Thad recruited all these guys who are leaving ... You do realize that???
People make mistakes.
Thad recruited all these guys who are leaving ... You do realize that???
People make mistakes.
Man I just don't see how the basketball program can bounce back from this. I mean how are we going to replace around 8 PPG and 4 RPG!?...
Like JJ Sullinger said, this place isn't for posers. Wish them all the best of luck but if you don't want to be here then maybe you weren't the best fit anyway. I feel like I can speak for a few of us fans in saying we want kids that actually love this university and want to play here, not ones who pout about playing time. To be completely honest, you have to be damn good to come here and play a lot as a freshman and you have to be even better to START as a freshman. Not everything is gonna be handed to you.
Good luck guys, thanks for the scholarships back.
It's not that I don't like Martell, I really like his game actually. Great player and seems to love Ohio State deep down. I was more looking at it as the class already has a QB and if this is going to be a generally "small" class of anywhere between 18-23 guys, with so many highly ranked good players at other positions, do we really need two QBs this class?
Barrett for another two seasons, then you have Burrow, Haskins, Collier and Clark. I really like the potential of them all, truly. I guess the point I'm trying to get across is if it comes down to it, in this class, you have one more spot, would you rather add another good QB or another good corner, tight end or DT, etc.
I'll be that guy and say right now, I still prefer Danny Clark.
Kid has never wavered on his commitment, has been an amazing recruiter, always seems to want to get better and never stops working.
I think the injury and system he was in at Massillon affected his ranking on these sports sites. I think you'll se him rise slowly but surely.
Let's see how this season goes before we start clamoring about the new shiny toy, Martell. Danny Clark is still the Ohio boy and in my mind HE is the one committed to this program and the better option right now.
I agree Zeke had a better collegiate career but like I said Gurley is a freak, came back and had a string of games, I believe 4-5, of over 120+ yards while like I said running behind the Rams offensive line and having torn his ACL the year before.
I will say this though, if Zeke gets drafted by the Cowboys, he will win ROTY and quite possibly have a better rookie year than Gurley but again, we don't know. I watched TGIII run all over the Cardinals ridiculous defense and then the next week do the same thing to the Packers and that was enough to sell me. He is a man out there. I'm hoping Zeke does the same, especially since if he's a Cowboy I'll be taking him first round in fantasy.
Yes I'm wearing some scarlet and gray goggles right now.
I absolutely love Zeke but do none of you watch the NFL?
Gurley was an absolute godsend for the Rams and won rookie of the year while running behind St Louis' garbage line. The kid can ball and we have yet to see Zeke go up against guys in the NFL. Yes Zeke IMO by far was the better running back in college but outside of the leg incident before the MSU game, he was relatively healthy. Gurley rarely was. The man tore his ACL and won rookie of the year. I'm not saying he's better than Zeke but you certainly can't say Zeke is better than Gurley right now as EZE hasn't played a down of professional football.
I will say this, Gurley is fragile, getting hurt again this season and Zeke seems to be able to keep pushing and could easily handle a250-300 carry season. After their careers are over, I'll take Zeke. It's hard to come back from multiple injuries especially as a RB.
Let us have this comparison at the end of this upcoming NFL season.
Wade seems like that tall corner that Urban loves but I could see them all still fitting into the class even if that means they view S. Wade as a safety. (Me personally love the taller faster corners so I would prefer to keep him at corner.)
Pryor is a big boy already and seems perfect for the Lee/Shazier role. So I project him as a LB. If they say no to anyone it has to be Riep even though I think he's gonna slowly climb up the ranks throughout the year and end up in the top 100. Kid can ball. If they can't take him I pray he doesn't end up at Sparty though.
Some of our best DTs the last few years have all been converted DE's and I don't think that's going to change. Dre'mont Jones will be the next stud DT. And I'm not giving up on Cornell yet either. Hell if he wasn't so damn good at getting to the QB from the end position I would say Nick Bosa could probably be one of the best DT's that Ohio State has seen in years. We saw what Joey did at times, just imagine Nick who is a little shorter but just as fast and explosive. Plus he is outweighing Joey by about 15-20 lbs at the same point in their careers.
DT will be fine. Hill is gonna be a good one this year. Baby Hank
O'Brien + not finishing what he started.
Where have I heard that before?
You're basing this off of what? Williams and Weber's high school mixtapes? Because neither have played a live down of collegiate football yet. He comes in, gets his mind and body right and if he competes well then good, if not, he can always sell Michigan's secrets.... clearly they aren't working but 100-13 instead of 42-13 would be nice.
One thing that Urban and staff like to do that Hoke and staff clearly didn't do was to let kids know what they will be walking into coming into Columbus. They give them damn manuscripts on how to prepare and to take care of their bodies before arriving in Columbus.
Zeke is Zeke, I'm not saying I would have rather had someone else, be real here. But if there was a scenario where both of them ended up at Ohio State, you truly dont think he would have gotten looks? He was a monster coming out of HS, didn't take care of himself, slacked off in the weight room and went into camp like 30 lbs overweight.
