Harbaugh had to deal with Carroll and Kelly. Shaw has had an easier path and recruiting was made easier for him.
Harbaugh is no Hoke. This isn't Hoke 2.0 coming off a 10 win season and Sugar Bowl win. Harbaugh is a proven coach. He turned Stanford into a powerhouse. Didn't he beat USC as a 41 point underdog?
Harbaugh is a winner. MRon brought up a good statistic. Top 5 winning percentage all time in the NFL? That's impressive. Hoke was a .500 coach or something prior to Michigan, if I recall correctly. At the college level.
I don't see how one can look at things objectively and say that Harbaugh isn't a great coach. He'll have plenty of time to get a ring. If Michigan wins the Big Ten once or twice in the next 5 years, which is possible, that'd likely be two playoff appearances and who knows how far they'd go.
Love him or hate him, I think you have to respect Harbaugh as a coach and recruiter. He loves the game just like us. And he wants to win badly.
I have no problem with MRon in this thread other than a comment or two, but he apologized so no big deal. Seems like we're just looking for drama in the offseason. Lol.
I will say this. Harbaugh is a heck of a coach and recruiter. I think he stays at Michigan for a while. I like his aggressive recruiting (other than the sleepovers and shirtlessness).
Mron, I'm on your side in this thread. I can understand your frustration too. I can see where you're coming from. But it's all cool in here.
I really don't care if he is signing autographs. I agree with you here. Just seems silly
Appreciate that you took a few minutes out of your day to help a fellow buckeye out. Means a lot. I appreciate your words
Thank you so much. I appreciate all the support. It means a lot.
I laughed. Somehow someone made me laugh during this time.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Sugar Bowl against Alabama. They played at a very very very high level. But we were at an even higher level. If we played Wisconsin that night I think we win 76-0.
That was the greatest game from a performance standpoint I've ever seen at the college level. Alabama hit harder than any team I've ever seen. But we dominated the game in the trenches and in the secondaries.
Our WRs had the best game I've ever seen from an OSU team. People hate on Jalin all the time, but he was one tough SOB going over the middle all night long and being sure handed. He took a beating. He had the game of his life.
Apple and Grant shut down Coop. Henry and Yeldon were stuffed in the backfield on night long. They couldn't run up the middle on us. We had problems when they got Henry going on the outside, but they couldn't do that all night long against our edge defenders. We made enough key stops to force them to seek other options.
Zeke had perhaps the most memorable play in Ohio State football history that night.
We had a 36-7 run on Bama that night. That never happens to Alabama these days. That front seven was supposed to shutdown Zeke. There were pro scouts saying that we had no chance to run on that front seven. They were supposed to shutdown Zeke like they shut down Fournette a year later.
We dominated their front seven. That front seven. Hell even Evan Spencer got in the action. We pushed them around. Outmuscled them. Zeke too.
Best Ohio State performance I've ever seen. All units except for Jalin's punt returning were spectacular.
Love Eric Murray. Dean Lawry is interesting. Agree with Cook. Don't like him but he can be a star in the league. I see career backup from him tho tbh. Opinions vary greatly.
Landon Turner and Joshau Garnett will be studs.
I think Braxton ends up being a superstar.
Mnot high on Deforest Buckner either. Count me in.
Jeremy Cash will be a star.
Yeah looked BA
Wow Truss shrunk two feet
28. Chiefs - Braxton Miller : Miller is electric in space. He'll give Alex Smith a much needed weapon in the short and intermediate passing games.
29. Cardinals - Cody Whitehair : Whitehair is a very good guard who can start right away for the contending Cards.
30. Browns - Jaylon Smith : If Smith checks out, the Browns end up trading back to snag a top 5 draft talent in the late first to anchor their defense for years to come. The Browns can be patient and allow Smith to sit out a year.
31. Broncos - Connor Cook : Cook is a stud passer who can fit into the Broncos offense relatively easily.
wow, I just predicted this scenario last night!
19. Bills - Emmanuel Ogbah : Rex Ryan gets a versatile DE with high upside.
20. New York Jets - Eli Apple : Apple goes back to New Jersey and plays opposite to Darrelle Revis.
21. Washington Redskins - Jarran Reed : Reed can stuff the run and anchor the defensive line, something the Redskins desperately need.
