It seemed to me like the boos were coming down when the questionable plays had been called and run on offense. I was watching on TV so more difficult to tell.
NM Buck: Running Zeke could have given us some more first downs and thus more plays. Never know now....
Cowcat: Definitely I think that the offense has played below their potential all year. My gut says the problem may not be with the players at all.
ScarletandGreat: I also agree 100% with Zeke. Nobody in their right mind would disagree with the points he made. I think there are some as yet unseen issues as well.
Buckeye Chuck: You could be correct, I suppose it would depend on who else is available in the draft as a CB, as well as what the needs are among NFL teams for CBs in this draft. In a weak draft he might get drafted this year, but with a strong draft he could be a UDFA; I'm not saying that he couldn't make an NFL team that way. I do believe that his cover skills are not NFL-ready but I also think that he could play run support now, but any NFL corner has to do both.
NikolaJZ1, I can't agree with that first part of your statement at all. I don't think his speed is a huge issue either. I just think that his cover skills need some work. He could play run support at the next level but in order to be a cover corner in the NFL he will need to improve in that area.
That is a good point.
Should have been made face-to-face and in house before making them in a public way.
I don't know how anyone could disagree with the content of the comments though.
Here's hoping that all the commits stay with OSU, and I know that we continue to recruit well. I still say that the future is bright with OSU football.
Elliott is one of the main leaders on this team and to publicly call out Urban Meyer and the offensive staff was disappointing to say the least. Proclaiming he won't be returning to Ohio State next year as if this game had anything to do with that decision was just icing on the turd cake. Anyone applauding his diatribe doesn't understand what it means to be a leader and/or struggles with emotional intelligence.
That a player would speak like this in public indicates to me that there are issues within the locker room. Part of coaching at this level is having the players understand what can be said to the media, and more importantly what cannot be said to the media. Either the staff has not done the job in this regard or Zeke chose to go against commenting policy; either way there is a problem there. I don't disagree with what he said, but it should have been said face-to-face in private. As a team leader Zeke needs to get this part of big-time college football right.
One week to pick up the pieces and perform on a level good enough to win Up North is a tall order after a team leader melts down like this.
There were whispers of Eli Apple also claiming he's going pro as part of the postgame drama. He's certainly an NFL talent ...
Maybe in a physical sense, but Apple has a long way to go to learn how to play coverage. If he goes pro now he will be undrafted.
741, that was exactly my thought when I heard Zeke's postgame interview on the radio with Marty Bannister. Keep that kind of stuff in house and face-to-face.
Last year Mike Bennett stepped up on the sidelines and in the locker room as a team leader. Maybe the leadership within the coaching staff was lacking last year as well and it came from a player or players. I think there are leaders this year among the players but those guys are not as vocal, and I think this group needs some vocal leadership. Maybe it is not that simple, but for some reason they have played flat and underachieved all year and got away with it, and MSU was good enough so they couldn't get away with it yesterday.
Those who say that this year's Ohio State team was overrated now have a case in point. Those of us who would disagree have little evidence on our side. I think that coaching this year is the weak point. The players reflect the coaching. There are likely other points that could be made but in my view these are the overarching issues. Buckeyes have played flat more often than not this year. If they play flat in AA then the result will be an L; if somehow they play to their potential for the first time this year then a win is very possible.
“This is part of football. You wish all the time you can win every game, but you’re going to lose some,” Barrett said. “With that, I think it’s one of those deals where you see where you’re at as a team. You can bow your head and turn the other way or you can lift your head up.”
That is how a man of character, a leader, handles a setback.
Henry has a real shot to win the Heisman. His game is strong.
Watching Mississippi State vs Bama last night, with that MSU ranked #17, I would have to say that Indiana has a better offense than Miss State.
Still working on the receiving game and pass blocking. A lot of ups and downs so far.
It looks like Derrick Henry is in the driver's seat for the Heisman currently, unless Fournette blows up from here on out. I'll take Zeke for his complete game over anyone right now though.
Agreed as well that these are good times. In addition, there have been injuries and suspensions and for these and other reasons the passing attack is not developed the way it should be at this point of the season. On the other side, the defense is at least as good as it was at this point last year. I'm not trying to defend the true whiners at all, but a loyal fan can, and should, still discuss the good and the bad.
Understood that we will get the best effort from every opponent. I'm not sure that OSU is playing better at this stage this year than last year. Even if that is true, penalties and turnovers and missed scoring chances are of our own doing though. Too many self-inflicted mistakes for this late in the season, and to point that out does not make anyone a disloyal fan but simply a realist. IMHO.
JT should have stepped down as a captain.
I disagree that he should have done this. If the circumstances had been an automobile accident while OVI then yes, that would be appropriate. Thankfully no harm was done to person or property, and along with the suspension and JT's honestly contrite attitude, I would say that proper amends have been made. For him to step down as Captain under the circumstances would have only hurt the team further, IMHO.
Agreed. Neutralized the man and took him off his feet. Tight corner near the end zone. Textbook all the way. A back who can effectively block makes a big difference. Usually it goes relatively unnoticed, but since this was a TD play and right in front of the ball carrier then Zeke got some recognition on this one.
Keeping the Illibuck. (This font doesn't work for the word "Illibuck")
A streak like that does require some breaks to happen, but it is mostly hard work with a target on your back.