great write-up even though you missed my favorite basement bar, Zeno's! can be found under the striped awning between The Corner Room and Pickles, follow the outside steps down to the basement. Its small and crowded, feels like a classic dive bar but with a great beer selection, and the undergrads tend to avoid it (which is a plus in my book)
minor tweaks here and there are inevitable and can be dealt with.
more modern, not black
THAT'S the part that concerns me. If they put TBDBITL in scarlet or gray or white or anything other than crisp dress blues I'm starting a riot
that was exactly my thought
if a good amount of rain is expected be wary about where you park and what your car can handle. the tailgating fields are literally fields which can get pretty muddy if you are following hundreds of other cars out and there are some particularly bad low spots. just a heads up
there is one of the recent threads on a Happy Valley road trip
that doesn't really jive with their plan to return it to a "more natural" state though...
well technically it was only sanctioned the last couple years when they tried to regulate it by enforcing wristbands. Before that it was "highly discouraged" but nothing was actually enforced, they just turned a blind eye. probably an even worse choice, honestly
that would be SO MUCH MORE dangerous! we thought Mirror Lake was gross? The "Old 'n tangy" is disgusting. and filled with all kinds of junk lining the bottom
in light of what happened last year, you can bet they will find a way to keep the jump shut down next year and following years as well.
however, from the perspective of tradition, this is somewhat ominous timing. the modern Mirror Lake jump started in the late 90s (pretty sure? someone correct if I'm wrong) closely followed by a decade and a half dominance of TTUN. This year, as the jump is shut down for good, Michigan looks to be finally approaching something resembling their former strength...
if I were a superstitious undergrad I would be working real hard on a replacement tradition
yikes, I even made myself nervous just typing that up
I noticed that too and wondered at the difference. I couldn't tell if it was throwing them off because they were relying on verbal cues much more than other teams that come to the Shoe, if they were mentally thrown off their focus by the hostile environment, or if the crowd really was that much louder than in the past...probably some combination of all of that? I did notice their QB looking to the sidelines repeatedly as the 3rd down crowd noise really got going, I wonder if there was some dropped communication there?
For what its worth, I was in south stands next to Block O and the from that perspective the crowd noise specifically on Indiana 3rd downs was the loudest I remember from any game I've been to except for 2006 Michigan and 2012 Michigan
- avoid coming from the south up 322, absolute worst traffic. Avoid Atherton St as much as possible too. coming along 80 and down 99 is probably the best option to get to the tailgate fields but it will still be bad
- the tailgating lots are nice if you can get in early. traffic before and after the game is the biggest problem. its horrendous.
- go for Meyer Dairy on South Atherton over The Creamery, its better ice cream (shhh, don't tell them that) and isn't mobbed by PSU alum
- if you're not familiar with Pennsylvania alcohol laws - you have to buy beer from a bottle shop (a few bars downtown have them, including Zeno's) or a "distributor" and wine and liquor from a wine and liquor shop. no alcohol at gas stations or grocery store (Wegman's does have a beer store included with a separate check-out). There's a beer store and wine/liquor store right next to each other on the south end of town - 258 W Hamilton Ave
- bars/restaurants with a slightly older crowd (ie fewer undergrads) but still in downtown: Zeno's, Rathskellar, Allen Street Grill, Sharkies, The Deli, Darkhorse Tavern
- good bars/restaurants outside of downtown - Westside Stadium, Champs (the one on N Atherton), Otto's, American Ale House, Faccia Luna
- absolutely avoid unless you are a wasted 19-yr old - The Phyrst, Mad Mex
lastly and most importantly - there is a Buckeye tree on PSU campus that should be dropping buckeyes right about gameday and most people there have no idea that its there and don't recognize the buckeyes. its kind of fun to collect from the enemy's yard. Its on E Pollock Rd at the south corner of Davey Lab, straight in from the fire hydrant on the street
Zeno's shout-out!!! +1000
lol yes they would. not tons of people but some. every version of The Game I've been to there have been people who leave early except for 2006. fewer than other games, sure. 8pm is just an absurd start time for The Game for a handful of reasons
I don't mind noon games because I just move my tailgating to after the game. Although I also don't need to be trashed to be hyped up through an entire game. Granted, post-game tailgating is only fun when the Bucks win but you know, they've been pretty good about that lately (*knock on wood). But an entire evening to enjoy the win, keep the party going, and maybe tune into another rivalry (little r) game or 2? yep, sounds good to me!
