Our front seven was top 3 in the country last year and back 4 was top. Period. Even spending 3 quarters on the field vs the national champions they looked very good. That 31 would have been 55 vs most other teams give time of possession. If our backfield can end up as top 5 next year, the front will be top 1-2 and we should be right back in the playoff hunt, assuming the offense improves to be a top 20 unit.
"I'd also be almost willing to wager that Martell never takes a meaningful snap as a Buckeye, assuming Emory Jones ends up signing with OSU and the other QBs stay healthy."
What's the old line about ASSuming... this common thread of speculation about who will and won't transfer, or start, or redshirt, or sign is off-season nonsense. QBs get injured. Second string QBs get injured. Remember? Isn't it great to have a competent 3rd string QB? Chances are JT doesn't play the entire year without missing some downtime to injury, hopefully not serious. Then the #2 and 3 are right there ready to go. Give Martell a season to learn big time college football and let him fight for the 2 spot next year. He knows that's his role until someone goes down. In the meantime, it's get bigger, smarter, faster and more accurate. We NEED 4 starting quarterbacks at Ohio State if we are gonna contend for the title annually. These guys aren't going to walk away from the challenge and if they do, they didn't belong here in the first place. Never settle for less than the very best
Yes, but they're still not our rival. "There can be only one" when you're Ohio State.
After year one of the Urban Meyer era (2012?) and our undefeated season, I fully expect the Buckeyes to complete every season undefeated. I know that is not fully realistic, as we are talking about 18-21 year olds, but it's not fully unrealistic either due to the talent we recruit annually. So a "trap" game, is the game that cannot, by definition be anticipated... or they're all trap games. But UNLV???
It's you. And repeat posts are an early sign.... ;-)
Not sure who will back up JT this year- any of the three are qualified which is a nice problem. The real ? Is can any of them challenge JT if he doesn't show significant improvement over last yr? We will get a glimpse of that question in the OU game week 2...
Safety/Receiver? Big body who can fight for the ball and who runs decent routes and can out physical smaller corners ala Noah B and a safety with good hands who plays run like an LB? I could get behind that program!
Ramzy, well said without " unleashing the hounds". In fact, it was artfully well said. And perhaps that is the most artful criticism: to point out that "artists" who take their PERSONAL opinions so seriously that they allow them to become "art" (and political art is a clear exception). These individuals have lost themselves in the fiction that they as "artists" have a role to play in declaring reality to real people in real situations. We honestly don't give a damn what you think about current events. If we did, we'd ask you. Now if you want to create "political art" that portrays your opinions as an art form and see if the public is willing to pay to see/hear it, that is your right, your job and your risk to take. Good luck. Meanwhile, shut up and act/sing/whatever you do best.
And football/MMA/sport is HIGH art: it creates a situation where we become emotionally invested in an uncertain outcome that ultimately has no/few real world consequences for the observers/fans. Like movies, except we nearly always know how they are going to turn out. It's vicarious entertainment either way, but in sport it's not predictable and the fan/viewer engagement is MUCH more intense and personal.
I like the idea of going from the youngest class to very seasoned in one year. The youts were certainly part of the struggle in 2016, and the veterans will add stability in a transition year (to Wilson, etc). I believe that we will also have a few pleasant surprises from Zone Siks as well. Plenty of talent there; time for the cream to rise.
I believe that there is truth to the idea that the "highly recruited" stars of HS who become the "highly recruited" stars of college football are those with great character AND talent. And the sooner we find out who is willing to make the sacrifices necessary to be a big fish in a B1G pond, the better. Welcome, class of 2017 to the crucible (not the USMC variety). May shiny lumps of coal be turned into flawless diamonds.
Tomorrow is NSD. See, it gets better.
Total deja vu for me, a Greyhound from the class of 1972. Haven't live in the area since, but still bleeding scarlet and gray.
