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Comment 02 Apr 2014

Packaged plays are already in the NFL, so saying this is worthless in the NFL is just plain wrong.

Here is an article showing the Bears and the Bills running them early last year: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/packaged-plays-and-the-newest-form-of-option-football/

And here's an even older one featuring the Packers:

http://grantland.com/features/packaged-plays-rethinking-concept-modern-play-calling/

Comment 03 Dec 2013

It's probably some of both. Our pass defense has been pretty poor this year, but they weren't killing us on deep balls, they were picking apart the underneath coverage and then killing us with screens.

I've watched almost every game Michigan played this year and read their offensive breakdowns on mgoblog. I can assure you that Borges called more screens and misdirections in the first half of the OSU game than the rest of their games combined (possibly excepting the ND game).

They used the aggressiveness of our front 7 against us and they attacked our weakness of underneath zone coverage. Combine that with a defense that missed numerous tackles in the backfield and Funchess being a big matchup nightmare, and you get 41 points.

Comment 26 Sep 2013

A QB in the shotgun could easily catch a shotgun snap and lob the ball in the direction of Jordan Hall for an easy touchdown before the rushers got to him. If necessary, the QB could back up a few steps in the shotgun and give himself an extra second to get rid of the ball. That would be extremely easy to score against, as Jordan Hall would be all alone with a wall of blockers. Just lob it up and over the rushing defense and it's 2 points.

Comment 26 Sep 2013

I'm pretty sure that Urban said that the "swinging gate" is called "Magic" in our terminology (and that Ed Warinner was in charge of installing it), and that the "Aztec" formation is the formation with Quads split out on the right side, where Kenny G ran the QB draw for a ~40 yard TD (we installed it and ran it against the SDSU "Aztecs", hence the name).

Comment 09 Sep 2013
After doing a couple of chartings, I think we need to amend this a bit. Your examples expect shotgun trips right to have the TE to the left, but that never really happens in our offense. A typical trips has 2 WR and a TE split right with a WR split left. It doesn't make sense to say trips right open because that implies our te is to the left and split, when he is really on the trips side. Also, unless I missed it, we need a standard terminology for when the TE is a tight wing in the backfield, as this is one of our base formations.
Comment 06 Sep 2013

Umm...

I think you need to go back and watch some highlights from last year. Miami (OH), UAB, Nebraska, Indiana...all of those games had huge designed runs, just off the top of my head.

Braxton scrambled for positive yardage hardly at all last year. He had something like 1200 yards rushing and I believe over 1000 of it was on designed runs. Compare that to Manziel who had 1400 yards rushing and got the vast majority of them off of scrambles.

Now, last week they only called like 1 designed run for him, so almost all of his 77 yards rushing were based on scrambles. Hopefully he continues to scramble more, because that will add a whole new dimension to his game, as last year all he could do was rush on designed plays. Any time he left the pocket last year he would try to find someone downfield to throw to. That can result in great plays like Wisconsin and Cal, but sometimes he needs to tuck it and pick up the 20 yards right in front of him.

Comment 03 Sep 2013

Hey Ross,

When breaking down the 3rd Quarter offense for our charting project, I noticed on several occasions that OSU appeared to be running "package plays" that have been gaining massive popularity lately.

At least twice in the 3rd quarter, the offensive line ran Inside Zone but Braxton pulled and threw either a flash screen or quick hitch to Devin Smith. On one occurrence, the unblocked OLB was in the line of the pass, so Braxton had to pull it down and scramble.

It's hard to say for sure if Braxton was making the read before the play started or whether his choice was being determined for him in the play call, but we definitely seem to be incorporating these package plays into our base IZ game.

I was just curious if you had noticed any other instances throughout the rest of the game. It will be interesting to watch as the season progresses.

Comment 26 Aug 2013

Great video, outstanding work guys.

Comment 30 Jul 2013

It's because it is a minimum of 3 games, but could be extended if he does not meet the additional off the field requirements that the coaches set. It's not that hard to understand...

Comment 27 Mar 2013

Would Nick Johnson really try to lock down DT? Johnson is listed as a 6'3" guard, so I imagine we would look to have DT post up on the block and do his damage in the paint if they try that matchup.

 

A tweet from the presser said that Senior 6'7" F Solomon Hill would be guarding DT.

Comment 27 Nov 2012

Tressel always had a Michigan period of practice every week, but there has been no indication that Urban has continued this. In fact, I got to attend a practice during the week of practice for Cal, and there was no such period on that day.

Our base offense with a generous smattering of playaction passing was moving the ball quite well on their defense, so it didn't really seem like any tricks were needed. They were practicing a throw-back pass to Braxton that week that was never run, but I think that was put in specifically for Cal's man defense, and with all the focus on Braxton by defenses, I don't think it would have been much of a surprise.

Comment 15 Nov 2012

I believe before the season Urban said that he wants to have at least 9-10 good WRs at all times that are competing against each other and pushing each other for playing time and rotations. We were no where near that, and although we have made a bit of progress with what we have, it's hard to have too many as long as you can meet your other position needs.

Comment 12 Nov 2012

I believe, following the game, it was determined that the refs should not have penalized us for making the Block O's. If I recall correctly, the refs didn't know what we were doing or that the gloves made a Block O, they just knew we were gesturing to the crowd for some reason so they threw the flags. The refs should not have penalized us for them, and haven't since.

