Many prognosticators? You mean the two FSU insiders and 1-2 other guys whose crystal balls should never be paid much attention to?
Scates would be wise to take into account Kief's experience there thus far. Additionally, next time they both visit don't be surprised if Urban happens to have Kendall Sheffield tell Scates and Thomas about his Bama experience just like he did with Browning.
I see this as good news. He has named us as his leader on multiple occasions with FSU and other running second. Now he visits FSU again and says were tied with them at the top. Usually when recruits do this it results in the team they previously named the leader securing the commitment. Then on top of that he's still scheduled to bring both parents to visit us later this spring. His dad has been a speaker for our Real Life Wednesday program so he's already aware of how our program helps the kids for life after football. Right now no one should be worried about this he's not from the south he's from MD and like 305 said Urban/LJ get to seal the deal during this next visit.
DT is a position I see a lot of people freak out about bc we haven't landed a southern stud in the Urban era. The only one past the Mason Dixon was Michael Hill who was solid last year and a big win at the time bc everyone had him pegged to Clemson. As for this cycle, I believe we will land Vicent who will visit this spring with both parents since his mom hasn't been to campus yet. His dad Troy Vincent has and he loves Urban and even spoke at a Real Life Wednesday for the team. I would love to see Jones at DT think he can be a monster there but I look at our depth at G and RT and it's less than ideal. I love Fontaine's frame and think he could be a solid 1 tech. Hawkins we likely land in May when he decides and he has fantastic agility to be a 3 tech. Tyreke Smith as someone has already pointed out may slide to the 3 tech as well since he's already in the 260-265 lb range with a frame that can take a lot more weight. Our DT recruiting has been fine bc there have been very few teams that have been able to run all over us in the interior.
4* my ass everyone knows he's a 5* and ranking services dropped him unfairly due to injury. They must have short memories bc he almost single handedly won the game for STA against Miami Booker T. Washington in that big ranked game earlier in the year. Ask him if he thinks he got robbed for the game winning score when he clearly broke the plane.
Good insight thanks Andrew! Makes sense following Bank's tweet about there being a lot of talent in this year's OH class but a lot of them need to worry more about school than training.
Hoping to see JoJo get an offer.
Try Buckeye Planet. I believe their recruiting forum should have a list of visitors as well as a list for all the kids offered in the 2018 class pinned towards the top of the page. Won't have a timeline like Bucknuts did but they do a good job keeping track of recruiting info that everyone can follow.
Would love to see this kid in this class.
The U has had nearly 30 decommitments in the last 3 years and 2 already this cycle. This recruitment won't begin until November right now I would say this means Miami is in his top 5.
They were both at our Jr Day and it was confimed Parsons was there. Not sure why a tweet like that was deleted but he's anything but a commit to [mod edit - keep it classy]at this point. The only question will continue to be if the staff takes Micah at this point. There's been some off the field stuff and been reported both sides are getting a better feel for one another. If positive progressions are made on Micah's end I could see him ending up in this class. However, right now that's not a slam dunk.
He's going to be a Buckeye and that should make people happy. However, I would caution people this recruitment will be far from over. To quote Urban this will be a street fight all the way through the new year/NSD so don't expect USC to just give up. His parents are alums there but would imagine our staff is up to the challenge of holding this commitment for basically an entire year.
Adding the Seinfeld gif got me well played!
Correct. Look for a spring or summer decision.
To people complaining or arguing about the talent in Ohio yes the overall talent has been down the last 2 cycles. But both the 2018 and 2019 classes will right the ship. Recruiting is cyclical in nature and the talent that a state produces is not immune from dips or drops from time to time. With that said the talent and top end talent for the 2018 class is really good and deeper than the last two years. Side note but IMO Carman is the most talented OT this state has produced since Orlando Pace and will push for a starting spot at LT or RT immediately. Then the 2019 DL in Ohio has a chance to be special. Zach Harrison will be a 5* top 10-15 kid in the country and DT Jowon Briggs (6'3" 275 lbs already) will be the first true highly ranked 1 tech this state has produced in quite some time.
I know he sent out that tweet about being a DB. But he also said in an interview with Scout that teams in his top list were recruiting him as a hybrid LB, which he then stated he really liked the idea of. At this point I'd imagine it's a take his commitment as an ATH and figure it out when he hits campus. He already had an SC offer when we offered and then still proceeded to put us at #1 on his list. Also, having Wyatt Davis here can do nothing but help our cause. Could see this as a similar recruitment to Shaun Wade's. It will be a fight to NSD for his signature either way, but still like our chances though.
