I'm sure there a more than a few drunk, toothless rednecks walking around in Hokie shirts... who might just offend you so much that you'll want to go post online about your 'negative experience'. My guess though, is that OSU has their fair share of those same fans, just like every other school in the country. I for one am a long time season ticket holder and have seen very little of what you're talking about.. quite the contrary actually, when/if drunk idiot fans are railing on an opposing fan, others have been quick to set them straight. Unless of course that idiot fan is actually being an idiot... then all bets are off.
nothing like generalizing a whole fan base based on the meeting with one fan.
or vice versa... ala last season. :)
although OSU did get the ultimate last laugh.
CJ Reavis was dismissed from the school, he was penciled in as the starter this prior to that happening. In his spot now, Chuck Clark has been moved over from a corner spot. Chuck Clark may not be as flashy but is a very good player and has the experience factor over Reavis who would have been making his first start against OSU.
Shai McKenzie is the suspended RB out for OSU. While he is likely the best RB on the team when fully healthy, he's coming off a torn ACL (last October), one of 3 RBs who went down last year for VT. JC Coleman will start the game - he's coming off of 4 straight 100+ yard outings to close out last year. His backup is former starter (prior to his injury last year) Trey Edmunds. All that said, the RB spot should not miss a beat with McKenzie out.
and missing your best playmaking DL...
You cant not factor in the VT D and turnovers they might force, special teams play etc. It's a game of field position. I wouldn't want to see VT have to play the long field all night long, but if the D and/or special teams gives them a short field every now and then, game on.
The VT O was full of freshman at the skill positions last season.. outside of the OSU game, Brewer struggled with turnovers, especially thru the midway point of the season. If turnovers are kept in check Monday night, and the VT D plays as anticipated, this game could be tight.
OSU was by far the best game VT played all year. VT looked like a totally different team against ECU the following week.. VT was beat up after the OSU game, but their play against ECU was bad, all the way around. The following week against GT, VT had the game won, and many, many chances to put GT away - Brewer really hurt them in that one with 3 INTs, 2 of them in VT territory late in the game that gave GT great field position and the game was lost on a last second FG. Turnovers, particularly until midway thru the season really hurt VT in games, combine that with all the freak injuries and depth started becoming an issue.
OSU is a playoff team, or.. maybe a better way of saying it, in all likelihood is a playoff contender. Nothing is a given. Along those same lines, while it's not likely VT is a playoff contender considering their up and down play last season, we cannot say for sure they won't be in playoff contention. They were very young on the offensive side of the ball last year, and offense was their downfall in games lost - too many injuries, and turnovers. The D returns, is experienced and legitimate.
It's not out of the question VT wins this game on Monday night. They did after all beat OSU last year on the road, and return virtually everyone off that team. So, if VT beats OSU this year, and instead of riding a roller coaster the rest of the way, they keep that momentum going and run thru the 'gauntlet' (sarcasm) otherwise known as the ACC football schedule.. that schedule conveniently avoids FSU, Clemson, and Louisville this year... SO, a team that beats OSU, and runs through their ACC slate unscathed - that is a playoff contender. While it may not be likely, it's most definitely possible.
OSU will not score 63 points... unless VT has an obnoxious amount of turnovers. I mean, is that even a serious post? OSU is good, but a little respect is probably due... VT did beat this team on its home field last season with a bunch of freshman. I'll go away now - laughing.
DE's are a strength for sure.. Nicholas and Ekanem are very good. However, Luther Maddy on the inside is one of the better DT's has had in a very long time. Corey Marshall at the other DT spot is undersized but he's been a playmaker for VT. Quality depth behind each of those starters.
The MLB had some missed assignments last year, playing as a freshman.... but I would expect that experience and another off season in the program will elevate his play.
everyone talks about how young and inexperienced OSU was last year in that game... but in the same breath fails to mention that VT was likely younger and less experienced AND on the road. So now that VT team (that won) was also filled with a bunch of guys that lack skill? LOL.
check the injury lists for last season, literally the most injuries I've ever seen a single team be hit with. 2 OL prior to the season starting, top 3 RBs, TE, MLB, Corner, LT, DT.. and all of those listed were starters. Offensive lineman made the biggest impact IMO, losing those two prior to the season impacted depth in a big way, then a couple more during the season.. next thing you know you're starting a former walkon DE at tackle - not good.
we also had a severe case of everyone one and their mom got hurt after the OSU game.. injuries happen and are apart of the game, but it can't be discounted. I mean, top 3 RBs, top TE, several starting offensive lineman. Best DT on the team, middle LB'er, All ACC freshman corner.. all of that eventually adds up. Props to OSU though, managed to lose ride all those different QBs to a title.
