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Comment 28 Mar 2014

Even if the Tecumseh's brother hadn't screwed up, the U.S. was eventually going to wipe out the Native Americans anyway. That's what makes Tecumseh so cool—a genius and visionary going down with the ship. A perfect tragic hero.

Voted for Grant cause he killed a shitload of racist traitors.

Comment 16 Mar 2014

I don't think we're too far apart here.

I don't think bombing civilian centers in Germany, Japan, or Britain (leaving aside the atomic bombs) shortened the war by one day. So ultimately LeMay's contributions were pretty marginal. However, that's hindsight, so I wouldn't argue that either side was wrong to try.

As for the Soviets, I personally would have been quite worried, seeing what they had done to the Nazis. The Japanese army had what, a million soldiers in China? Who's to say Stalin wouldn't have wanted to take China too? If we hadn't opened a second front, I think he would have marched all the way to the Atlantic and turned Western Europe into satellite states as well.

We are agreed about the evil of the Japanese military. They murdered millions of civilians, tortured POWs, and had contempt for everyone, including their own civilians.

I'm not going to say anything bad about Tibbets. Like I said, if I were Truman I would have done the same thing. But if people vote for Tibbets, it's to celebrate Hiroshima, which shouldn't be celebrated.

Both of my grandfathers fought against the Nazis. No idea if they would have been transferred to the Pacific, but we shouldn't have risked one more person to defeat Japan than we absolutely had to. I'm glad your grandfather didn't have to go.

Comment 16 Mar 2014

Well, I'm not 100% sure. The Japanese military didn't seem to give a shit about its civilians. When LeMay burned down Tokyo, killing 100,000 people, they never considered surrendering. You could argue that the Soviets entering the war was the bigger reason Hirohito surrendered.

That said, I don't view Hiroshima as this unparalleled evil act by any means—the Japanese were nearly as bad as the Nazis, and I'd say Truman was obligated to save as many U.S. servicemen as he could. I would've done the same thing.

Tibbets was just following orders, and shouldn't be "blamed" for wiping out a whole city. But celebrating him for it seems gross to me.

Comment 03 Mar 2014

Dude, is thataway. Please review this site's commenting policy.

Comment 10 Feb 2014

Comment 19 Feb 2013

+1 That's great.


I would also have accepted a gif of Martin Prince dancing with a snapdragon.