Comment 23 Oct 2012

I think you are way overanalyzing this. If we complete one additional pass then we are in field goal range with a chance for points. On many 4th downs we will punt, because it will make it harder for the other team to score. With such little time left, there is a very slim chance of Purdue scoring because we are trying to get points before half. 

It is irrelevant if Meyer thinks they will be able to scheme over half time and put up more points later. When you have the ball and a chance to score, you are going to take it. Urban makes each decision based on what he thinks is right to do at the time. To me, going for points was low risk/high reward. Apparently you deem this low risk to be too high. You have a right to do that, but I have no problem with Urban's decision. In fact, you would probably have heard some boos from the crowd if Urban played it safe, as they would have deemed the risk worth the potential reward. Would they be right? I don't know, but I personally have no problem with it.

If you want to argue what is necessary, I could argue that there is no point in even putting Braxton into the game until we fall behind. Just put Kenny in and try to run the ball with Hyde to see if we can win on that alone. If not, then heck, there is still more time for us to change scheme and win the game. That way we minimize risk of injury to Brax and still leave ourselves the opportunity to win the game. It's the same idea as letting a possession before half go (a possession where you are not backed up and at high risk for giving up points). It's not strictly necessary, so why risk it?

I'm not sure what the example with the fumble has to do with this situation. You are arguing game management, not player fundamentals. Perhaps you are arguing safe vs. going for points? Well falling on the ball gives your offense a chance to score points, while going for the scoop is trying to score now. Taking a knee is not the same. You don't gain a possession by taking a knee, you are going to get that even if you go for points. A more fitting situation would be following a blocked punt. Players are taught to NEVER fall on a blocked punt, and to always scoop and score. That is because even if you don't get the ball, you are given the ball on downs anyway, so you might as well try for the score. Similarly, we were getting the ball in the 2nd half anyway, so why not go for the points?

Comment 23 Oct 2012

I didn't say he will go for every 4th down, but we do go for more fourth downs than many are used to. But the choice was between trying for points and doing nothing. In such a situation where we are losing to an inferior team at home, we are going to go for points most every time. We can't play football in a bubble. When asked if we are going to change the way we call plays for Braxton, he said that no we will not. 

He said that sure, we will tell him to get out of bounds when he can and to avoid hits, and we will try to get the ball in others' hands, just like we have tried to already. But when we can't move the ball and we need a spark, we are going to turn him loose, because that is what he does best. If he gets hurt, well then Kenny will have to step up again. If you don't use your best weapon on offense out of fear, then you might as well not have it at all.

And sure, Braxton took a late hit on the play, but that is football. It seems like you are trying to think about long term, but Urban considers his job to be winning every single game he plays for the seniors. He is not playing for next year, he is not playing for down the road, he is playing every game to win. You don't have to agree with it, but that's his stance and it's what he's going to do.

Comment 23 Oct 2012

A coach that quits on a half when we are losing and still have a chance to put points on the board is not one that is going to be very successful in college football. It's their job to always believe in their players and know that they can get the job done, even in the face of very low odds.

Following this kind of logic and taking it to a further level, I would say we had about a 1% chance of coming back and tying the game with 47 seconds to play and no time outs with our backup QB. But Meyer didn't say, well give it your best shot Kenny, but don't get hurt or let our linemen get hurt because we don't have another serviceable QB after you and the odds of you doing this are really slim. Instead, he said, "Kenny, you are going to go win us a game."

I don't believe good coaches are poker players who are constantly evaluating percentages to determine their next move. Sometimes good coaches have to make low percentage moves because they need their team to know that they believe in them and that they can succeed.

Regardless, throwing up a couple of hail marys is really relatively low risk, high reward. Braxton isn't meant to run the ball, linemen don't get hurt that much in isolation pass blocking, and if your receivers get hurt just running down the field then they are going to get hurt doing their job at some point anyway. I have no problem taking shots at the end zone at the end of the half. Just think of the momentum if we had pulled off a catch. We probably would have won much more easily and might not have had to run Braxton as much, preventing him from getting injured.

Comment 22 Oct 2012

Meyer was asked about something similar to this at the end, and he said that what he had envisoned had Miller being the runner in that set up (presumably on a sweep, etc.), and since we want to expose him to less hits rather than more, it doesn't really make a lot of sense at this point. 

Someone asked him if they would run a sweep with Kenny, and he just laughed and said that he loves Kenny, but Kenny will not ever be receiving any handoffs.

Comment 21 Oct 2012

Urban has actually said that he is friends with Mike Leach and that they talked a good amount during his year off and prior to that. They are similar in that they like to tell it like it is and not sugar coat things. The two don't really agree on offensive style, but they respect each others ideas and talk football.

Comment 14 Oct 2012
No, teams do not typically practice first team vs first team during the season. In training camp, yes, but during the season they practice against scout teams that imitate what the coming week's opponent likes to run.
Comment 09 Oct 2012
As others have pointed out, this is a non story. We did the same thing this past Sunday. Its not giving up on a team, its developing those who didn't play while those who did watch film and recover. If this article was about OSU, everyone would be screaming about bad journalism and bias. Yet low and behold we treat stories about other teams the same way others treat us.