Zeke rarely came out but he did need a spell every now and then. I think Green could have been an awesome back under the tutelage of Meyer, Coach Mick and Drayton. Like I said... Hoke ruined him.
Grimes, Peoples-Jones and Harris... Whew. Good luck DBs.
Does anyone remember who it was who was absolutely hands down begging and pleading for Victor to be in this class? It was months ago...
I bet your day was made sir....
oh yeah and, Boom!
With that being said, why not take a one year flier on this kid? If you're going to have Weber who hasn't played in a game yet and who SHOULD be healthy and Williams, a true freshman coming in is always a question. IMO Samuel needs to stay at WR and be a slash type of player. Continue working on his hands and make a solid WR group with Brown, Hill and Gibson.
Honestly, I think his career would have been a lot different if he ended up a Buckeye. I think Hoke and that staff destroyed him. Him and Zeke as a two headed monster would have been fun to watch.
While we're at it we should see if Dick LeBeau will be Co-DC when Ash leaves.
Him + Fickell = 0.0 PPG for the opponent
Isn't there like 5-6 offensive line assistants in this team that all have worked and learned under Warinner? What's the problem with having Ed up in the box with Beck? Not only to call plays but to see what the defense is doing? How the line is playing and make adjustments by calling down to one of his more trusted assistants? (Should have tried to have LeCharles on staff)
Beck/Warinner worked wonders at Kansas right? Maybe they need to be in the box together, letting their offensive genius come out.
Won't matter if we can't beat TTUN. That Game is a must win, regardless if PSU beats MSU. That needs to be the focus.
I'm sorry but I don't think anyone thought the crowd was booing the players. Virtually this is the team that won a national title with all the returning players, any knowledgable fan knows the mass amount of talent on the Buckeyes' roster. I thought and hope the boos were raining down from the stands because of the coaching and playcalls. I'm sorry but I don't think an NFL team could've beat Michigan State with that exact same gameplan, it was horrendous.
You have a QB in Barrett whose money is in the intermediate pass game (which was open all night because of MSU's LBs committing to the run) yet Beck calls for QB runs time and time again. You have a RB up for the Heisman and he gets 2 second half carries... You have a weak secondary that gave up massive amounts of yards to an average Nebraska team yet you don't utilize Miller and Thomas who COULD NOT be guarded that night... The boos were for the offensive coaching staff, period. Can't believe what this game would've been like had Cook played. It's just one loss, yes but it's backbreaking this late in the season. Wins over #9 MSU, whatever UM is ranked and #5 Iowa team would've been enough to put OSU #1 IMO.
This whole Beck thing kinda feels like the Withers situation. Just doesn't fit/mesh with the coaches. Panic hire when Urban missed on a couple guys he wanted, players voicing opinions on play calls..
That being said, the season is far from over. I know this isn't what many people want to hear right now but I'll take a loss to MSU any day of the week if it means an ass kicking of TTUN.
Man oh man I hope the Buckeyes are ranked at #3 or #4. I think it would not only piss the team off but also would be an eye opener for them (players AND coaches) that might still be resting on anything that happened last year.
^ Cardale has an account on here everybody
I wouldn't say the competition in Missouri is world beating but our Buckeyes got a pretty damn good back from there..
It's all about talent and this kid has it.
Lol at the people thinking they have to spend 200 bucks on something official from OSU. Look in your closet, there is something black in there, I promise. If not, your local gas station probably sells $5 plain black t shirts. No one is gonna yell at you for wearing a plain black shirt.
I'm watching the Indiana/PSU game on ESPN2 right now, seems like the interior of the Penn State defensive line is getting pushed around. Also, their offensive line is completely awful. From the inside on out. Their left tackle is getting blown by every time and as I just typed that, the LT, Palmer I think, literally had his hands on his hips the entire play, it almost seemed like he wanted to let the guy go past him... It was interesting to say the least. I think the only thing I can think of to be worried about is their gameplan. I used to think the whole "teams plan for Ohio State for weeks" thing was just talk but after seeing VT, NIU and now watching Indiana, it seems real. Maybe PSU comes out and has a good gameplan on offense and you know Franklin is going to be running some if not all 3-4, that seems like a given. Also, wouldn't be surprised to see them run a lot of inside zone from pistol and shotgun.
PSU's defensive line is getting pushed around, their linebackers seem slow, the corners were playing off 10 yards and giving up all sorts of receiving yards. The only positive I'm seeing is their one TE (#87) and WR (#5). Those two seem like the only two getting open, Hackenberg just got sacked for the 5th time, saw no one was open, dropped his head and tried to run, coverage sack. Also, just watched PSU's LT get thrown to the ground by Indiana's 3rd string DE who is about 6'0 230.
Okay this game is hurting my eyes. I'll say if Penn State is smart, they will run a lot of inside zone and short passes to the TE. If they try and drop back and pass Hackenberg will die.
Ohio State - 56
Penn State - 10