Think about it this way. They all commit on the same day. Warren and Hudson are teammates. They'll spend the next year or so bonding. A Buckeye offer (if it were to ever come) probably won't come til a year from now. All three are from northeast Ohio and will be going on visits together, texting, tweeting, whatever else the kids these days are doing. It's a lot tougher to pull that kid away. Birm talks about comfort and relationships non-stop in recruiting, they are CRITICAL. These three are building that sort of relationship. I highly doubt we flip any of them if we ever offer.
I disagree. This is not just one, this is three. They can build a bond. It's a lot harder to flip kids once they feel bonded. Sure, I'd rather they go out of conference (I never bought into the whole stronger conference, stronger team crap... we built this championship team when the B1G was in the gutter), but I'd rather not see mass exodus to a single team. It's a lot easier to snhapoff one when it's a lone branch, a lot harder when it's a group together.
I'm not quite sure were you are going with that gif... you haven't disproven anything I've posted. It's still silly to say that UK fans are trying to say they "got us" or whatever. 11W is a top quality FREE source of recruiting information. Not every fan base has that. The link was posted with no comment, nothing to indicate any sort of retort or brag.
Did YOU read the article?
Getting early attention from next-level coaches isn't new to Toledo Central Catholic sophomore Michael Warren, Jr.
"I was coming out of 8th grade," Warren, Jr. told Eleven Warriors. "I'd see like every high school coach come to my games and practices to watch me play."
Warren, who lives in the Start High School district in Toledo, decided Central was the place for him, and not only because of football.
"Really," Warren said. "I went to Central for the academics at the school and because of the hard-nosed style of the football program."Crunch Time - Michael Warren highlights
Hard-nosed adequately describes the bruising sophomore tailback. Although he's listed at 5-foot-10, 187 pounds, Warren plays much bigger than that. In last week's state title win, Warren rushed for 194 yards and two touchdowns, bringing him to an impressive 2,246 yards and 28 touchdowns in his memorable sophomore year. With NCAA policies as they are, colleges are not yet able to directly reach out to Warren, but it's coming. The Buckeyes are going to be one of them and that's something the Central sophomore is looking forward to.
"Ohio State is a place I feel I could fit in," Warren said. "I love the city and I love the environment. I've got an uncle that lives in Columbus. I know I'm young, but I think I could bring a lot of success to Ohio State in the future."
With a state championship win under his belt as a sophomore, Warren and his Irish teammates will enter 2015 with a target on their backs. Because of that, there's no resting on any perceived laurels.
"Yeah, winning a championship was a dream ending to the season," he said. "But it's time to get better for next year."
I've highlighted the section concerning Warren and the Buckeyes. Out of 17 lines, 3 of them are about him and the Buckeyes, the rest is just about him. As a 2017 recruit, there isn't as much out there about him, I'm sure this was useful information for UK fans to get to know their new commit.
Stoops is doing a great job in this state. We can recognize that it doesn't really threaten us without downplaying it or belittling their fanbase.
No they aren't... I just scanned the message board, saw where that link was posted. They seem excited about the commits they are getting and the in-roads into Ohio Stoops has built. But I saw nothing of the sort like thumbing their nose at the Buckeyes or thinking they are stealing recruits from us.
If you can show me definitive proof otherwise, I would appreciate it
People seem to forget this detail when talking up college stadiums as WC sites... it's the same reason why the Big House could never host one either. The WC is like the Super Bowl and is all about pleasing big wigs, and they want to sit in seats, not bleachers.
IMO the Cap one cup is a joke... it props up the rev sports and dismisses the others. Case in point is that NDSU is top 10... they won one championship in football (FCS at that matter) and have done literally NOTHING else... yet they are supposed to be one of the best men's athletic programs? Bullshit. Denver won lacrosse and is top 8 in hockey and somehow they are #3?! Duke has really done just about nothing outside their basketball championship, but that is good enough for #4. It rewards the champions and not overall success. The Director's cup is FAR better... the only reason the Cap One Cup has any traction is because it is put together by ESPN.
that means the post is new
No worries! I'll reiterate, I love that it's getting the attention.
In terms of "long-shot", I'm not quite sure what the other commenter means by "buble=longshot"... UCLA was a longshot who made the tournament in basketball. Most people had us like the first team out before the win over Maryland. Had we not lost to Rutgers we probably would have been in with a loss to UMD in the B1G tourney anyway. JHU was really MUCH more of a longshot going into it's game against UMD and the tournament. In fact, it probably needed to beat us in the final to make the tournament, and the placement it got in the bracket reflects that. It does stand to mention that the B1G getting 3 teams this year IS surprising. Not a good inaugural year. It's super cool that all 3 of us have advanced and two of us (tOSU, JHU) knocked off a top ACC team at home to do so.
