The read option look is still a very prominent part of the offense. And my #1 point wasn't that the read option was the only issue, that was just and extra point I threw in there. My point was that I don't feel like the staff is putting CJ12 in the best position to get the most out of his skills. I guess looking at it again, I didn't make that too clear with my post.
He underthrew Smith several times last year but he still made the play. Hence "security blanket".
Since this debate will continue to flock like the salmon of Capistrano, here is my two cents:
1.) The staff is not putting Cardale in the best situation. The read option is not his game, not even close.
2.) 12 Guage is severely missing his deep threat security blanket in Devin Smith.
Until these issues are resolved, I will continue to be very concerned at the present and future state of the offense.
Mankind or Dude Love?
I could not agree more, OSUAE. I am more of a "lurker" as opposed to a significantly engaged member (due to lack of available time) and the recent surge of negativity has watered down the beauty of the site, unfortunately. I love 11W, but I think the popularity of the site due to the wonderful work the staff does around here has definitely brought in some skunks.
I've only downvoted posts that are asinine and/or overtly obnoxious trolling efforts, because this site deserves better. The influx of members posting recently has brought in a lot of grouchy types. I don't get why so many of the newer posters/members have been or are so completely negative; it's almost as if they can't handle any type of debate or rebuttal.
Honestly, I don't think it is so much that Cardale isn't performing. I don't think the offensive minds are tailoring an effective gameplan for CJ's skill set. Read option does not and will not work with CJ; he doesn't know how to make that read effectively. It's almost like trying to place a square block into a round hole. I'd like to see them start running some play-action and roll CJ out from time to time. He just looks very uncomfortable in the games so far.
My thoughts, JK. I don't think they need to be setting up particular packages for Brax or JT to get this part of the game going. It isn't beneficial to Cardale. JT and Brax made the read option a thing of beauty. It's just not an effective part of Cardale's game as he consistently makes the wrong reads. If they're rolling with CJ12, they must figure out a way to make him more comfortable. A game tailored to JT and Brax's style doesn't fit Cardale, it never will.
Man...people fucking suck. Hopefully this is a happy outcome.
I work at Mt. Carmel East. Yes, they have ESPN 2...at least on some of the TVs. Ask your nurse or aid, they should be more than happy to find it for you. Get well, Buckeye brosef!
As pro-JT as I am, this decision has to be final. No more switching back and forth. If they are trailing by 17 at half to any team during the regular season, Meyer must stick with Cardale. He will have to learn to overcome adversity and deficits in order to take us the the promise land again. It is absolutely vital that Cardale understands he is the guy and there is nobody there lurking over his shoulder.
Over the past couple months, the influx of members has brought some Negative Nancy types in for sure. I see a lot more down voting now than I ever have. Pretty annoying.
Yes, please. Jesus. It's frustrating, we get it, but this site deserves much better than to be flooded with one whiny mid-game post after another.
The Game in '06
However, the Sugar Bowl win over Arkansas in 2011 was the epitome of the Tressel years for me. Pure elation for the win, absolute frustration that it was a close game. Bucks had dominated them and it would've been the perfect way to end the SEC talk, but in typical Tressel fashion (God love him) he squeezed the team like a relentless vest-loving boa and let Arkansas right back into it and simultaneously shoved my heart into my Adam's apple.
If I were you, there is no way I would be missing that game. Especially if you've already purchased tickets. If he's a worthy friend, he'll understand. One of my friends (an anti-OSU guy) scheduled his wedding on the day of the Oklahoma-OSU game next year. I told him unless it's filet and endless craft beer and whiskey, I'm headin home early...
I am not in any way trying to question Meyer. I'm simply saying, as fans, we have this site to bring up opinions and concerns and subsequent discussion without being labeled as fools. I saw the OP getting dumped on for an opinion related forum topic (that, coincidentally, i tend to agree) and decided to comment.
I don't think he is trying to claim he knows better than Meyer. Sometimes, players look much different in games than they do practice. There are several very intelligent football fans on this site that express opinions and concerns. I think it's a mistake for C12 to be starting, along with many of my close Buckeye friends. It doesn't make us "JT fanboys" that are questioning Meyer's mental state, rather we are a group of football fans that feel very strongly that Barrett distributes the ball better and moves the offense better than Cardale (I felt this way even after Cardale's run to the title) and there are some legitimate concerns starting to creep into our minds now that he doesn't have Devin Smith in which he can rely.
Yes, we won.
Yes, Cardale is undefeated as a starter.
Yes, we've scored ~40 points in each of Cardale's starts.
BUT, to dump in the OP for this thread is a bit unfair. I wholeheartedly disagree with 12 gauge getting the starting job as well. Am I an idiot and should be shamed for questioning Meyer? No. Meyer knows what he's doing, we all know that. But, as fans, we come to sites like this to converse about questions and things we notice during the games. Personally, I think the offense moves sooo much smoother and the ball is distributed so much better with JT behind center. 12 Gauge intermediate passing game without the security of being able to fling it 50 yards to Devin is becoming a bit of a concern. Two pretty sloppy passing games are enough for concern, but not enough for full panic mode. If next week, on a full weeks of rest, coming off a comfortable win, against a MAC team shows little to no improvement, it might be time to think about a possible switch. There is no need to wait it out and see if 12 Guage develops enough when we have a guy in JT that looked so good in all aspects of the offense for nearly a full season last year.
As amateur as the coverage and production of games has been over the years on BTN, I am fully expecting them to put OSU game on one of the alternate channels that 90% of us do not have...
He is super annoying and has no room to complain about schedules because his team has sucked so badly since he took over. However, our schedule is kind of pathetic. Not that it's OSU's fault, necessarily, the BIG teams they play are just bad outside of Minny and MSU.
I don't consider them metal, either. However, their influences on modern metal music are about as wide ranging and it gets. For that, I think it is beyond a shadow of a doubt accurate to place them in the argument for the Mt. Rushmore of "metal".
Absolutely, which makes the argument so entertaining.
I think they have to make Mt. Rushmore. I'm not a huge fan, but I have absolute respect for them. They've always stayed to their truest form and have never conformed to the fads. The discussion for the 3rd and 4th spots on Mt. Rushmore is where it gets interesting for me. It's Sabbath and Iron Maiden as the only two locks. I think there are legitimate arguments for Zeppelin, Pantera, Metallica, and Rush for the last 2 spots. Zeppelin and Rush are interesting because of the "metal" label, however, Zeppelin laid so much of the groundwork, and Rush were pioneers of progressive rock/metal scene. This is a topic much discussed under the influence of Sam Adams and other soon to be legal substances.
'Tis but Week 1. Crazy things can happen. Sloppy play and missed opportunities can plague teams...such as the Va Tech/OSU game last year. I don't normally judge any team based off of the first week or two.
Cherry or chocolate...serious question.