I think a total ban on Satellite Camps would be unfortunate. I know they're associated with Harbaugh and so people here are inclined to hate them automatically, but the truth they're actually a great idea. For the schools obviously they help expand your recruiting base, but more importantly for the student athletes they give them exposure to coaches and schools that they otherwise wouldn't get to see. Most prospects' families don't have the time and money to send them to camps all around the country looking for scholarship offers so most only attention camps that are close to their homes. If schools around the country come to where the players live it significantly reduces the burden on the players and their families and gives opportunities to the students that they otherwise wouldn't get. Also while they're associated with big programs like Michigan, Satellite Camps also have a huge benifit for smaller schools who don't have the resources to host their own camps and get a large turnout - for example many MAC coaches work camps at Ohio State in order to find prospects.
As far as I can tell, banning satellite camps really only benifits major schools in the South who don't want other programs encroaching on their recruiting territory - but it hurts everyone else.
The funny thing is this offense could actually use a prototypical "White WR" - a reliable route runner with sure hands that consistently converts first downs. Not every WR has to be a huge downfield threat - we could really use a Anthony Gonzalez/Dane Sanzenbacher type of guy on this team.
This may be the deepest DL i've ever seen at Ohio State. We will finally have the 10 man rotation Larry Johnson has been looking for since he came here. Last year we had a solid 8 man rotation. Now all 8 of those guys return, we get senior Tracy Sprinkle back from injury, development from young guys like Cooper, Berry, and Burrow, plus an excellent recruiting class coming in. The competition for playing time on the DL is going to be fierce next year. The ability to rotate so many talented players and keep them fresh in the 4th quarter is going to give Ohio State huge advantage this year.
I think were actually deeper at tackle that most people realize. We may actually be starting 4 tackles next year with Jones, Prince, Jordan and Pridegon. I think Jordan is eventually a tackle here and I wouldn't be surprised if he moved out to LT after Jones graduates. Pridegon was brought in as a tackle, but could move to guard if he's one of our 5 best. I also think its important to remember that Prince was only a true sophomore this year - I expect a lot of improvement out of him. We also have Bowen and Feder in the pipeline, both of whom fans tend to forget. I know the staff is very high on Bowen and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the mix sooner than later. And Feder is a bit of a project but at 6'9" he's got the size to be one of the most imposing tackles we've ever had. On the recruiting front Davis is a pure guard but I think Myers is eventually a tackle once he improves his footwork and pass blocking skills. It would be great to land Carman and someore tackles in 2018 to keep the pipeline full, but as I see it our depth at tackle is nothing to worry about.
2 QB systems are almost always a terrible idea. They sound nice on paper but almost never work well I'm real life. Yes Meyer has made it work before but that's the exception rather than the rule.
No way they're 10th. They lost way more after last season and they still were #5 and #6 in the first Coaches Poll and AP Poll
I think this was was sort of a perfect storm for Clemson for Watson and this team to come together like they did. Will be interesting to see if their program can maintain this level of play in the future.
When you're being pursued by the countries best programs, its hard to tell all but one of them No. This is why Meyer always says a commitment just means you made their top 3.
The talent is there but the depth is not in some places. The roster is this year was heavily imbalanced, with 6 seniors and 44 freshmen. One or two more years and the Buckeyes will sooth that out and we will see less dramatic turn over from year to year.
The Buckeyes will be at that point soon. There is real imbalance on this years roster, but one or two more recruiting classes will have the Buckeyes with uniform depth across the board.
I agree. Bama has a very impressive program, but they're not the infallible gods people make them out to be. Don't forget that Saban has only gone undefeated 1 time - they usually lose at least one game that they shouldn't. They're great, but they're not perfect either.
The volume of players leaving early from OSU the last 2 years is an aberration. Elite players will always leave early, but OSU isnt going to consistently lose 6-9 guys to the draft early each year. The roster has been a bit imbalanced but with another recruiting class or two to develop our depth and I think well see a machine in Columbus consistantly producing elite teams like you see in Alabama.
2 QB systems are almost always a bad idea. I know Meyer has made it work before, but that's the exception rather than the rule
Is every thread on every topic for the whole off season going to devolve into people trashing JT Barrett?
Did Trout play on Saturday? Maybe I missed that, or did you mean Knox who filled in when Jordan was hurt
Is every thread on every topic for the rest of the off season going to devolve into trashing JT Barrett?
The coach of the same offense who lost to Alabama 52-6 this season? People sure do have short memories
Both the Cleveland Plain Dealer and The Ozone have articles that deal with this very subject.
I don't think any young coaches would be scared off by someone else getting fired, unless maybe it becomes a consistent trend. However the consistent trend at OSU and under Meyer has been that assistant coaches are very successful and are able to quickly move on to head coaching or NFL assistant positions - this has largely been the case throughout his tenure at OSU and at Florida. I don't think firing a coach or two for underperforming is going to change the perception that working for Urban Meyer is a fantastic opportunity for a young coach.
I would be very surprised if McMillan returned. He's been on the 3 Year plan since day one, and I think he sticks to that. I have also seen where his draft stock has slipped, but the main reason for that is because hes not great in pass coverage. I don't think another year is likely to change that - he pretty much is what he is in that regard. I still think some team will fall in love run d, leadership, and ability to quarterback a defense. I'd guess he ends up getting taken in the 2nd round.
Gators have been alright on Defense. They just can't score on offense to save their lives.
So many early departures could crush depth at most programs, but with the way Meyer and the Buckeyes are recurring I don't worry about depth at all.
I understand what you're saying about only getting one year of production from guys like Lattimore and Hooker, but if that one year is at such an elite level the program can live with that just fine. Meyer has proven over and over again that he can replace elite players, lots of them, and keep the train rolling along just fine. We lost as much talent last year as an team ever has, and yet were right back in the playoffs again this year. Meyer has established an amazing "next man up" culture at Ohio State and with recruiting only getting better each year we will continue to be able to replace elite players with more elite players. Having so many good players on the team means many of them are bound to leave early, but if they perform at an elite level and the next guy does the same then Meyer and the Buckeyes are just fine with that.
I don't have the records in front of me, but I'd bet that by the time those guys got into their 13th year in the league like James is now that they missed games every now and then as well.
Interesting that you chose Charles Barkley and Darryl Dawkins as your examples for not sitting out when neither of those guys ever won an NBA championship and only made it to the finals once between them. Maybe a little more rest in the regular season would have done those guys some good and helped then stay fresh for the playoffs.
LeBron meanwhile has played into the NBA finals for 6 years in a row. Between the large number of minutes he plays, the long playoff runs, and the Olympics, LeBron James has played more basketball over the last decade than probably any player ever has - and yet hes still in peak form when it matters most. Its safe to say that he and his trainers know how to take care of his body and have him ready for the games that matter most.