Talking about the 4th quarter, you have to understand lacrosse to see it any other way than you did. Lacrosse is a game of runs and no lead is really safe. Earlier this season we saw us blow a 6 goal lead to lose to Marquette and a four goal lead with 4 minutes to lose to Maryland. I officiate lacrosse and this season I have seen a team blow a 7 goal lead then come back from a 7 goal deficit to win the game (only after nearly blowing their own 4 goal lead). Our lead was tenuous and it took a great performance at the face-off x, solid goaltending from Carey, and a couple of timely goals to keep the cushion. Were we as aggressive, especially on offense? No, we were in time-killing mode. But with the way lacrosse is and with the new shot-clock rule this year, you can't just sit in the offensive end and play keep-away. That's how you blow leads.
Now we can shift gears and talk about Denver next week. We beat them at their own, physical game last time in the 'Shoe. They out GB's and outshot us and dominated the face-off x but we managed to keep the deficit with one or two goals and then exploded in the 4th quarter. I don;t know if that will be possible this time around. We may need to smother them early with lots of offense. Aggressive, take-away defense to create as many possessions early in the game as possible. Myers has liked switching from zone to man multiple times, but I think that man-to-man is the way to go early. At this point, it's all gravy cause if we pull off this upset we get ND/Albany and those are both matchup NIGHTMARES for us.
I know y'all aren't big lacrosse followers, so I'll save my quibbles with the article (we were a bubble team but not a longshot, Duke is not as good as the past two seasons, calling the 4th quarter "keep-away" is disingenuous... etc). I'm just happy people are watching this awesome sport.
This is a major Dr Jeckyll/Mr Hyde team. We should all be big Brown fans tomorrow cause even though we've beaten Denver before, it was on our turf. Do not want the Pioneers at home. The other side of our semifinal are both terrible matches for us. ND kicked our butt big time and Albany's hyper-attack offense really is counter to our methodical tempo. I was very happy to see us put together nearly a complete game (minus the first few minutes) and especially hold our footing after a boneheaded Unsportsmanlike on Jesse King gifted Duke two late goals.
you beat me by my guess by 47 seconds... stupid research
Let's play detective then... Who Alex has CB'ed to not OSU that are major targets:
- Nate Craig-Myers: low likelihood. Don't see the Coombs connection
-Josh Imatorbhebhe: this is a possibility... Coombs was just in Georgia and this would have come out of left field
-Michael Onwenu: Coombs is the Michigan man... this would also be a big surprise, though I don't know if we take his commitment right now
-Andrew Pryts: Not a big enough surprise
-Nasier Upshur: don't think we take a TE until Farrell announces
-Michael Jordan: Big pick-up and Coombs is the Michigan recruiter... not sure this classifies as a "major surprise" though
-Nigel Warrior: This fits our bill... big name... Georgia lean... Coombs was just in Georgia
-Ben Bredeson: Big name and surprise, but don't see the Coombs connection
I'm going with one of the two Georgia guys, I think it's Nigel Warrior.
THIS... it's a hotbed for geology and petroleum study in the country. Though that's mostly at the graduate level...
The volleyball player played for Ball State, probably our biggest in conference rival in Men's Vball. I am probably one of the main students he is referring to... I have a funny story about Ball State Volleyball.
They had a player named Ethan Pheister. He was a terrible server and led the NCAA in service errors. When he played us in 2010 (his junior year) we got in his head so much he skied a serve into the lower bowl of SJA. He proceeded to flick us off and have 3 more errors. Fast forward a year and every time a player hits long we would chant "Just like Pheister!" Even opposing teams that were not BSU knew what we were talking about and would laugh at the chant. We get matched up against BSU in the MIVA championship game in SJA. We keep a running tally of his service errors on the season (it was something ridiculous like 109) and harassed the crap out of him. After we ended their season (for the fourth year in a row) he came up to me and started threatening me. "You f***ing piece of s**t. I will f*** you up!" I just started laughing. He got pulled away to the locker room and as he walked away my friend yelled "Better call the WAAAAHMBULANCE!" He started screaming that we better not be there when he got back from the locker room, so naturally we sat down and waited. His dad walked over and said we were lucky his son didn't kick the crap out of us. We just laughed and when Pheister came out of the locker room he just glarred at us. Best part? Our team went on to win the national championship on our bitter rival's (PSU's) home court... what a magical senior year that was.
