"If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation." -Don Draper. I think Urban and especially the 11W team has done a great job of making the conversation more detailed and intelligent. Fans know you can't pin everything on one person, win or lose, the coaching staff is fairly forthcoming with information to support that, and 11W does a great job interpreting and explaining the details. Fanatics don't care about details. By doubting JT, they are doubting Urban too. Urban has shown the willingness to make a change when necessary and always puts the best players on the field. Look at what happened in '15 with Cardale. Guy wins a national championship and still gets beat out halfway through the following season because he wasn't the best quarterback.
Without any kind of assault charge, he will play.
It's cyclical. The more ready-made guys we get, the more we lose early to the draft. The more we lose early to the draft, the more ready-made guys will want to come here. Good problem to have.
I don't really have a problem with this. I've heard Urban talk about coaching Cam Newton. I would be fine putting him on a similar Ohio State graphic. I can see it now: 1 Laptop Stolen. 1 Transfer from Florida initiating the ultimate demise of a program contributing to Urban Meyer's resignation and eventual hiring at THE Ohio State.
Tim and Brian Kight have been working with the football team for over 4 years now (coaching leadership). Why on earth has the basketball program not utilized them as a resource??
Regardless, Urban knows what he wants to do on offense. Beck and Warinner help put the game plan together. They're all involved in calling what plays and when. JT is involved in making decisions at the line of scrimmage. But I have to believe Urban has the final say on game plan and play calling. I don't know much about football scheme, but it seems like we thought "they're expecting run first, so let's play pass first" and thought JT, Oline, and skill players were good enough to execute - and they weren't. It played right into what Clemson wanted to do by making JT beat them - and he couldn't. Change coaches, change players, they're ultimately going to do what Urban wants to do and sometimes even he's going to swing and miss badly.
Thanks for dusting off the memory of an aging 32 year old man. Cheers
From my armchair, I put Warinner back on the field coaching the line, bring Hinton back to coach TEs again and actually use that position in the offensive scheme, put Day and Wilson in the box, and make Stud a consultant. If Warinner doesn't want to do that, then we'll be ok without him. My concern is that we'll focus so much on improving offense, that our D will suffer, especially with Fickell gone. I look forward to having Schiano call the defense, but development of the LB position is still critical. Have we not hired anyone else on the defensive staff or did I miss something amidst everything else going on?
I respect Larry Johnson for being a good football coach, and even more for not needing to cuss. But something about the way UFM cusses reminds me of my grandpa. My generation cusses so much that it loses its power. I'm really nervous about the game but hearing this makes me feel much better about it. Not just the cussing but the focus and intensity.
I really enjoyed reading through the conversation with the TUN troll. It always brings a smile to my face to see them in such despair.
An interesting thing that some Buckeyes talked about was that The Game has turned into hatred. It used to be about respecting your opponent, and even wanting them to be good. harbaugh is a better coach than brady hoke, but I cannot for the life of me respect him or that team because of how they act. He makes it so easy to hate them. Their players and fans follow suit. UFM once said on the Buckeye Cruise for Cancer that he wants them to be "off the map." Couldn't agree more.
I'm excited to see if/when Urban gets him involved with the program again in some capacity (i.e. leadership consultant, real life wednesdays, etc.). If former players can be on the scout team, are former head coaches allowed to coach the scout team?
Agreed! I'm glad this is the position we're in and the conversation we're having as opposed to being the ones on the outside looking in.
Difference of opinion, friend. What you're saying about TUN, PSU can say about us. PSU played us and beat us which resulted in us finishing 2nd in the division. What I'm saying is besides beating us, PSU has an average resume and went 10-2, and we had control of the game for 3.5 quarters. So the gap between OSU/PSU, to me, is much greater than the gap between OSU/TUN. The only thing a B1G championship for PSU means in terms of resume, is a victory against Wisconsin which both OSU and TUN already have. We beat TUN, but they had control of the game for 3 quarters. And their resume against top 10 teams is just as good as ours.
