Personally, I'm not interested in if Dabo can "prove it." I'm more interested if Meyer can get over the Dabo hump. 0-2
Is this a joke I'm missing? Ricky Slade was Vince Vaughn's character from Made. Is that what you're referencing? Was this discussed last year or something?
Since Riley has only been at Nebraska two seasons, what's the point of going back 4 years in Nebraska WR record books? 4 years ago had nothing to do with Riley. Perhaps you should look also at the averages for the best receiver at Oregon State when Riley was coach there, with his recruits.
In 2013 Brandin Cooks caught 128 (128!!!) passes. Cooks was a tiny 5'10" WR, just like Lindsey. In 2014, the leading Oregon St. WR was Victor Bolden, 5'9". He caught 72 passes that year. Lindsey could be the next Cooks if Riley gets the right QB to lead the attack. (FYI, Nebraska has recruited 4* tall, Pro-Style QBs in both 2016 and 2017, not unlike Oregon State's Sean Mannion)
There was also talk that Nebraska was more of a pass oriented team and so would fit him better, but OSU actually passed for more yards last year
I'm sure that the Nebraska downturn in passing stats had to do with the fact that Riley inherited a bad passing QB in Armstrong. When Riley was at Oregon State, back in the Sean Mannion days, they threw the ball over 500 times per season. More attempts means more opportunities for a receiver.
In 2013, they threw it 625 times (4th most attempts, 3rd most yards in the nation.) When Riley has his offense in place, they throw a lot. In contrast, the most times OSU has thrown the ball in a season since Meyer arrived was 2016 (409 attempts.)
I agree that OSU's passing offense will improve with Wilson. Though, if you're talking about a 2017 WR recruit, why focus solely on "QB's incoming??" The QBs most likely throwing to them will come from the 2014, 15, 16, 17, 18 recruiting classes. We know what Speight and Barrett bring to the table. But, in terms of pure speculation of who might be better? Michigan's 2014-17 QB recruits were generally ranked a little higher than OSU's
2014- Collier (.8588) vs Speight (.8728) (UM)
2015- Burrow (.8970) vs. Malzone (.8984) (UM)
2016- Haskins (.9550) vs Peters (.9674) (UM)
2017- Martell (.9718) vs McCaffrey (.9416) (OSU)
Tough to include 2018 because Jones is still a year away from signing and we don't know who Michigan might sign.
Of course, Shane Morris was rated significantly higher than JT Barrett, so rankings aren't always the best predictors. My point is I think that Michigan and OSU actually match up quite similarly. The both have numerous 4 stars competing and notable QB gurus leading their squads.
I thought it was accepted practice to use 247 composite scores for "ranking" discussions, as it is the most comprehensive look at a recruit. Anyway, Harris is ranked lower than Martin on 247 composite. (28th vs 30th)
You know what, I don't know if you were trying to be funny or if you're just really insightful, or both, but it looks like this guy actually did cut his teeth under Jim Harbaugh. Looks like he was a grad assistant at Stanford in Harbaugh's last season.
Hard to think he developed this disposition and quick temper under David Shaw or Frank Beamer.
I think the difference between what J. Harbaugh and Z. Smith do is that they "cryptically" tweet things about other coaches or schools, not about players, commits or former commits. I don't remember either of them crossing that line.
While this article takes time to point out the negative things that happened to the SEC this weekend, it failed to mention that this weekend also served as yet another reminder that the SEC is still the most athletic conference in the country. As usual, the SEC had more draft picks than any other conference. 51 vs 47 for the B1G
Bad publicity paired with empirical evidence that SEC PR types can spin into conference superiority. They'll take that trade. Is that really a TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, VERY BAD WEEKEND? A successful draft and conference bragging rights? Is that as bad as it gets for the SEC?
Just because someone gets benched or has a bad game doesn't mean that they sucked, are a bad football player or that they don't have the skills to be successful in the right situation. For instance, Cardale Jones was benched this year after several bad games. In fact, while you said the UTSA game was one of the worst you've seen, O'Korn's QB rating was 70 and his QBR (espn metric) was 10. But, Cardale Jones' against NIU this year had a QB rating of 33 and a QBR of 6. Yet, this week, some team is going to draft Jones (despite being benched) because they think he has the skills to succeed in certain situations.
