I'm late to the game, but thank you for writing this article. Urban recently (before this) commented on players owning the program and being Ohio State guys and always wearing team t-shirts. But some things (not many, but some) are more important than Ohio State football and I appreciate the conversation. To me, this was really smart in that it generated conversation without directly protesting a specific institution.
I think it needs to be total 4th downs, attempts, and conversions, then ranked by conversion over total 4th downs. Just a hunch, but Purdue, NW, Illinois, Maryland, and Rutgers probably have more 4th down opportunities to attempt.
Word. Was reminded of the Buckeyes' 66-11 record the last 6 years under the Vest. Now 61-6...tremendous. Not that I want to earn any downvotes, but I'm not ruling out the possibility that Urban retires after rebuilding Notre Dame. He's only 52 years old. What is a guy like that going to do for the next 20 years? I'm just saying it's a possibility and if it happens we will treat him better than the bitter gator fans did.
A loss in an irrelevant game in the middle of February visibly disgusted him, and you knew how the team would bounce back.
Sadly, I can only award you one upvote. You nailed it, sir. This maniacal sentiment is what separates MJ from LeBron, and Meyer/Saban from Stoops/Miles/Jimbo
I grew up an MJ guy, but am also sold on LeBron as a top 3 or top 5 all time player. To me this comes down to extreme talent + egomaniac vs extreme talent + solid ego, not maniac. In a competition with a winner and a loser, I would bet on the egomaniac.
Lots of ifs. I don't think he'll be there long enough. If he does all the good things he would need to do to beat Ohio State in a recruiting battle, some Power 5 school will want to hire him away. I hope he becomes a huge success. The power 5 school that hires him away could end up being....wait for it....The Ohio State.
This is clearly Urban's fault. Just ask Mike Bianchi.
"Just another day in the life of Columbus' most famous resident."
Eric Clapton is also a resident of Columbus. Just sayin'.
Urban studied spread offense with Rich Rod back in the day. Maybe they planned it together.
I don't think it was meant as shade as much as controlling for the different styles. Anytime you go through a coaching change, even if both coaches are good, it takes extra time building the relationship all over again. Nick hasn't had to do that.
Great article, Johnny. I'm going to share this with Mer as her co-workers always think I'm too serious. What you've outlined here is true in coaching and business. People are always being evaluated by 2 things: the results they get, and how they interact with people. In most cases, the results you get are dependent on how well you interact with people. The results the
Michigan Milk Man get are reflective of his ability to work with people: pretty good, but never quite good enough to be great.
"If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation." -Don Draper. I think Urban and especially the 11W team has done a great job of making the conversation more detailed and intelligent. Fans know you can't pin everything on one person, win or lose, the coaching staff is fairly forthcoming with information to support that, and 11W does a great job interpreting and explaining the details. Fanatics don't care about details. By doubting JT, they are doubting Urban too. Urban has shown the willingness to make a change when necessary and always puts the best players on the field. Look at what happened in '15 with Cardale. Guy wins a national championship and still gets beat out halfway through the following season because he wasn't the best quarterback.
Without any kind of assault charge, he will play.
It's cyclical. The more ready-made guys we get, the more we lose early to the draft. The more we lose early to the draft, the more ready-made guys will want to come here. Good problem to have.
I don't really have a problem with this. I've heard Urban talk about coaching Cam Newton. I would be fine putting him on a similar Ohio State graphic. I can see it now: 1 Laptop Stolen. 1 Transfer from Florida initiating the ultimate demise of a program contributing to Urban Meyer's resignation and eventual hiring at THE Ohio State.
Tim and Brian Kight have been working with the football team for over 4 years now (coaching leadership). Why on earth has the basketball program not utilized them as a resource??
Regardless, Urban knows what he wants to do on offense. Beck and Warinner help put the game plan together. They're all involved in calling what plays and when. JT is involved in making decisions at the line of scrimmage. But I have to believe Urban has the final say on game plan and play calling. I don't know much about football scheme, but it seems like we thought "they're expecting run first, so let's play pass first" and thought JT, Oline, and skill players were good enough to execute - and they weren't. It played right into what Clemson wanted to do by making JT beat them - and he couldn't. Change coaches, change players, they're ultimately going to do what Urban wants to do and sometimes even he's going to swing and miss badly.
Thanks for dusting off the memory of an aging 32 year old man. Cheers
From my armchair, I put Warinner back on the field coaching the line, bring Hinton back to coach TEs again and actually use that position in the offensive scheme, put Day and Wilson in the box, and make Stud a consultant. If Warinner doesn't want to do that, then we'll be ok without him. My concern is that we'll focus so much on improving offense, that our D will suffer, especially with Fickell gone. I look forward to having Schiano call the defense, but development of the LB position is still critical. Have we not hired anyone else on the defensive staff or did I miss something amidst everything else going on?
I respect Larry Johnson for being a good football coach, and even more for not needing to cuss. But something about the way UFM cusses reminds me of my grandpa. My generation cusses so much that it loses its power. I'm really nervous about the game but hearing this makes me feel much better about it. Not just the cussing but the focus and intensity.
I really enjoyed reading through the conversation with the TUN troll. It always brings a smile to my face to see them in such despair.
An interesting thing that some Buckeyes talked about was that The Game has turned into hatred. It used to be about respecting your opponent, and even wanting them to be good. harbaugh is a better coach than brady hoke, but I cannot for the life of me respect him or that team because of how they act. He makes it so easy to hate them. Their players and fans follow suit. UFM once said on the Buckeye Cruise for Cancer that he wants them to be "off the map." Couldn't agree more.
I'm excited to see if/when Urban gets him involved with the program again in some capacity (i.e. leadership consultant, real life wednesdays, etc.). If former players can be on the scout team, are former head coaches allowed to coach the scout team?
Agreed! I'm glad this is the position we're in and the conversation we're having as opposed to being the ones on the outside looking in.
Difference of opinion, friend. What you're saying about TUN, PSU can say about us. PSU played us and beat us which resulted in us finishing 2nd in the division. What I'm saying is besides beating us, PSU has an average resume and went 10-2, and we had control of the game for 3.5 quarters. So the gap between OSU/PSU, to me, is much greater than the gap between OSU/TUN. The only thing a B1G championship for PSU means in terms of resume, is a victory against Wisconsin which both OSU and TUN already have. We beat TUN, but they had control of the game for 3 quarters. And their resume against top 10 teams is just as good as ours.
What we agree on, I totally think we can beat Clemson and Alabama. Bama has been told how good they are for a year and they have 0 wins (and 0 games played) against current top 10 teams.