bias towards MSU to start with. Which is even more BS."
Didn't Malik's parents say they want Malik to get out of state of MI?
"to me, that is not valid enough"
It is none of our business and she doesn't need validation from us
I cannot spend anymore time replying but bottom line, we should not judge Malik's or Malik's mom without personally knowing them. (Even if I knew them, I wouldn't judge but if I have to judge someone I want all the facts clearly laid out)
Please know I have no personal issues with you. In fact, I usually enjoy your comment on this site.
I just wanted to reply to your comments on this topic because it seems your are bit too harsh on his mom.
Just so you know, I do not agree how she handled Malik's recruiting, if I was in her shoes, I would have done many things differently but everyone has different way to do things and we should try to respect and understand that. At the end of the day, she means well.
O$U vs. Mi¢higan
I love it! Never seen that before haha
I think you are "putting her down" when you are calling her reasons for not support Malik's decision "BS" or compare her behavior to "crap", especially when we don't have all the facts and not really knowing the family.
Like you said, I agree that it is not her choice to make decision for him, but she can choose whether to support Malik's decision or not.
What if she is not signing the LOI, so Malik will be motivated to prove her wrong?
At the end of the day, we won't lose any sleep over what happens to Malik, but his mom will.
I should have waited till tomorrow to ask a question... totally forgot what day it is haha
Still got answers and more laughs... Thanks everyone!
Maybe he showed up with a blue shirt on..
First of all, thank you very much for all your hard work Jason! Some of us are having a little bit hard time getting used to the change but hope you know we all appreciate your hard work and just want to help you anyway we can. So please excuse us if we are too involved and interfering your work little bit. We all have good intentions.
I think I kinda know why we are having a hard time with the front page. I think it will help a lot if those top three articles are also listed in the reverse chronological order as well. I'm not sure if I'm explaining in clear manner but if you check out www.probasketballtalk.com it might be easier for you to understand. They have a similar front page set up with three featured articles on top but those three articles are also in reverse chronological order as well. I find it helps me to know when the article came out and if I missed any articles.
For the issues about the forum, I think I understand what OP was trying to say. I also found myself reading same old topics over and over again and missing out on new topics. I think it is because forum default setting for the order is by most replies not the latest comment. If I double click latest comments, it is just like old website and easier to pick out newer topics and recent comments. It will help other members navigate through forums.
Also, the new comments on forums are harder to identify. Before, it was highlight with yellow box so it was easier to identify new comments when I'm quickly scrolling through the topic but with the new site, unless I look closely, I can easily miss the new comments.
I know you must be stressed with all of our requests and suggestions, but please know we all have good intentions and would greatly appreciate if you give our suggestions a little thought. Thank you very much and hope you have a great weekend.
Kyle, love the way you highlighted a cool quote from Ash in the article, like a lot of magazine articles do!
Maybe you've done it before and I might not noticed it but with the new site, it looks good with red texts standing out!
I'm not a doctor but Vicodin is type of a painkiller right? Hm being a LB, it kind of makes sense.
Hope he can get drafted by Denver or Seattle so soon he can use more natural painkillers.
(I personally think NFL will be forced to adopt what's happening in the U.S. and let players use green sooner than later, especially in state of Colorado and Washington. But then again, if NFL only let players from those two states use green, other teams will want to challenge the ruling for fair competition, therefore NFL will be free green zone! Wishful thinking??)
Oh man, so glad he became a Buckeye. I sure don't want our offensive players to go against him in the real game. Yikes!!!!
With that said, I hope our coaches can get him to properly tackle and wrap it up every single time. It's sweet to see him separate the ball from receivers with massive hits, but there are other ways to do so (i.e. Charles Tillman's peanut punch). I see him showing good tackling techniques on some plays but other times, I found him just going for the "kill." In high school, he might be able to get away with most of those hits, however, in college, as players getting bigger and stronger, some offensive players might be able to bounce off some of those hits.
I'm sure he will also get bigger, stronger and faster but him being our last resort on D as a safety, and helmet to helmet hit resulting an automatic rejection, I want him to play with a bit more of composure. Learning that probably save him some "chump change" for him in NFL level too!
Welcome to Buckeyenation Ben!
It's mind boggling some people are still attacking Malik's mom. She knows her son better than any of us and probably has better idea what's best for him. It's not like some other kids' mom wanting her son to go to her favorite school or her alma mater. If I'm not wrong, I think she went to Michigan so her favoring tOSU is not for her sake.
Also, some people asking her to let him live his life and make his own mistakes, we have no right to tell her how to raise her 5* kid.
Some mistakes are so costly, especially when you have so much potential to do great things, his mom does not want her son to go through that. Look at Bryce Brown, or even our own MoC, if they had Malik's mom on their side, who know what could they've done with all their talent. (No disrespect to Bryce Brown, MoC, or their family and people around them, but they made some mistakes that could be easily called "F%*K UPS" so to speak)
Gene, should leave a comment on quick bits, so we can upvote you!
I do agree with you that she should have kept family business private. She must be regretting taking things public since she's getting much crap from multiple fan bases and college football fans in general.
I also agree with you about Coach Dantonio's way to discipline his players. However, from what I heard, one of the host telling Malik that they do not have to show up for classes, or his assistant coach going behind Malik's mom, etc. Coach Dantonio could have pay more attention to details.
With that said, yes, this whole situation is a mess and feel really bad for Malik. He's in lose-lose situation. If he goes to MSU, everyone knows he went against his parents and perhaps took an easy/comfortable route, in other hand, if he goes to somewhere else (tOSU, FSU), people will know he does not want to be there. Hope this situation clears up as soon as possible. It will be the best for all parties involved, including us, tOSU fans
I think it is not fair for us to calling out his mom without knowing the whole story.
I believe she favored _ichigan early in the process so it's not like she wants Malik to go to her favorite school.
If what I read/heard are true, I feel like MSU coaching staff mishandled the situation.
They should have put more effort to convince his mom that they will direct him to right path. Instead, they went behind her back and disregard all her concerns. (I'm not saying that's what they did, but according to rumors, it seems like that is the case)
If I was in her shoes and saw how MSU coaches handled the whole situation, it will raise even bigger red flags for me too.
(Again, if the rumors are true) MSU coaches can only blame themselves for this one.
Holy Jeremy that was fast haha!!
YESSSSSS!!!!! Welcome Raekwon!!!!
Is there any talk of TTUN wanting Tress or anything like that?
I voted "Disgust" but probably good for TTUN and B1G overall.
But please don't phunk with our heart, 11W...
So.... Is Hyde a senior?
Champions vs. Penn State: Offense: Marcus Hall, Corey Linsley, Jeff Heuerman, Nick Vannett, Devin Smith, Chris Fields, Philly Brown. Carlos Hyde and Jack Mewhort co-offensive players of the game.
I'm not trying to argue... but I don't see Braxton name in here...Your comment implies Braxton is the offensive player of the game so just wondering. I am surprise to find out Braxton isn't in that list either.... With that said, does anyone know what it takes to be a champion for QBs? I feel like Braxton played nearly a perfect game.
Welcome Noah!!! Yayyyyyy
45-7 for tOSU!
I forgot what AJ McCarron looks like... so I googled his pics..
This is him right???
Oh wow!! Welcome to Buckeyenation!!!
Can't wait for 11W Community Interview Questions: New Castle (Pa.) Ath Malik Hooker!!
Thank you!! Hope this is true... really needed some good news today..