Here's an article that disagrees with you. It was written about a week ago. Author thinks Michigan State's depth chart losses are misleading. Andy Staples, SI.com. It essentially argues the MSU rotates so many players (including on the O Line???) that while they lose starters, they still return lots of experience. It's essentially saying what you said about the OSU D Line from the bowl game applies to MSU as well. First time starters (and people returning from injury), with experience.
"We've just tried to make that a given to give guys experience," Dantonio said. "So when we do have guys go down or guys graduate, we have some experience. We're not starting fresh all the time. It's a luxury to have that. You have to play yourself to that."
See, I disagree with this kind of idea. The idea that one game is "all that matters" is near-sighted, in my opinion. This comment fails to address the big picture. I think we need to keep in mind what is best for a player's overall career. Let's assume he accepted Tressel's offer and then got coached up by Meyer.
Cooper won a national championship with Alabama in 2012, catching 2 TDs in the national title game. If he had "chose better" he could have been sitting home on probation. Also, he would have one conference championship to his name if he had chosen OSU, but he won two SEC championships at Alabama. Lastly, and this is just speculation, but I doubt he gets drafted in the first round (yet alone top 5) or wins the Biletnikoff Award if he was a product of Meyer's system. This system doesn't throw the ball much, and Smith hasn't produced any first round WRs yet. There was plenty of speculation that Thomas would end that drought, but he wasn't one of the three WR in the mock draft Byrnes linked above. Cooper had an amazingly successful college career, and most signs seem to suggest he would have been less successful in he went to OSU.
In the spirit of not "reading too much in to a spring game," we've seen how disappointing it can be to read too much into Meyer's spring QB play. In 2010 (after Tebow left Florida), Florida's spring game led to headlines like: "Brantley Shines in Florida Spring Game." The article notes: ``Boy, he was good,'' coach Urban Meyer said. ``He was good.'' Brantley threw for 201 yards, 2 TDs on 15-19 passing. Yet, Brantley finished the 2010 season 10th (out of 12) in SEC passer rating (89th nationally) with a 9-10 TD-INT ratio. Florida's offense faltered all year and Meyer had his worst season ever at Florida, losing 3 games by at least 3 TDs. For me, unknown quantities remain unknown quantities until the fall in real game action. I'm not knowledgable enough about scrimmages and roster depth to know if it's possible to get an accurate read on most position groups during Spring games. But, I do know that you can't get a good read on QBs.
So how are the Buckeyes making so much headway? A national brand that spans the annuls of college football...
Annals means historical records. Annuls means for a party to cancel, void or invalidate an agreement or arrangement.
Don't forget, before OSU plays Oklahoma, they actually have to play against pass happy, Art Briles-inspired Tulsa. Tulsa actually finished the season ranked higher than Oklahoma in passing yards/game (Tulsa 332 yards/game; Oklahoma 308 passing yards/game) Since Tulsa doesn't have the athletes (or the defense) Oklahoma will bring, the OSU-Tulsa matchup should provide OSU with an opportunity to practice against a Big 12-inspired passing attack without the real threat of losing. (When Oklahoma played Tulsa this year, they won 52-38. I could see a similar outcome for OSU.)
Perhaps the cocktail you were sipping clouded your memory. OSU won the turnover battle against Alabama. OSU committed two turnovers; Bama committed three. You confused the Alabama and Oregon games.
Only time will tell if Urbs made the right move.
He probably did. I would trust any 4* back with a Wisconsin offer. They're the best in the business in producing quality backs.
I know it's very unpopular to disagree with 11W staff, especially Birmingham, but WorthyBuck makes a very fair point. Think about this. OSU hired Larry Johnson in January 2014. By January 2014, Nick Bosa already had 15 (15!!) crystal balls in favor of Ohio State. This included a prediction from 11W staff member John Brandon. Every single prediction was for OSU, not one for a different school.
Birmingham can argue that Larry Johnson hit a home run with the Nick Bosa commitment, but everyone (including other 11W staff, Gleitman, Kurelic, etc...) all knew he was coming to OSU in 2013, before the Johnson hire.
Plus I dont see why these DT recruits are not looking at our class saying wow they have 2 5* DE's why don't I be the anchor in the middle to be a dominant? Just don't get it.
Remember, OSU isn't the only team that has talented players coming in. Maybe the defensive tackles in question would rather line up next to Auburn players like Marlon Davidson (5*, #2 DE in 2016) and Byron Cowart (5*, #1 DE in 2015, #3 overall) rather than the OSU five stars. OSU isn't the only school that can put DT's in an advantageous position, and some of those schools are a lot closer to home.