Too many wideouts and one too many along the line (if you have a second true DT)... I think this class ends up around 22 (MAYBE 23, but that depends on the Punter... mostly cause I think our Aussie is off to the NFL early)... My points of contention:
- I don't see Sammons breaking into the depth chart at OL anytime soon, too raw there. I think the staff wants him on DL. With that being said, adding in Barrow to him and Bosa/Hall/Cooper at DE makes a stacked class. Only way I could see us take 6 along the defensive line is if it's Gary.
- Ahmir Mitchell is a luxury that we don't have space for, if I understand our need in the defensive backfield. I think we wrap up Mack and Corley in the next two months and call it quits, unless someone like Craig changes his tune.
- I have little optimism with Eichenberg. This feels like a classic ND/Cincy issue that we will just never win. I don't know what is in the water down there, but I'm ready to look at plan B's. I REALLY like Menet, and I think the staff does too. I expect them to really go hard in that direction if Liam commits to the domers. While Wohlabaugh is a name we've heard more recently, I think Cupp is also one to watch come camp-time.
- I wold love to have Ferns in, but I'm losing optimism the longer it goes. I think this was a mistake by the staff not to push for an early commitment. We were at a position of power, but his brother's transfer has really muddied the water. I think we end up with Hansford (who will end up being a HUGE piece in keeping Hall in this class) and then an camp-offer LBer. My vote is Sandswich (MAYBE, Tucky if they think he can slide down from safety). We really aren't hurting for linebackers, so the staff has the ability to be picky, maybe spend more time pursuing Borland.
The reason why the win over JHU is so big is now we've really opened the path to winning the regular season B1G title. We have games @ Michigan and @ Rutgers, which while neither is a cakewalk, are very winnable. Our toughest game left is against a VERY good Maryland team, but we get them at home. If we win the road games we are favored in, our resume should look good enough for an at-large regardless what happens against UMD and in the B1G tournament (as long as it's not an embarrassment in the 1st round). It's been a rough year OOC for B1G lax and we have two of the best wins (v. Denver and @ Towson) for the conference. If we beat the Terps and run through the conference, we could end up with a decent seed (though that early season loss to Detroit is KILLING us... ugh... plus a missed opportunity to knock off Marquette on the road)
Complaining about imaginary internet points is just silly.
That's why I did it. Anytime I see Ped State I downvote. It's like people using O$U or Urban Liar... it's stupid and makes us all seem like halfwits. Show a little maturity.
Exception is Michigan, who are free game for anything.
You can only use a medical redshirt if you've already redshirted
Really? Give me the name of the bigger fish that isn't Ferns... I'll wait
I live in St Paul now... and I love it here. Lots of things to do, people are super friendly, great beer, lots of awesome outdoor options (hiking, camping, fishing, hunting) and recreational options. It's a fantastic school and a pretty neat campus. TCF Bank Stadium is really nice. All in all,m I like Ohio State and Columbus better, but for those who are born here, there is a lot of pride in being a Gopher. He grew up in Eden Prairie, 10 minutes from the front gates of the university. I'm marrying one of these gophers (well, she went to Marquette, but that's not a battle I will win) and they are damn proud to be from and represent this state.
I live in MN... Eden Prairie HS is like 10 minutes from UM campus. Don't know much about their football, but they have a dynamite lacrosse program.
I live in St Paul and my future father-in-law has split season tickets to the Gophs, so naturally I found myself as one of like 5 Buckeyes in Marriucci last night. Physical game that Minnesota straight up dominated in terms of shots and quality possession. That being said, take away some STUPID penalties, and this is a tie game. The team is a bit reckless at times, and that seems to cause silly penalties and missed defensive assignments. The entire conference is a mess this year, so it is really disappointing to still be at the bottom of it. Penn State has capitalized and moved up in the world of college hockey a bit this season.
Appreciate the insight Birm! I tend to like to talk about the second level of recruits. Not the big names, but those solid 3/4 stars that seem to be forgotten about (see Jamel Dean for '15)...
Last one from me... and it's about 2016 again, this time the LBers... I don't see it as a major need, is the staff on that same wavelength? Ferns is obviously in, but I don;t think Coughlin (MN) or Borland (WI) are gonna end up here... will the staff be content at 2 LBers or will we see a flurry of offers at this position going forward
I was pretty surprised to see Lavert Hill go to PSU... and especially so early... do you think he is a potential flip if we stay on him?
In fact, DB in 2016 is a giant mystery to me. As I said earlier, I think Speaight earns the offer and flips, and we seem to be right in the mix for Mayden (an UFM special if I've ever seen one) but after that? I got nada