While I disagree on the Martell take, in that not only is he a much better QB than Torrance Gibson (reference a remark from another post, not yours), but there is an 'it' factor he exudes, whether it be desire, determination. refuse to lose; he has it. I think your last sentence is what is more likely to be an option; who will depart between Burrow or Haskins, depending on who wins the job- though I am referring to who becomes the backup this coming year. When that is announced, a transfer from one of those two could follow.
I think there is quite a bit of worry wrt maturity, attitude, etc. for nothing. Tate has shown nothing but class throughout this process, and this class. His example on the field is of a total winner with utmost determination to succeed. He immediately took the mantel of a recruiting class leader upon committing. The one area I've seen him like this is with a&m. Obviously some residual stench still lingers. I don't knock him; I have some areas in my life I still hold some active animosity also. He'll be fine...so let's stop with all the Dr Phil diagnosis.
Assumption: Using the above numbers (91- Austin Mack was listed twice; and Haubeil not counting toward 2017), with the addition of 5 more recruits, for a total of 22 in Class of 17. That would make 96; meaning 11 'reductions'. I will not put any names of who they are, but will list position groups / numbers they could come from. [I took the numbers as they stood above, knowing that some players may still declare and would then be part of the reduction]
1. If final 5 recruits are 2 x DB, 1 x OL, 1 x WR, 1x DT; then - QBs: 1; WRs: 2; OL: 3; DE: 1; DT: 2; DBs: 2
2. If final 5 recruits are 2 x DB, 1 x OL, 1 x WR, 1x RB; then - QBs: 1; WRs: 3; OL: 3; DE: 1; DT: 1; DBs: 2
3. If final 5 recruits are 2 x DB, 1 x OL, 1 x RB, 1x DL; then - QBs: 1; WRs: 3; OL: 3; DE: 1; DT: 1; DBs: 2
Depending if 22 is the actual 'limit', further 'attrition' could come from OL (1), WR (1), TE (1), DB (1). Not a pleasant topic, and while I didn't put names here, it still felt a bit unpleasant. I tried to apply what we did in the military, when budgets get cut, and each unit / section was given a percentage they would have to reduce their budget by. Anyway, just my take.
To add to that, at least he had the cajones to face the media after the Fiesta Bowl, unlike some other coaches.
I can see how that may seem logical. However, though his physical measurables aren't what most would want out of a QB, Martell should not be overlooked. He is a winner. He has always won. He has an attitude that cannot be coached. Look past him if you will, but in my opinion, he'll have a big say on who's starting behind center in the very near future.
I'm not a big advocate calling for someone's job, but my perspective on this (which is most relevant only to me) is this: OC- there should be only one, and if the unofficial reports are true that Wilson is it, then that is that (no honorary titles to ease someone's ego); OL- keep Stud; he is a better recruiter (which Warinner is not). The OL play was not great, or even very good this year; that not only reflects on Stud, but moreso on Warinner, as there are many upper class lineman who have not seen the field, and probably won't- which goes back to Warinner's ability to identify talent. If EW is put into some 'quality control' position fine, but let's not muddy the water just to appease an ego. As for QBs, hopefully there is an open competition (a real one), and whoever emerges, I'm behind them (not in the Clemson sense). WR coach....hmmm
Absolute horse crap! Maybe they're trying for an overall ratings decline like the NFL...
I am currently out of town, working in/around New Castle, PA. My home is over in Hoke County. My wife and kids are riding it out, currently no power since early yesterday evening (but have water, and our stove is gas). Unknown number of roads under water or washed out. This on top of the heavy rainfall from just over a week ago. But, everyone is safe. Hang in there.
Wasn't it 13 straight weeks?
They announced that he wouldn't be back. I watched the complete game, and they covered it.
If that were the case, it would have read 'Ryan Lochte doing Solo'...
I think this whole statue thing is way out of hand. I don't get the point, especially while individuals (coaches / players) are still active, or too recently retired. Of those mentioned above, Woody fits, as does Chic Harley. As for Tress or Urban...way too soon to start sculpting.
130F + Iraq 2004
-50F (Ambient), Northern Minnesota, Jan 2011...
Endless Love in 1981. First date with eventual first wife. The movie was not only bad, but not prophetic with regards to my first wife.
Whiners, in general.
That's 50% better odds than it should be for him.
Actually it was Danny Sheridan (a known Urban hater) that said that.
- Elvis Presley (Any list without him on it isn't serious)
- Chuck Berry
- Buddy Holly
- Janis Joplin
Vonn Bell got hijacked from me...had to scramble.
The Panthers pick is in below...not Nkemdiche...
With the 30th pick in the 2016 Eleven Warriors Mock NFL DRAFT, the Carolina Panther select EMMANUEL OGBAH, DE from Oklahoma State. As the highest rated DE left, at a position of need for the Panthers, we felt duty bound to get a player from a university with the initials O. S. U.
Prayers for your wife and family Hove...God Bless you all and hang in there.