Ability is never in question for Jalin Marshall, if anyone questions his ability they know nothing about the sport of football. Right now what comes into question is his awareness, and susceptibility to giving up the football.
He's easily one of the 3 or 4 most electric players on the field, but he seems to lack a little bit of the mental acuity needed to be a big time play maker, at a big time program. I love the kid, I have no doubt he can bounce back, he just needs to quit with the mental mistakes, but his ability is on par with anyone in the same position at any school.
I love Marshall, no one has advocated for him like me, but I feel like between last year @ Minny, and this year @ IU, and also the muffed punts, he needs to be corralled a little bit. Not benched, he still needs to play, but if you continue to give him all the snaps he's been taking, you're almost advocating for not taking care of the football. If that's the case, and you're saying, well it's OK to make mistakes, we can correct them etc, why not give a guy like KJ Hill, or Torrance Gibson, or one of the other guys being categorized as a "pure receiver" a look, let them get some snaps and make some of those mistakes and learn from them?
I say for now cut his snaps down to about 75% of what they were, then take that 25% and split those between two younger guys who need to experience but we can afford to not have to redshirt.
Just my opinion, but I think it's worth a look.
Birm proves to be rather infallible with that type of stuff, so it sucks, but hey, what can you do? If it's true, Sparty, or Pitt are going to be getting a stud at RB. Ohio State will still have an embarrassment of riches.
Dude... Kurt Coleman with the resurgence... Awesome to see, GO NORTHMONT!
Urban is sticking with Cardale because he knows if a deep threat develops then that's going to open up the run game more than having Barrett in the game when Barrett doesn't have the threat to chuck it 75 yards with no effort. Like I said, it's not perfect, but to me that seems to be his gameplan for now.
I think Urban looks at what the roster has to offer, and he's staying calm and trying to work it out. It's not a perfect way to do things, but it's what's happening. You can see on the passing down's Cardale's first look every time is down field without hesitation. Then he works his way back towards the line of scrimmage. For better or worse, that's the game our QB can play.
Elite teams just get it done. I think the look at those numbers tells a different story. Was the game still too close? For sure, but was it the end of the world? NO. The defending champs should always get everyone's best shot.
It's not about sample size at all. Urban wants to run the ball, teams know that, they're stuffing the box with 4 DL, 3 LB, and 2 safeties. Then they're telling Meyer to find a Devin Smith somewhere in the wide receiver group to make them honest... We don't have that yet, but at some point someone has to fill that void.
Until then, Cardale has to work it out, and Urban IMO is doing the right thing by leaving him out there and making him take what the defense gives him. Our defense is good enough to keep the other team at bay, and when Zeke gets his shots, obviously he takes them.
It literally all comes down to one thing, they HAVE to find that one guy that can get vertical and open up the back end of the defense so that they'll be forced to move the safeties out of the box, and make the LBs take a wider angle to cover the underneath stuff. It's all about opening up lanes, that's what has to happen to make the offense work.
Two things that can make it happen quicker, 1. Get the TEs involved more with underneath routes which will cause the safeties to come up for coverage and put the WRs in more pure 1-on-1 situations. 2. With the TEs engaged and making plays in the shallow part of the field, do to those 1-on-1 matchups someone playing at WR has to start burning the DBs covering them and getting those vertical passes. That completely opens up the defense, and puts Zeke in 1-on-1 situations with LBs and safeties which is when he was at his best last year (that is assuming the Oline is doing their job, getting Zeke to the next level where it's just 1 LB, or 1 Safety since theoretically everyone else will be accounted for).
It can be done, Urban is doing the right thing, we just need 1 WR to start getting open down field.
I love the kid, but I think right now you have to take some snaps away from Marshall. I hate saying that, he's a great kid, Ohio kid, but man... You just can't allow for those mental errors, he was carrying the ball so terribly. I mean if you're going to play him and advocate for those kinds of mistakes you could put in one of the younger guys, let them make a mistake or two, and get those growing pains out of the way.
Would we be any worse off with a KJ Hill, or Torrance Gibson in the game? I can't see how. Marshall had a game like this last year, then bounced back and closed the rest of the year off like a monster, hopefully that happens this time around too, but I think for now, you obviously play him, but you give him a lower number of snaps. Let him know that he needs to keep those mental errors in check and stop putting the ball on the turf.
Man.. Hill is ridiculous, Sibley too. RB is going to be the strong point of this team for years to come!
What's weird for me is that it seems like the offense is as wide open as ever with all the gadget stuff they're doing, and wildcat, and running Braxton end around, and all that.
I just don't think the read/option will be a big part of the offense as long as cardale is running the show because I don't think the coaching staff has all the trust in the world in his decision making. They're certainly taking the good with the bad, and they're accepting his mental limitations within the game so they can use his physical tools and abilities.
Elliott is the real deal. I think our O-line is just one of those groups that gets better as the game wears on, they start wearing out their opponent, leaning on them, like a true heavyweight boxer. You use your size and put your weight on your opponent and wear them down, then go in for the kill.
The only time it will be a problem is if they go up against a team that has a platoon of studs along the defensive line... Have to keep an eye on that. If they come up against a team that rotates DL and keeps their legs fresh, we could see some trouble.
The unfortunate thing is, when you have a list of issues that needs fixed, you just can't fix them all in one week. The names on the schedule thus far haven't been daunting, but if you look at what each of those teams has accomplished thus far, it's not like we were playing 2a football... It just takes some time. I think by Penn State the issues should be pretty well cleaned up and things should be much more smooth.
Cardale is a high profile player, he's in the public eye, he puts himself out there. If he doesn't play like John Elway every week, then he will be criticized... However some of that shit just goes too far and those people need to get a damn life. I mean, they're 5-0, not a perfect 5-0, not the cleanest 5-0, but Cardale Jones has never lost a game as the starting QB at Ohio State... Jesus people need to get their brains in check.
Have to agree with the sentiment here... I didn't think the top half of the division would be nearly as good as it is. Great too see.
And the craziest thing of all is that he is still a diehard cubs fan.
It won't be a run away effort from the go, Indiana can score, they just can't stop anything. I think OSU pulls away behind the legs of Zeke, I'd say 52-33 OSU. Not that our defense isn't fantastic, but IU can score, it's just what they're built to do. The defense will make enough key stops to keep the momentum in tOSU's favor, but IU will post some points, just have to accept it.
Zeke will get his first 200 yard game of the year, I'm saying 235 and 3 TDs.
it is what it is at this point... You can't please everyone, Corso is pretty much out of his mind anyway. Buckeyes win, Buckeyes stay @ #1... Let's just keep on rolling.
Do the players actually playing in the actual, real, sanctioned, scheduled game like them? Oh they do? Oh OK, because that's literally the only thing that matters. Go Bucks!
Meyer's take, and how he addresses these issues leaves no room for anyone to be anxious... This guy is just in control, he knows what needs to happen. Very cool.
Unless somehow they get a pass for "losing to super duper tough SEC powerhouses." Anything can happen, it's all a big dog and pony show until the committee takes over.
The B1G as a whole conference is really getting robbed... Iowa should be in there, and MS State should be on the outside. Florida undefeated, yes they belong, but the teams they've beaten have turned out to be frauds.
I'm not sure that anyone is making that argument. Cardale missed on a lot of balls over these few weeks, very true, but I've noticed as well there isn't a sense of aggression and fight to go up and get the ball from our WRs. It needs to be cleaned up all the way around.