known to the locals as "Pennsyl-tucky"
There are women reading everything in this thread. And commenting in this thread. I see it as a bit of a show of their restraint that some of the comments haven't been down-voted into oblivion. Or maybe they are just reluctant to take on fights when they are outnumbered.
Honestly, this thread is WAY more civil than most of the Stanford rapist related comment sections on the internet and I commend the quality of the 11W readership for that but wow, still a long ways to go for some people.
I never specified accused or convicted, please don't put words in my mouth and also maybe consider why you felt the need to jump to the defense of a hypothetical wrongfully accused man when that was not a part of the conversation
but on the other hand, its been widely shown that a scary high number of sexual assaults go unreported. If you're going to critique the studies for what they (maybe, sometimes) include that you think isn't "true" sexual assault then you should also acknowledge that the data gathering method is flawed and therefore they are probably missing plenty of cases as well, especially with an issue as taboo as sexual assault.
Related to that, people constantly defend rapists by saying "well what was she expecting by acting like that/getting drunk?!"
A hangover! She was expecting a hangover.
questioning how it can affect the team and the game is natural (along the lines of 'I wonder how they will cope without him'), the problem is when that is automatically your FIRST thought instead of sympathy for the victims or rightfully acknowledging that the man is a piece of trash. The BIGGER problem is when fans justify or argue for less punishment because of HOW IT WOULD HURT THE TEAM or the athlete themselves. If you find yourself doing that, STOP IMMEDIATELY and silently apologize to the victim for putting a game above her health and wellbeing
I've noticed though that the people who regularly voice their disbelief of this stat also say that they don't know anyone who has been raped or sexually assaulted (not trying to accuse you, BrutusAndBeers, just pointing out my anecdotal observations)
Personally, for years I was convinced that this statistic was inflated or erroneous because (by my reasoning) I didn't know any sexual assault victims so how could it be that high? Well, then I found out that 2 different women very close to me had been victims of sexual assault that I hadn't known about previously. Suddenly the statistic seemed a lot more believable.
The only Big Ten stadium that can hold a candle to the Horseshoe is Wisconsin's Camp Randall, with Purdue's majestic Ross-Ade Stadium trailing in a distant third.
careful DJ, if the Penn State fans hear they aren't top 3 in something you're likely to get mobbed by a hoard of drunk undergrads screaming "WHITE OUTS!!!!"
personally, I agree with your list
my favorite experience was when I was trying to convince my younger sister (not a true Buckeye, sadly) that there really are Ohio State fans everywhere, she didn't believe it so I bribed her to yell "O-H" in the middle of a crowded sidewalk in NYC. She looked around first and said "but there aren't any Ohio State people around". I told her to yell it anyway and she did, very skeptical the whole while, and got 2 immediate responses. She didn't question Buckeye Nation ever again.
Also, I fly back to cbus for a home game once a year and always fly out of Dallas and its great because you can tell which gate is the Columbus flight from halfway across the terminal because at least 3/4 of the plane is completely decked out in gameday gear!
I have 2 Ohio State tshirts that became my default hiking tshirts and literally every hike I have worn them all, in all corners of the US, I pass at least one person and usually multiple people on the trail who yells a "Go Bucks" or O-H", its great!
no way. If we get a chance to play an SEC team every Sept, ANY SEC team, I want at least half those games in the Shoe
not all Ohio sports teams are created equal
for years we've been trying to figure out what would push the middle B1G to step up their game. well, here you go.
Ramzy, everything you wrote here needed to be said, so thank you for writing it
...I just kind of wish I hadn't read it because now I'm angry, frustrated, and sad all over again.
If you're curious about the science behind that Mirror Lake test question, it is based on actual research a group of OSU students did in 2008/2009 which, yes, did include elbowing through crowds of drunk half naked undergrads to take water samples every half hour. Here's a Dispatch article about it:
even better, the research was later published in a peer-review journal and presented at an national geology conference
for years I actually assumed backpack-sized weren't allowed only because I had never tried to take one into a game and never saw anyone with one in the student section around me. how much do you need that wont fit in pockets? and if you say flask, may I suggest the hood of a sweatshirt...best hiding spot to get past pat-downs
I don't know if its possible for this team to play better than expected. That's not at all a knock on the team, just on the expectations of this season and, especially, this game.
That said, I would not at all be surprised if this game the Buckeyes finally finally live up to every lofty overreaching dominating expectation of the season.
I want that except Clemson over ND. Florida and Clemson revenge games in the same playoff?! yes please!!!
can we, uhh, not harp on this comparison too much? I'd prefer to not pound this into my head until after The Game when we can all look back and say "wow, I'm sure glad this weekend didn't end up resembling this other oddly similar situation 50 years ago!"
actually (excitedly slaps on hipster hat and "kiss me I'm Irish" pin) Guinness has fewer calories per pint than Bud Light.
look it up
I still vividly remember that week. Teams were dropping like bowling pins. I am hoping for a bit of #chaos this week, just not enough that it affects OSU
no matter how blind the living room coaches think Meyer is, he knows his team better than any of us, and because of that, I'm not worried. People seem to forget that the team who stomped Oregon and 'Bama was also the team that played within a score of Indiana (INDIANA!) and needed 2OT to beat Penn State. That was the same team as the National Champions. This now is a different team. And we are still doing fine.
I still think anything after 6pm is too late for November. At that point its getting dark by 5 and with games going longer and longer 8pm games aren't over until midnight. Yea its nice to have a night game when watching from home but when it comes to keeping everyone in the stadium through the whole game and then getting everyone out of town after the game, 8pm is just too late. I don't know if they showed it on TV at all but the C deck north end zone was pretty darn empty a few minutes into the 4th quarter. between the cold and the fact that it was 11:15pm, even A deck fans were streaming out of the stadium with over 7 minutes to play. The stadium was barely half full by the end of the game. But the TV audience loves 8pm games and that's where the money comes from so, unfortunately, that will carry more weight.