I'm not sure I agree about the advantage. Its Rivalry weekend, Thanksgiving weekend, last regular season game, HUGE historic rivalry between huge historic programs...if anything an earlier start gives it less TV competition on one of the biggest football weekends of the year. Plus an earlier start makes for a better at-game experience for fans/recruits. It is november in Ohio afterall. And when both programs are highly ranked I really doubt that kickoff time is going to keep that many people from tuning in.
8pm at the end of November is WAY too brutal weather-wise. It will have been dark for over 3 hours before kickoff! No way. Sure you'd get the TV ratings but for a game with this many alum in town you'd also have plenty of people leaving early trying to drive home before 1am, people leaving because it is too cold/windy (especially in C deck). Personally I dread the day that they turn The Game into a night game because it will mean that TV ratings and commercial revenue have finally won out over fan experience for good.
I'll take a 3:30 start though, getting the 2nd half under the lights is a nice compromise
I also don't see Purdue going anywhere. Even within Delaney's business sense there still runs a strong Big Ten culture that is rooted in the history and tradition and even if it would be a smart business decision I don't think the other schools would tolerate kicking Purdue out. However I would love to see the rest of the conference put more pressure on Purdue to step up their athletics contribution. If anything I could see Delaney (and others) supporting a more tiered payment structure from the sports revenue pot where if you don't help raise the $ (championships, tournament appearances, alumni support, etc) then you get less of it back. Or at least threaten that enough to scare Purdue
my favorite call was about a year after I graduated from OSU, I was in grad school somewhere else at the time, and the caller just kept dropping the "suggested donation" and not really giving me a chance to explain (I was trying to at least be polite since I know most of the callers are undergrads doing work study jobs) until they got to $30 and said something along the lines of "that should be doable, right? $30 wont break you bank account" and I finally cut in with "look, you're clearly not a broke college student and don't understand how grad school works. $30 WOULD indeed break my bank account."
so yea. I will donate occasionally to specific funds set up through the department I was a part of but never via the cold call from the dreaded "unknown" 614 #
No. and Of course it was.
I'm not in cbus so can't help you out but FYI I've often gotten into the stadium with student tickets without having to show a BuckID. Always better to have one with you of course but, if you can even remotely pass as a grad student (ie not gray-haired) and you pick the right line (usually the ticket scanner who is moving fastest) then in a pinch you can probably make it inside without one, or with a red credit card peeking out from under the ticket when you hold it out to scan.
current students can weigh in on whether they have cracked down on IDs at all but as recently as last year I used student tickets without having to show one
I was at the Sugar Bowl and one of my favorite experiences there was Bourbon Street after the game...it was basically game day Lane Ave transported to Nola. The very few non-Buckeyes I saw out that night were just kind of staring around in awe/horror
obviously he meant it as an insult but I don't see "basic" as a bad thing necessarily. Why change what's working.
Just a guess but I wouldn't be surprised if "undergraduate reputation" and Faculty and Financial Resources were a bit higher for Penn State. Like someone mentioned above, undergraduate reputation lags behind because reputations are hard to change and OSU's rise has mostly been in the last 10 years. Also, I have no numerical proof but my impression has been that OSU has awesome outside funding and support for all things medical science but that a lot of other disciplines are still working on boosting their research funding, faculty endowments, etc. Penn State on the other hand has some very close ties to a lot of industry (oil, environmental, ...others than I'm blanking on) with some very deep pockets to fund research and faculty. I would think that those 2 sources kinda balance out in overall $$ but wouldn't be too surprised if Penn State was a bit ahead. just my $.02
NRG Stadium was the loudest place they've ever played?!? Hoo boy! do they have a surprise coming for them if OSU fans travel in usual numbers this weekend!