Blast thru the VT D though - come on now.
Eric Gallo at center is the only newcomer on the OL. Wade Hansen at RT doesn't have a TON of experience, but he did get inserted into the starting lineup late last season and has now earned that starting spot going into this year.
About the 'explosive offense' comment... just a fact check, VT did start a QB that had been on campus for 1 month going into the OSU game last season. Isiah Ford and Cam Phillips at WR (both freshman last year), Marshawn Williams and Shai McKenzie at RB (both freshman last year), Bucky Hodges at TE, (freshman).. all of those guys played huge rolls as the year went on, and VT ended up losing its top 3 RBs, and co starter at TE in Ryan Malleck... not to mention 2 starters on the OL weeks before the OSU game. It was a crazy year injury wise, especially after the OSU game. Having said that, the skill positions at VT are looking better than ever and they all have a year under their belt. If anything, the potential of VT's offense is trending up, in a fairly significant way.
I think Stacy Searels has the OL moving in the right direction. Guys like Wyatt Teller and Augie Conte excel in the run game so I would hope that's a strength of the OL. Eric Gallo at C is the newcomer to the mix, but the coaches have had nothing but good things to say about him. McLaughlin, Teller, Gallo, Conte and Wade Hansen is how they'll line up. Wade Hansen on paper (RT) is probably the weak link of the group, he was pressed into action last year due to injury and held his own in the run game.. but his inexperience at the position was apparent. By all accounts he's stepped up his game. Depth behind the starters is relatively young, but the key reserves... Phaff, Osterloh and Nijman have all had impressive Springs.
All of the starters, outside of Gallo at center have plenty to experience under the belts... so that shouldn't be an excuse for this group.
You're right.. JC Coleman is not very tall, listed at 5'6 and right at 195lbs.. not sure his height really makes a difference. He's pound for pound one of, if not the strongest guy on the team.. he also just turned in a not so shabby 5th place finish in the ACC championships 60 meter final. He really came into his own over the last 4-5 games of last season, averaging over 100+ yards per game. His backup, (former starter before his injury last season) is Trey Edmunds.. 6'2 225lbs. Travon McMillan is listed as the #3 back.. he's 6' and 200lbs, and has the most big play potential of all the backs. He and JC will also handle kick returns.
Congrats to OSU on the national title. after the loss to VT, your QB really stepped up to the plate, and Jones filled in nicely to close out the year. Elliott was a beast too. VT on the other hand was not able to overcome the rash of injuries and inexperience. Outside of the Miami loss, which was just plain ugly.. we lost a lot of close/ugly games - most of which we either tied or led in the 4th quarter.
Next year, it goes without saying... OSU will be favorites to win that game. Does that mean VT can't win it...... Nah. VT is returning virtually everyone, including guys like Brandon Facyson and Luther Laddy, who ended up missing the entire season.. both being All-ACC caliber players.
The defense for VT... will be stout. Outside of the Miami game, they had a consistently good year - and that was without two of their best players.
The offense will have to improve, specifically the OL.. the run game showed signs over the last 4 games.. how that progresses over the off season/spring/summer will be key going into next season. VT has a lot of talent at the skill positions, it starts up front though. Anyway, looking forward to that game and the challenge of having OSU come to town. Congrats again.
Brewer didn't get a ton of PT at TT.. he was in line to start there prior to injuring his back. He was a 4 time Texas state champ in football.. all of that aside, he looked extremely poised and efficient in game 1.
The UCLA game... it was a cluster f from get go - things went from bad to worse when Logan Thomas got knocked out early on in the game.. backup QB came in and threw a couple picks and it snowballed. Their QB had a big game, mainly running the ball... those types of games are few and far between against Foster's D.