Everyone complaining about DT recruiting should be satisfied this time next year.
- 5* Taron Vincent 6'3" 300 lbs we've been his #1 for a long time now without a visit for awhile. Loves LJ and should be a spring/summer commit for the good guys
- 4* Aeneas Hawkins 6'3" 270 lbs more than likely land this one
- 4* Austin Fontaine 6'3" 310 lbs teammate of Chase Young. More than likely a UMD/tOSU battle here.
-4* Greg Emerson 6'4" 275 lbs coached by Donnie Nickey probable longshot but if UT fires Jones then we may be able to sneak in and get this one
-4* OL/DL Michael Thompson 6'4" 275 lbs could play either way but is a beast in his own right as a DL
-4* OL/DL Matthew Jones 6'4" 300 lbs we seem to be recruiting him as an OL but that could depend on who we land at OT next year besides Carman who is a silent verbal already. Also more than likely a Buckeye at some point too.
-4* OL/DL Verdis Brown 6'3" 294 lbs potential to play on either side and were the clubhouse leader according to insiders
-4* TE/DL Leonard Taylor 6'5" 260 lbs the wildcard who best projects to DT IMO not TE. If we push for him we should land him.
IMO we land 3 of these above guys to play DT. Hopefully those will alleviate the fears of people complain about DT recruiting even though our run defense has been great the last 2 years with all these "tweeners" and converted DE's we've been trotting out there. Will always say this but I'll never understand why people freak out about recruiting under Urban when that should be the last thing.
IMO we're going to land Ruckert. We just redshirted 3 freshman TE's. We're not taking two.
How do you know it's a commitment to a school and not something else?
We are recruiting Jones as an OL and this was stated as much in an 11W article if I recall correctly.
Let's see if those visits actually take place first. Not saying they won't but to fly from Cali to Ohio 3 times within a 3 month period would be a first. With recruits watch what they do and not what they say. It's like Bill Greene once said he could write every recruiting article for the next 2 years on kids were recruiting but they don't mean crap bc it's all fluff.
Other schools have accomplished this feat in the past. I'm just confused as to why someone wouldn't think it possible. Also, rankings can and will change that much is guaranteed. But the fact that it's impossible to land 2 top 5-10 backs is laughable and very much possible with Urban. Blows my mind how people in essence can still doubt the recruiting under Urban or what's possible. Lastly, on some sites Jaelen Gill is listed as a top 5-10 RB (we know that's not where he may end up) top 100 player and we're getting him so we would have 2. I don't see a scenario where we land all 3 (not impossible) but I definitely see us being able to land 2 of Gill and either Snead or Lingard.
Taking my shot not sure how the numbers look for next year but I would imagine somewhere in the 21-24 range could be likely with early entrants:
QB - Emory Jones
RB - Brian Snead, Lorenzo Lingard
WR - Kamryn Babb, CJ Moore, Jahan Dotson
TE - Jeremy Ruckert, Trenton Gillison
OL - Jackson Carman(OT), Qadir White(OT), Badara Traore(OT), Matthew Jones(OT/OG), and 1 of Verdis Brown(G/C) or Juice Scruggs (G/C)
DT - Taron Vincent, Aeneas Hawkins
DE - Tyreke Smith and 1 of Micah Parsons or KJ Henry
LB - Chris Oats, Dallas Gant, Palaie Gaoteote
DB - 2-3 out of Derrik Allen, Christian Tutt, Tre Douglas, Anthony Cook, Asante Samuel Jr., Houston Griffin, Jaiden Woodbey, or Isheem Young
ATH - 2-3 out of Jaelen Gill, Leonard Taylor, Blue Smith, or Maurice Washington
Others that are possible: Brian Asamoah(LB), Meech Harris(WR), Aaron Cruickshank(WR), Darrell Simpson(OL), Michael Thompson(OL/DL), Jaelyn Duncan(OT), Adrian Jackson(LB), BJ Foster(ATH), Iverson Clement(ATH)
Could see this kid getting an offer somewhere down the line possibly at a camp.
You forgot the visit to Maryland when we played them this year. A visit where he stated was just as much to watch us play as it was a visit to Maryland.