After watching that draft were Blaine Gabbert was taken high just because he was a QB, and then predictably busted hard, I'd think everyone would have learned not to pick a QB just because he's a QB. Spending a high pick on a mediocre QB is still spending a high pick on a mediocre player. There is always a better player at another position who actually deserves to be a high pick and will contribute more to the team in the long run. Manziel and the other QB's should have been 2nd or 3rd rounders in my opinion.
Oh man, don't even get me started. I was begging for the draft to go like this...
pick 1A WR Sammy Watkins ( an awesome player at probably the biggest position of need. )
pick 1B CB Bradley Roby ( appears to be better than Gilbert and even excelling in press coverage with the Broncos.)
2nd round they could have still taken OG Bitonio, OR if they absolutely HAD to take a quarterback Derek Carr was still available and I personally think he has the best skills, maturity and make up, to succeed as an NFL QB out of all the QB's in this draft. I was sad when he got drafted by the Raiders because I don't think he stands much of a chance on that team.
Watkins, Roby, and Bitonio/Carr were all on the board when the Browns made each of their first 3 picks, and would have each done a better job of addressing the Browns biggest needs.
If they put a fog machine at the end of the tunnel, that light up Block O on the ceiling would make a pretty badass scarlet spotlight for the players to gather under.
Yeah, I'll definitely be rooting for Navy to win the rest of their games this year. They're pure class and really fun to watch. and that's just as a football team, not even mentioning the respect they deserve for their service to our country.
also, those uniforms they had were fantastic. they should wear those every game.
If he honestly did not smoke weed yet still got suspended as if he did, I think it's perfectly ok for him to say that. I would probably have said worse.
I could not agree more man. there is so much information out there that gets either under reported, or only read by Browns fans that follow the team and Gordon very closely. I hate hearing the national opinions from everybody when they're so uninformed. Here is a Deadspin article to back up all the specific info on Gordon's drug test that you're referring to. http://deadspin.com/report-nfl-drug-testing-is-screwed-up-and-screwed-josh-1612809023
and If I remember right, this is really only Josh's first failed marijuana test in the NFL. He came into the league with one strike already, because of his well documented issues in college. #2 was a prescription for cough medicine containing codeine that he got from his doctor, but failed to report to the NFL. ( If you believe him on that one.) and #3 is the recent one he's being suspended a year for. which in my opinion, He actually passed that test.
I totally understand this sentiment. Especially since during those Cooper years I had a bunch of friends who decided that they were going to be TTUN fans for some dumb reason. Every year I knew we were the better team, and would confidently go watch the game amidst some trash talking TTUN kids, surely expectant that this was our year. It was in the bag. Of course every year, my heart broke, I took it hard, and my dumb friends rubbed it in brutally.
I'm glad we finally gave them a nice 12 year period of losing to us. I don't know if that means we've finally broke even from the Cooper years. But, I still won't be satisfied until we take the overall historical record from them. Both in the series, and most wins all time by a program. (which vacating the 2010 season really hurt us in. I had heard we moved into 3rd place all-time, but vacating that season slipped us down to 5th at the time. Don't know where we stand now.)
I'm with you man. Ted Ginn Jr Youtube videos are my favorite pastime.
Here is Ted Ginn with back to back 100 yd kick returns in the same game against the Jets. First time for that in the history of the NFL, IIRC. his cleats were displayed in the NFL Hall of Fame for awhile because of it. It would be cool if they're still there.
huh… well you don't say...
The Iowa "SEA Hawks"? What? That's like being named the Nebraska "Mountains", The Northwestern "Winners", or the Michigan "Positive Contributors To Society".
That's crazy. Pavarotti is singing the violin line like it's nothing.
this is a cool thread. I like reading through everyone's passions. For me it's...
and if i divided up sports it would be...
3) Cavaliers/Lebron James
I'm gonna go with the Thunder and Lightning strategy….
QB = Troy Smith
RB1= Eddie George
RB2= Archie Griffin
WR1= David Boston (Chris Carter is the obvious choice, but I wanted someone physically dominating)
WR2= Ted Ginn Jr.