Anyway... people are really sleeping on the VT offense. What VT put on the field last year is really not even close to what's out there this year.. I guess that's what fans/media are going on. VT's two TE's are going to have huge years, and I would expect them to be a big factor in the game Saturday night... Hodges especially can cause some serious mismatch issues.
McKenzie is 5'11 221lbs with offers from Pitt, FSU, GT among others... Marshawn Williams is also 5'11 and listed at 227lbs.
Pretty sure that Emmit Smith - considered by most to be one of the all time great NFL RBs, never ran a 40 time faster than 4.5.. with it more likely being in the 4.7-4.8 range.
Thanks. I think with Braxton Miller being out... our chances for pulling out a W definitely went up. Still though, I think we'll have to play a nearly perfect game to make that happen. The key for VT probably comes down to how our OL holds up against OSUs front 4... likewise, it'll be interesting to see what VT can do with Barrett and the OSU OL.
The question marks on D for VT are definitely the LBs... and overall depth, especially in the front 7. That's one thing about Bud Foster though.. he gets every last bit of athletic ability out of his defenses and typically he's able to plug people in year in and year out and have one of the better defenses in the nation. This year the depth, especially in the front 7 is young.. so hopefully for VT the offense is able to sustain some drives so those 2nd team D guys aren't seeing too many snaps.
Miami gets the talent... they just can't put it together on the field. I thought Al Golden might get them turned around, but... based on their game last weekend, they might actually have a hard time getting out of the basement in the ACC Coastal Division.
I am somewhat surprised, especially since its OSU - and a primetime start.. that it isn't getting more attention. Having said that, after the past 2 sub par years at VT that's been somewhat the norm for our games. I think next year, expectations for both schools.. especially for VT considering were not even mentioned in Top 25 talk at this point.. will be higher, and will create more of a buzz nationally.
Yea Kyle missed several games last year due to injury... in those games Kendall and Brandon Facyson started at the CB spots. Kyle also played the whip spot in certain games/situations - against GT for example.
The achilles heel for VT's D last year.. was the VT offense. VT gave up a couple of big runs against BC last year, but in the games you mentioned turnovers by the offense killed the D.
This years defense should be good, how good.. its probably too early to tell. The DBs are legit, all 4 returning starters.. The LBs aren't that big.. one is a 5th year senior, 1st year starting.. the other kid (Clarke) is also in his first year starting. Maddy returns at DT. Corey Marshall returns, he along with Dadi Nicolas have seen significant playing time. Nicolas' time previously was more as a pass rush specialist type role... this year obviously he's out there full time. Ken Ekanem is the other end.. more prototypical size for an end.
Another guy who could have a big role is Ronny VanDyke at the whip spot... he was slated to start last year but an injury in the preseason kept him out all year. He's back and played sparingly against W&M.. not sure what his status is for OSU.
No worries - I didn't expect many to agree. I don't think the talent gap is THAT significant though... it's not like VT is an FCS level school with 20 fewer scholarships. VT plays some very talented teams. Miami, Clemson are probably on par with the types of recruiting classes OSU pulls in on a yearly basis.
I think it's a toss up really..
I think Foster is going to throw all he can at Barrett and try to force him into some mistakes. My guess is, VT will put a lot of guys in the box to try and limit the run game... leaving Fuller/Facyson/etc to hold down the defensive backfield.
I'd like to see VT's Ronny VanDyke back out there this week.. he's a big time playmaker when 100% healthy, and would likely be a huge asset in TE coverage.
For VT to win though, the O needs to build on more of what we saw last week.. which was an effective ground game, and Brewer being really efficient thru the air. If the VT O stalls, that will likely catch up to the D later in the game. I think our 'undersized' D is fine - unless they are just on the field way too much.
For OSU fans... I'd watch both of the VT TE's.. Bucky Hodges #7 and Ryan Malleck #88, they are essentially Michael Brewer's security blankets. Hodges iespecially has huge potential.
Anyway, my prediction is a tight game that could go either way. I think the surprise of the game though... is how effective the VT O ends up being. VT pulls out a W by 7.... 24-17.
hah! not trolling around... just asked a question and haven't said the first negative thing about OSU. it's whatever though... I get that this is an OSU board and obviously the picks etc are going to go OSUs way. It's somewhat comical to see the VT is going to get blasted posts though.