We've been excited about the new receivers for the last 3 years or so. What has become clear is that it takes more than meets the eye to identify the great ones, even to the best evaluators. Here's to hoping we find guys with the will and work ethic to make themselves into great college receivers. Like Mike Thomas, to cite a recent example. Great genes and an excellent college career, but who knew he would rise so fast in the pro ranks. I believe his legacy prepared him for the work and will involved in being great. Here's to hoping for a culture of excellence in our receiver room. Less brag, more fact.
The OSU D line has been among the nations best without these freaks of nature. One can only imagine what a couple of them will add. Imagine 2 DTs taking up 3+ OL. Then imagine our 2 best DEs coming 1 on 1. Simply won't be fair until the playoffs!
It's easy to get whipped up before NSD about all the new, exciting 4&5 star talent coming and believe for a second that they can make a difference NOW. Truth is almost none of them are prepared from the neck up to play big time college football and only a couple might be physically ready to go up against 2-4 year older men. The QB question is by far the most intriguing, but I see the value in a smart, secure, superb athlete who really wants to shut all who doubt him the hell up!
I will add sequencing to your excellent commentary. It was a struggle to see us call plays in a seemingly random or a banaly predictable manner. Stringing a series of plays that force defenses to react to what WE do is so much better than calling plays based on what we see the defense doing, especially with superior or equal athletes. Defense should never dictate to the Buckeyes, unless it's 8 in the box and then we make them pay for that bit of foolishness. Also, the quality of our receivers was certainly no worse than what Wilson had at IU and he schemed them open against a superior defensive backfield in OSU. Scheme and sequence. Bank it.
JT is a great leader of young men and a fierce competitor. He is also a very good but not great QB. If our new coaching staff plays to his strengths and helps him improve in his weaknesses, we are likely to be right back in the playoffs again. If JT blossoms like the most optimistic of us believe, we will win the semifinal game. If he doesn't, we will still win the big 10 title, beat -ichigan and finish with a 1 loss season.
If we were to switch to one of our young guns, Burrow or Haskins, do you think we would really do better? I don't.
We weren't nearly as good of an offense in 2016 as in 2015: much younger. Nearly new OLine. Unproven receivers. Pressured QB. Lack of breakaway RB.
JT did not have the year we expected. And some of that was no him. Play calling often questionable, especially in tough sits.
All those factors are largely fixable by 2017. Go Bucks.
In first praising, then hiring WILSON!!! I believe Meyer is largely handing him the keys to the Ferrari/M1-A1 Abrams Tank that is the OSU Offense and saying "tune it up and make it perform like we all believe it can". If he wasn't ready to turn it over to WILSON!!! (Read as TomHanks in Castaway) he would have hired someone else, or WILSON!!!would have gone somewhere else. It's gonna be fun and interesting to see if JT can deliver when we count as much or more on his arm as on his legs. If he can't, prepare for a young gunslinger to step in.
Why do we over recruit at QB???
The massive bodies who have true fast twitch are so very rare. There are a handful in the NFL and the league has learned to value DTs who can stay on the field for 3 downs. We can do likewise at OSU and have the coaching to make it happen and the talent that can be developed. Landers is a prime. Tracey Sprinkle? We will be fine, not that I wouldn't love to get the next great DT/NT.
We are so deep at qb that even if one leaves, one gets hurt we still have two or three top performers. I think K Wilson will have a say in the starting qb in 2017. If the receivers and o line perform to osu standards, any of them could lead us to a NC. If JT improves along with everyone else, he will be a heisman front runner. If not, he won't be the starter by the end of '17. And I won't be surprised to see one or even two qbs bail before spring ball.
Didn't really get to see his passing game at Army all-American game, but his TD run was sudden and quick. Hoping for a D Watson level qb asap. Kid pulled it off last night b
I would guess that coach Davis will take over as D Coordinator after Schiano heads off to greener pastures next year...
Baugh is maturing into a great person and player. It's taken a while, but worth the wait. Has the athleticism of a big WR and the blocking of a TE. Great combination and likely to be an asset next year. If not, NFL teams surely know how to use him.