…but my scarlet glasses are the coolest…
I hear you man, and i can't deny Johnny is a good player. I just think, other than age difference, the two players are so similar in style and skill set that you have to split hairs to say which one is better. like a tenth of a second in their 40 times. But a very important difference in my eyes, is that one guy is mature, and the other guy is not. and that's an understatement. I'm personally rooting for Brian Hoyer to be the starting QB, but if the Browns wanted a short, mobile, playmaking QB with a rocket arm, who's exciting and has all the intangibles, why not get the less expensive hometown hero, with previous NFL experience. could have drafted a 1st round receiver had they done that. and i'm positive Troy would sell just as many Browns jersey's as Johnny will. … unless Haslam is just really focused on growing the Browns fan base in Texas. In that case, Johnny wins.
Had 2 great games out of how many total? I'm not being argumentative, i'm asking because i don't remember, nor do I know where to look it up. The fact that he had a couple fantastic games and a few average ones out of a sample size of 6 or 7ish games total, tells me there is some potential to work with. I don't remember him having any real stinkers except maybe his second game against the rams in 2010.
Alex smith stunk it up as a starter in the NFL for 7 years before it finally clicked for him. Troy only got a handful of games for his opportunity. I feel frustrated for him, thats all.
ok so maybe there is no stone tablet with Troy's name inscribed on it as the Raven's starter, but if you can remember, before he got sick, all the reports where that he was winning the QB competition between the 3 of them. They each took a turn starting a preseason game, and troy got sick the week it was his turn. maybe he didn't beat out Flacco in the end, but he was winning and had he been healthy he would have won. We both know Boller was not going to win, whether he was hurt or not. He already had a couple seasons asa starter to prove himself.
I am most definitely a homer, and I wear it like a badge of honor. no shame here.
The CFL preseason has already started. I wonder if you can find the games online? Rooting for Troy might be a great way to pass the offseason. He'll be throwing rockets to Duron Carter, Noel Devine, and Ochocinco this year.
How many great QB's are sitting in the shadows as 2nd and 3rd stringers in the NFL because mediocre 1st round guys like Jake Locker are taking all the reps with the first team year after year? I mean, after an entire off season last year, the Brown's coaches thought Brian Hoyer was only the 3rd best QB on the team. there are only 32 QB spots in the league, so guys have to be getting overlooked left and right. I feel like Troy is one of those guys.
I'm with you man. You might be on to something with the Singletary thing. because, I watched every 49er game that year. (they had all 3 glenville dudes, Troy, Teddy, and Donte) and that team played 3x better for Troy then they did for Alex Smith. It was painfully obvious. Their 2010 home game against the Rams, Troy dominated. It was vintage, like he was playing the Golden Gophers again or something. But Harbaugh came in and cut him before practices even started.
Then the Steelers cut him before the Pre season and I remember reading that Coach Tomlin said the reason was because he felt Troy could be a starter in this league, but he would never get the opportunity if he was always sitting behind Big Ben. I admit that sounds like total BS, but whether it's true or not, i did read it somewhere years ago. So, take that with a big grain of salt.
So Troy's career has basically been…
- beats out out Kyle Boller and Joe Flacco with the Ravens, but ends up spending time in the hospital, losing 15 lbs and missing a couple months. Flacco then gets the nod as a 1st round investment and keeps the job. ( Smith had a winning record with Ravens )
- beats out Alex Smith in San Francisco. Makes the team come alive. yells at his coach on the sidelines after an interception. gets benched. gets cut by Harbaugh without even getting a chance. ( Smith had a winning record with an awful 49ers team)
- gets cut by Steelers because the Coach allegedly, said he could win a starting job somewhere else. ( big grain of salt. )
- joins Canadian team as a back up, takes over starting job mid-season, leads team to playoffs. wins starting job outright for 2014.
it's frustrating to see him not being able to catch a break while guys like Alex Smith get a 7 year mulligan for bad QB play, before he started to turn it around. Or Blaine Gabbert and Gino Smith get an entire year or two as a starter. It just doesn't seem fair.
here is a comment that another guy made in Cleveland.com's comment section. I think it's pretty informative.
". . . never proved he couldn't play at the highest level. . . " Agreed, and in fact Troy out-performed Flacco in Ravens camp, to the point that Suggs, Ray Lewis and others kicked up a stink when Smith was demoted. "
uggh. that is so frustrating. it seems like this always happens to the best big men anymore. If I were the GM I would just quit and be like "I can't handle this, someone else make the pick!"
I guess Big Z is the only guy to recover from chronic foot problems, but then again, that took 5 surgeries, at least 3 years and he had a lead foot after that, really limiting his speed and athleticism. so yeah, even if Embiid recovered from this stuff, he might not be the same athlete anymore.