What we agree on, I totally think we can beat Clemson and Alabama. Bama has been told how good they are for a year and they have 0 wins (and 0 games played) against current top 10 teams.
I definitely do not want a rematch. They made some very correctable mistakes against us (passing 36 times with an injured qb, not stopping the clock late in the 4th, throwing temper tantrums....), and give Speight's injury a month to heal...no thanks. We missed 2 field goals that would have won Saturday's game more easily for us, but our issues on offense are chronic and I don't think they are correctable enough to beat TTUN again this season. That being said, I think a rematch of The Game would be more fair than a rematch with PSU because of game control and resume. TUN has beaten 3 top 10 teams, as has tOSU. In the head-to-head, TUN won game control for 3 quarters, but we have victory. So it would make sense for us to play again. PSU has victory over us, but we won game control for 3.5 quarters and have a significantly better resume. So it does not make sense for us to play them again.
I know I'm really late for a comment, but I just had to give a shout out to Burritos Noches, Catfish Biff's, and Adriaticos. Also, I worked at the Steak Escape in the old union. Then one summer I called in to give my availability and they told me that Steak Escape was no longer there, so I took my talents to Subway on 13th.
I re-watched the sugar bowl from 2014 last night (recorded on BTN over the weekend), and we were throwing it all over the field. Short, middle, edge, sideline, deep. But we had a wr corps with defined roles in the offense. I think the loss of Devin Smith has been greatly underestimated. He was the one guy who was going to go deep. Everyone knew it. Defenses knew it and stretched out because of it, allowing the other wrs to work in space. Yet he still found a way to get open. In both 2015 and so far this season, we have yet to find a guy that can do that.
I'm just glad ESPN is actually thinking about Big Ten games instead of moving NU/OSU earlier to make way for a prime-time match-up of mediocre SEC teams.
Is Urban the only one who is against an early signing period? I just assume he's right 95% of the time so I don't understand why all the other coaches disagree.
As a Buckeye born and raised in Columbus, now living in SEC country, I had an interesting conversation about this yesterday. Conference pride runs deep in the south, much more so than in the north. I never cared how good the Big Ten was compared to other conferences until the SEC started ramming it down our throats. I still don't really care. There's no competition for who wins the best conference. The value I think it adds is in recruiting. Kids want to play in big games and win. Now we're starting to see more Big Ten teams play and win big games. The SEC "dominance" was really only the Urban Meyer and Nick Saban dominance. And that domination hasn't changed at all, except for the fact that Urban is now in the Big Ten.
I think I've heard Urban Meyer talk of his friendship with Mike Leach. Leach tried to get him to go bear hunting or something like that. He's a strange guy for sure, probably with some undiagnosed behavioral...something. But he's done this kind of thing before. I think he would make an outstanding offensive coordinator somewhere but will always be an average HC.
What I don't understand is last year we beat Hawaii by 33 and UFM was defensive when asked why we didn't play better. But this year we put 776 yards on a team and he says "good not great." To the average know-nothing fan like me, we played much closer to our potential this year against BG than we did last year against Hawaii.
Why would anyone hire Art Briles and risk all the baggage and potential risk when they could get Tom Herman out of Houston? I'm thinking of schools like Texas and Texas A&M that have head coaches on "warming" seats.
Something to consider is conference expansion. Look at New Jersey (+2.7%), Maryland (+1.1%), and Virginia (+3%).
I've heard of playing devil's advocate, but no need to judge fellow Buckeyes' opinions. You've made your point to defend Coach Saban several times, we get it.
Urban Meyer is great. Nick Saban is great. They are 2-2 vs each other and will continue to face off against each other as long as they're both in the business.
Honestly who cares. His personality helps Ohio State. Harbaugh is effectively giving Urban motivational currency to use against them. You know there will be a "wall" of Harbaugh comments somewhere in the WHAC.