22. Houston Texans - Corey Coleman : The Baylor product stays in Texas and provides Brock O. with another weapon in the receiving game.
23. Minnesota Vikings - Michael Thomas : Thomas looks to be Teddy's favorite go-to target. Thomas just looks good in a Vikings uniform. He has shown that he can play in cold weather.
24. Bengals - Tyler Boyd : Boyd has strong hands and can catch anything. He'll play alongside A.J. Green
25. Steelers - Hunter Henry: Henry can block for Bell and be a deadly weapon in the passing game. He becomes the Steelers' counter to Tyler Eifert.
26. Seahawks - Noah Spence : Spence becomes Seattle's version of Von Miller.
27. Packers - Vernon Butler : Butler is a massive DT who fits very well into the Packers' defense
1. Rams - Jared Goff : The Rams get their hometown star to lead the L.A. Rebirth
2. Carolina - Ezekiel Elliott : Carolina's 2016 1st, 2nd, and 2017 1st go to the Browns. Zeke can be a lead blocker for Cam Newton in Carolina, as well as a threat in the rushing and passing game. It's a match made in heaven.
3. Chargers - Laremy Tunsil : Tunsil is an instant impact starter on the Charger's line. Can't pass up a left tackle like Tunsil.
4. Cowboys - Joey Bosa : Bosa should be a franchise building block on defense. The Cowboys get arguably the best player in the draft.
5. Jaguars - Jalen Ramsey : The FSU star joins Dante Fowler to form a strong, young defensive core.
6. Ravens - Myles Jack : The Ravens pair Myles Jack with C.J. Mosley to form a fearsome linebacker duo.
7. 49ers - Carson Wentz : The 49ers get their franchise QB to begin the Chip Kelly era.
8. Eagles - Laquon Treadwell : The Eagles get a potential star WR to aid a depleted unit.
9. Buccaneers - Ronnie Stanley : The Bucs get a franchise tackle to help protect Winston
10. New York Giants - Paxton Lynch : The Giants snag their QB of the future. Lynch, Ereck Flowers, and Odell form a future offensive core.
11. Titans - Jack Conklin - The Titans give up a late round pick to trade up a few spots to snag a tough tackle to protect Mariota.
12. Saints - Darron Lee - The 2014 Sugar Bowl MVP had the best game of his career in New Orleans against Alabama, leading Ohio State to a National Championship. The tenacious, speedy, hard-hitting Lee can cover all areas of the field and make plays. The Saints choose him as their defensive centerpiece for the future.
13. Dolphins - Deforest Buckner : Suh and Buckner join forces to create a pretty dang scary defensive Line.
14. Raiders - Jaylon Smith : The Raiders pull the surprise of the draft, and gamble on Jalyon Smith to pair with Khalil Mack. Smith is a top 5 talent when healthy. This is a boom/bust pick.
15. Bears - Vernon Hargreaves : The Bears trade down and take the best available.
16. Lions - A'Shawn Robinson : Robinson becomes Suh's replacement.
17. Falcons - Josh Doctson : Doctson is a future #2 WR in the league. He fits nicely next to Julio.
18. Colts - Taylor Decker : Decker joins Mewhort as future building blocks on an O-line to protect Luck.
Spent about an hour on this already. I'll keep building it later. So tired lol
Landon Turner, Joshua Garnett, Kevin Dodd, Tyler Boyd, and Antonio Morrison are great picks. Morrison is a bit undersized, but that's what they said about Aaron Donald. He's a monster and I hope he's fully recovered from his injuries by now.
I want Zeke to go to Dallas or Carolina tbh. Blocking for Cam as a fullback or running through that Dallas O-line.
I want to see Zeke go to the Cowboys or Panthers. He would fit perfectly in Carolina's offense.
Why not build around Zeke?
#2 Ezekiel Elliott
#32 Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
#65 Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford
#99 Landon Turner, G, North Carolina
To me it sounds like the Cowboys want Zeke, but want teams to think that they want Bosa. I think they want leverage to trade down a few spots and grab Zeke there. I think they're interested in both Bosa and Zeke, but I feel like Zeke is the one they really want